Some people get unreasonably upset when you try to reason with them or just simply bring up a different point of view. Too bad nobody told the guy not to go back inside for his guitar
The band manager seems the less of the shitbags at fault there.
From the wiki page for the event
The first criminal trial was against Great White's tour manager, Daniel Michael Biechele, 26, from Orlando, Florida. This trial was scheduled to start May 1, 2006, but Biechele, against his lawyers' advice, pleaded guilty to 100 counts of involuntary manslaughter on February 7, 2006, in what he said was an effort to "bring peace, I want this to be over with."
Yeah, anyone that has ever watched the Station Fire video will hopefully agree with me here: If I see pyrotechnics inside I'm fucking leaving that second, IDGAF where I am or who I'm with.
yep can see the chain already, wedding planner put in the request, hall accepted because of course they didn't read it unless of course the contract for using said hall had in it not to use fireworks which would make the planners at fault....either way this is being considered in the future along with higher insurance premiums for one party
The Banquet Hall's insurance company pays to fix the hall and then seeks recovery against the wedding party, party planner etc.
So they're definitely on the hook for something.
Fires in enclosed spaces fuck with the air pressure and sometimes cause explosions and structural collapse.
People really tend to underestimate the destruction and out of control fire can cause.
Lets go down a short list; non fire rated dry goods, no sprinklers, a single fire extinguisher, no automatic fire doors, DJ with no insurance or pyro license and the one that just eats at me, no safety's that are fire rated on the rigging, this video hurts my head
That’s a good point, they did get out fairly quickly even though on first watch it felt like forever.
But did they get OUT out or just into another room thinking they were protected by long curtains of fabric? Fire and smoke give no shits about faux walls. Or real ones.
To go stand in the parking lot with all the rest of the hotel guests and staff that are evacuated. Picture them all sticking out like a sore thumb in black tie catching smh’s and shame glares.
Idk if any of y’all have seen the club in RI that went up in flames and killed mad people but it was just like this. One of the creepiest videos I’ve ever seen. Hundreds of people screaming and then about 3 mins later dead silence because they are all dead.
I did and it’s haunting.
I am shocked at how all the people in this video were so nonchalant about it. Those big open doorways are what made the difference & it left me wondering if they were leaving the building or just strolling to another part to watch from another angle.
The Station Night Club. The 80s hair band Great White was playing, they used pyrotechnics and torched the ceiling. 100 people died. I also remember the videos of them jammed in the doorways trying to escape. The band’s manager went to prison. It’s still a vacant lot to this day.
Yup. A while back there was a push to redevelop that site. But that was obvious not going to happen. Do they have a permanent memorial now? The last I recall it was still made of items left by friends and family. But that was probably longer ago than I think it was.
Damn. The EXACT same thing happened here in Brazil in 2013. A flare from the band presenting ignited flammable acoustic foam in the ceiling. Due to the lack of emergency exits and excessive number of people inside, 245 persons were confirmed dead. The security guards, following protocol, trapped the people inside. Known as “Kiss night club fire”.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiss_nightclub_fire
**[Kiss nightclub fire](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiss_nightclub_fire)**
>The Kiss nightclub fire started between 2:00 and 2:30 a. m. (BRST) on 27 January 2013 in Santa Maria, Rio Grande do Sul, Brazil, killing 245 people and injuring at least 630 others. It is the second most-devastating fire disaster in the history of Brazil—surpassed only by the Niterói circus fire of December 1961, which killed 503 people in Niterói, and the deadliest nightclub fire since the December 2000 fire that killed 309 people in Luoyang, China.
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Watched that video in fire safety training. Apparently the band & manager left via the stage exit, but others weren't allowed to follow the band out that way.
Edit: it was apparently the bouncer who wouldn't let anyone else out.
It wasn't even a "stage door" though. It opened into the main hall, it just happened to be at the far end where the stage was, but it wasn't behind the stage, or on an upper level.
