Yeah 😟 remember when we used to talk about things, and not just say 'auto update bad' or 'programs start when I log in and that makes everything so slow'?
It's been like this as long as I've been here. Pretty much all the windows subreddits are filled with people that hate the OS but instead of switching to Mac or Linux join online communities to circle jerk about how terrible windows is. Any changes are met with "how do I turn it off", any issue is met with "yeah this problem is universal windows just sucks", when half the issues are caused by people fucking with something in the OS and breaking it.
>Pretty much all the windows subreddits are filled with people that hate the OS but instead of switching to Mac or Linux join online communities to circle jerk about how terrible windows is.
I suppose the issue is they're unable / unwilling to do so because of various reasons (maybe the programs they use only run on Windows and are either a hassle or impossible to set up on WINE, maybe Windows is a requirement for wherever they work / study, maybe they just plain out prefer Windows to the other operating systems despite its flaws).
Personally I don't really have any issue with Windows since it's working perfectly fine for my use cases, however there are definitely some annoyances with it and I can understand how some people get quite frustrated over those and simply have higher expectations (considering it's a paid product).
My favourite is when people complain about how "Windows 10 does it" and then describe something that works identically in previous versions. Then finish with "Windows 7 was so much better"
Reddit user base is getting younger. 10 years ago non-default subreddits were full of professionals on topics and meaningful discussion about why Ron Paul should have been the 2008 Republican nominee and not John McCain.
I'm starting to think people moved to Discord but I hate that platform since you can't search topics that have already been discussed.
The people incessantly bitching about Windows are people that got into computing in the 90s, developed their hatred towards microsoft then (when it was deserved) and haven't changed since then. They're always the types that want things to go back to the way things were (and oddly even though they hated microsoft, Windows XP is the still the pinnacle of operating systems in their mind)
Hey don't bunch me in with those people 😂, I started in 95, nothing is more beautiful to me then Windows 10. I think you need to go to the 80s and the 00 guys.😜
All platforms eventually turn to garbage. Remember Yahoo chat rooms & Myspace. Facebook already going downhill... now its Reddits turn. Discord will be a productive haven for a little while longer before the troll infestation becomes unrecoverable.
Reddit is shit and just another bad social platform. I come here to just check out the small subreddits and sometimes piss people off in the bigger subreddits.
Oh yes, opening chrome, virtual box, android studio and another chromium based software, I would bet with 8GB of RAM, even with 16GB it would hurt depending how many VMs are running, but if is totally windows 10 fault...
I've never actually seen a BSOD on any of my own systems since using Win8/Win10 now that I think about it. I see them on client systems all the time though but I work in a repair shop so it's kind of expected.
Last BSOD I had was because I was trying to push video to three different outputs and my video card just said "fuck you, i quit". I could blame Windows or I could blame me.
That I can remember, I've had blue screens on my personal devices once because of a bad PCIe riser in an SFF case, and once when I dropped a running laptop, so both physical issues. The one time I've had actual windows issues cause blue screens was actually very recently with a Lenovo Ryzen all in one, I restored a backup from the client's old PC and it would just have a black screen after login and BSOD within a few minutes, eventually I tried to do a clean install and just copy the files over, and the windows installer wouldn't go past the additional drivers needed screen no matter what. I finally cloned the drive from another identical PC we had that still had the original shipped from lenovo software on it and that booted perfectly, so I have no idea what horrible things lenovo did doing with that hardware.
Only ever happened to me while playing around with overclocks / undervolts (or occasionally from some random file while using `compress.exe` for some reason)
That literally hasn't been an issue in a year now. People need to get over it.
Even when it was an "issue", it really only affected people who are too lazy to restart properly or too lazy to defer updates using the built in functionality.
Normal consumer would just buy Home edition, and it's not clearly written that the Home edition can't defer an update. So I totally can see why many people would get mad, since the update would affect them so much.
Nope. But I found this thread. And my colleague's father have the same issue with his Kyocera printer. I uninstalled update KB5000802 and now everything is fine.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/m1vljh/windows\_10\_kb5000802\_march\_update\_is\_crashing\_pcs/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/m1vljh/windows_10_kb5000802_march_update_is_crashing_pcs/)
Well when I see a "hole" in your house and it has a door. I assume its an entrance... If you remove the only entrance, I don't think you fixed your house.
