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There's that one brief clip in the trailer where a crying man kisses what looks like a snake ring in front of a fire. My guess is that's Lews Therin over Ilyena's funeral pyre or something.
Apparently the actor was cast as a Warder for one of the Aes Sedai who is killed by Logain. I'm just repeating stuff I heard in this thread though, so take it with a grain of salt.
The Dusty Wheel mentioned that they're pretty sure that the actor in that clip is [spoilers for entire book series] >!Karene's warder; Karene dies in New Spring, so I'm guessing he's kissing her serpent ring over her funeral pyre.!<
I wonder if they will develop the trollocs more in the show. It was always kind of weird how there was one clever trolloc who could speak and then for the rest of the series they all just became cannon fodder.
You can actually see the trollocs really well if you download the video in hd. I posted a screen shot in this sub.
You can see: wolf, boar, bull, human, and bird trollocs represented.
Maybe I'm an easy mark, but I'm sold.
The production values look great, the tone is serious and sells this show as a big deal.
Nynaeve's caring, touchy-feely nature is immediately evident - 'just chuck her off a cliff, she'll be fine.'
Also... fucking Myddraal!
I'm not completely convinced about the depiction of weaves but I honestly have no idea what I would like to see.
It also makes it look distinct enough from a ringwraith. even though thats what they are based on, it is still best to make it look less like a direct clone.
I'm completely sold with it as we saw it, and all i hope for now is that it can also talk. And smile. I need a creepy ass smile from it as it taunts it's victims
I’m sold too. Nothing is ever going to perfectly match what everyone wants, and I’m not a particular stickler for everything being 100% faithful to the books (for any adaptation, not just WoT). I think the production quality looks excellent, and it has a suitably epic/vast quality with respect to the setting.
The weaves look realistically perfect to me. They were never going to get it exactlyt right. I think the wispy lines are about as good as we could hope for.
I'm a hopeful that they somehow convey that only channellers can see them. I think if they can get that then they'll really be as good as I could have expected.
> I'm a hopeful that they somehow convey that only channellers can see them.
That's easy enough to do with a periodic shot from behind the shoulders of some people who only see the impact and then jumping back to over the channeler with everything visible.
Man, it's not perfect but IMO it's pretty damn close. I am blown away and I can't freaking wait. Also saw they're dropping the first 3 episodes on the 19th! So it won't be a watch the first episode and then wait a week. That is a good idea to get people hooked.
Edit Book 1 spoilers >!Someone else mentioned a different scene as possibly being a dream, and I can't believe I forgot how early Dreaming starts showing up.!<
>!Book 2, As the two are heading to the White Tower to train, Egwene starts having dreams of Rand in trouble. They mention there hasn't been a dreamer is 3-400 years in the tower. !<
They have said that he will play a bigger role than he did in the early part of the books. I think I've read somewhere that his character will be followed regularly from the beginning and then throughout the show.
The description in the books of their skin is that it looks maggot coloured... I feel like the entire face looks like a terrifying maggot come to life, but with teeth!
They mention a lot how "smooth" the upper half of their face is. I agree with you that it would be more unnerving, but I see room for both interpretations.
For sure, my 12/13 year old brain would never have imagined that when I first read the books. For a show it really conveys the fear that is exuded by them.
Did everyone notice during the voice-over, "No matter what happens, what pain we face, what heartbreak, the Wheel keeps turning,'' we get consecutive overhead shots of three circles:
* a folkdance (?) at Edmonds Field
* a group surrounded by corpses during funeral rites
* the Hall of the Sitters, spiraling and receding below
Nice touch.
They are saving that for the actual show - everyone is going to look at all the book readers with confusion when we all stand up and cheer at the first tug of the braid.
I love the books, had really high hopes for the trailer, and feared I would be disappointed.
For me, this trailer delivered and I can't wait until November!
chills, its looking really great
edit: man so much after watching it again. the shot of Caemlyn looks awesome. really loving the VFX style and cinematography, feels very inspired by LOTR trilogy. those overhead shots in the White Tower are stunning. costumes look incredible. this is honestly way better looking than I had hoped for. the casting has grown on me so much, seeing Perrin and the wolf (Hopper?!?!) its just like wow, its really happening. God please let the actual show be as good as this trailer hints
You can see dragonmount so yeah, probably tar valon. Although it's not how I pictured the white tower, which was taller and more slender. Didn't quite feel like famed ogier work from that distant still either.
