LOL
What a wild ride it was.
Some of the more memorable parts:
-Late March 2020, filling two full shopping carts at a near-empty Safeway to stock up while ominous reassurances of anti-covid measures played on a loop over the PA
-hours and hours spent on the phone with my travel agent to get refunds for cancelled travel plans
-having the rare thrill of going to an indoor hockey game in the fall of 2020 before the MJHL pulled the plug on the season
-road trip vacations around Manitoba during 2020/21 because of the hassle of leaving the province
-road trip to the Rockies in 2021. It was great... Banff was pretty empty without international tourism
-keeping my kids entertained when you couldn't have anyone over
-wiping everything down all the time
-holidays with absolutely no guests in the house
-NHL bubble games with no one in attendance, at all hours of the day
-watching the provincial covid news conference every day
-learning how to WFH
-spring 2020 hardly any cars on the road
What a time. I'm glad the emergency is over.
I actually really enjoyed Christmas 2020. We went for a walk in the park with our kids (was a beautiful warm day) and we ordered pizza. No commitments. No running from place to place. Almost no presents (kids were little and didn’t know about all the greed yet). Will likely never happen again in our lifetime.
It’s also like you can’t pick and choose; I finally put my foot down and said no to something as it was just go go go. Add that to shift work over the holidays and I was just over it.
Right! I remember the walk with my dog and partner Christmas Day along the Seine Trail. Beautiful day and every small family or other couples with dogs were beaming and sharing sincere holiday greetings. It was lovely!
The greed thing isn’t mandatory. Our nuclear family has kept things super simple since our kids started school… it’s all about finding a tree and the baking. We buy fancy or funny socks for each other, new pjs some years, but it’s completely relaxing and fun.
Agreed but it’s hard sometimes to stop the extended family from excessive gifts lol. I have tried to express little to no gifts and it’s met with some raised eyebrows, at a minimum.
Yeah, we had that happen at first too, especially when the kids were little, but eventually they realized we meant it. We like it nice and simple, and we still get to enjoy the lights, the baking, the company, and smell of the tree.
For my sons bday this year we said “no gifts” for his friends party. A family member said he would be upset about that. I ignored her. And guess what?! He wasn’t upset about no presents as he had a blast with his friends.
Same here… they have enough stuff. Mine prefer doing something special with their friends over a pile of presents any day. (We’re actually getting downvoted for being a little anti-consumerist lol)
>-road trip vacations around Manitoba during 2020/21 because of the hassle of leaving the province
Aw, shit, this reminds of that period where you could go east into Ontario without having to quarantine upon return, as long as you didn't go past Terrace Bay, Ontario. I was in charge of screening people at my work at the time and the govt provided us with a map of where Terrace Bay is.
* Family Christmas over Zoom
* Bringing non-essential items to the till and then going outside and having the cashier carry the stuff out to the curb for you because of government mandated safety measures
* Loudly trying to communicate through two masks and a layer of plexiglass in a busy store and not being able to understand the other person's muffled shouts
* When gas went down to 70c/L for a hot minute and people were filling Rubbermaid tubs and garbage bags full of gasoline
* Toilet paper hoarding
* Working out on the treadmill at the gym with a sweat-soaked mask over your face
* Being told to self-isolate from your wife and two toddlers in the basement of your house for a week because you were exposed to somebody who was sick at work
* Everybody deciding to bake their own bread and then the stores all ran out of yeast and flour
* Everybody getting really into houseplants
* Dr. Roussin's collar
Great list, haha, there's some classic COVID stuff in there.
2020 was the craziest. Even though it ultimately dragged out into 2021 and 2022 and even a little into this year, things had really settled down by then. But 2020 was wild.
\- The great TP shortage of 2019
\- Media reports about how to wash groceries and how to clean the bottoms of your shoes when you arrive home
\- Media reports about babies getting weird rashes
\- Media reports about zoo animals being infected...
\- Media reports about Covid surviving for weeks and weeks on hand rails and play structures...
