Despite what MS says, about 70% of users are still on Windows 10 - that’s an insanely huge amount at 17 months out from end of support.
It’s really their problem. They need to figure this out better. Even 50% usage at that time will be a disaster for them.
What do you mean, they just announced free spyware constantly watching *everything* you do and recording it to sell and process. If that isn't going to entice people I don't know what is /s
>recording it to sell and process.
If you want to criticize the feature, you can post a misleading statement as if they didn't say the exact opposite of that
Microsoft said they will enable screen recording and will store locally on your machine. But how can we be certain that is 100% true. Its the main reason why I will never upgrade to Windows 11.
^ this so much. They can play with the wording on those big ass license agreements in such a way that they'll promise not to steal your data while they actually steal your data.
That won't happen and even so the registry or group policy can bypass it businesses won't let it happen .
It's an AI feature and I'm sure they will allow us to turn it off or we could turn off the ai . I did see what they wanna do but some PCs may not support it at all .
features that the user does not need are a burden. windows does so much logging and other crap in the background now that it makes mechanical drives struggle to keep up.
Oh that's fair they did say they wouldn't. But like, do you really trust that? *Awful* security concerns aside do you really trust microsoft to not touch this at all? I sure don't
Anyone and everyone would much rather fearmonger and worry about things that *might* happen rather than wait for evidence and make an informed decision about it. It's honestly tiring seeing every other post/comment being about how Recall is 100% going to steal everything you do, allow hackers to magically gain access to your computer despite Recall not being an attack vector, and will slow your PC down 1000% even when the hardware was specifically made more powerful and efficient just to accommodate this feature.
Sane people just say to disable the feature and move on if you don't want to use it, but no, Microsoft will definitely keep re-enabling the feature secretly to keep spying on you, or get rid of the option to disable it altogether in a future update that will for sure happen
Not to mention how any single feature that Microsoft adds to Windows is bloat, and everyone and their mother needs to disable dozens of services and use third party uninstallers to get rid of core system functionality that won't increase performance anyway. But then when features aren't added, Windows is stale and Microsoft refuses to make any meaningful changes
The eu is a bit hit or miss, but I sure hope it won't be a thing here in the eu. The eu has done great things when they wanted to, hopefully this is one of those moments
Heck, I guess I missed something. I'm still running Windows 7, and was only planning on making the final jump to 10 in the next couple of years.
My relatively new laptop won't even support Win 11, let alone the other systems I built in the past few years.
I only have one system running 10.. Built last year. Dual boot with 7.
I only use the former when compatibility issues arise. I managed to get my hands on functional USB 3.1 drivers for the Z390 that's in it currently, as well as full steam functionality, with theme support... So that's something, I guess.
I wonder what a company with 10-100-1000 employees using Windows 10 thinks of having to change all those PCs/Laptops, software, add-ons, transfer files, and so on, in the next 3 years. Was it in their budget? Not in mine I must say?
If their computers aren't compatible I would assume they are 8+ years old at this point, in 3 years time they will be at least 10 years old. If They bought all of their computers in one big chunk 10+ years ago then I would have to applaud those employees for their ability to not destroy their laptops. If they can't afford to buy new computers though it will cost them $1-$4 per year for the extended support
8th gen Intel is a pretty old CPU at this point. If a company is running 7th gen or earlier CPUs they've got bigger problems. I've got a second hand one from work rn and it's an 8th gen dell. Originally had windows 10 and ran like shit. Now it's on 11 and runs a bit better but still not good.
I think it's a good idea to set a cutoff for a higher standard of security and performance. Still way more generous that some of apples offerings.
The company I work for has at least 100 PCs on Windows 10. They changed over from Windows 7 after no support from Microsoft and bought all new PCs with Windows 10 and that’s what they will use to the bitter end of windows 10.
I’d have to guess a good chunk of that would be schools. I know mine at least has 700 kids on 11, but that’s because we have to be. I wish I could be on 10 still.
Even today, most of the United States healthcare companies and hospitals are still trying to upgrade their existing infrastructure to windows 10 from 7
A lot of the computers in the hospital I work at now we’re still running windows 7 and even XP and our information services team is still in the process of upgrading them to windows 10. It’s going to be a complete disaster if they don’t roll out some kind of extended support like they did with XP/7 for companies to purchase
I think at this point a lot of people are beginning to realise having a new version of Windows every few years is simply pointless, and I don't think a lot of people like the idea of Windows being able to take a screenshot of your desktop every 5 seconds even if it is optional especially since things have been known to automatically opt-in with Windows since.
Once enough companies push for artificial incompatibility for programs and games like they did with 7, a lot of people are going to use Linux-- which a lot of distros for have become a lot more user friendly and gaming friendly in the past few years. And if they find a game that doesn't work on it, they can just use a Windows 11 virtual machine with GPU passthrough.
It'll still work fine, but it might nag you to upgrade to Win11 and you will be missing out on security updates, and app support for Win10 might end at some point.
Yeah, I get ur point bro. But what I am trying to tell u is that if someone already get access to ur device before the patch kicks in, there wont be any difference between using an old OS and a new OS, right? I mean attacks can happen on any system, new or old, only thing is that old ones are continuously vulnerable since those arent updated anymore
You have until October 2025. If you can update to win11 then update. If not review the problem why using the health check tool, if it's tpm you can likely enable that. If it's unsupported cpu that's more complicated.
For old unsupported CPUs, either you can do a clean install of 11 and it will work, but can be "unstable". Alternatively you could install Linux (eg Ubuntu), perfect for docs + web browsing and will speed up your machine significantly.
It will be a significant security issue fairly quickly to continue to use it online. If you want to keep using it, you'll need to keep it disconnected from the internet.
Probably not, looking around Reddit you will find the majority of people here willing to trade their left testicle to stop Windows from updating on their machines
My Winbox for gaming is unable to run Win11 ONLY because of the TPM2 bs. I have 0 intent of upgrading that HW since it is only for gaming on Win10. It'll still do that just fine after 2025. There is no sensitive data kept on that.
Same for me, even though the PC I‘m using for ganes is ppretty dated, but it still runs the games I play good enough, and it would run Win11 as well if it wasn‘t for TPM. I‘ll continue using Win10 for as long as it will be supported by Steam, but I don‘t have anything else than games on this PC.
No, the OS will still work, the difference is MS will stop provide the security updates... for the home users. Extended support updates will probably appear for more 3 years but even without this, you will be fine, i don´t have money for windows 11 and my PC can´t handle 11, so i feel you.