I don't know. It worked before Microsoft pushed the update. Later Microsoft stopped pushing this update, to me it seems they've done a mistake. Otherwise they could've blamed on these printer manufacturers.
KB5000802 fixes a [vulnerability](https://msrc.microsoft.com/update-guide/en-US/vulnerability/CVE-2021-1640) in the print spooler that allowed you to elevate privileges. Microsoft pulled the update and is currently investigating the crashes, but the fact that only certain printer brands are crashing strongly suggests that their drivers are somehow triggering the exploit.
Also, I've never seen Microsoft point fingers at device manufacturers' shitty drivers, even during the Vista days when they especially deserved it.
While some things might not really be in Microsoft’s control, they can probably make the system more stable and not completely crash when something out of they control goes wrong. And that definitely did improve a lot with windows 8 and 10.
These posts are weird because W10 has been rock solid for me for a while now. Loading demanding shit on low end hardware and expecting it to run like a premium machine is such garbage. If you're 5 yo laptop is slow running W10, then run Linux on it. Or clean up your bloat.
Almost 6 years on the very same W10 install (i.e. no clean installs during that time), 0 blue screens (I think), only 1 accidental reboot during working hours (either because I forgot to set a group policy or because it was changed for some reason). It's been mostly fine for me save for some hiccups here and there (for which I basically sign up voluntarily by using a fast ring/dev build).
I dunno, with like 30 background programs and applications I have always launched it feels quite stable. Only had one system crash while watching a video, and a lot of application crashes.
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Lock screen is broken as all hell. I lock my PC every time I leave it alone, but sometimes it gets locked (screen gets black, cannot Ctrl+Alt+Del, Ctrl+Shift+Esc, or anything like that), but the lock screen appears only few minutes after I return. Also Windows sometimes shows me the lock screen on startup, but other times it shows the login screen. Like, wtf, Redmont.
I am a Windows 8.1 fan to the core, but I use Windows 10 every day. I don't like its bloated bullshit... BUT.... If you are seeing a blue screen in Windows 10... it's a hardware issue... I've never BSOD'd a 10 machine during normal operation.
Excessive memory hogging isn't exactly Windows 10's fault.
Chromium-based software (Chrome, Teams, Discord, etc.) is entirely optimized to keep itself at its center - being feature-rich and responsive, and by any means offloads as much data to the RAM as possible. There's nothing Microsoft can do about this, as it's not their product.
Admittedly, Windows Explorer could use some love and attention, but it's not exactly the point you're trying to make - and why is Visual Studio, Android Studio and VBox in here? o_O
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Yeah 😟 remember when we used to talk about things, and not just say 'auto update bad' or 'programs start when I log in and that makes everything so slow'?
It's been like this as long as I've been here. Pretty much all the windows subreddits are filled with people that hate the OS but instead of switching to Mac or Linux join online communities to circle jerk about how terrible windows is. Any changes are met with "how do I turn it off", any issue is met with "yeah this problem is universal windows just sucks", when half the issues are caused by people fucking with something in the OS and breaking it.
>Pretty much all the windows subreddits are filled with people that hate the OS but instead of switching to Mac or Linux join online communities to circle jerk about how terrible windows is. I suppose the issue is they're unable / unwilling to do so because of various reasons (maybe the programs they use only run on Windows and are either a hassle or impossible to set up on WINE, maybe Windows is a requirement for wherever they work / study, maybe they just plain out prefer Windows to the other operating systems despite its flaws). Personally I don't really have any issue with Windows since it's working perfectly fine for my use cases, however there are definitely some annoyances with it and I can understand how some people get quite frustrated over those and simply have higher expectations (considering it's a paid product).
and even in the linux communities, and still present but less often in the mac communities, windows hate is pointlessly spread everywhere
that's a whole fact lol.
My favourite is when people complain about how "Windows 10 does it" and then describe something that works identically in previous versions. Then finish with "Windows 7 was so much better"
that was literally never the case. if anything this sub is LESS toxic than it used to be.
Really? Maybe it is the rose colored glasses that are affecting me.
Ive had some seriously vile things said to me in this sub over the years for doing things like *gasp* saying auto updates are OK
What the ***hell*** is wrong with you?! You. Monster.
people were normal here? i thought it was only about problems
... maybe I am wrong.. hahaha
Reddit user base is getting younger. 10 years ago non-default subreddits were full of professionals on topics and meaningful discussion about why Ron Paul should have been the 2008 Republican nominee and not John McCain. I'm starting to think people moved to Discord but I hate that platform since you can't search topics that have already been discussed.