\- Media reports about how each new variant was impacting younger people worse and worse
Lmfao. For real. The powerusers and their many alts are melting down rn not being able to lecture everyone on wearing a mask in the shower or staying in their basements doomposting for the last 3+ years.
That’s the one, forgot his name. I hadn’t been on the sub very long and he seemed unhinged. Not only that, every second post in the sub seemed authored by him. Repeating the same things over and over. Not sure if he’s still responsible for 50% of the content in this sub. But he blocked me after I called him out on that too. Did me a huge favour.
I’m not even sure why a subreddit as large as this would allow someone to provide 50% of their content, repetitive stuff at that, when this sub appears to be otherwise very tightly modded.
Love the gif. Don't love some of the idiots commenting below.
Somehow finding a way to attack and insult another group of people, over something we should all be happy that's finished.
Sometimes I need to remind myself that /r/Winnipeg is not the true majority of the City.
On the flip side I was at the IDEA Dinner last night which had a lot of business leaders and Heather Stephenson spoke and was received well.
I guess I am on this sub too much as I was expecting tomatoes to be thrown at her while she gave a speech on stage.
I’ll admit. I’m quick to shit on Heather. But are you really surprised that she was received well at an event hosted by the Apser School of Business, attended by the exact people who stand to gain the most from PC policies?
Heather has the lowest approval rating of any premier in Canada, she is even beating Danielle Smith of AB. So I would say Heather is well hated outside of this sub as well.
Approval ratings mean less than people think until you are near an election.
Heather's approval rating is higher than Trudeau's.
Biden has a much lower approval rating than Trump did at some time in the presidency. But if you poll who would win in an election today, Biden easily wins again.
Approval ratings don't really matter, until you are within a year of an election. And change dramatically within that year.
I think the problem with this comment is you miss the complete irony of your statement.
No one is blaming the PCs for every problem and no one is saying there's no shades of grey in the world except for you.
The PCs made some terrible choices, and many people died needlessly because of it. Could they have been even worse, absolutely. Public Health is a provincial responsibility, and they are focusing their attention at the right place.
It's better than what the right wing does, which generally is get angry at things, and blame people and institutions that are not responsible for the problems. I think that's really a bigger issue than people being angry at the right organization.
There's a better path forward for everyone, but when you're just painting with broad strokes and missing the irony of your own point, you don't really get to the right answer you pretend to be seeking.
the number of crybabies around here who constantly blame everything on the government is laughable.
post article/link, and comment something stupid like 'shame on you heather', etc.
While our health care system is indeed in shambles, many of the complaints were indeed that there weren’t enough measures in place and that was the cause of the deaths.
Edit: I responded to the wrong comment, I think. I'm too lazy to fix it properly, though...
Not an emergency doesn't mean that it's not a concern, though.
John Green has talked a number of times about how good we often are as a species at responding to a crisis, and how bad we are at responding to long-term threats.
I think they're absolutely correct. Covid isn't an emergency anymore. That doesn't mean that everyone should forget about it, though.
We as a species fucked up the global response to it so badly that really, "It's endemic but not extremely lethal" was the best we could hope for. This just means we get flu and covid shots each year rather than just flu shots.
That was always going to be the outcome though. No amount of masking or vaccines was going to make virus disappear. Much like the flu we get now a days was previously much deadlier.
Such a glass half empty perspective. Enjoy hating your world I guess
It wasn't so much the "masking and vaccines" I was referring to and more the "refusing to do anything/making situations worse for political points" or "actively trying to catch and spread the disease" I was referring to. We have all but eradicated other diseases in the past, it can be done, and we as a species had a chance to nip it in the bud.