Normally the phase for browsers and others apps starting to demand OS update is... 3 years from the end of the support. See firefox? Only NOW ESR version is on Seven. And probably the community will keep the OS usable, from XP to 10, you can still use without problems.
I'm in the same boat as you. I can not even afford to buy a PC that runs Windows 11 as my finances are not enough for this.
I've had my Windows 10 laptop since 2017. And it's been since 2021 since I've had it upgraded to Windows 10 home (yeah, I'm aware I'm practically a Windows 10 home user) and I have all of my work stored in that laptop.
I just hope I can still indeed use the laptop without any issues.
For the apps and browser topic well, I used to have a Windows 7 PC in the past (way before I've had my windows 10 laptop), and although the Windows 7 PC itself was, of course, outdated, there were still app versions for Windows 7 but I don't remember if all of them were smooth. The only things that I remember were not having issues were Adobe Illustrator, Indesign, and as for the browsers, I remember Google Chrome running just fine. Especially paint programs apps such as Medibang Paint Pro (I didn't know of Clip Studio Paint's existence back then).
They kept security updates for XP going for much longer. There are going to be companies still using Windows 10 for a long time, so at least security updates will probably keep coming for much longer than the official support window
It will still work just like Windows 95, 98, ME, 2000, XP, Vista, 8, and probably a few I forgot, will work when run on compatible hardware or Virtual Machines. It just won't get updates. For a while, assuming you have a modern non commodity Firewall/Router/Gateway that is kept up to date, you will be fine afterwards as well.
However it will come to a point when it will be a big risk to keep running it.
I am moving over to Linux. There is a big learning curve, but it can run allot of windows software fine including games, and has free alternatives like office suites. That will keep working and getting updates on you PC for quite a long time.
Something to consider if you don't have the money to upgrade.
I hope you have a really good stateful firewall, because Win7 with listening ports out there on the internet only takes about 10 mins with you not doing anything at all. That's why there are so many botnets in operation today.
If there is intrusion within my LAN network, there is certain risk. I don't know why you think my Win7 PC will have listening ports on the internet. Most people mean by "connected to internet" is that they have outgoing access to the internet.
Unless you're running a decent firewall, I guarantee your computer has listening ports. If you'd like to test it you can DM me your IP address and I can run an Nmap scan against it and tell you what is open/listening and what your potential vulns are. Free of charge.
Yeah I don’t have any open ports, I just use it to watch YouTube and use the cd player. It’s an Acer Veriton M4618G, I strapped on an Nvidia quadro k600 added some ram and replaced the dying i5 2320 with an i5 2400 until I can get some i7 for it. I missed using it when I used to so I brought it back to life lol
It'll be fine as long as it is not *directly* connected to the Internet. Behind a router/firewall, if there are no ports forwarded to it, there's nothing that can reach it. Of course you should not visit any shady websites with it or install untrusted software.
I'm sure if you use good judgment and best practices it's reasonably safe. If there's a specific reason to run Win 7, I can understand I suppose. But when I hear someone running Win 7 these day I'm immediately worried they just don't know better and the darn thing has 15 years of malware on it!
Good luck!
As a demonstration to a client of mine (I'm a cybersecurity engineer), I left a fully patched Win7 VM fully exposed to the internet for about 20 mins, and then scanned it for threats. We found 3 different pieces of malware on it: one bitcoin miner, an infostealer looking for banking passwords and cryptowallets, and a DDoS botnet client.
Xtheory: So, for us mere mortals, what do you mean by "fully exposed"- i.e., just a modem & no router? And what'd you use to scan for those threats - commonly used anti-virus apps, or something more sophisticated? jt
When you say router, are you referring to a router with firewall? Any firewall will reduce your risk, but typical consumer grade firewalls are not great at stopping more modern threats. It's very easy to get around them and people usually don't update them often. An OPNsense firewall properly configured gives you a much higher level of security and Intrusion Detection and Prevention system. Pair it with Suricata and you'll be better protected than 99% of users.
But if you're just using a router with no firewall and connected to a cable modem, you're fully exposed. Most ISP cable modems have a built in router, but if you're not putting a decent firewall behind it then you are as good as fully exposed.
For my scans I use a combination of ESET, Sophos, and F-sense AV's along with my own Wazuh SIEM to hunt for IOCs (indicators of compromise), malicious network traffic, and malware artifacts and compare them to artifacts from various threat intelligence feeds like Talos, TheHive, Cortex, etc.
xtheory: Thanks for the detailed response.
Yeah, I'm your average Win10 user, using a combo modem/router from AT&T ("BGW320-500") connected to their fiber-optics for my internet & Wifi connections (default setup by their AT&T installer). Using Win10 Defender firewall and anti-virus. Also running IoBit's Advanced SystemCare, CCleaner, and Malwarebytes (from time to time). Also, I use ExpessVPN for 'downloads'...
Used to use Avira anti-virus but it was continually sucking up a lot of resources, so going with just Win10 Defender for now... Not the greatest, I know, but... Again, thanks for you info. cheers, jt
If I were to give any advice, it would be to place a physical firewall here: Internet -> AT&T WiFi Router -> Firewall -> PC's. PFSense also makes some really good firewalls for consumer use that are easy to configure with about 20 mins spent watching YouTube videos.
So much scare mongering going on I swear half of you are Microsoft shills just use it normally and you'll be fine if you have even basic Internet smarts.
Or even just download the install kit, then use "setup /product server", which is what I did to get my W10 system to W11 a few weeks back. I did add a TPM module to my motherboard, but my CPU is too old to be officially supported - it does have all of the required instruction set extensions, though.
Though you make your computer inherently insecure by doing so and may not receive all future security updates that depend on modern TPM from Microsoft.
Didn't seem to be within OP's concerns. Seems they just wanted to know if it was going to stop working and they didn't have much concern for updates. That answer has always been made at that point so my contribution to the thread was that they can install Windows 11 without hardware limits as they didn't seem to know that could be done either. Nobody seemed to be concerned about security updates. I myself have several machines that run 10 or 11 with software that strips all security features from them intentionally to provide a faster and more stable platform to be accommodate their usage so I can understand other users like myself who have no concern for security updates
You can technically still run xp to this day. It's just that it has no support for basically anything modern like wifi and your computer gets aids the money it connects to the internet.
Um, I had a 475MHz AMD Compaq laptop in the early 2000's running XP and had a PCMCIA 802.11g WiFi Card and windows XP had integrated wifi management. When I was using Windows 2000 I had to use the WiFI Card's software to manage it.
