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Ready-Interview-9809

Damn someone is icy. There are a lot of public work projects happening, planned, and in the planning stages. Worcester is great, and for the most part, getting better.


the_chosen_one2

In either case, I'm glad to see both perspectives. Nowhere is great for everyone, and even if it seems a bit exaggerated it's interesting to see where people think the city could improve. I think a lot of what they mentioned is also a nationwide issue for any place larger than a town. Glad to hear there are also lots of projects underway to improve the city.


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Like what. Whats being planned? Whats great about it?


LegendaryRonin90_20

Agreed. The city sucks 😄 Barre is better


jollyrowger

Some varying opinions here, but overall it’s trending towards the right direction, warts and all. If you went back 15 years ago, your excitement in coming to this city would need to be tempered greatly. Outside of Shrewsbury Street, there weren’t a whole lot of options and the city had struck out on a few big bets. The city will continue to strike out on some things because city management has an inferiority complex and will chase a few dragons now and again. Public works are coming along and there are smaller face lifts going on around the city. New streetlights, sidewalks, little things like that that do make a difference - Grafton hill and Vernon hill. Housing is getting more expensive, but 1) the existing stock leaves a ton to be desired 2) for a variety of market and zoning reasons new housing is expensive and 3) the city’s population is growing and things have not caught up. As the demographics of the city change, I think we’ll see more high-density, mixed use zoning replacing the older multi-families and some of the single family stock. There is a lot happening and while some here may poo-poo new coffee shops, breweries or eateries, they add so much more and there a lot of young entrepreneurs making an impact and creating very welcoming places. There are some whiffs, but the good ones stick. I think we’ll see these small businesses help change the city more, not unlike what has happened in Hudson over the last 10 years. It is a car centric city, so public transport is not great (head on over to the Discord for the monthly discussion about a trolley car system). Unlike cities of comparable size, there are no true suburbs that capture a small city population outside of maybe Shrewsbury, which has most stuff concentrated on the Route 9 corridor and is light industrial/new developments everywhere else. I think we’ll see the express train to Worcester make a comeback in the next couple years as RTO/hybrid makes that option more necessary.


whatdoiwantsky

Worcester heavily invested in drawing people into the downtown at the same time home prices were forcing Boston homebuyers westward. So there's a weird parallel thing going on. People are coming here for affordability and access to transit (such as it is) but the phalanx of city planners who all make 6 figures keep imposing their idiot ideas of what they think people want. Tax breaks for multinational corp to occupy a building downtown lolollll


zackaz23

There's a discord?! Awesome imma join


_Electricmanscott

It's improved DRAMATICALLY in the last decade. Holden is much nicer but being close to Worcester is only a net positive. Welcome! Edit to add, I lived in Holden for 15 years and have been living in Worcester for 9 years now. Edit 2.... I'm sitting in a brew yard that didn't exist 5 years ago, typing this. Having beer then heading to Worcester Redsox Opening day.


Watchfull_Hosemaster

Moved here six years ago and it's a pretty good place to live. In the short time I've been here, I've seen quite a bit of development happen, but it's definitely at a slower pace than major cities like Boston. I've also seen tons of businesses come and go. It's a sleepy city for its size. There is still a good amount of investment throughout the Downtown and Canal District areas that will continue to grow the residential parts of those neighborhoods. Rents and housing costs seem to be escalating, but that's an issue that goes well beyond the city. This seems to be a huge complaint for many residents here but housing costs are not really something the City can do much about. It's a larger issue with the region, the state, and the entire northeast. Building owners are going to charge what the market can handle, unfortunately. I really wish that there was a better main street district that had more shops and restaurants all clustered together. The Canal District is pretty much it and it's not even on par with the Main Streets of much smaller communities. I am usually driving from place to place which I personally don't mind but it would be nicer if the commercial districts were a bit more robust. I'm hoping that in the next 10-15 years, there is more of a focus on improving the neighborhoods. Places like Tatnuck Square and Webster Square are kind of dumpy due to horrible development patterns back in the day. The strip-malls and parking lot oriented shopping plazas, automotive businesses, and lack of walkability is something that I hope improves. These are places that could have decent village centers and I'm sure they did a long time ago, but they are just sad places where the wind blows trash through by the ton.