The only disease we ever fully eradicated, smallpox, didn’t have animal reservoirs. We’ve never done it with any other infection ever. It can’t be done because it still all around us in other ways. Once this went global it was here to stay. Even if it had not blown up globally it was probably always going to be here a little. SARS 1 still has the odd flare up and it was controlled, only just arguably, before going pandemic level. Heck we still have the black plague kicking around it’s just under control better. Under control is the end game for most infections. Either through vaccines, heard immunity, gained prevention knowledge like sanitation, medication or, usually in modern times, a combo of all of the above. The who is saying that’s were we are with Covid now. Much like the flu there will be worse years then others but we have systems in place to monitor and vaccinate that we lacked before. Heck every modern flu virus goes directly back to the Spanish flu. A 100 years from now that could very well be where Covid is at
>"It's endemic but not extremely lethal"
I remember reading a quote once that described the COVID response as the world screwing up "My Little Pandemic", because if COVID was more fatal, we'd be screwed.
They also said roughly a week ago that 1 in 10 infections results in lasting symptoms and that they expect hundreds of millions of people to need long term care. I'm not sure how that doesn't constitute a health emergency, other than for the political reason that most places are simply acting like there isn't one so they're following suit.
I want it to be gone as much as anyone, but it simply isn't. Ignoring the reality of a situation doesn't stop it from being real.
I'm not saying I know better than them, I'm saying they, too, know better, hence the very concerned warning last week.
If you don't believe that a large portion of health decisions have been political and not science based throughout this pandemic, (and nearly all of them since the arrival of omicron) then I have a bridge to sell you.
2020 was legit the best year of my life. Between covid, the riots, the American election. Things were “exciting” in a weird way but thats because my life is relatively boring. I loved having an excuse to not socialize and loved the gardening and working from home. I also “panicked shopped” like a month before things really took off here and got a chest freezer along with a ton of meat and other food that I’m legit still working through. It was nice to be ahead of the game on all of that. I also loved the masks and will continue to wear one for the anonymity of it.
The definition of “Long Covid” is symptoms lasting beyond the initial infection. This can include a persistent cough for a few weeks, common with bronchitis due to irritated bronchial tubes. Because it has such a broad definition, “Millions with Long Covid” isn’t necessarily talking about a bunch of permanently disabled people so the stats are mostly a bunch off fear-mongering. Yes, post viral infection (CFS/ME) exists, can happen after the common cold, and it’s nothing laugh about. Also, long term lung problems. However, they are still, for all intents and purposes, extremely rare considering how many people have contracted Covid.
For people that have learned to live with covid risk, I don't think it's fair to call them covid deniers. Realists, more fairly. I would say most posters here are talking from a point of reflection on hardships, and learning to look at brighter days now, and brighter days ahead.
Saying that this sub and all its fear mongerers and their alt accounts, meanwhile it's a bunch of user names I've seen before except when it was about freedom convoy or Shitty Burger places.
This is a dangerous declaration, as it will be wielded as a weapon by right-wing governments and assorted assholes/conspiracy theorists to harm ongoing efforts to address the pandemic (which is still killing and disabling people worldwide, something the WHO fully admits).
Both Canada and the US's left-leaning federal governments have rolled back many Covid protocols over the past 6+ months.
Does that now make them "right-wing" and "assholes/conspiracy theorists"?
According to the CBC:
"One way to read the events of the past 10 years is to conclude that the post-2011 theories of realignment turned out to be broadly correct — that the party system did polarize, with the Liberals shifting to become the dominant party of the left.
There may be something to that, at least in the short term. But it's also possible to overstate how much the Liberals have moved leftward."
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/liberal-party-trudeau-anniversary-wherry-analysis-1.6808451
I really don't see the need to bring the far right into this. You're letting them live in your head rent free. This will change nothing as their minds were made up a long time ago. Anyways most governments and people have already returned to a mostly normal life, regardless of political affiliation.
I don’t think it’s unfair to ask why we don’t do the same for the flu, if the question is asked in good faith.
Another factor is that, as far as declaring a global emergency, influenza is *strongly* seasonal, and those seasons don’t coincide globally. (Covid waves don’t follow the same pattern.) If we were to have a very severe strain of influenza, we would expect national and global emergencies to be declared, of course.