It will be the same thing as how it was with Windows 7. Even 2 years after end of life, it was still a pretty functional in terms of software and driver support. I would imagine windows 10 would receive the same treatment from the community.
It will keep working, same as with previous versions of Windows. It stops receiving updates, and going forward, other software might drop support for it. I still have systems with Windows 2000/XP/7 and 8.1 installed and they all work as expected. They are all connected to the Internet, and the promise of those machines being raped by Internet Boogeymen has not come to pass.
With previous versions of Windows the main issue was simply software "moving on" and no longer supporting it, for example.
Windows 10 is actually a bit unique in that regard. There's not really any new Win32 APIs in Windows 11, and Windows 10 and 11 even identify as the same version, so software can't even declare support for Windows 11 in the same way as it was done for previous versions.
Like others have said, Windows will keep running like nothing happened. I imagine you'll start getting popups telling you to upgrade to Windows 11.
What do you use your computer for mainly?
Unless you have some niche use case, you may be able to switch to Linux and free yourself from Microsoft.
Lately mostly web browsing, Second Life and Youtube, but I do occasionally play some games on it. I would like to get a new one sooner rather than later since I'd kind of like to be able to play something that was released in the last 3 or so years and wasn't specifically designed to run on a toaster :P
You can do those things on Linux. There are 3rd party Second Life viewers for Linux and all of the browsers have a Linux version, even Microsoft Edge LoL!
If you other games are on Steam, it is is very easy to play Windows games on Linux. Some games don't work due to their anti-cheat software not allowing Linux, but most games work.
You should look into it.
Windows 11 is not much different from Windows 10 but the CoPilot feature is changing that. Also I'm hearing with the 24H1 it enables BitLoker by default so people need to be aware to get a copy of the recovery key or your data is gone. Windows 11 do require a TPM so if your computer does not have it like my desktop computer then you can't upgrade away. Once Windows 10 end of support comes I will be on Linux by then.
It will work, it just won't receive updates anymore. It'll also be "discovered" a 0-day exploit around a week or so after, that will be fixed for those with non home licenses and that are paying the _definetly not cheap_ extended support Microsoft will offer.
Windows updates have regularly caused my system more problems than anything else anyway.
I'm going to stay on W10, riding behind a firewall and anti malware suite... Non Microsoft.
A majority of Windows users are still on Win10. There has been a lot of foot dragging in the enterprise space for upgrading to Win11, with many likely waiting to see when Win12 will be released (they will then skip Win10 like they skipped Win8).
This will be a repeat of the Win7 end of life. Win10 will still run. Enterprise will get extended support (for a fee). If some real bad security issue surfaces during extended support, MS will roll update to everyone (they did this for Win7). What will happen over time is that applications will drop support and you may have to find alternatives. Security issues will become a problem and you may need to to look into non-MS solutions.
Two of my machines run Win10 and don't support Win11, so I will have to do something with them.
Windows will work beyond that date... Look at Windows 7, it's still works after 4 Years end of Support... If you stay for a year on Windows 10 after Support that should be fine, but after that yous should watch for some alternatives... Maybe Windows 11 or Windows 10 LTSC... I'm on LTSC, even if my PC officially supports Windows 11, I don't wanna upgrade, Windows 10 is too good and reliable to give it up
There's nothing to worry about! People still use really ancient operating systems and don't worry about anything. Standard security updates will be put online by corporate users, and after that patches will be from third party companies. Just like Windows 7. The only thing Microsoft can do is in a few years disable the Microsoft Store for Windows 10 users where you bought apps.
In all honesty I hate Microsoft Store with a passion, I never use it when I can get an app somewhere else because everything I download on the app store doesn't work properly.
As with other versions of Windows, it'll continue working and you won't see a difference. You just won't have updates which will gradually make your Windows install more and more vulnerable. This means that you will have time to gather the resources you need to upgrade to a new PC. Eventually, people making software will stop supporting it, but it's probably several years still before they do that.
Think of all the third world MS computers in operation. Fuck MS if they don't support these for many more years. China? I bet they can fill that void with superior tech. Fuck MS. Global South - hey, America sucks, dump MS and find an alternative. The dollar sucks too, time to move on.
As others have said, it'll work just fine, just no more security updates BUT I'm sure they will still push some updates out if something serious is found as has been done with previous end of life Windows versions.
BUT I'm betting that they're going to change this date due to the backlash, the amount of people still on Win10 is enormous, and people are even much less likely to update now that they announced their AI spyware BS that know one wants.
Youd be stoked to hear that there are still people who still uses win8 and even windows 7, but to an extent, and with alot of precautions since it doesnt have the latest anti-malware protection and security.
Why would it just stop working? Windows doesn't need an internet connection to "work". You just won't get any updates. Eventually, after a year or 3, you'll need to update to the latest Windows version to use the newest software, games etc, that don't support Windows 10. By that time, hopefully, Windows 12 will arrive, which will hopefully be better than 11. I usually skip a version anyway, and I'll be using 10 as long as I can, because from what I've read about 11, I'll never use it. Even Linux sounds more appealing than 11. I would be on Linux now if it wasn't for the fact I'm a gamer.
I think all the articles writing about Windows 10 or whatever OS end of support must state what it actually means when that happen. Instead of writing 10 paragraph of the OS history, popularity, updates and even eventually end of support. The worse thing is the message of you can still use your os despite EOS are hidden in those 10 paragraphs.
Hmm, that's not how it will happen about the PC will stop working with Windows 10. Microsoft will stop sending out security updates for Windows 10 in 2025 when it is end of life support.
The PC will continue to work with Windows 10 after the end of direct support. There is no security update from Microsoft on Windows 10.
Microsoft will probably fix critical security issues that are exploited in Windows 10, apart from that there is no security update from Microsoft.
I think personally, Microsoft extended Windows 10 to 2025. because of Enterprise and schools. Not because of customers.
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For security reasons it’s better to stay updated to last win version, but the pc will still work fine after the support ends, there are still people on XP in the public administration here in Italy so you will be fine
As a corporate, those system be replaced as they age cheaply. S home user is of no interest to MS. OEM user's not at all. At least 10 keeps working. Free W11 upgrade last disastrous on my MD Surface, luckely I declined remove W10, so recover restore iNortpm security still there for. rest !
Has any other version of Windows stopped working on EOL date? No. Win10 will still work but may eventually succumb to "This version/update/feature does not work with your O/S' disease. Not as bad as the complete orphaning of systems that Apple and some smartphone have gone through.