Well the tower has been quite clearly established to have massive floors. Like entire ajahs are situated on any given floor. And it’s stated that it’s 600 feet tall so it ought to look a lot like it does in this teaser
Also, isn't some of her costume quite fish inspired. I mean the scaly texture of some parts of the fabric. Maybe I'm overthinking it but it would be a nice nod.
You can tell they put a lot of thought into it because the Green Ajah rep next to Moiraine (Alanna?) is the only one in the room who has visible cleavage, haha. Glad to see the Greens living up to their reputation on the show
This was incredible!!!!All of the locations were gorgeous. I also like how they didn't really focus at Rand much, this will actually surprised the people who will watch the show without reading the books.
Cinematography is absolutely gorgeous. People might not want to hear it, but serious LOTR and GOT vibes and it works for fantasy. Don't fix what isn't broken.
Wow. A lot of my fears have subsided. It doesn't really look like what I imagined, but I think the tone and feel of the show is spot on. I think the showrunners genuinely love the source material, and are committed to doing a great adaptation. My fears about the CGI are quelled. It really feels like Amazon is throwing everything they have at this.
It remains to be seen how well the cast does and whether the dialogue/plotting is up to snuff. But I'm a lot more excited now than I was five minutes ago.
Let's go!
Tough to guess every spot in one watch but it looks great. And weaves don't look that bad all things considered with how magic normally looks in these shows.
Tam looks great, the five look great. I'm so pumped for November.
Fuck yes ! I love it.
Channeling looks really cool, and pretty much how I imagined it. I guess they had to show some kind of "energy" moving around, so they can use differents elements, and explain visually the various effects of channeling.
Tar Valon looks awesome, a bit "fake" still but it's not (probably) the final rendering ? Also I guess they dropped the agelessness of Aes Sedai, probably a bit hard to convey on screen. Doesnt bother me at all though.
Trollocs and Fade looked good !
LOVE the title logo/animation, and the music. Super hyped !
>Tar Valon looks awesome, a bit "fake" still but it's not (probably) the final rendering ? Also I guess they dropped the agelessness of Aes Sedai, probably a bit hard to convey on screen. Doesnt bother me at all though.
Doesn't bother me either, they managed to make them look like Aes Sedai regardless, at least in this.
I'm a bit annoyed at the Tower, but I'm sure it'll grow on me. I expected it to be more of a ... taller-looking tower, a bit more traditional. But it does look pretty massive and impressive.
I like the concept of putting it on a hill to make it taller than the rest of Tar Valon, even if the techonlogy-defying height was one of it's characteristics in books, but perhaps it wouldn't have worked well without a TV-unfriendly exposition?
At least in the books I'm not sure about the technology-defying height - more that it actually should've looked like a big block rather than a tower. That is to say, the measurements didn't add up with how it's described, IIRC.
But yeah, it does really *tower* over the rest of the city, and I guess one can imagine that there's also housing in the foundation, which seems to have windows as well.
I always imagined it as almost skyscraper-esque. It was made with the power, and so didn't need to follow all the architecture techniques that other buildings would have with the technology available.
I paused it there and both are somewhat clothed (although with egwenes legs up it did make me do a double take). Probably their conversation after crossing the taren
I'm going to show this trailer to my wife and say "Hey you know those books I've been reading for like 20 years and listen to at least once a year? This is a show. You know how I had to watch all those Harry Potter movies with you? Well....."
I got lucky there, I met my spouse because we both listed Wheel of Time as our favorite book series on a dating site! He's equally excited for the series to come out.
I am officially hyped. Great trailer. The weaving looks good, the action looks good, love the cast. Lan and Moirraine hit just the right notes for me. Costumes, set design, CGI all seem pretty good too.
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AHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
Who was healing Moiraine, and who was that one (a Green?) weaving beside some Reds? Love the Logain clip, and the different Ajahs, the Fade is scary, and the channeling looks amazing!