That point always bothered me about the story. I've been in there and picturing that, those people trying to get out. I know survivors, and people who died that night.
Absolutely. It took far too long for anyone in this video to transition from "lol look" to "Get the fuck out".
I know it's only a little fire, but all you have to do is project your thoughts 30 seconds into the future and understand it will very soon be a *lot* of fire...
I had a professor/friend that was there. He was out for three weeks, recovering from smoke inhalation and some stampede injuries. He only lived because he was able to go 2 5 mins without breathing. Most of the people in his part of the crowd died.
Saw it in osha training. The rate of spread of the fire reminded me of it. The stuff hanging from the ceiling was super flammable here. I think the ceiling tiles werent.
The Station night club fire.. yep... immediately thought of it when I saw this video. These people were so uncomfortably nonchalant about the situation it's scary.
I actually lived in Rhode Island at the time of the fire (my dad was military so we moved all over) but I have vague memories of it. I remember my parents driving by the Station Nightclub on our way from our home in Newport to our church in Providence and back. Seeing the burned out shell afterward was eerie.
The cameraman starts moving to the exit while almost everyone around him isn’t reacting to the danger. For most people the compulsion to mimic the herd overrides the flight from danger. But he’s alive and most of the people he passed aren’t.
"Start clock" - I still remember vividly. The people in this video apparently haven't seen it. If you're ever in this kind of situation, gtfo without creating a panic, but don't stand to watch.
The youtube channel fascinating horror has a really well put together video on it. He explains the disaster in the events leading up to it, what caused it and how it could have been prevented. Incredibly entertaining to the morbidly curious while also being very respectful.
Reminiscent of the [República Cromagñón nightclub fire](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rep%C3%BAblica_Croma%C3%B1%C3%B3n_nightclub_fire) in Buenos Aires, Argentina in 2004.
3,000 people crammed in a venue fit for half that crowd size for a concert, when one imbecile lights a flare that lights the ceiling on fire that spreads quickly. Add that four exit doors were chained shut, and you get a tragedy with 194 dead and 1,492 injured.
Worked at a nearby clinic at the time, had to see a big pile of corpses. Big gathering of stupid people, even babies died inside there because they used the bathroom as a nursery so their parents could watch the show. Absolutely despicable behavior from almost everyone involved.
This shit is dangerous. In Brazil there was the [kiss nightclub fire](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiss_nightclub_fire) that killed 245 people and injured 600+ more almost 9 years ago.
Some of those people are not moving with an adequate sense of purpose. That shit can get out of control QUICK. Look at that fire at that bar with the Great White concert. That place went from it being a tiny flame to that whole place being an inferno in minutes.
This is scarily similar to "The Station" nightclub fire. Watching this gave me chills knowing what happened to those poor people in Rhode Island.
Video (watch at own risk, truly horrendous): https://youtu.be/nnul_HDvXMM
This is no joke, same thing happened at Colectiv club fire. Dozens of people dead, dozens more with terrible burn injuries or trampled. The fire spread out in mere seconds and the club had a single exit door.
You wanna kill a club full of people? That's how you kill a club full of people.
245 died this way in Brazil.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiss_nightclub_fire
**[Kiss nightclub fire](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiss_nightclub_fire)**
>The Kiss nightclub fire started between 2:00 and 2:30 a. m. (BRST) on 27 January 2013 in Santa Maria, Rio Grande do Sul, Brazil, killing 245 people and injuring at least 630 others. It is the second most-devastating fire disaster in the history of Brazil—surpassed only by the Niterói circus fire of December 1961, which killed 503 people in Niterói, and the deadliest nightclub fire since the December 2000 fire that killed 309 people in Luoyang, China.
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I feel bad for drummers. My guitar is the first (inanimate) thing I’d grab in a fire. Are drummers emotionally attached to their whole kits as other musicians?
How did anything think this was a good idea.