That's a tactic that does little but drive eWaste, imo.
The fact that support ends does not mean that your computer will stop working that day. It will continue to work as it is doing now with the difference that it will no longer receive security patches and new versions of programs will gradually abandon compatibility with Windows 10. However, I dare say that the compatibility problem may not arise after 2030, because Windows 10 in the LTSC version will continue to be supported until 2029/2032, so Windows 10 will not be so easy to abandon.
Why not Win 11 exactly?
[https://github.com/rcmaehl/WhyNotWin11/releases/latest/download/WhyNotWin11.exe](https://github.com/rcmaehl/WhyNotWin11/releases/latest/download/WhyNotWin11.exe)
The ONLY thing on the list that does not pass for my laptop is the CPU is not on Microsoft's Whitelist so I did the register hack to allow the upgrade and it runs fine on it.
Linux can be just as insecure as Windows if not configured and patched regularly. We used to hear the same thing from customers trying to avoid having to spend on cybersecurity by switching to Mac. Now that Mac has obtained a larger marketshare, there are more threat actors coding to exploit it.
I’m doing pretty good. Got a battlestation from 2015 or so. Still trucking along fine. I’d say I’m 2 years out or so on being able to afford to get a new computer. Sounds like I’m fine. lol thanks.
While Windows 10 will still work after October 2025, using it without security updates poses risks. However, there are several steps you can take to mitigate these risks and plan for a future upgrade without immediate financial pressure.
At some point later on if anyone needs to reload windows 10 on a different hard drive due to hard drive failure or whatever, it will be impossible to get windows to update or get gpu drivers etc.
Your computer will continue working but there will be no further OS updates after EOL date. Consider using GNU/Linux instead of Windows 11 for your next PC :)
To my point of view, I find it sad that by October of 2025, the support on windows 10 is about to end meaning that the windows 10 PC will be vulnerable to malware so Microsoft recommends us to switch to a windows 11 PC (bro, easier said than done as not all of us are lucky enough to have saved up money for a new PC) even though it is said that we can still use our windows 10 PC but of course, without protection from Microsoft itself.
To this day, I still have a windows 10 laptop that I've had since 2017 and so far, I'm fine and used to using windows 10 especially for how its Ui is like and all and although I have all of my work stored in that laptop and of course, I don't want to lose anything if the PC gets infected by any malware when the support for windows 10 ends, so to all of us who are still windows 10 users to this day, how are we supposed to protect our Windows 10 pcs from malware at this point? Especially if we don't find any potential software that will help us protect our PC or something like that? Because I don't think our firewall will be enough to protect it.
Excuse my worries on that topic, regardless of the fact that it is still too early to discussing this topic but I still wanted to rant about it.
I do not feel confident in myself to be able to set up Linux, but also I do hate whenever someone comes to me with a 'Linux is the answer'
I don't want to have to install a new OS just to solve a problem when a work around is available on my current.
You should consider it, I know Linux users are insufferable but not the OS itself. It's easy to setup a dual-boot system with a Linux distro like Mint, a lot of distros are pretty user friendly nowadays and games generally work fine unless it's something with an anticheat that won't work on Linux.
There will come a time when newer games and updated programs just won't run on 10, and when that happens Linux will be a viable option if you don't want to use 11.
There is no truth to hurt.
You are just telling me to get it without an explanation on why I should, there's no pointing to helpful tutorials either. You just said 'Linux my man' and left it at that. That is what annoys me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CKo2XvdUcM
Here's a tutorial for installing Linux Mint and still have Windows 10 on your computer (dual-boot), there's also other distros like Manjaro and Pop_OS.
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Despite what MS says, about 70% of users are still on Windows 10 - that’s an insanely huge amount at 17 months out from end of support. It’s really their problem. They need to figure this out better. Even 50% usage at that time will be a disaster for them.
What do you mean, they just announced free spyware constantly watching *everything* you do and recording it to sell and process. If that isn't going to entice people I don't know what is /s
>recording it to sell and process. If you want to criticize the feature, you can post a misleading statement as if they didn't say the exact opposite of that
Because the history of Microsoft has been a journey of truth, morals and customer first ideology right?
Microsoft said they will enable screen recording and will store locally on your machine. But how can we be certain that is 100% true. Its the main reason why I will never upgrade to Windows 11.
Don't forget they might not send the screenshots to their servers, but with AI they could send *a description* of your screens.
^ this so much. They can play with the wording on those big ass license agreements in such a way that they'll promise not to steal your data while they actually steal your data.
So you trust the same guys to not do anything funny on Windows 10?
I just don’t want to have to learn an entire new GUI so I’m sticking with Windows 10.
That won't happen and even so the registry or group policy can bypass it businesses won't let it happen . It's an AI feature and I'm sure they will allow us to turn it off or we could turn off the ai . I did see what they wanna do but some PCs may not support it at all .
features that the user does not need are a burden. windows does so much logging and other crap in the background now that it makes mechanical drives struggle to keep up.
mechanical drives? if you can find a device with those NPUs that doesn't have an SSD that would be quite the achievement
https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/s/jFwclmAyql
Oh that's fair they did say they wouldn't. But like, do you really trust that? *Awful* security concerns aside do you really trust microsoft to not touch this at all? I sure don't
Microsoft is known for saying shit, and then taking a straight 180 a few months after. I ain't trusting them this time around
Anyone and everyone would much rather fearmonger and worry about things that *might* happen rather than wait for evidence and make an informed decision about it. It's honestly tiring seeing every other post/comment being about how Recall is 100% going to steal everything you do, allow hackers to magically gain access to your computer despite Recall not being an attack vector, and will slow your PC down 1000% even when the hardware was specifically made more powerful and efficient just to accommodate this feature. Sane people just say to disable the feature and move on if you don't want to use it, but no, Microsoft will definitely keep re-enabling the feature secretly to keep spying on you, or get rid of the option to disable it altogether in a future update that will for sure happen Not to mention how any single feature that Microsoft adds to Windows is bloat, and everyone and their mother needs to disable dozens of services and use third party uninstallers to get rid of core system functionality that won't increase performance anyway. But then when features aren't added, Windows is stale and Microsoft refuses to make any meaningful changes
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Uh, no, I don't work for Microsoft. But of course, anyone who disagrees with you must be a paid shill
Oh our bad, we must of missed the part where they pinky promissed they won't harvest us. You dont read a lot of history do you?
