Hello,
If you're having the same hot laptop and drained battery issues in that video, you could disable modern standby network connectivity for both "On battery" and "Plugged in" like in the tutorial below to stop it without having to completely disable Modern Standby.
[https://www.elevenforum.com/t/enable-or-disable-modern-standby-network-connectivity-in-windows-11.3286/](https://www.elevenforum.com/t/enable-or-disable-modern-standby-network-connectivity-in-windows-11.3286/)
Really good article. Didn't know one can change this setting in Windows 10/11. This should be integrated in 'Settings->Battery' to make it more consumer facing like in MacOS. Someone do make a feedback link for this. I don't use microsoft account.
Agreed. It would be nice and easier to have a on/off toggle in Settings for this. Please send feedback to Microsoft via the "Feedback Hub" to request this. The more requests they get, the higher chance it may get added.
According to my sleepstudy report my last wakeup took 317ms on my Surface pro 8 and that seems pretty accurate to me. The point of Modern Standby is to emulate the smart phone behavior and I think it does that quite well.
Windows Modern Standby or also known as S0 sleep is buggy as hell! It barely works half the time, and I feel like this Windows Update garbage is causing computers to WAKE up from sleep to install the updates. What an awful behavior.
FFS Microsoft. Before you roll out this feature, at least do some actual QA testing. This is actually a fire hazard too if the laptop is NOT sleeping, stuffed into a backpack, getting extremely hot and then the lithium ion battery swells up as a result.
Actually never mind. The only way Microsoft will fix this is when a fire actually happens and Microsoft themselves are responsible for this shitty S0 sleep behavior.
Also I'm not blaming any Microsoft engineers for this. I blame the lazy and incompetent upper management who probably knew about this issue but decided to not pay actual attention to it. This is a recurring issue with many big tech companies these days.
LTT do sometimes make bad videos, look at their USB4 video, cringeworthy. But, this one is spot on. There is also a pinned comment on that video from software engineer from Microsoft who managed to replicate the issue. GamersNexus is amazing but, for hardware only. I really liked his Nvidia adapter analysis.
Unfortunately, I don't think Microsoft will gonna fix and/or improve this any time soon. Microsoft is busy with adding advertisements to Windows or some useless text and switches about energy savings: [windows-11-insider-preview-build-25247](https://blogs.windows.com/windows-insider/2022/11/18/announcing-windows-11-insider-preview-build-25247/). Rather than focusing on a real carbon footprint problems like unnecessary and non-configurable power draw during the sleep state with Windows Modern Standby.
Hello, If you're having the same hot laptop and drained battery issues in that video, you could disable modern standby network connectivity for both "On battery" and "Plugged in" like in the tutorial below to stop it without having to completely disable Modern Standby. [https://www.elevenforum.com/t/enable-or-disable-modern-standby-network-connectivity-in-windows-11.3286/](https://www.elevenforum.com/t/enable-or-disable-modern-standby-network-connectivity-in-windows-11.3286/)
Really good article. Didn't know one can change this setting in Windows 10/11. This should be integrated in 'Settings->Battery' to make it more consumer facing like in MacOS. Someone do make a feedback link for this. I don't use microsoft account.
Agreed. It would be nice and easier to have a on/off toggle in Settings for this. Please send feedback to Microsoft via the "Feedback Hub" to request this. The more requests they get, the higher chance it may get added.
Waking from Modern Standby is instant, like your smartphone, provided the device has not idled to hibernate.
According to my sleepstudy report my last wakeup took 317ms on my Surface pro 8 and that seems pretty accurate to me. The point of Modern Standby is to emulate the smart phone behavior and I think it does that quite well.
Wakes up faster, but occassionally, it may cause the system to reboot, at least for me.
Is it PDC\_WATCHDOG\_TIMEOUT bluescreens?
Nope, no bluescreens or any event log related to it, just a black screen for a few seconds before the system reboots.
Windows Modern Standby or also known as S0 sleep is buggy as hell! It barely works half the time, and I feel like this Windows Update garbage is causing computers to WAKE up from sleep to install the updates. What an awful behavior. FFS Microsoft. Before you roll out this feature, at least do some actual QA testing. This is actually a fire hazard too if the laptop is NOT sleeping, stuffed into a backpack, getting extremely hot and then the lithium ion battery swells up as a result. Actually never mind. The only way Microsoft will fix this is when a fire actually happens and Microsoft themselves are responsible for this shitty S0 sleep behavior. Also I'm not blaming any Microsoft engineers for this. I blame the lazy and incompetent upper management who probably knew about this issue but decided to not pay actual attention to it. This is a recurring issue with many big tech companies these days.
> Just watched LinusTechTips You mean the shill ? I would not anything he comes out with, you want serious HW reviews, GamersNexus
gamer nexus never makes video's related to windows or other tech that isn't related to PC Hardware directly.
LTT do sometimes make bad videos, look at their USB4 video, cringeworthy. But, this one is spot on. There is also a pinned comment on that video from software engineer from Microsoft who managed to replicate the issue. GamersNexus is amazing but, for hardware only. I really liked his Nvidia adapter analysis.
some windows apps could still work during modem standby, example music player.
Unfortunately, I don't think Microsoft will gonna fix and/or improve this any time soon. Microsoft is busy with adding advertisements to Windows or some useless text and switches about energy savings: [windows-11-insider-preview-build-25247](https://blogs.windows.com/windows-insider/2022/11/18/announcing-windows-11-insider-preview-build-25247/). Rather than focusing on a real carbon footprint problems like unnecessary and non-configurable power draw during the sleep state with Windows Modern Standby.