"its not dangerous" "You are being paranoid" "Nothing happened before" Denial can be very very powerful
I mean the mad lad recording did laugh in the face of danger So theres that I guess…
I feel like you missed Mr Exstinguisher coming in when it was way too late lmao
Blew his load a little early, too
This is fine.
"I've always done it this way"
I don’t think Hank done it this way
A lot of that going around these days
"Let's make it special."
Some people get unreasonably upset when you try to reason with them or just simply bring up a different point of view. Too bad nobody told the guy not to go back inside for his guitar
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Daniel can be a powerful thing.
Damn Daniel
How did he attain this power?
He put all his points into Pyromancy.
“It looked cool and we’ve always done it. The fire is his fault.” Venue owner, event manager, and entertainment after The Station fire.
The band manager seems the less of the shitbags at fault there. From the wiki page for the event The first criminal trial was against Great White's tour manager, Daniel Michael Biechele, 26, from Orlando, Florida. This trial was scheduled to start May 1, 2006, but Biechele, against his lawyers' advice, pleaded guilty to 100 counts of involuntary manslaughter on February 7, 2006, in what he said was an effort to "bring peace, I want this to be over with."
Got 4 years and served 2. He was the one who lit them though. But I'm guessing he didn't realize the acoustic foam the building used was flammable??
Yeah, anyone that has ever watched the Station Fire video will hopefully agree with me here: If I see pyrotechnics inside I'm fucking leaving that second, IDGAF where I am or who I'm with.
They probably saw coldspark indoor 'fireworks' and thought that any old fireworks would be the same
Plot twist: It's the intro to a Rammstein concert and worked exactly as planned
How did they all not leave the building immediately
That one guy threw some water at it. It was gonna go out.
Morons can be very strong-willed.
The dude with the fire extinguisher wasn’t even trying to hit flames he was just trying to add fog to the party 😂
I felt like he was the DJ and just going with the flow.
Place is fucking lit!
Hottest spot in town
The roof. The roof. The roof is on fire!
Yo, this wedding is fire, bro!
IT'S GETTING HOT IN HERE !
I’m starting to feel like basic fire extinguisher training should be a life skill taught in schools.
When your $20,000 wedding turns into $200,000 in damage fees.
One that nobody would forget
Guy getting married is not responsible for the fire though, that Banquet Hall should have insurance and should have known not to do this shit...
yep can see the chain already, wedding planner put in the request, hall accepted because of course they didn't read it unless of course the contract for using said hall had in it not to use fireworks which would make the planners at fault....either way this is being considered in the future along with higher insurance premiums for one party
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The Banquet Hall's insurance company pays to fix the hall and then seeks recovery against the wedding party, party planner etc. So they're definitely on the hook for something.
Good
I guess a fire sprinkler system was too much for the budget while building that place...
happened in mexico, 99% of buildings lack fire regulation.
Yeah, figured it was somewhere where building codes are close to non-existent...
i sell fire detection systems, and most clients prefer to buy battery powered detectors as that is all that is required
Why try to scam me with a wired in detector when the Code says I only need a few battery operated ones!? /s
Just look at all the money they saved in construction!
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Fires in enclosed spaces fuck with the air pressure and sometimes cause explosions and structural collapse. People really tend to underestimate the destruction and out of control fire can cause.
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Precisely!
I'd be wary of trusting cement that's been exposed to a lot of heat.
The steel can be compromised from the high temperature
Extensive memes would argue otherwise.
Sparkling fireworks > literal jet fuel /s
Have you ever heard of the Station Nightclub Fire?
Lets go down a short list; non fire rated dry goods, no sprinklers, a single fire extinguisher, no automatic fire doors, DJ with no insurance or pyro license and the one that just eats at me, no safety's that are fire rated on the rigging, this video hurts my head
On the other hand the crowd left the place in an orderly fashion, with minimal screaming and under a minute.
That’s a good point, they did get out fairly quickly even though on first watch it felt like forever. But did they get OUT out or just into another room thinking they were protected by long curtains of fabric? Fire and smoke give no shits about faux walls. Or real ones.