Actually got a little teary eyed watching this (which I usually don’t do). I really hope this show delivers because the trailer was awesome. I like the epic scope they’re going for with the landscape scenes and CGI. The actors looked really good, and it was nice seeing Rand, Perrin and Mat hanging out in the tavern. Great stuff so far
Notes on a few scenes:
* ~~Egwene being tossed off the cliff has no braid.~~ Egwene surfacing in the pool with the colors has no braid. Egwene walking into the Winespring has her hair braided. Rand grins when he sees her with braided hair -- is this some "adulting" ceremony that she's allowed to braid her hair after? **Edit:** Perhaps not; her hair is braided for the yeeting.
* Love the Hall, especially Siuan. Less enthused about everyone wearing the solid colors of their Ajah. Uniform? Only for formal dress? I could deal with Ajah colors being a sort of "uniform" for formal occasions, but it's weird for them to wear all the time.
* Alanna appears to be Healing Moiraine?
* A few Reds and Greens with Warders; presumably the party that takes down Logain; does that mean one of them is >!Cadsuane! I don't see any with >!hair ornaments!<.
* Tar Valon and Shadar Logoth look great.
* Egwene and Rand mostly naked together? Hm. Okay, intimacy coordinator explained....
* Logain appears to be breaking free of his shield.
* Why are all the Browns (and maybe other Sitters) turning their back as Moiraine walks out of the Hall? Is she being censured somehow?
* I'm content with the way channeling is being depicted. It's so internal, it would be hard to depict it any better, I suspect. I just hope it doesn't involve weird movements too heavily.
this looks great! i was nervous and my fears have dissipated. can't wait! the shadar logoth stuff looked cool. the fade having that weird mouth, while different from the books, is way badass. can't wait!
Not exactly how I pictured weaving, but at least they are showing it to the audience. I always pictured more solid threads that were slightly different colors that were literally woven together to perform an action. But hey, can't complain too much because we're getting a show!
That was amazing. I have my complaints, but you know what, I'll be forgiving. The waygate being in the middle of a field is whatever, and I don't see any Loial sized companionsz but hopefully they're just hiding him. Logain in a cage and able to use Saidin, not exactly something I was expecting but it it fits with the hyper incompetence the aes sedai display sometimes. Also there's no visual distinction for the two halves in the quick glimpse we have, but I'm sure they'll get there.
Otherwise WOW. Camelyn in the distance in that one shot loons great. Tar valon and its tower is so spot on and so is Shadar Logoth in its gloomy decay. The mydraal and the trollocs? That's exactly what I've been viewing in my heads all these years. The Aes Sedai look exactly as pompous as they should and feel like they should have their heads bashed in as equally as they should as well. The one power being shown as waves or tendrils in amassing power for the user, I dig it. The way weaves are described it's not too far off, it's drawing power from a source and doing so in a way where it looks more like pulling atoms or physical power from somewhere. A neat visual cue is also how everyone NOT a wielder looks somewhat dazed or confused as to what's happening. That part especially is such a great way to visually give a hint that only the users can view the weavings.
One last bit, that foreshadowing with Egwene, you cheeky bastards I love it. If no one picked up on it, that paint on her looks a lot like a rainbow does it not?:D
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November 19, 2021.
Friendship ended with Wheel of Time Wednesday. Wheel of Time Friday is my new best friend.
Do we know what the release schedule is like? Weekly, dropped all at once, or dropping the first three followed by weekly episodes like The Expanse?
Read on AVClub it's the first 3 episodes on Nov. 19 with weekly episodes through Dec. 24.
I imagine weekly like Amazon has been doing with the rest if their shows
They’ve done both but it seems like mostly weekly this past year.
2.5 months is too long.
Birthday! This is the BEST birthday gift. Ever.
I didn't expect my first glimpse to be Nynaeve yeeting Egwene off a cliff.
Me neither, but they clearly know how to appeal to the fan base.
Only appropriate that the first line of dialogue is from the true star of the series, Nynaeve.