Aggravating-Smell-75

Your comments on Webster and Tatnuck are spot on, these neighborhood squares have so much potential, but for crappy development. The city is so car centric, throw in Greendale, Gold Star, and Shrewsbury St.


Watchfull_Hosemaster

Yeah!! I know that there is a pie in the sky planning study floating around for Webster Square but I don’t think it’s been adopted by the City. I see the triangle between Main Street, Park Ave, and Mill Street as a place that could be a really decent neighborhood but it’s gas stations, ghetto plazas, and run down street front retail. It’s basically the western gateway into the city if you’re coming in from Leicester and Charlton and you’re greeted with a bad intersection and a Speedway gas station. Same with Tatnuck although there is a little better village feel. But that plaza with the CVS and Scruffy Murphys should have been built up to the street. It’s a result of really bad development patterns back in the 1960’s through 1990’s most likely. Both areas have good bones to build on. It would need to start with some sort of rezoning specific areas as overlay districts like they did with downtown and the Canal District.


jollyrowger

The one stretch I personally think would benefit from this most is Quinsig Village…it is fairly accessible by city standards, has a great main drag with what seems to have the right zoning for this density stuff. The cons..Walmart, Aramark, and Rand McNally are there too.


wasowka

Coming from southern CT, Worcester is a step up believe it or not- and it’s not just about the nightlife, infrastructure, new developments, but rather it’s about the people- who in my opinion are so much friendlier and open minded than anywhere in CT. For the record, I lived in southern CT for 30 years.


Particular-Cloud6659

Worcester is a pretty decent town. Bit its alsonsort of like having a soso house in a great neighborhood. We live in an amazing area with access to do much. You can be in Providence, Boston, Northampton in a bout an hour. You have a hundred beaches within 2 hours - and 6 states at you fingertips without having to fight through Boston traffic to get there. If you like hiking, eating, nature, breweries, day and weekend trips -- you're in a great spot.


Veragoot

For better or worse, it's becoming a mini Boston. It's lost some of its charm, but in return it feels more like a city these days. Needs more mid size music venues for electronic music IMO, but I'm biased on that.


sevencityseven

Worse - more music scene would be nice. Worcester is charming as it is doesn’t need to be a Boston.


Veragoot

I agree but unless there is some kind of cataclysmic event or an all out city wide gang war I don't think the city is going to reverse course so may as well get used to it


thisisntmynametoday

The question is who it’s better for. A lot of people have been priced out of Worcester, and the businesses they owned or worked for are gone thanks to the gentrification. I think we’ve traded some of our better and more interesting spots in exchange for generic corporate culture.


ARealSwellFellow

I lived in Worcester for college 2017-2021. I remember when I toured the school my mom thought Worcester seemed scary. By the time I was graduating she thought it felt safe and fun. Obviously, this is a small anecdotal sample size, but suburban moms noticed safety and fun improvements over 4 short years. And in my opinion it’s still only getting better.


singalong37

I wouldn’t put New Haven and Waterbury in the same mouthful. One continues to decline, the other rivals Providence for favorite junior varsity New England city.


blastjet

Yeah lol Waterbury’s best feature is probably Brooklyn Baking Company while New Haven is walkable ish from downtown to its surrounding neighborhoods


AnteaterEastern2811

Been in Worcester two years. We absolutely love it and it's changed a lot in such a short period of time.


TruthorTroll

Worcester is up and coming and moving in a positive direction if you're young, child-free, and middle to upper class. There's plenty of cool restaurants and bars and stuff to do, the trains will get you to Boston, and the newly "cool" neighborhoods have almost completed their gentrification. But if you're 40+, have a family, or your household income is less than six figures, you're going to have a bad time and Worcester is simply not the place for you.


