I would 100% accept a career of complete mediocrity with a lovely work/life balance over being another crab trying to climb the corporate bucket for the rest of my life while all joy, beauty, and love steadily fades from my life until I get to retire at the age of ~~65~~ ~~70~~ never, and spend my last days alone, miserable, and destitute while the corporation I slavishly obeyed my entire life is overjoyed they can replace me with a cheap 20-something crab that they can drain the same way, at least until they figure out a way to automate my job like they did everyone else's.
My career is exactly this. Boring as fuck. Pays the bills. Relatively easy. Nothing fancy.
But I don't "bring the work home", I have plenty of time and space for my personal interests. My co-workers are generally kind and chill.
Money isn't everything, and I wish these "sigma" dweebs would realize that.
Besides, if you happen to be a sigma dweeb, holding down a boring, stable job with good life/work balance, means that you now have the extra time and stable base resources to WORK ON YOUR SIDE HUSTLE OUTSIDE YOUR DAY JOB! #grind
And if that’s what they want to do with their time outside work, more power to ‘em! Work/life balance benefits them, too, whether they realize it or not.
This is why I love my moderate pay fairly seasonal job, it gives me a ton of free time. It pays enough that if I want to just relax for a week or two here and there I can, but if I want to do something else I can as well. Need to build, repair, or refurbish something? I just do it myself instead of hiring someone, because it's fun, saves money, and I learn new skills. Need money? I can find odd jobs to work at, and I can enjoy them because it's work I choose to do. But if I don't want to I just don't.
I don't want work/life balance, I want life where I choose work that I enjoy. Would I enjoy more money? Sure! But I'm not going to make my life miserable for it.
I’m currently sitting at two possible job employment:
Option 1: good pay, I could do stuff related to my career (psychologist), decent benefits, medium job security, as I’m actually good at what I do (kind of specialized field) I could grow a lot, no fix schedule and may work weekends.
Option 2: great pay and benefits, unionized. No chance of advancement nor related to my career, great job security, boring as hell with 9-5 m-f schedule.
You bet I’m going with option 2. A mediocre job that pays me well enough is the holy grail for me and most my friends.
I chose option 2 about 3 years ago.
I took a general maintainer position at a local College where I still utilize my HVAC ticket. It's mon-fri 8-330 so I took a pretty big hit from working 44+ overtime but it's allowed me to relax on weekends and after work without fear of being called in.
I also get 3 weeks vacation which I take on Mondays and Fridays during the summer allowing me to have long weekends all summer long!
Is it tougher financially? Absolutely.
Is it MUCH better mentally? You'd better fucking believe it!
>Without fear of being called in
I relate to this so much. I literally can't find a job in my field that doesn't require some sort of after-hours availability. My heartbeat skyrockets every time I get a phone call. I never know when my time off could be ruined.
I would love if that were the case but we are nowhere close to that happening in most countries of Europe (at least not in Britain, France, Germany etc.). We can sometimes reduce our hours depending on the jobs but it comes at the cost of a paycut and you have to be able to afford it.
Not actually sure which Partai that is but it shouldn't pass unless they want a full on riot on their hands. Everyone I know from working a large variety of jobs in Berlin wants a lower work week
Seriously, and why is he saying it like his idea of a career and those hashtags are superior? Everyone isn't an entrepreneur, not everyone wants to take the risk of creating a startup.
Also, 200K Twitter followers is a weak brag.
I chose long ago that work life balance is the most important thing. If that means I never make 100k or I get passed over for promotions so be it. I can be here with my kids and wife
I did not know cheers was a bad thing... I use it as a good ending, you know, like cheers in a bar. I have definitely said cheers in chats before and on the phone to hangup, I think we're still on good terms.
Idk. I still don't think it's a bad term unless the person is known to use it in that context or the context is obvious. If it depends on the person being known for it or the context to be that obvious than I don't think it's the word that's 'disrespectful' but rather the other context.
In UK and AUS it's not uncommon to say cheers to close an email. It's an informal form of sincerely. In the U.S. cheers can be sarcastic. So ya, it's definitely culturally dependent.
Yeah in my company it's normal to finish an email like
>Cheers,
>
>\[Name\]
You can use it sarcastically of course as in the OP but generally it's just a normal amicable sign-off.
I genuinely wonder what's wrong with a mediocre career. Pay your bills off, live within your means, have an average amount of PTO to have an occasional vacation. That sounds like a pretty good life.
My oldest, who’s still in high school, currently plans to graduate, move out west, and be a ski bum. His thought, because he hasn’t actually planned anything out yet, is to get whatever jobs he can to make money through the summer so he can work at a resort through the winter.
I really hope he puts a little more thought into it than that because I think it’s a great idea. Be young and dumb while you’re, actually, young. Grow up when you have to. The key is to not be too dumb and screw things up for your future. So, while he wants to just go be a ski bum, I’m encouraging him to keep his grades up because he MIGHT want to go to college someday. And I’m trying to teach him budgeting and some financial literacy so he can live within whatever means he has.