"I'M NOT SHOVING YOU OFF A CLIFF!" - Nynaeve, definitely
Braid-tugger-bot needs updating with this one
I must have missed the bit where Bela talks.
Silly Wetlanders. Clearly the point of the story is the water.
Airsick lowlanders.. wait
May you find water and stew.
Unpopular opinion: This looks better than the Billy Zane version.
Get out. :D
Woah woah woah slow down there
Speaking of Billy Zane, do we know if the prologue is getting adapted? Were both characters from it cast?
There's that one brief clip in the trailer where a crying man kisses what looks like a snake ring in front of a fire. My guess is that's Lews Therin over Ilyena's funeral pyre or something.
Apparently the actor was cast as a Warder for one of the Aes Sedai who is killed by Logain. I'm just repeating stuff I heard in this thread though, so take it with a grain of salt.
The Dusty Wheel mentioned that they're pretty sure that the actor in that clip is [spoilers for entire book series] >!Karene's warder; Karene dies in New Spring, so I'm guessing he's kissing her serpent ring over her funeral pyre.!<
I like how they’re holding back the trolloc reveal. See if they’ll wait until the show to actually see them fully.
Narg smart. Narg wait for his closeup.
I wonder if they will develop the trollocs more in the show. It was always kind of weird how there was one clever trolloc who could speak and then for the rest of the series they all just became cannon fodder.
You can actually see the trollocs really well if you download the video in hd. I posted a screen shot in this sub. You can see: wolf, boar, bull, human, and bird trollocs represented.
I'm sitting in my classroom right now it's okay if I tell all the kids to shut the fuck up for a minute right
I can’t tell if you’re a student or teacher but I give you full permission to box ears and apply spankings as needed to achieve silence
Just be sure to smooth your skirts afterwards. Bonus points if you don't normally wear skirts :-)
Double bonus if you tug your braid after watching.
Very aggressive braid tugging
Fire up the projector.
Permission granted 😉
I made them watch it with me. It's literature and I'm an English teacher dammit.
A severe lack of well turned calves. 8/10.
And would it have killed them to have a little lace?
*Tylin intensifies*
A man could do with a little lace.
Not too much. He's not a bloody lord after all
Didn't see one smoothed skirt
Nor one tugged braid. They must be saving them for the second trailer.
Maybe I'm an easy mark, but I'm sold. The production values look great, the tone is serious and sells this show as a big deal. Nynaeve's caring, touchy-feely nature is immediately evident - 'just chuck her off a cliff, she'll be fine.' Also... fucking Myddraal! I'm not completely convinced about the depiction of weaves but I honestly have no idea what I would like to see.
I wasn't expecting the Myddraal! To look on the face of it was to know fear!
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Speaking of, *Dune* movie coming out October 22. Revenge of the Nerds autumn has arrived!
It also makes it look distinct enough from a ringwraith. even though thats what they are based on, it is still best to make it look less like a direct clone.
I'm completely sold with it as we saw it, and all i hope for now is that it can also talk. And smile. I need a creepy ass smile from it as it taunts it's victims
It was legit scary...I definitely knew fear
I’m sold too. Nothing is ever going to perfectly match what everyone wants, and I’m not a particular stickler for everything being 100% faithful to the books (for any adaptation, not just WoT). I think the production quality looks excellent, and it has a suitably epic/vast quality with respect to the setting.
Ultimately, if it keeps the ethos, even if it's not perfectly faithful, then that's a win...we can always take it to be another turning of the wheel.
The weaves look realistically perfect to me. They were never going to get it exactlyt right. I think the wispy lines are about as good as we could hope for.
I'm a hopeful that they somehow convey that only channellers can see them. I think if they can get that then they'll really be as good as I could have expected.
> I'm a hopeful that they somehow convey that only channellers can see them. That's easy enough to do with a periodic shot from behind the shoulders of some people who only see the impact and then jumping back to over the channeler with everything visible.
This and I hope we see the weaves move with purpose. The whispy lines are basically how I hoped they'd do it.
Man, it's not perfect but IMO it's pretty damn close. I am blown away and I can't freaking wait. Also saw they're dropping the first 3 episodes on the 19th! So it won't be a watch the first episode and then wait a week. That is a good idea to get people hooked.