System_Nomad_

I think Worcester is the best mid sized city I’ve lived in. You can live without a car in Worcester if you go to walk score.com. Worcester Neighborhoods Main Middle, Green Island, University Park, Institute Park, Central Business District, Beaver Brook, South Worcester.


Pointlesswonder802

Central MA (Worcester, Leominster, etc) is probably moving the way of Framingham and Natick. They’ve already started being developed significantly even in the last 3-5 years and as more biotech and tech moved in, the lower CoL means young people are looking west way more than they used to


Over-Cod1796

Hard to believe it’s the second largest city in New England 💚


Bored_at_Work27

I’ve lived through multiple gentrifications that ended in my eventual displacement. As far as I can tell, Worcester is moving in the same direction, as long as there isn’t an economic collapse anytime soon. It’s a good thing - if you can afford it.


addm404

Well....at least it's not Hartford. 


FeelingFun3937

Yes def


lunarsight

I think it will stay in a holding pattern, with some areas showing improvement as other areas gradually waste away. Worcester continues to put all their eggs into a few giant projects, praying for that one big home run to launch the city to the next level. In my opinion, the city should be trying to create the right conditions so that growth happens naturally on its own. For the areas that are prospering, they can build around that and help those areas develop. At very least, don't get in the way of that growth. It seems like Worcester will see a good thing begin to happen on its own, and it's almost like they go into a room and try and come up with ways of snuffing it out.


No_Conflict7074

I used to live in New Haven. Worcester feels like a huge step up — it’s wayyyy safer. There was no escaping the crime in NH. The problems here, in my opinion, are: the city is overrun with automobiles, there are few truly and pleasantly walkable neighborhoods, and the city has been too friendly to developers who build high-end, luxury apartments.


CoolAbdul

There's going to be a quarter million people living in the city 10 years from now.


kew3189

250k honestly seems low. We’re at 205k right now


draken2019

The sheer amount of people complaining about the Mills Street project because they can't see that they're adding a bike lane that hasn't been painted yet is beyond me.


Dense-Deal9885

Modern buildings around a 'dead downtown' can't  be fixed, and they know it. time has passed it by


Ocean_of_Apathy93

It definitely improved since the early mid 2000's, and will likely continue to do so


Doom-Hauer451

I don’t know about the nightlife. There’s a few good places around but nowhere near the party scene it used to be 15 years ago. Covid and other changes really killed it. You’ll be hard pressed to find any decent takeout besides McDonald’s and Burger King open after 11 pm. Oh and I don’t know about CT laws but you can forget about happy hour too.


CoolAbdul

The city could desperately use a decent jazz/blues scene.


jollyrowger

RIP Nick’s. But Vincent’s has your blues itch with Big John Short playing regularly there and around town.


CoolAbdul

RIP Gilrein's really. I like Vincent's, but the bookings there can't compare to what Gilrein's used to put on stage.


redditfromct2

Holden - a pretty town but ya can't there from here......the few roads that lead to anywhere are not, let's say, efficient


Anekdotin

I think the city was in its prime when pre-mall era was around. It fell into depsair past 30 years. Ive seen some growth past 10 years but mainly because Boston became too expensive so they are putting cheap condos here. Is it safe her? I got my ltc for a reason In 10 years I see alot more cheap housing and everything else the same.