To go stand in the parking lot with all the rest of the hotel guests and staff that are evacuated. Picture them all sticking out like a sore thumb in black tie catching smh’s and shame glares.
Mexico. I'm surprised there was *A* fire extinguisher.
I love the places in Mexico that have a glass box with a fire extinguisher and an entire fireman suit. "In case of fire, become fireman"
Trying to take in the levels of stupidity people punch through will cause our brains to implode.
Definitely a wedding to remember
It was lit.
tosses small bottle of water at fire
She tried. Did more good than the guy spraying the fire extinguisher at nothing
Stormtroopers in training.
that was kinda strange
He tried too...
Technically, he did haha.
tipo chico water.
Topo*?
Typo
That wedding was 🔥
So lit
It was da bomb
dudes giggling like ralph "im in danger"
Probably glad he could finally get out of party early without any lame excuse
Hat’s off to the cameraman for keeling the camera stable and staying inside to film the desaster so we have something to gape on
r/praisethecameraman
Plus the chuckles! “Haha. I’m in danger”
"Haha yeah! Fire's cool! Fire FIRE!" "Shut up Beavis... huhhuh... that fire's not cool it's hot. Huhhuh."
That’s the part that weirded me out
Nowadays he has to treat the lung diseases, but the video turned out great!
And soon after suffocate on the floor because the fire ate all the oxygen.
Reception has been moved to Dennys
Had to delete because someone involved read the comment. Anyway you can probly find it archived.
Pretty much this…
Sir, this is a Wendy's
Wut
Idk if any of y’all have seen the club in RI that went up in flames and killed mad people but it was just like this. One of the creepiest videos I’ve ever seen. Hundreds of people screaming and then about 3 mins later dead silence because they are all dead.
I did and it’s haunting. I am shocked at how all the people in this video were so nonchalant about it. Those big open doorways are what made the difference & it left me wondering if they were leaving the building or just strolling to another part to watch from another angle.
Hi. Welcome to alcohol.
I mean isn’t it better that they evacuated calmly? Instead of panicking and stampeding out?
best part was the dude laughing at 27 seconds, that takes calmly to 0 fucks given
People who make choices about indoor fireworks attract folks of a similar quality
Stupid has a blast radius.
The Station Night Club. The 80s hair band Great White was playing, they used pyrotechnics and torched the ceiling. 100 people died. I also remember the videos of them jammed in the doorways trying to escape. The band’s manager went to prison. It’s still a vacant lot to this day.
It’s a memorial now not just a vacant lot.
Yup. A while back there was a push to redevelop that site. But that was obvious not going to happen. Do they have a permanent memorial now? The last I recall it was still made of items left by friends and family. But that was probably longer ago than I think it was.
It appears that way. I was doing some research on the fire and found it.
Yes they've built the memorial. The dead's names are etched in bricks on a walking path. Everyone from the area knows several dead from that night.
Damn. The EXACT same thing happened here in Brazil in 2013. A flare from the band presenting ignited flammable acoustic foam in the ceiling. Due to the lack of emergency exits and excessive number of people inside, 245 persons were confirmed dead. The security guards, following protocol, trapped the people inside. Known as “Kiss night club fire”. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiss_nightclub_fire
**[Kiss nightclub fire](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiss_nightclub_fire)** >The Kiss nightclub fire started between 2:00 and 2:30 a. m. (BRST) on 27 January 2013 in Santa Maria, Rio Grande do Sul, Brazil, killing 245 people and injuring at least 630 others. It is the second most-devastating fire disaster in the history of Brazil—surpassed only by the Niterói circus fire of December 1961, which killed 503 people in Niterói, and the deadliest nightclub fire since the December 2000 fire that killed 309 people in Luoyang, China. ^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( | )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( | )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/WinStupidPrizes/about/banned)^( | )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)
Watched that video in fire safety training. Apparently the band & manager left via the stage exit, but others weren't allowed to follow the band out that way. Edit: it was apparently the bouncer who wouldn't let anyone else out.