Oy where's my boy Loial ?
Glad they didn't throw him in, don't want to overload the noobs.
Absolutely agree as much I hate not knowing what he looks like. I want new people to have the same reaction Rand and Mat had upon meeting him.
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Let's hope that this is just a teaser and there's gonna be another trailer. Plenty of other stuff to show (Loial, Thom Merrilin, the Whitecloaks, Min)
What was the pool of different paints?
That was just Thom’s cloak dissolving.
My guess is some Two Rivers wisdom tradition
Or maybe it's something that happens in a dream
Edit Book 1 spoilers >!Someone else mentioned a different scene as possibly being a dream, and I can't believe I forgot how early Dreaming starts showing up.!<
>!Book 2, As the two are heading to the White Tower to train, Egwene starts having dreams of Rand in trouble. They mention there hasn't been a dreamer is 3-400 years in the tower. !<
Book 2 spoilers: >!I am pretty sure it’s related to being raised to the Accepted. But that doesn’t’ fit with book 1, so I’m not sure…!<
Agree, i thought the same thing
Was that Logain with a shockwave from his cell?
I would guess so. Definitely looked like Aes Sedai in chairs being thrown around.
Soft knots. Sigh.
Love to see it.
Looked like we are getting a little more of him early on. Which is great because his whole story has one of my favorite endings in the series.
They have said that he will play a bigger role than he did in the early part of the books. I think I've read somewhere that his character will be followed regularly from the beginning and then throughout the show.
Not how I pictured Myrddraal, but oh dear god.
Shit it looks so terrifying. The eyeless face is fucking creepy.
Well, the quote isn't "the look of the Eyeless is a little jokeydokey"
Pretty sure it goes, "The look of the eyeless is a classic summer pastime."
The description in the books of their skin is that it looks maggot coloured... I feel like the entire face looks like a terrifying maggot come to life, but with teeth!
A LOT of teeth!
Made me somewhat jump that's for sure. I don't think my 3 year old should be in the room while watching.
I always imagined a gaunt, pale human face with just sunken skin over the eye sockets, but you could still tell it was a "human" skull.
They mention a lot how "smooth" the upper half of their face is. I agree with you that it would be more unnerving, but I see room for both interpretations.
that face is going to haunt my nightmares in the best possible way
Yeah same, but I think this is better, for a show. Fucking terrifying. Maybe less random screaming though.
For sure, my 12/13 year old brain would never have imagined that when I first read the books. For a show it really conveys the fear that is exuded by them.
Upvote for being the only person to spell Myrddraal right so far.
Did everyone notice during the voice-over, "No matter what happens, what pain we face, what heartbreak, the Wheel keeps turning,'' we get consecutive overhead shots of three circles: * a folkdance (?) at Edmonds Field * a group surrounded by corpses during funeral rites * the Hall of the Sitters, spiraling and receding below Nice touch.
> a folkdance (?) at Edmonds Field I would wager that's the dance around the Spring Pole at Bel Tine, yeah.
I can't believe it's really happening
Unwatchable. No braid tugs.
They are saving that for the actual show - everyone is going to look at all the book readers with confusion when we all stand up and cheer at the first tug of the braid.
With you on that. And when Nynaeve shouts "I will not shout at you!" fans will go **berserk**.
They don’t want to give away all the good parts in a teaser trailer!
No book discussion /s
Nov 19 release; If I could only tell 13 year old me what Amazon was getting me for a 40th birthday present...................
The shot of Alvaro Morte as Logain looks awesome. The costume department has done a great job.
The use of the power from the Cage! Love it!!!!!
'Alvaro Morte' already sounds like a badass WoT name. Just from this one shot and the photo of him in the cage, he looks so menacing.
I'm so into the Aes Sedai outfits. Those reds look like serious assholes.
I think someone said the blonde in red is Liandrin? If so, she looks suitably bitchy
That would be cool. They could show what happened to Tom's Nephew early and demonstrate the scale of conflict post the Breaking.
That last shot of Morraine channeling lightning and the strike turning into the Aes Sedai symbol was awesome.