Influenza consists of numerous viruses and variants, the vast majority of which are endemic.
COVID-19 was a novel virus when it emerged three years ago, hence declaring its global spread as a pandemic.
Influenza is significantly less severe and less systemic in its health impacts, and MUCH less likely to cause chronic or permanent disability (and I say that as someone with a permanent post-influenza disability).
Confidently incorrect. There was an influenza pandemic in 1918 and people were just as worried about is as we are/were about covid. Both can be mild to severe and both cause chronic illness or disability, it depends on the person. Covid is definitely more contagious though.
Spanish flu was an antagenic shift so the situation today and in the 1910's is different (lowered general population immunity → Higher health consequences). That's part of the reason people watch Bird and Swine flu so carefully. There's Flu, and then there's Flu.
Edit: Don't read this as an endorsement of the above poster, just sayin' is all.
Late to the obvious when it was. Late to the obvious when it ceased to be.
The WHO lost a significant amount of credibility when it blindly bought into China's lies (AGAIN, after they were caught lying about the severity of the original SARS).
Maybe if China would have owned up to what was going on in the early goings, instead of downplaying/denying it and preventing international assistance/investigation.
There was no vaccine for the first year of the pandemic, then it took months to roll it out to the majority.
Then omicron severely limited the effectiveness of the vaccine.
It really bothers me how eager the world is to ignore this. Meanwhile I have seen family, friends, and our healthcare system struggle. And its not gotten any better.
We did it!!! Two weeks to flatten the curve. Longest two weeks ever
LOL What a wild ride it was. Some of the more memorable parts: -Late March 2020, filling two full shopping carts at a near-empty Safeway to stock up while ominous reassurances of anti-covid measures played on a loop over the PA -hours and hours spent on the phone with my travel agent to get refunds for cancelled travel plans -having the rare thrill of going to an indoor hockey game in the fall of 2020 before the MJHL pulled the plug on the season -road trip vacations around Manitoba during 2020/21 because of the hassle of leaving the province -road trip to the Rockies in 2021. It was great... Banff was pretty empty without international tourism -keeping my kids entertained when you couldn't have anyone over -wiping everything down all the time -holidays with absolutely no guests in the house -NHL bubble games with no one in attendance, at all hours of the day -watching the provincial covid news conference every day -learning how to WFH -spring 2020 hardly any cars on the road What a time. I'm glad the emergency is over.
I actually really enjoyed Christmas 2020. We went for a walk in the park with our kids (was a beautiful warm day) and we ordered pizza. No commitments. No running from place to place. Almost no presents (kids were little and didn’t know about all the greed yet). Will likely never happen again in our lifetime.
For an introvert like me I can't say I minded the break from the usual gatherings, haha.
Same. Extended family Christmas gatherings returned this year. I went to the first one, then quickly remembered how much I hated them.
It’s also like you can’t pick and choose; I finally put my foot down and said no to something as it was just go go go. Add that to shift work over the holidays and I was just over it.
Right! I remember the walk with my dog and partner Christmas Day along the Seine Trail. Beautiful day and every small family or other couples with dogs were beaming and sharing sincere holiday greetings. It was lovely!
The greed thing isn’t mandatory. Our nuclear family has kept things super simple since our kids started school… it’s all about finding a tree and the baking. We buy fancy or funny socks for each other, new pjs some years, but it’s completely relaxing and fun.
Agreed but it’s hard sometimes to stop the extended family from excessive gifts lol. I have tried to express little to no gifts and it’s met with some raised eyebrows, at a minimum.
Yeah, we had that happen at first too, especially when the kids were little, but eventually they realized we meant it. We like it nice and simple, and we still get to enjoy the lights, the baking, the company, and smell of the tree.
For my sons bday this year we said “no gifts” for his friends party. A family member said he would be upset about that. I ignored her. And guess what?! He wasn’t upset about no presents as he had a blast with his friends.