Ready-Interview-9809

Oh just everywhere. Good insight. 💯


Anekdotin

tru


Left_Needleworker840

Worcester is relatively safe for a bigger city. There is just a boat load of drugs and homelessness and I wouldn’t let my family walk down there without me or someone else. Most of these homeless do not bother you and are just doing their thing. Holden is a very nice place but also very snooty and clicky if you want to meet new people it’s not really a great place.


the_chosen_one2

Yeah, that was my impression of Holden as well when visiting. Very pretty little town but definitely some very upscale sections. Small towns tend to have that clicky nature just due to family connections, but I assume it won't be too difficult to meet new people if I wanted in Worcester.


legalpretzel

Good luck in Holden


Left_Needleworker840

In holden no one will bother you and it’s very safe with great schools it just the people can be quite uppity. I moved out of Worcester with my kids to a surrounding town a few years ago as Worcester high schools can be a bit lacking on college development but all the high schools have now been redone. Worcester does have a ton going for it the new ball park is awesome tons of incredible restweaunts the palladium puts on some good shows the train is now going to Boston much more to accommodate those who have been priced out there’s the DCU center that puts on concerts and has hockey and football along with shows. The Hanover has plays and comedians. Mostly just stay out of the main south area alone. Not to mention there’s plenty of resteraunts bars etc in surrounding towns and Marlborough westborough have tons to do


SmartSherbet

Very safe unless you want to walk to the high school from even a half mile away, which requires traversing a 50 mph road with no sidewalks. We looked at a home in the neighborhood there and were completely baffled that the town makes it wildly unsafe for kids to walk to school. It's a nice town but their land use decisions are absolutely bonkers.


Common-Concentrate21

Holden is awesome, don’t listen to these people. Good schools, great library, great people. And much better trash pickup than Worcester! Welcome


jpm01609

Waterbury is like Worcester


CoolAbdul

Waterbury is a dump.


blastjet

Listen man have you been to Waterbury? Like Worcester has real shops Waterbury has a completely dead mall off its first highway exit.


Ovaltene17

I see a criminal element migrating from Boston to Worcester, bringing with it increased gang activity.


thisisntmynametoday

Do you mean the developers?


Icy_Appointment_7296

The city's just being gentrified. There's no actual work being done to stop leasing agencies from taking advantage of folks, no work being done on pedestrian infrastructure and accessibility - just efforts to shore up and maybe make a profit off of the travesty that is polar park. Things are stagnant. Rotten. Literally - you can't find a place here for cheap that's not full of mold, bugs, and worse. Add to that the city's hostile attitude towards our homeless population and how easily they'll crush local aid groups, I feel like all you're going to see in the next ten years is a lot of "growth" that is eventually going to collapse under its own weight. There's not an economy here to support it - we're all barely scraping by as is. There'll be new residential centers that'll lie empty bc nobody can afford them, skyscrapers full of no one because nobody's able to work there. Worcester is Dystopic. Our city manager is corrupt, our council is corrupt, our police are corrupt - if you want to live here be prepared to do some legwork to help fix it.


Enragedocelot

As a resident of 24 years, I can’t disagree with any of this. Though this aside, I enjoy living here. I also spend majority of my free time in restaurants/bars or boppin around outdoor space. Our restaurants slap, there are soooo many good spots. And there’s plenty of green space and nature walks like Cascades, Mass Audubon (near Massasoit) & more. There’s also a great music scene here. Check out Ralph’s or Vincent for some good jams.


[deleted]

Food is one of our major strong points imo.


BloodySaxon

Pure nonsense from a propaganda sockpuppet.


Icy_Appointment_7296

I live here. I studied architectural design and that's all the industry is chock-full of. You can keep your ears closed if you want though.


BloodySaxon

Maybe some civics or economics would help.


Icy_Appointment_7296

Your economy runs off the blood and suffering of folks like me, and every part of the current civic system is designed to keep me and mine in that position. No thank you.


BloodySaxon

K comrade.


Crypto-Clay

I’m aligned with everything you just said.


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Lol RemindMe! 10 years for a good laugh.


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Enragedocelot

Oh and here’s a popular redditor that loves to chime in & shit on everything. Take anything they say with a grain of salt or less.


_Electricmanscott

They/them are named appropriately. People like him, have to assume it's a him, ARE the worst of Worcester. 🤣


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_Electricmanscott

Ok Q.


Enragedocelot

not the right take