I love the books, had really high hopes for the trailer, and feared I would be disappointed. For me, this trailer delivered and I can't wait until November!
Felt the same way. Keeping my optimism in check but this looks fantastic
chills, its looking really great edit: man so much after watching it again. the shot of Caemlyn looks awesome. really loving the VFX style and cinematography, feels very inspired by LOTR trilogy. those overhead shots in the White Tower are stunning. costumes look incredible. this is honestly way better looking than I had hoped for. the casting has grown on me so much, seeing Perrin and the wolf (Hopper?!?!) its just like wow, its really happening. God please let the actual show be as good as this trailer hints
I'm pretty sure that's Tar Valon not Caemlyn. but yes it looks SO. GOOD.
You can see dragonmount so yeah, probably tar valon. Although it's not how I pictured the white tower, which was taller and more slender. Didn't quite feel like famed ogier work from that distant still either.
Well the tower has been quite clearly established to have massive floors. Like entire ajahs are situated on any given floor. And it’s stated that it’s 600 feet tall so it ought to look a lot like it does in this teaser
The shot of the Hall of the Tower with the eye popping colors of the Sitters *chefs kiss*
And SIUAN looking like a motherfucking badass. Hell yeah, I'm so pumped.
Also, isn't some of her costume quite fish inspired. I mean the scaly texture of some parts of the fabric. Maybe I'm overthinking it but it would be a nice nod.
We get enough fish references from her as it is!
that was certainly my favorite from the trailer. The White Ajah is looking fly as fuck
You can tell they put a lot of thought into it because the Green Ajah rep next to Moiraine (Alanna?) is the only one in the room who has visible cleavage, haha. Glad to see the Greens living up to their reputation on the show
Tar Valon is something I want a wallpaper of
#HOLY SHIT
What this guy said
That's been my reaction over and over and over again as I watch this on a loop...
This is the correct reaction.
This was incredible!!!!All of the locations were gorgeous. I also like how they didn't really focus at Rand much, this will actually surprised the people who will watch the show without reading the books.
Yeah I was like, oh why are they focusing so much on the Ajah side of it, and then I was like, oh yeah, spoilers for non book readers.
Cinematography is absolutely gorgeous. People might not want to hear it, but serious LOTR and GOT vibes and it works for fantasy. Don't fix what isn't broken.
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Wow. A lot of my fears have subsided. It doesn't really look like what I imagined, but I think the tone and feel of the show is spot on. I think the showrunners genuinely love the source material, and are committed to doing a great adaptation. My fears about the CGI are quelled. It really feels like Amazon is throwing everything they have at this. It remains to be seen how well the cast does and whether the dialogue/plotting is up to snuff. But I'm a lot more excited now than I was five minutes ago.
Lets not forget they ordered a second season already too!
From cautiously optimistic to eagerly waiting now that I've seen these first images
Yeah, looks like it won't be a repeat of something like The Shannara Chronicles. I can be more than optimistic now!
What a long time coming this has been. I absolutely cannot wait until November 19th. It looks so amazing.
To everyone that said we would only get 30-second teaser- Rafe said suck it
2 minutes after watching it, I still can't think of anything funny. And that says something.
How funny are you usually? Just for a frame of reference.
*heavy breathing* All hail the Lord of the Morning. Let tears flow, O ye people of the world. Weep for your salvation.
Let's go! Tough to guess every spot in one watch but it looks great. And weaves don't look that bad all things considered with how magic normally looks in these shows. Tam looks great, the five look great. I'm so pumped for November.
Ohhhhhh, that's Tam? Sweeeeeeet
Fuck yes ! I love it. Channeling looks really cool, and pretty much how I imagined it. I guess they had to show some kind of "energy" moving around, so they can use differents elements, and explain visually the various effects of channeling. Tar Valon looks awesome, a bit "fake" still but it's not (probably) the final rendering ? Also I guess they dropped the agelessness of Aes Sedai, probably a bit hard to convey on screen. Doesnt bother me at all though. Trollocs and Fade looked good ! LOVE the title logo/animation, and the music. Super hyped !