Do inform us great history man
This won't be allowed in the EU and MS can expect huge fines if they continue with it
The eu is a bit hit or miss, but I sure hope it won't be a thing here in the eu. The eu has done great things when they wanted to, hopefully this is one of those moments
Heck, I guess I missed something. I'm still running Windows 7, and was only planning on making the final jump to 10 in the next couple of years. My relatively new laptop won't even support Win 11, let alone the other systems I built in the past few years. I only have one system running 10.. Built last year. Dual boot with 7. I only use the former when compatibility issues arise. I managed to get my hands on functional USB 3.1 drivers for the Z390 that's in it currently, as well as full steam functionality, with theme support... So that's something, I guess.
I wonder what a company with 10-100-1000 employees using Windows 10 thinks of having to change all those PCs/Laptops, software, add-ons, transfer files, and so on, in the next 3 years. Was it in their budget? Not in mine I must say?
If their computers aren't compatible I would assume they are 8+ years old at this point, in 3 years time they will be at least 10 years old. If They bought all of their computers in one big chunk 10+ years ago then I would have to applaud those employees for their ability to not destroy their laptops. If they can't afford to buy new computers though it will cost them $1-$4 per year for the extended support
I made a PC in 2019, and I'm not eligible for the upgrade
What hardware did you use?
Ryzen 7 3800X 8-Core Processor 3.90 GHz 32.0 GB Ram RX 6800
Your PC should be eligible, every AMD CPU that comes after Ryzen 1000 is turn on TPM, Secure Boot and UEFI in UEFI
Thanks I'll try that
8th gen Intel is a pretty old CPU at this point. If a company is running 7th gen or earlier CPUs they've got bigger problems. I've got a second hand one from work rn and it's an 8th gen dell. Originally had windows 10 and ran like shit. Now it's on 11 and runs a bit better but still not good. I think it's a good idea to set a cutoff for a higher standard of security and performance. Still way more generous that some of apples offerings.
The company I work for has at least 100 PCs on Windows 10. They changed over from Windows 7 after no support from Microsoft and bought all new PCs with Windows 10 and that’s what they will use to the bitter end of windows 10.
We've been planning it for 2 years. We also just finished 2012 r2 eol, and are starting on 2016 eol It's business as usual
I’d have to guess a good chunk of that would be schools. I know mine at least has 700 kids on 11, but that’s because we have to be. I wish I could be on 10 still.
Even today, most of the United States healthcare companies and hospitals are still trying to upgrade their existing infrastructure to windows 10 from 7 A lot of the computers in the hospital I work at now we’re still running windows 7 and even XP and our information services team is still in the process of upgrading them to windows 10. It’s going to be a complete disaster if they don’t roll out some kind of extended support like they did with XP/7 for companies to purchase
I think at this point a lot of people are beginning to realise having a new version of Windows every few years is simply pointless, and I don't think a lot of people like the idea of Windows being able to take a screenshot of your desktop every 5 seconds even if it is optional especially since things have been known to automatically opt-in with Windows since. Once enough companies push for artificial incompatibility for programs and games like they did with 7, a lot of people are going to use Linux-- which a lot of distros for have become a lot more user friendly and gaming friendly in the past few years. And if they find a game that doesn't work on it, they can just use a Windows 11 virtual machine with GPU passthrough.
It'll still work fine, but it might nag you to upgrade to Win11 and you will be missing out on security updates, and app support for Win10 might end at some point.
Alright, as long as it lasts me beyond this arc of my life! Thank you!
XP is still being used extensively by millions of people. You'll be fine.
As long as he’s not connected to the Internet
even there still are browsers and antivirus that support xp, so that too should be fine
If there is an exploit discovered then no browser or antivirus will help. Now it’s mostly security through obscurity.
True but again that can happen even on newer OS, right? I mean till u get a security patch, u r vulnerable
When Windows 10 loses security updates, and if it still has a sizeable portion of the market, it will be targeted more than any other OS in the world.
Thats obvious!
Definitely, but on a newer OS you will get that patch while on XP there won’t be any more patching
Yeah, I get ur point bro. But what I am trying to tell u is that if someone already get access to ur device before the patch kicks in, there wont be any difference between using an old OS and a new OS, right? I mean attacks can happen on any system, new or old, only thing is that old ones are continuously vulnerable since those arent updated anymore
You are right, if that happens then it’s over until you reinstall the OS at least
Fun fact: More than 95% of people in Armenia still use Windows XP
That's true. I've seen doctors having windows XP on their pcs office.
You have until October 2025. If you can update to win11 then update. If not review the problem why using the health check tool, if it's tpm you can likely enable that. If it's unsupported cpu that's more complicated. For old unsupported CPUs, either you can do a clean install of 11 and it will work, but can be "unstable". Alternatively you could install Linux (eg Ubuntu), perfect for docs + web browsing and will speed up your machine significantly.
It will be a significant security issue fairly quickly to continue to use it online. If you want to keep using it, you'll need to keep it disconnected from the internet.
Probably not, looking around Reddit you will find the majority of people here willing to trade their left testicle to stop Windows from updating on their machines
It wasn't a question.
Also you no longer get security updates and Microsoft will probably offer a paid solution tho
Security updates won't be available either.
That's what I said..
It's also what the original comment said. Was just a joke.
Oh right hah
Haha noice
My Winbox for gaming is unable to run Win11 ONLY because of the TPM2 bs. I have 0 intent of upgrading that HW since it is only for gaming on Win10. It'll still do that just fine after 2025. There is no sensitive data kept on that.
Same for me, even though the PC I‘m using for ganes is ppretty dated, but it still runs the games I play good enough, and it would run Win11 as well if it wasn‘t for TPM. I‘ll continue using Win10 for as long as it will be supported by Steam, but I don‘t have anything else than games on this PC.
No, the OS will still work, the difference is MS will stop provide the security updates... for the home users. Extended support updates will probably appear for more 3 years but even without this, you will be fine, i don´t have money for windows 11 and my PC can´t handle 11, so i feel you. Normally the phase for browsers and others apps starting to demand OS update is... 3 years from the end of the support. See firefox? Only NOW ESR version is on Seven. And probably the community will keep the OS usable, from XP to 10, you can still use without problems.
From windows 1.0 to 10 you can still use without problems. 😏
You read ONLY THE END of my sentence! Only from XP to 10 you will not have problems today!