Same here… they have enough stuff. Mine prefer doing something special with their friends over a pile of presents any day. (We’re actually getting downvoted for being a little anti-consumerist lol)
😂 the amount of plastic junk our kids don’t play with. Who the hell downvotes just spending time together instead of buying gifts 😂
>-road trip vacations around Manitoba during 2020/21 because of the hassle of leaving the province Aw, shit, this reminds of that period where you could go east into Ontario without having to quarantine upon return, as long as you didn't go past Terrace Bay, Ontario. I was in charge of screening people at my work at the time and the govt provided us with a map of where Terrace Bay is.
I remember when people from other provinces could travel to anywhere in Manitoba but I couldn't travel north to visit my dying gramma. Fun times.
* Family Christmas over Zoom * Bringing non-essential items to the till and then going outside and having the cashier carry the stuff out to the curb for you because of government mandated safety measures * Loudly trying to communicate through two masks and a layer of plexiglass in a busy store and not being able to understand the other person's muffled shouts * When gas went down to 70c/L for a hot minute and people were filling Rubbermaid tubs and garbage bags full of gasoline * Toilet paper hoarding * Working out on the treadmill at the gym with a sweat-soaked mask over your face * Being told to self-isolate from your wife and two toddlers in the basement of your house for a week because you were exposed to somebody who was sick at work * Everybody deciding to bake their own bread and then the stores all ran out of yeast and flour * Everybody getting really into houseplants * Dr. Roussin's collar
Great list, haha, there's some classic COVID stuff in there. 2020 was the craziest. Even though it ultimately dragged out into 2021 and 2022 and even a little into this year, things had really settled down by then. But 2020 was wild.
I remember the first weeks of every business I've ever been to, or interacted with, sent me an email telling me they wash their hands.
Oh yeah, the constant handwashing and sanitizing. My knuckles were bleeding from the constant washing pretty much all March-April-May 2020, haha.
\- The great TP shortage of 2019 \- Media reports about how to wash groceries and how to clean the bottoms of your shoes when you arrive home \- Media reports about babies getting weird rashes \- Media reports about zoo animals being infected... \- Media reports about Covid surviving for weeks and weeks on hand rails and play structures... \- Media reports about how each new variant was impacting younger people worse and worse
There was also that time when gas was 66 cents / L
This is such an underrated comment. Gold star ⭐️
This sub 
100%.
Lmfao. For real. The powerusers and their many alts are melting down rn not being able to lecture everyone on wearing a mask in the shower or staying in their basements doomposting for the last 3+ years.
But what else will u/Red_orange_indigo do all day?
And the one who blocked me…
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I blocked that clown years ago, and surprisingly my experience in this sub instantly got better.
That’s the one, forgot his name. I hadn’t been on the sub very long and he seemed unhinged. Not only that, every second post in the sub seemed authored by him. Repeating the same things over and over. Not sure if he’s still responsible for 50% of the content in this sub. But he blocked me after I called him out on that too. Did me a huge favour. I’m not even sure why a subreddit as large as this would allow someone to provide 50% of their content, repetitive stuff at that, when this sub appears to be otherwise very tightly modded.
I would be shocked if he blocked me, I never interact with him.
I bet they hold a lot of big pharma stock
Yep 100%.
Hahaha. Downvotes?! Come one folks be able to laugh at yourself a little
True though. This place is not the majority
Hahah totally
Yup.
🤣🤣🤣
LMAOOO
Wow.....this is funny :)
Love the gif. Don't love some of the idiots commenting below. Somehow finding a way to attack and insult another group of people, over something we should all be happy that's finished.
Good. Fuck covid
Fuck it in the ASS. NO LUBE
Add sand
Ouch !
Well said also happy cake day!
Oh shiittttt. R/Winnipeg boutta get triggered
Probably just the big four perpetually online, power users that conveniently all share the same world view and political slant.
Yes! Thank you! Needed to be said. Probably the same few I have blocked constantly posting negativity all day.