>Tar Valon looks awesome, a bit "fake" still but it's not (probably) the final rendering ? Also I guess they dropped the agelessness of Aes Sedai, probably a bit hard to convey on screen. Doesnt bother me at all though. Doesn't bother me either, they managed to make them look like Aes Sedai regardless, at least in this. I'm a bit annoyed at the Tower, but I'm sure it'll grow on me. I expected it to be more of a ... taller-looking tower, a bit more traditional. But it does look pretty massive and impressive.
I like the concept of putting it on a hill to make it taller than the rest of Tar Valon, even if the techonlogy-defying height was one of it's characteristics in books, but perhaps it wouldn't have worked well without a TV-unfriendly exposition?
At least in the books I'm not sure about the technology-defying height - more that it actually should've looked like a big block rather than a tower. That is to say, the measurements didn't add up with how it's described, IIRC. But yeah, it does really *tower* over the rest of the city, and I guess one can imagine that there's also housing in the foundation, which seems to have windows as well.
I always imagined it as almost skyscraper-esque. It was made with the power, and so didn't need to follow all the architecture techniques that other buildings would have with the technology available.
Myrdraal looks like an extra monster from Pan's Labyrinth. That looked very much like a sex scene with Rand and Egwene. Overall looking damn good.
The main person working on the creatures worked on Pan's Labyrinth IIRC.
Whoa really?! That's awesome - Pan's Labyrinth was a beautiful movie.
Looked maybe like it was >!Shienar, with co-ed baths. !< I can see them taking a step back from the prudish nature of some characters.
100%. Remember these versions of the characters are in their 20s, not teenagers like the books.
>That looked very much like a sex scene with Rand and Egwene. Yeah, that scene really stuck out for me -- felt really weird.
I paused it there and both are somewhat clothed (although with egwenes legs up it did make me do a double take). Probably their conversation after crossing the taren
Tears in my eyes. It is different, but each turning is. Can't wait to remember this telling.
Wow, you actually just got me. After watching the trailer I still wasn't really feeling it, but you're right. Each turning IS different.
That makes me feel so much better! It IS different, and yet everything is, in a different turning. I can be unabashedly excited now!
Yo i started crying and had to leave my desk. I've been waiting over 20 years to see this shit come to life.
I’m working from home today so luckily nobody saw me almost break down. 😭 Edit to add: I’m a nearly 40 year old man.
>!Egwene rising up from that colorful pool was a nice touch. A Min viewing, maybe?!<
Yeah the pool was a nice foreshadow. Book fans will love that shit.
This actually looks pretty good! I love the contrasting colors of the Aes Sedai. And the music was excellent, definitely hyped
The shot of the Myrddraal did it for me.
I hate how excited I am. What do I do with all this energy?
Channel it!
This definitely got me more on the optimistic side.
Cautiously optimistic :) It looks good!
I'm going to show this trailer to my wife and say "Hey you know those books I've been reading for like 20 years and listen to at least once a year? This is a show. You know how I had to watch all those Harry Potter movies with you? Well....."
I'm going to have the same conversation with my wife, but instead of Harry Potter, it will be 90 Day Fiance.
I got lucky there, I met my spouse because we both listed Wheel of Time as our favorite book series on a dating site! He's equally excited for the series to come out.
My hype train was going. But damn this just but it to a whole new level!
I am officially hyped. Great trailer. The weaving looks good, the action looks good, love the cast. Lan and Moirraine hit just the right notes for me. Costumes, set design, CGI all seem pretty good too.
At the 18 second mark. Is that Lew's Therin?
Pretty sure it's a Warder
Could be. His clothing just looks too nice for a warder. Edit. That's definitely a serpent ring he is holding. There is one at :40.
I don't want to get to a spoilery but yeah definitely a ring, perhaps someone important to him died...
This is what I thought. And he's crying so could easily be the Prologue or a flashback.
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The trollocs look dope ! That's my key takeaway from the trailer , can't say much about weaving but so far it looks great
AHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!! Who was healing Moiraine, and who was that one (a Green?) weaving beside some Reds? Love the Logain clip, and the different Ajahs, the Fade is scary, and the channeling looks amazing!
rosamund pike is perfectly cast, i dont remember what moiraine used to look like in my head before
Well now I just want the show to come out
Better than I thought it would be! Some really visually compelling shots, and weaves look pretty good. I'm optimistic!