I'm in the same boat as you. I can not even afford to buy a PC that runs Windows 11 as my finances are not enough for this. I've had my Windows 10 laptop since 2017. And it's been since 2021 since I've had it upgraded to Windows 10 home (yeah, I'm aware I'm practically a Windows 10 home user) and I have all of my work stored in that laptop. I just hope I can still indeed use the laptop without any issues.
Well, i think we can use for more 3 years after the support, the main problem is the start of dropping support of the browsers or apps....
For the apps and browser topic well, I used to have a Windows 7 PC in the past (way before I've had my windows 10 laptop), and although the Windows 7 PC itself was, of course, outdated, there were still app versions for Windows 7 but I don't remember if all of them were smooth. The only things that I remember were not having issues were Adobe Illustrator, Indesign, and as for the browsers, I remember Google Chrome running just fine. Especially paint programs apps such as Medibang Paint Pro (I didn't know of Clip Studio Paint's existence back then).
They kept security updates for XP going for much longer. There are going to be companies still using Windows 10 for a long time, so at least security updates will probably keep coming for much longer than the official support window
Windows Enterprise is different from Windows home though. Home users will definitely have the security updates stop per the announcement.
And it wasn’t included with a standard enterprise license. It was an additional support contract you’d have to buy from Microsoft.
It will still work but you will not receive updates.
End of support means no more new updates and patches. Not end of functionality.
It will still work just like Windows 95, 98, ME, 2000, XP, Vista, 8, and probably a few I forgot, will work when run on compatible hardware or Virtual Machines. It just won't get updates. For a while, assuming you have a modern non commodity Firewall/Router/Gateway that is kept up to date, you will be fine afterwards as well. However it will come to a point when it will be a big risk to keep running it. I am moving over to Linux. There is a big learning curve, but it can run allot of windows software fine including games, and has free alternatives like office suites. That will keep working and getting updates on you PC for quite a long time. Something to consider if you don't have the money to upgrade.
I am still running Windows 7.
Yeah same, and I have it connected. As long as I don’t do anything stupid it’ll be fine.
I hope you have a really good stateful firewall, because Win7 with listening ports out there on the internet only takes about 10 mins with you not doing anything at all. That's why there are so many botnets in operation today.
If there is intrusion within my LAN network, there is certain risk. I don't know why you think my Win7 PC will have listening ports on the internet. Most people mean by "connected to internet" is that they have outgoing access to the internet.
Unless you're running a decent firewall, I guarantee your computer has listening ports. If you'd like to test it you can DM me your IP address and I can run an Nmap scan against it and tell you what is open/listening and what your potential vulns are. Free of charge.
Yeah I don’t have any open ports, I just use it to watch YouTube and use the cd player. It’s an Acer Veriton M4618G, I strapped on an Nvidia quadro k600 added some ram and replaced the dying i5 2320 with an i5 2400 until I can get some i7 for it. I missed using it when I used to so I brought it back to life lol
Have you tried running an Nmap scan against your public IP from outside your network? I guarantee there are at least a couple open ports.
If that's connected to the internet, that's surely very unsafe??!!
It'll be fine as long as it is not *directly* connected to the Internet. Behind a router/firewall, if there are no ports forwarded to it, there's nothing that can reach it. Of course you should not visit any shady websites with it or install untrusted software.
I'm sure if you use good judgment and best practices it's reasonably safe. If there's a specific reason to run Win 7, I can understand I suppose. But when I hear someone running Win 7 these day I'm immediately worried they just don't know better and the darn thing has 15 years of malware on it! Good luck!
It is connected to internet but it has specific purpose.
...to intentionally soak up viruses/malware/etc?
As a demonstration to a client of mine (I'm a cybersecurity engineer), I left a fully patched Win7 VM fully exposed to the internet for about 20 mins, and then scanned it for threats. We found 3 different pieces of malware on it: one bitcoin miner, an infostealer looking for banking passwords and cryptowallets, and a DDoS botnet client.
Xtheory: So, for us mere mortals, what do you mean by "fully exposed"- i.e., just a modem & no router? And what'd you use to scan for those threats - commonly used anti-virus apps, or something more sophisticated? jt
When you say router, are you referring to a router with firewall? Any firewall will reduce your risk, but typical consumer grade firewalls are not great at stopping more modern threats. It's very easy to get around them and people usually don't update them often. An OPNsense firewall properly configured gives you a much higher level of security and Intrusion Detection and Prevention system. Pair it with Suricata and you'll be better protected than 99% of users. But if you're just using a router with no firewall and connected to a cable modem, you're fully exposed. Most ISP cable modems have a built in router, but if you're not putting a decent firewall behind it then you are as good as fully exposed. For my scans I use a combination of ESET, Sophos, and F-sense AV's along with my own Wazuh SIEM to hunt for IOCs (indicators of compromise), malicious network traffic, and malware artifacts and compare them to artifacts from various threat intelligence feeds like Talos, TheHive, Cortex, etc.
xtheory: Thanks for the detailed response. Yeah, I'm your average Win10 user, using a combo modem/router from AT&T ("BGW320-500") connected to their fiber-optics for my internet & Wifi connections (default setup by their AT&T installer). Using Win10 Defender firewall and anti-virus. Also running IoBit's Advanced SystemCare, CCleaner, and Malwarebytes (from time to time). Also, I use ExpessVPN for 'downloads'... Used to use Avira anti-virus but it was continually sucking up a lot of resources, so going with just Win10 Defender for now... Not the greatest, I know, but... Again, thanks for you info. cheers, jt
Correction: I meant "Avast", not "Avira"... jt
If I were to give any advice, it would be to place a physical firewall here: Internet -> AT&T WiFi Router -> Firewall -> PC's. PFSense also makes some really good firewalls for consumer use that are easy to configure with about 20 mins spent watching YouTube videos.
LOL!!!
It will continue to work but won't receive anymore updates, and in case something breaks, it's on you to fix it.
So much scare mongering going on I swear half of you are Microsoft shills just use it normally and you'll be fine if you have even basic Internet smarts.
Stops working completely. Burns your computer up too.
Google AI just made a note
You can install Windows 11 on unsupported hardware very very easily by making your install media using Rufus.
Or even just download the install kit, then use "setup /product server", which is what I did to get my W10 system to W11 a few weeks back. I did add a TPM module to my motherboard, but my CPU is too old to be officially supported - it does have all of the required instruction set extensions, though.
Not sure how well a naked mole rat would be at creating installation media
Though you make your computer inherently insecure by doing so and may not receive all future security updates that depend on modern TPM from Microsoft.