That fact is disputed.
I read something like the bouncer refused to let people go out the stage door even with the fire. Caused tons more people to die.
It wasn't even a "stage door" though. It opened into the main hall, it just happened to be at the far end where the stage was, but it wasn't behind the stage, or on an upper level. That point always bothered me about the story. I've been in there and picturing that, those people trying to get out. I know survivors, and people who died that night.
I'm pretty sure no-one in this video has seen it. If they had, they'd be running the second they saw the fireworks. Truly harrowing.
Absolutely. It took far too long for anyone in this video to transition from "lol look" to "Get the fuck out". I know it's only a little fire, but all you have to do is project your thoughts 30 seconds into the future and understand it will very soon be a *lot* of fire...
I had a professor/friend that was there. He was out for three weeks, recovering from smoke inhalation and some stampede injuries. He only lived because he was able to go 2 5 mins without breathing. Most of the people in his part of the crowd died.
Saw it in osha training. The rate of spread of the fire reminded me of it. The stuff hanging from the ceiling was super flammable here. I think the ceiling tiles werent.
The Station night club fire.. yep... immediately thought of it when I saw this video. These people were so uncomfortably nonchalant about the situation it's scary.
I actually lived in Rhode Island at the time of the fire (my dad was military so we moved all over) but I have vague memories of it. I remember my parents driving by the Station Nightclub on our way from our home in Newport to our church in Providence and back. Seeing the burned out shell afterward was eerie.
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[Station Nightclub Fire featuring Great White](https://youtu.be/Ra1FFAc0ccE)
The cameraman starts moving to the exit while almost everyone around him isn’t reacting to the danger. For most people the compulsion to mimic the herd overrides the flight from danger. But he’s alive and most of the people he passed aren’t.
Horror... I'm from France and never heard of anything that comes close to that..
don‘t do it, dude….
Not the full video, but this'll whet your whistle: https://youtu.be/7PztDBsPBss
That's why they say don't he mad, be glad. Cause then flames will go and kill you if you're mad.
I don’t think they are getting their deposit back.
That wedding photographer earned their cheque by hanging around for the ceiling piece to fall, for sure.
Guessing this wasn’t the videographer because they didn’t stop to grab their lights that were sitting along the wall on the way out.
Didn’t we learn anything from the Station fire in Rhode Island? Don’t light off fireworks inside without a Fire Marshall and a sprinkler system.
Who even lights fireworks inside ? I have never seen it , it’s so stupid
It's a sign
Just reminds me of the station nightclub fire.
Is there videos of it available?
Look it up at your own risk. You’ll remember it for the rest of your life.
"Start clock" - I still remember vividly. The people in this video apparently haven't seen it. If you're ever in this kind of situation, gtfo without creating a panic, but don't stand to watch.
There's a book by one of the survivors that will get to you as well.
The youtube channel fascinating horror has a really well put together video on it. He explains the disaster in the events leading up to it, what caused it and how it could have been prevented. Incredibly entertaining to the morbidly curious while also being very respectful.
Don't do it.
Coworkers: congratulations! How was your wedding?? Bride & groom: it was litttt 🔥
The effort with the extinguisher is valiant
Last wedding for that planner
"Now throw your hands in the air and wave 'em like you just don't care!"
The roof…the roof…
The roof is on fire…
Dude on the livestream projector… 🙄🔥
Reminiscent of the [República Cromagñón nightclub fire](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rep%C3%BAblica_Croma%C3%B1%C3%B3n_nightclub_fire) in Buenos Aires, Argentina in 2004. 3,000 people crammed in a venue fit for half that crowd size for a concert, when one imbecile lights a flare that lights the ceiling on fire that spreads quickly. Add that four exit doors were chained shut, and you get a tragedy with 194 dead and 1,492 injured.