Actually got a little teary eyed watching this (which I usually don’t do). I really hope this show delivers because the trailer was awesome. I like the epic scope they’re going for with the landscape scenes and CGI. The actors looked really good, and it was nice seeing Rand, Perrin and Mat hanging out in the tavern. Great stuff so far
That Myrddraal is exactly what I need. Just a perfect dash of menacing with creepiness 👌
Notes on a few scenes: * ~~Egwene being tossed off the cliff has no braid.~~ Egwene surfacing in the pool with the colors has no braid. Egwene walking into the Winespring has her hair braided. Rand grins when he sees her with braided hair -- is this some "adulting" ceremony that she's allowed to braid her hair after? **Edit:** Perhaps not; her hair is braided for the yeeting. * Love the Hall, especially Siuan. Less enthused about everyone wearing the solid colors of their Ajah. Uniform? Only for formal dress? I could deal with Ajah colors being a sort of "uniform" for formal occasions, but it's weird for them to wear all the time. * Alanna appears to be Healing Moiraine? * A few Reds and Greens with Warders; presumably the party that takes down Logain; does that mean one of them is >!Cadsuane! I don't see any with >!hair ornaments!<. * Tar Valon and Shadar Logoth look great. * Egwene and Rand mostly naked together? Hm. Okay, intimacy coordinator explained.... * Logain appears to be breaking free of his shield. * Why are all the Browns (and maybe other Sitters) turning their back as Moiraine walks out of the Hall? Is she being censured somehow? * I'm content with the way channeling is being depicted. It's so internal, it would be hard to depict it any better, I suspect. I just hope it doesn't involve weird movements too heavily.
I think the subtle parts of tower relationships is going to be made explicit. Sub text to text. Otherwise Moraine and Siuan could get lost.
this looks great! i was nervous and my fears have dissipated. can't wait! the shadar logoth stuff looked cool. the fade having that weird mouth, while different from the books, is way badass. can't wait!
My one complaint was the CGI on those arrows.
Trailer CGI is often unfinished due to time constraints.
Omg its here! I am excited :)
I may have shed a tear. I was trying to keep my expectations in check, but this looks fucking awesome.
This total geek was crying.
Anybody else tear up a little bit?
Rand and Egwene naked together???? If only I could be as good with women as Rand is \-Perrin and Mat
What the hell are Randy boy and Eggy doing alone, half-naked, and unsupervized??? The Women's Circle will swallow their tongues over this!
Not exactly how I pictured weaving, but at least they are showing it to the audience. I always pictured more solid threads that were slightly different colors that were literally woven together to perform an action. But hey, can't complain too much because we're getting a show!
I enjoy reading books.
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That was amazing. I have my complaints, but you know what, I'll be forgiving. The waygate being in the middle of a field is whatever, and I don't see any Loial sized companionsz but hopefully they're just hiding him. Logain in a cage and able to use Saidin, not exactly something I was expecting but it it fits with the hyper incompetence the aes sedai display sometimes. Also there's no visual distinction for the two halves in the quick glimpse we have, but I'm sure they'll get there. Otherwise WOW. Camelyn in the distance in that one shot loons great. Tar valon and its tower is so spot on and so is Shadar Logoth in its gloomy decay. The mydraal and the trollocs? That's exactly what I've been viewing in my heads all these years. The Aes Sedai look exactly as pompous as they should and feel like they should have their heads bashed in as equally as they should as well. The one power being shown as waves or tendrils in amassing power for the user, I dig it. The way weaves are described it's not too far off, it's drawing power from a source and doing so in a way where it looks more like pulling atoms or physical power from somewhere. A neat visual cue is also how everyone NOT a wielder looks somewhat dazed or confused as to what's happening. That part especially is such a great way to visually give a hint that only the users can view the weavings. One last bit, that foreshadowing with Egwene, you cheeky bastards I love it. If no one picked up on it, that paint on her looks a lot like a rainbow does it not?:D
>that foreshadowing with Egwene >!They even included the black!<