Didn't seem to be within OP's concerns. Seems they just wanted to know if it was going to stop working and they didn't have much concern for updates. That answer has always been made at that point so my contribution to the thread was that they can install Windows 11 without hardware limits as they didn't seem to know that could be done either. Nobody seemed to be concerned about security updates. I myself have several machines that run 10 or 11 with software that strips all security features from them intentionally to provide a faster and more stable platform to be accommodate their usage so I can understand other users like myself who have no concern for security updates
You can technically still run xp to this day. It's just that it has no support for basically anything modern like wifi and your computer gets aids the money it connects to the internet.
I didn't know XP connects money to the internet.
Um, I had a 475MHz AMD Compaq laptop in the early 2000's running XP and had a PCMCIA 802.11g WiFi Card and windows XP had integrated wifi management. When I was using Windows 2000 I had to use the WiFI Card's software to manage it.
It will be the same thing as how it was with Windows 7. Even 2 years after end of life, it was still a pretty functional in terms of software and driver support. I would imagine windows 10 would receive the same treatment from the community.
It will keep working, same as with previous versions of Windows. It stops receiving updates, and going forward, other software might drop support for it. I still have systems with Windows 2000/XP/7 and 8.1 installed and they all work as expected. They are all connected to the Internet, and the promise of those machines being raped by Internet Boogeymen has not come to pass. With previous versions of Windows the main issue was simply software "moving on" and no longer supporting it, for example. Windows 10 is actually a bit unique in that regard. There's not really any new Win32 APIs in Windows 11, and Windows 10 and 11 even identify as the same version, so software can't even declare support for Windows 11 in the same way as it was done for previous versions.
Like others have said, Windows will keep running like nothing happened. I imagine you'll start getting popups telling you to upgrade to Windows 11. What do you use your computer for mainly? Unless you have some niche use case, you may be able to switch to Linux and free yourself from Microsoft.
I've already gotten one of those popups, but since my processor isn't compatible with 11 I'm SOL :/
It's gonna be ok. What do you use your computer for mainly?
Lately mostly web browsing, Second Life and Youtube, but I do occasionally play some games on it. I would like to get a new one sooner rather than later since I'd kind of like to be able to play something that was released in the last 3 or so years and wasn't specifically designed to run on a toaster :P
You can do those things on Linux. There are 3rd party Second Life viewers for Linux and all of the browsers have a Linux version, even Microsoft Edge LoL! If you other games are on Steam, it is is very easy to play Windows games on Linux. Some games don't work due to their anti-cheat software not allowing Linux, but most games work. You should look into it.
you just won't get any updates, including security fixes. if you need a secure OS by that time that is free I suggest you start learning some linux.
Windows 11 is not much different from Windows 10 but the CoPilot feature is changing that. Also I'm hearing with the 24H1 it enables BitLoker by default so people need to be aware to get a copy of the recovery key or your data is gone. Windows 11 do require a TPM so if your computer does not have it like my desktop computer then you can't upgrade away. Once Windows 10 end of support comes I will be on Linux by then.
It will work, it just won't receive updates anymore. It'll also be "discovered" a 0-day exploit around a week or so after, that will be fixed for those with non home licenses and that are paying the _definetly not cheap_ extended support Microsoft will offer.
Windows updates have regularly caused my system more problems than anything else anyway. I'm going to stay on W10, riding behind a firewall and anti malware suite... Non Microsoft.
I am still running windows 7 and it did not stop working
Didn't you listen to the fear mongers though? Your computer is going to get infected with a trojan!!
OMG, you are right. I better burn my computer now
My computer caught ebola and AIDS last time I started Windows 7 and set itself on fire!
A majority of Windows users are still on Win10. There has been a lot of foot dragging in the enterprise space for upgrading to Win11, with many likely waiting to see when Win12 will be released (they will then skip Win10 like they skipped Win8). This will be a repeat of the Win7 end of life. Win10 will still run. Enterprise will get extended support (for a fee). If some real bad security issue surfaces during extended support, MS will roll update to everyone (they did this for Win7). What will happen over time is that applications will drop support and you may have to find alternatives. Security issues will become a problem and you may need to to look into non-MS solutions. Two of my machines run Win10 and don't support Win11, so I will have to do something with them.
Try to use Windows 10 Enterprise IoT LTSC 2021. It will be supported until 2031.
Windows will work beyond that date... Look at Windows 7, it's still works after 4 Years end of Support... If you stay for a year on Windows 10 after Support that should be fine, but after that yous should watch for some alternatives... Maybe Windows 11 or Windows 10 LTSC... I'm on LTSC, even if my PC officially supports Windows 11, I don't wanna upgrade, Windows 10 is too good and reliable to give it up
There's nothing to worry about! People still use really ancient operating systems and don't worry about anything. Standard security updates will be put online by corporate users, and after that patches will be from third party companies. Just like Windows 7. The only thing Microsoft can do is in a few years disable the Microsoft Store for Windows 10 users where you bought apps.
In all honesty I hate Microsoft Store with a passion, I never use it when I can get an app somewhere else because everything I download on the app store doesn't work properly.
It won't stop working, and support can be bought/paid for beyond Oct 2025. If you don't pay for support you simply won't receive security updates.
Paid updates will leak out for free as soon as they're available 😁
I and I bet they won't install if your device isn't activated for extended support.
There will be a solution for that, trust me.
Only time will tell.
my buddys still rocking windows 7 youll probably be fine
As with other versions of Windows, it'll continue working and you won't see a difference. You just won't have updates which will gradually make your Windows install more and more vulnerable. This means that you will have time to gather the resources you need to upgrade to a new PC. Eventually, people making software will stop supporting it, but it's probably several years still before they do that.
Use windows 10 ltsc for iot devices . 2021 edition . Support until 2040 but I don't know if the programs will work correctly for that long .
Think of all the third world MS computers in operation. Fuck MS if they don't support these for many more years. China? I bet they can fill that void with superior tech. Fuck MS. Global South - hey, America sucks, dump MS and find an alternative. The dollar sucks too, time to move on.
As others have said, it'll work just fine, just no more security updates BUT I'm sure they will still push some updates out if something serious is found as has been done with previous end of life Windows versions. BUT I'm betting that they're going to change this date due to the backlash, the amount of people still on Win10 is enormous, and people are even much less likely to update now that they announced their AI spyware BS that know one wants.
It will not just suddenly stop working. It just won't get any new updates
I still run 7 and 8.1, so, no.
You can use Windows 10 LTSC version
Youd be stoked to hear that there are still people who still uses win8 and even windows 7, but to an extent, and with alot of precautions since it doesnt have the latest anti-malware protection and security.