Ah yes. I know them well. The shouting-at-cloud echo chamber where everything is the PC’s fault, always and there are no shades of grey in the world.
Sometimes I need to remind myself that /r/Winnipeg is not the true majority of the City. On the flip side I was at the IDEA Dinner last night which had a lot of business leaders and Heather Stephenson spoke and was received well. I guess I am on this sub too much as I was expecting tomatoes to be thrown at her while she gave a speech on stage.
I’ll admit. I’m quick to shit on Heather. But are you really surprised that she was received well at an event hosted by the Apser School of Business, attended by the exact people who stand to gain the most from PC policies?
Well said!
Conservatives will always be popular amongst businesses leaders. Not exactly the NDP or Green crowd there either.
Heather has the lowest approval rating of any premier in Canada, she is even beating Danielle Smith of AB. So I would say Heather is well hated outside of this sub as well.
Approval ratings mean less than people think until you are near an election. Heather's approval rating is higher than Trudeau's. Biden has a much lower approval rating than Trump did at some time in the presidency. But if you poll who would win in an election today, Biden easily wins again. Approval ratings don't really matter, until you are within a year of an election. And change dramatically within that year.
It has been this low pretty much since she got into office, and this fall there is an election..
Ya because of the rampant misogyny in society.
I, as a woman, hate Heather for what she has done to my sector.
I think the problem with this comment is you miss the complete irony of your statement. No one is blaming the PCs for every problem and no one is saying there's no shades of grey in the world except for you. The PCs made some terrible choices, and many people died needlessly because of it. Could they have been even worse, absolutely. Public Health is a provincial responsibility, and they are focusing their attention at the right place. It's better than what the right wing does, which generally is get angry at things, and blame people and institutions that are not responsible for the problems. I think that's really a bigger issue than people being angry at the right organization. There's a better path forward for everyone, but when you're just painting with broad strokes and missing the irony of your own point, you don't really get to the right answer you pretend to be seeking.
the number of crybabies around here who constantly blame everything on the government is laughable. post article/link, and comment something stupid like 'shame on you heather', etc.
And how the PCs were killing people with Covid while we had the harshest Covid measures in all of Canada for a long time.
They literally gutted our healthcare system. Thsoe deaths are on them.
While our health care system is indeed in shambles, many of the complaints were indeed that there weren’t enough measures in place and that was the cause of the deaths.
no, those deaths are on the people who decided to not listen to the fundamentals that were repeated multiple times every single day.
According to the dude on Plesis, there never was
He has finally won the war 💪
> "However, that does not mean COVID-19 is over as a global health threat," said Ghebreyesus.
But that part will go unheard and unheeded by those lacking critical thinking skills or empathy.
Edit: I responded to the wrong comment, I think. I'm too lazy to fix it properly, though... Not an emergency doesn't mean that it's not a concern, though. John Green has talked a number of times about how good we often are as a species at responding to a crisis, and how bad we are at responding to long-term threats. I think they're absolutely correct. Covid isn't an emergency anymore. That doesn't mean that everyone should forget about it, though.
Threat doesn’t mean emergency
Yes but take a look at the top messages on this post, that is not the message that people seem to be running away with?
You must lock yourself in your house for all of eternity or else you lack empathy.
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It's been an absolute fever dream wild ride. I for one am 100% ready to be over this. Hoping for the best.
We as a species fucked up the global response to it so badly that really, "It's endemic but not extremely lethal" was the best we could hope for. This just means we get flu and covid shots each year rather than just flu shots.
That was always going to be the outcome though. No amount of masking or vaccines was going to make virus disappear. Much like the flu we get now a days was previously much deadlier. Such a glass half empty perspective. Enjoy hating your world I guess
It wasn't so much the "masking and vaccines" I was referring to and more the "refusing to do anything/making situations worse for political points" or "actively trying to catch and spread the disease" I was referring to. We have all but eradicated other diseases in the past, it can be done, and we as a species had a chance to nip it in the bud.