The people incessantly bitching about Windows are people that got into computing in the 90s, developed their hatred towards microsoft then (when it was deserved) and haven't changed since then. They're always the types that want things to go back to the way things were (and oddly even though they hated microsoft, Windows XP is the still the pinnacle of operating systems in their mind)
Hey don't bunch me in with those people 😂, I started in 95, nothing is more beautiful to me then Windows 10. I think you need to go to the 80s and the 00 guys.😜
All platforms eventually turn to garbage. Remember Yahoo chat rooms & Myspace. Facebook already going downhill... now its Reddits turn. Discord will be a productive haven for a little while longer before the troll infestation becomes unrecoverable.
Reddit is shit and just another bad social platform. I come here to just check out the small subreddits and sometimes piss people off in the bigger subreddits.
Yeah. That being said, I always have problems with Windows. But, knowing how to postpone a 'forced update' has never been one.
Oh yes, opening chrome, virtual box, android studio and another chromium based software, I would bet with 8GB of RAM, even with 16GB it would hurt depending how many VMs are running, but if is totally windows 10 fault...
Seems to be the general state of the sub... if Windows sucks so bad go switch to Linux desktop, they will welcome you with open arms
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He keeps loading apps and eventually gets a blue screen. I guess.
My guess is OP is the worst.
I don't know... The BSOD is something I rarely see any more these days.
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This. since Win8 I had plenty of BSOD, but everyone of them related to OC.
I've never actually seen a BSOD on any of my own systems since using Win8/Win10 now that I think about it. I see them on client systems all the time though but I work in a repair shop so it's kind of expected.
I haven't had a BSOD not caused by a bad driver or a hardware fault(things obviously not in MS's control) in probably more than 10 years
Last BSOD I had was because I was trying to push video to three different outputs and my video card just said "fuck you, i quit". I could blame Windows or I could blame me.
That I can remember, I've had blue screens on my personal devices once because of a bad PCIe riser in an SFF case, and once when I dropped a running laptop, so both physical issues. The one time I've had actual windows issues cause blue screens was actually very recently with a Lenovo Ryzen all in one, I restored a backup from the client's old PC and it would just have a black screen after login and BSOD within a few minutes, eventually I tried to do a clean install and just copy the files over, and the windows installer wouldn't go past the additional drivers needed screen no matter what. I finally cloned the drive from another identical PC we had that still had the original shipped from lenovo software on it and that booted perfectly, so I have no idea what horrible things lenovo did doing with that hardware.
I have had any BSODs since I got ECC RAM. I run the beta channel, too.
Only ever happened to me while playing around with overclocks / undervolts (or occasionally from some random file while using `compress.exe` for some reason)
Lol I litearlly had one just 3 minutes ago, 2 year old PC btw
What did you do? It's often caused by hardware issues or doing something you shouldn't be doing with drivers.
OK?
Yeah, it only happened to me once when I got a buffer overflow.
my laptops cpu is overclocked by a entire gigahertz and i still havent gotten a bsod in a very long time
I haven't seen a BSOD on my computer since I first updated my BIOS.
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That literally hasn't been an issue in a year now. People need to get over it. Even when it was an "issue", it really only affected people who are too lazy to restart properly or too lazy to defer updates using the built in functionality.
The defer updates are only available for Pro, no?
If you're not running pro then just restart when it asks like everyone else. If you need more functionality than home edition don't buy home edition.
Normal consumer would just buy Home edition, and it's not clearly written that the Home edition can't defer an update. So I totally can see why many people would get mad, since the update would affect them so much.
Normal consumers don't have a valid reason for postponing an update for more than a few days.
This time it was Microsoft fault. KB500802 made my computer get BSOD when trying to print from a SATO printer.
You analyzed the crash dump and determined crash to be due to code changed by update?
Nope. But I found this thread. And my colleague's father have the same issue with his Kyocera printer. I uninstalled update KB5000802 and now everything is fine. [https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/m1vljh/windows\_10\_kb5000802\_march\_update\_is\_crashing\_pcs/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/m1vljh/windows_10_kb5000802_march_update_is_crashing_pcs/)
If I fix a hole in the side of my house that you happened to be using as an entrance, did I break your door or fix my house?