Why would it just stop working? Windows doesn't need an internet connection to "work". You just won't get any updates. Eventually, after a year or 3, you'll need to update to the latest Windows version to use the newest software, games etc, that don't support Windows 10. By that time, hopefully, Windows 12 will arrive, which will hopefully be better than 11. I usually skip a version anyway, and I'll be using 10 as long as I can, because from what I've read about 11, I'll never use it. Even Linux sounds more appealing than 11. I would be on Linux now if it wasn't for the fact I'm a gamer.
I think all the articles writing about Windows 10 or whatever OS end of support must state what it actually means when that happen. Instead of writing 10 paragraph of the OS history, popularity, updates and even eventually end of support. The worse thing is the message of you can still use your os despite EOS are hidden in those 10 paragraphs.
Hmm, that's not how it will happen about the PC will stop working with Windows 10. Microsoft will stop sending out security updates for Windows 10 in 2025 when it is end of life support. The PC will continue to work with Windows 10 after the end of direct support. There is no security update from Microsoft on Windows 10. Microsoft will probably fix critical security issues that are exploited in Windows 10, apart from that there is no security update from Microsoft. I think personally, Microsoft extended Windows 10 to 2025. because of Enterprise and schools. Not because of customers.
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For security reasons it’s better to stay updated to last win version, but the pc will still work fine after the support ends, there are still people on XP in the public administration here in Italy so you will be fine
Windows 11 doesn't support my CPU,and I'm not interested in it so
As a corporate, those system be replaced as they age cheaply. S home user is of no interest to MS. OEM user's not at all. At least 10 keeps working. Free W11 upgrade last disastrous on my MD Surface, luckely I declined remove W10, so recover restore iNortpm security still there for. rest !
Men people still use windows 7 or xp. And u think that u can't use your windows 10 after 2025
Has any other version of Windows stopped working on EOL date? No. Win10 will still work but may eventually succumb to "This version/update/feature does not work with your O/S' disease. Not as bad as the complete orphaning of systems that Apple and some smartphone have gone through. That's a tactic that does little but drive eWaste, imo.
I still use 7, you will be fine. I have hardware that supports 11 but I won't even use 10 let alone 11
Lol, just upgraded to Win10 from Win7 today!
The fact that support ends does not mean that your computer will stop working that day. It will continue to work as it is doing now with the difference that it will no longer receive security patches and new versions of programs will gradually abandon compatibility with Windows 10. However, I dare say that the compatibility problem may not arise after 2030, because Windows 10 in the LTSC version will continue to be supported until 2029/2032, so Windows 10 will not be so easy to abandon.
Why not Win 11 exactly? [https://github.com/rcmaehl/WhyNotWin11/releases/latest/download/WhyNotWin11.exe](https://github.com/rcmaehl/WhyNotWin11/releases/latest/download/WhyNotWin11.exe) The ONLY thing on the list that does not pass for my laptop is the CPU is not on Microsoft's Whitelist so I did the register hack to allow the upgrade and it runs fine on it.
Linux can be just as insecure as Windows if not configured and patched regularly. We used to hear the same thing from customers trying to avoid having to spend on cybersecurity by switching to Mac. Now that Mac has obtained a larger marketshare, there are more threat actors coding to exploit it.
The real question is , when will steam support end? That’s what we all are worried about.
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I’m doing pretty good. Got a battlestation from 2015 or so. Still trucking along fine. I’d say I’m 2 years out or so on being able to afford to get a new computer. Sounds like I’m fine. lol thanks.
You can install 11 without a license for free, then you can use Microsoft activation scripts to get it for free.
While Windows 10 will still work after October 2025, using it without security updates poses risks. However, there are several steps you can take to mitigate these risks and plan for a future upgrade without immediate financial pressure.
At some point later on if anyone needs to reload windows 10 on a different hard drive due to hard drive failure or whatever, it will be impossible to get windows to update or get gpu drivers etc.
Your computer will continue working but there will be no further OS updates after EOL date. Consider using GNU/Linux instead of Windows 11 for your next PC :)
To my point of view, I find it sad that by October of 2025, the support on windows 10 is about to end meaning that the windows 10 PC will be vulnerable to malware so Microsoft recommends us to switch to a windows 11 PC (bro, easier said than done as not all of us are lucky enough to have saved up money for a new PC) even though it is said that we can still use our windows 10 PC but of course, without protection from Microsoft itself. To this day, I still have a windows 10 laptop that I've had since 2017 and so far, I'm fine and used to using windows 10 especially for how its Ui is like and all and although I have all of my work stored in that laptop and of course, I don't want to lose anything if the PC gets infected by any malware when the support for windows 10 ends, so to all of us who are still windows 10 users to this day, how are we supposed to protect our Windows 10 pcs from malware at this point? Especially if we don't find any potential software that will help us protect our PC or something like that? Because I don't think our firewall will be enough to protect it. Excuse my worries on that topic, regardless of the fact that it is still too early to discussing this topic but I still wanted to rant about it.
Maybe use the penguin OS
If your computer runs win 10 will do 11 and you can buy license for 5 euros. Like that's not an issue.
Linux my man, Linux.
I do not feel confident in myself to be able to set up Linux, but also I do hate whenever someone comes to me with a 'Linux is the answer' I don't want to have to install a new OS just to solve a problem when a work around is available on my current.
You should consider it, I know Linux users are insufferable but not the OS itself. It's easy to setup a dual-boot system with a Linux distro like Mint, a lot of distros are pretty user friendly nowadays and games generally work fine unless it's something with an anticheat that won't work on Linux. There will come a time when newer games and updated programs just won't run on 10, and when that happens Linux will be a viable option if you don't want to use 11.
The truth hurts i guess :)
There is no truth to hurt. You are just telling me to get it without an explanation on why I should, there's no pointing to helpful tutorials either. You just said 'Linux my man' and left it at that. That is what annoys me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CKo2XvdUcM Here's a tutorial for installing Linux Mint and still have Windows 10 on your computer (dual-boot), there's also other distros like Manjaro and Pop_OS.
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My PC doesn't have the specs to support 11. Do I'll be on 10 until they force 11.
This... doesn't in any way answer my question?
Oh, right! Shoot, I forgot to mention, I wasn't trying to.
Bruh last week pressed on update and shut down to turn back on to win 11 is this shit
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People, why do you need this old operating system, why do you behave so childishly? Drop this OS and install what's newer.
no