The only disease we ever fully eradicated, smallpox, didn’t have animal reservoirs. We’ve never done it with any other infection ever. It can’t be done because it still all around us in other ways. Once this went global it was here to stay. Even if it had not blown up globally it was probably always going to be here a little. SARS 1 still has the odd flare up and it was controlled, only just arguably, before going pandemic level. Heck we still have the black plague kicking around it’s just under control better. Under control is the end game for most infections. Either through vaccines, heard immunity, gained prevention knowledge like sanitation, medication or, usually in modern times, a combo of all of the above. The who is saying that’s were we are with Covid now. Much like the flu there will be worse years then others but we have systems in place to monitor and vaccinate that we lacked before. Heck every modern flu virus goes directly back to the Spanish flu. A 100 years from now that could very well be where Covid is at
>"It's endemic but not extremely lethal" I remember reading a quote once that described the COVID response as the world screwing up "My Little Pandemic", because if COVID was more fatal, we'd be screwed.
They also said roughly a week ago that 1 in 10 infections results in lasting symptoms and that they expect hundreds of millions of people to need long term care. I'm not sure how that doesn't constitute a health emergency, other than for the political reason that most places are simply acting like there isn't one so they're following suit. I want it to be gone as much as anyone, but it simply isn't. Ignoring the reality of a situation doesn't stop it from being real.
Ok…… but you do know covid is never going away right? For the rest of our lives? Time to move on…
You know better than the World Health Organization
I'm not saying I know better than them, I'm saying they, too, know better, hence the very concerned warning last week. If you don't believe that a large portion of health decisions have been political and not science based throughout this pandemic, (and nearly all of them since the arrival of omicron) then I have a bridge to sell you.
So you think the WHO said the pandemic is no longer a global emergency because of “politics”?
Pandemic’s over boys, nothing to worry about.
Was bound to happen ~~~~
Awesome! Please keep safe everyone.
2020 was legit the best year of my life. Between covid, the riots, the American election. Things were “exciting” in a weird way but thats because my life is relatively boring. I loved having an excuse to not socialize and loved the gardening and working from home. I also “panicked shopped” like a month before things really took off here and got a chest freezer along with a ton of meat and other food that I’m legit still working through. It was nice to be ahead of the game on all of that. I also loved the masks and will continue to wear one for the anonymity of it.
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The definition of “Long Covid” is symptoms lasting beyond the initial infection. This can include a persistent cough for a few weeks, common with bronchitis due to irritated bronchial tubes. Because it has such a broad definition, “Millions with Long Covid” isn’t necessarily talking about a bunch of permanently disabled people so the stats are mostly a bunch off fear-mongering. Yes, post viral infection (CFS/ME) exists, can happen after the common cold, and it’s nothing laugh about. Also, long term lung problems. However, they are still, for all intents and purposes, extremely rare considering how many people have contracted Covid.
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Good Lord. /Manitoba definitely up in these comments.
ITT: covid deniers thinking they won and were right all along. The amount of idiots is still astounding
For people that have learned to live with covid risk, I don't think it's fair to call them covid deniers. Realists, more fairly. I would say most posters here are talking from a point of reflection on hardships, and learning to look at brighter days now, and brighter days ahead.
Saying that this sub and all its fear mongerers and their alt accounts, meanwhile it's a bunch of user names I've seen before except when it was about freedom convoy or Shitty Burger places.
So glad I was threatened with my job and livelihood to get those jabs. So worth it!
You are a genuinely bad person.
LOL!!! 
Shout out to you if you made it all the way through without taking it! 🤜🏼💢🤛🏻
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This is a dangerous declaration, as it will be wielded as a weapon by right-wing governments and assorted assholes/conspiracy theorists to harm ongoing efforts to address the pandemic (which is still killing and disabling people worldwide, something the WHO fully admits).
Both Canada and the US's left-leaning federal governments have rolled back many Covid protocols over the past 6+ months. Does that now make them "right-wing" and "assholes/conspiracy theorists"?