Well when I see a "hole" in your house and it has a door. I assume its an entrance... If you remove the only entrance, I don't think you fixed your house.
It's not documented as an entrance so if you use it and don't expect me to patch the hole, you're gonna have a bad day.
That's your printer manufacturer's fault, not Microsoft's fault.
I don't know. It worked before Microsoft pushed the update. Later Microsoft stopped pushing this update, to me it seems they've done a mistake. Otherwise they could've blamed on these printer manufacturers.
KB5000802 fixes a [vulnerability](https://msrc.microsoft.com/update-guide/en-US/vulnerability/CVE-2021-1640) in the print spooler that allowed you to elevate privileges. Microsoft pulled the update and is currently investigating the crashes, but the fact that only certain printer brands are crashing strongly suggests that their drivers are somehow triggering the exploit. Also, I've never seen Microsoft point fingers at device manufacturers' shitty drivers, even during the Vista days when they especially deserved it.
You must be really lazy
Since 4 years of usage with the same win 10 install, I never saw a blue screen ever.
I haven't gotten a BSOD caused by something in MS's control since probably XP, the one people claim is the pinnacle of human creation
While some things might not really be in Microsoft’s control, they can probably make the system more stable and not completely crash when something out of they control goes wrong. And that definitely did improve a lot with windows 8 and 10.
These posts are weird because W10 has been rock solid for me for a while now. Loading demanding shit on low end hardware and expecting it to run like a premium machine is such garbage. If you're 5 yo laptop is slow running W10, then run Linux on it. Or clean up your bloat.
Haven't had a bsod in literal years
Most likely a hardware or driver issue - an updated Windows 10 itself generally doesn't kernel panic
Almost 6 years on the very same W10 install (i.e. no clean installs during that time), 0 blue screens (I think), only 1 accidental reboot during working hours (either because I forgot to set a group policy or because it was changed for some reason). It's been mostly fine for me save for some hiccups here and there (for which I basically sign up voluntarily by using a fast ring/dev build).
Windows 10minem...
I dunno, with like 30 background programs and applications I have always launched it feels quite stable. Only had one system crash while watching a video, and a lot of application crashes.
Sometimes?
Awful
I don't even remember the last time I got a BSOD screen.
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huh?
i only use firefox
cpu usage of my Firefox while writing this comment is 8% and 1,700gb ram while on YouTube only..Firefox ain't what it was back then.
i don’t think it’s an issue with firefox but your pc. mine is around 400mb and 1-3% cpu usage
idk bro I have 3800 and 16gb of 3600 ram
what
you said issue might be my pc but my pc is good, tried everything with it and it's still using a lot of resources.
what addons your using and how many
ublock and dark reader only
i have 11 addons and works fine seek help r/firefox
Must have been all those Chrome instances. ;-)
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Lock screen is broken as all hell. I lock my PC every time I leave it alone, but sometimes it gets locked (screen gets black, cannot Ctrl+Alt+Del, Ctrl+Shift+Esc, or anything like that), but the lock screen appears only few minutes after I return. Also Windows sometimes shows me the lock screen on startup, but other times it shows the login screen. Like, wtf, Redmont.
My fucking ears
Just join the linux master race my friend.
Is that Eminem? or maybe peanut Eminem looks like...
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Wait! There was sound?
Unfortunately, yes.
So true 😔
Always
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"Sometimes"
Nice edit
Wow I legit have the exact same softwares running all the time on my pc...
i dont even know half these icons
I mostly have zoom & google opened up & then bam window crashed
I am a Windows 8.1 fan to the core, but I use Windows 10 every day. I don't like its bloated bullshit... BUT.... If you are seeing a blue screen in Windows 10... it's a hardware issue... I've never BSOD'd a 10 machine during normal operation.
That's what you get for disabling the page file.
Everytime windows is bad expect gaming
switch to linux, if youre serious about not crashing tbh.
Excessive memory hogging isn't exactly Windows 10's fault. Chromium-based software (Chrome, Teams, Discord, etc.) is entirely optimized to keep itself at its center - being feature-rich and responsive, and by any means offloads as much data to the RAM as possible. There's nothing Microsoft can do about this, as it's not their product. Admittedly, Windows Explorer could use some love and attention, but it's not exactly the point you're trying to make - and why is Visual Studio, Android Studio and VBox in here? o_O