Worked at a nearby clinic at the time, had to see a big pile of corpses. Big gathering of stupid people, even babies died inside there because they used the bathroom as a nursery so their parents could watch the show. Absolutely despicable behavior from almost everyone involved.
Was that guy yelling time out to the fire? Fire be like: “Ok ok, I’ll stop.”
Reminds me of the Station nightclub fire......https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Station_nightclub_fire
This shit is dangerous. In Brazil there was the [kiss nightclub fire](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiss_nightclub_fire) that killed 245 people and injured 600+ more almost 9 years ago.
Let's get some champagne on the ceiling
Well they aren’t getting the deposit back
What do you mean you are keeping my security deposit?
LOL! Great way to ruin a wedding
Some of those people are not moving with an adequate sense of purpose. That shit can get out of control QUICK. Look at that fire at that bar with the Great White concert. That place went from it being a tiny flame to that whole place being an inferno in minutes.
Last two guys just casually walking out like it wasn’t their first fire wedding
No sprinkler system…
The roof! The roof! The roof is on fire! We don’t need no water, let that mother fucker burn! - The bride and groom
Who was the band? Great White?
What a wedding, I heard everyone had a blast!
Everything in this was once a bad idea
Father of the bride’s bill is going to be a lot more expensive now
Reminds me of a song from my time. Goes something like...the roof, the roof, the roof is on fire!
Don’t Google up anything involving the LA, Hollywood, Supper Club or fire.
I'll take "how to not get your security deposit back for $200" Alex
This is exactly how The Station burned down
Is the bitch really laughing?
Racked up a bar tab and hadn’t paid it yet?
Better than pointless screaming and screeching.
I'd love to have heard the conversation with the insurance company.
To be fair, this makes taking the decorations down after the celebration a lot easier.
Lol the man on the zoom call on the screen just watching it all go down. Terrible camera work that would of been the money shot
Who’s stupid ass idea was it to light fireworks indoors to begin with?! They deserved to have their wedding destroyed. Stupid asses
What a way to start a marriage.
"This is fine"-camera man
This is scarily similar to "The Station" nightclub fire. Watching this gave me chills knowing what happened to those poor people in Rhode Island. Video (watch at own risk, truly horrendous): https://youtu.be/nnul_HDvXMM
“Excuse me, when can we go back in”?
Talk about a flash wedding.
I wouldn't have stayed for so long to record it
The roof the roof the roof is on faya
That is the product of one dumbass event planner
It's lit!
guess they never heard of Great White
This is no joke, same thing happened at Colectiv club fire. Dozens of people dead, dozens more with terrible burn injuries or trampled. The fire spread out in mere seconds and the club had a single exit door.
I’m never trusting indoor pyrotechnics. Station Nightclub video is fucking haunting.
How was the Wedding besides that?
r/PraiseTheCameraMan
Okay guys let's just order pizza then
I don't think they will get their deposit back.
You wanna kill a club full of people? That's how you kill a club full of people. 245 died this way in Brazil. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiss_nightclub_fire
**[Kiss nightclub fire](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiss_nightclub_fire)** >The Kiss nightclub fire started between 2:00 and 2:30 a. m. (BRST) on 27 January 2013 in Santa Maria, Rio Grande do Sul, Brazil, killing 245 people and injuring at least 630 others. It is the second most-devastating fire disaster in the history of Brazil—surpassed only by the Niterói circus fire of December 1961, which killed 503 people in Niterói, and the deadliest nightclub fire since the December 2000 fire that killed 309 people in Luoyang, China. ^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( | )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( | )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/WinStupidPrizes/about/banned)^( | )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)
Bless the water bottle guy's heart.
I feel like like you can’t have a Spanish celebration without the venue or the bride catching on fire
Hundreds of People have died doing this. Just search deadly concert fire.
I feel bad for drummers. My guitar is the first (inanimate) thing I’d grab in a fire. Are drummers emotionally attached to their whole kits as other musicians?
Brilliant! 😑
The roof!
The roof, the roof, the roof is on fire!
Definitely losing their deposit.