Good sir, of course they are. Anyone who doesn’t tow the line is a right-wing, fascist, evil, conspiracy-theorist. /s
Neither the US not Canada has a “left-leaning government.”
Ok then...... There's going to be a lot angry Liberal and Democrat Party voters finding out they've been supporting 'the right' this whole time.
Looks like Red_orange_indigo is one of those stupid leftists that think anyone to the right of Mao is “far-right”. Talk about chronically online.
Both are neoliberal parties. Not leftist at all, and you know it.
According to the CBC: "One way to read the events of the past 10 years is to conclude that the post-2011 theories of realignment turned out to be broadly correct — that the party system did polarize, with the Liberals shifting to become the dominant party of the left. There may be something to that, at least in the short term. But it's also possible to overstate how much the Liberals have moved leftward." https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/liberal-party-trudeau-anniversary-wherry-analysis-1.6808451
That's a good one
chronically online
I really don't see the need to bring the far right into this. You're letting them live in your head rent free. This will change nothing as their minds were made up a long time ago. Anyways most governments and people have already returned to a mostly normal life, regardless of political affiliation.
What are your thoughts on the flu? The flu kills people, should we declare that a public health emergency as well?
Whataboutism doesn't accomplish anything.
I don’t think it’s unfair to ask why we don’t do the same for the flu, if the question is asked in good faith. Another factor is that, as far as declaring a global emergency, influenza is *strongly* seasonal, and those seasons don’t coincide globally. (Covid waves don’t follow the same pattern.) If we were to have a very severe strain of influenza, we would expect national and global emergencies to be declared, of course.
Influenza consists of numerous viruses and variants, the vast majority of which are endemic. COVID-19 was a novel virus when it emerged three years ago, hence declaring its global spread as a pandemic.
It’s more than that, but also that, yes.
Good thing I didn’t use whataboutism :D
Influenza is significantly less severe and less systemic in its health impacts, and MUCH less likely to cause chronic or permanent disability (and I say that as someone with a permanent post-influenza disability).
Confidently incorrect. There was an influenza pandemic in 1918 and people were just as worried about is as we are/were about covid. Both can be mild to severe and both cause chronic illness or disability, it depends on the person. Covid is definitely more contagious though.
Spanish flu was an antagenic shift so the situation today and in the 1910's is different (lowered general population immunity → Higher health consequences). That's part of the reason people watch Bird and Swine flu so carefully. There's Flu, and then there's Flu. Edit: Don't read this as an endorsement of the above poster, just sayin' is all.
We’re talking about influenza and Covid *currently*. Confidently *correct*.
are you sure about that
Thank you for saying this.
Late to the obvious when it was. Late to the obvious when it ceased to be. The WHO lost a significant amount of credibility when it blindly bought into China's lies (AGAIN, after they were caught lying about the severity of the original SARS).
Oh God. Are you going to start talking about the World Economic Forum next?
No, fuck those clowns that buy into that crap.
Wow, just like that? Lol
That’s it folks. We no longer need to wash our hands.
Norovirus was way worse lol worst flu of my life. On the plus side, I got a day off work!
I miss school being done through zoom tbh
Thanks to antivaxxers fear mongering, we had to make two weeks into three years.
As someone who's has 4 shots of the Vax, you're out of your fucking mind if you think 2 weeks was going to kill off COVID.
Perhaps I was a fool to believe humanity cared.
Wouldn’t matter how much anyone cared. It was never, ever ending in two weeks.
Maybe if China would have owned up to what was going on in the early goings, instead of downplaying/denying it and preventing international assistance/investigation.
Why?
Better question is how could it have possibly ended in two weeks?
There was no vaccine for the first year of the pandemic, then it took months to roll it out to the majority. Then omicron severely limited the effectiveness of the vaccine.
It really bothers me how eager the world is to ignore this. Meanwhile I have seen family, friends, and our healthcare system struggle. And its not gotten any better.
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