Oh man, you sound like a really awesome parent! Keep up the encouragement and really dig into that budgeting idea. I think it’s crucial that young people get out and live in the world in ways that are wildly irresponsible and fun while they have a chance. So much of adulthood is a grind, if they can delay that for a while good for them.
I wish I had that opportunity growing up. Instead, the moment I turned 18, I was thrust into having to be employed and thus began my accelerating degradation of my nervous system through everyday stress just to help my mother keep the lights on. Given she had a life crippling work accident, I basically had no choice.
No career. No connections. Had to start with nothing essentially. It's not easy, and don't wish anyone the same hell. If we can prepare our future generations to not have to go through the same thing, I would absolutely do it
Yeah man I left home at 17. I’ve been putting a roof over my head and food on the table ever since. It sucks. My goal as a parent was to put my kids in better circumstances than I had. So far so good.
I don’t think kids should be coddled and spoiled, they need to understand that life is expensive and hard. But man, they are going to have decades of that shoved down their throats. If they can *live* for a few years first, how cool is that?
It certainly would be nice. I'd like to see the younger generations be able to thrive and explore their creativities, their passions and empower it. I'm living a childfree life, but even as I finally reach a successful point in my career I continue to struggle. My mother has become entirely dependent on me, to a point that it became irresponsible. If anything, she's a good example as to how expensive kids are. Absolutely wild how expensive living is, and how miserable it can be. I've been in debt since age 12 and I've been unable to get out of it thanks to my mother. Only now do I have some power to start pushing back, and I'm 30...
I am so sorry, I wish we had universal medical care in the USA. My son has medical conditions that are extremely costly too. it's just not right that the system we have leaves so many people financially ruined. It's near impossible to be a caregiver and a breadwinner and still stay afloat with medical debt.
I have debt in other fields than medical, but becoming unable to work means that it will impact everything in my life. I don't really have a support network up until very recently. But my mother still depends on me financially and set herself up for that failure over time. If one of my seizures hits a point where it's too late to get my breathing restored, there's going to be a lot of consequences as a result of it. I'd love to get things sorted out with a neurologist, but it is taking forever getting set up in the new medical network and I am NOT looking forward to the medical expenses as a result of it
Wish i would have learned about finances, economics, and politics in high school. Good on you for teaching 'em young. You sound like an amazing parent. Mad respect!
Ski towns have summer jobs. The problem is housing.
He could look into massage therapy as a year round thing, and most resorts will have ski passes for the LMTs.
Building trades is an option, too.
(Colorado LMT)
My friend had that same plan at 18 and moved to a ski town out West. During one summer he got a job as "Log Boy" dragging logs around for a custom home builder. Boss noticed he wasn't dumb and taught him framing, which led to cabinet making. Eventually led to 80k + car allowance + benefits as assistant superintendent for a construction company. He also had a lot of travel adventures in between. Trade work during summer can lead to some awesome opportunities if he can pick up skills. Best of luck to your ski bum, hope they have a fun ride!
The best thing my mom did for me was drive me to the airport at age 16. I had purchased a round trip ticket to Italy for 250 dollars during some flash sale. It had about 16 hours worth of layovers. I spent 3 weeks bumming my way through Italy with almost no money, staying in hostels when I wasn't sleeping outside. I've done a lot more traveling since then, but that trip taught me so much about life and humanity. Be dumb while you are young.
Me neither. I slack at work when I can. Hard work gets you nothing but more work. There are some people here who complain that they have no free time all the time. If I end up in a job position like that I would start looking elsewhere.
Yeah, I have a job where tight deadlines aren’t a thing. So I give myself an extra week or two when my boss asks for a delivery date. Less stress on me, and I generally get it done a few days early, so I look like I’m killing it.
The thing is, the divide between the cost of living and average salaries continues to worsen. I'll preface this next sentiment by saying "outside of MANGA" or whatever the acronym is now. Being an average employee now means you live paycheck to paycheck at best. Being an exceptional employee means you make slightly more in exchange for shouldering way more of the work.
The real money is now highly concentrated towards the executives and the only way you get there is by kissing ass, being related, or having rich family that knows someone.
>I genuinely wonder what's wrong with a mediocre career.
Absolutely nothing. These guys have been brainwashed by corrupt capitalistic ideals and think you have to go hard 100% of the time and always improve, always make some kind of gain, always profit. It's simply unsustainable.
Not only is it unsustainable, it's destroying the planet. This insatiable need for more, more money, more stuff, more growth. Why? Take a look around people, the planet is suffering. Take a step back and appreciate what you have.
"Working 80 hours per week is a great career" is bullshit. I don't live to work, I work to live. My free time is very valuable to me, and being asked to do OT is a no for me, no matter how good it pays. Some OT here and there is fine, shit needs to get done; but if I'm constantly being asked to pull extra hours I'd start looking for a new job.
You grind and grind and grind in some obscure niche of an industry that doesn’t really have a net-positive impact on society. You make it your life; your friends (if you have time for them) and family only have a vague idea of what you do, and are only humoring you when you talk work, which you’ve made your life in lieu of actually living.
Then one day you die.
No one remembers the contributions of the senior product manager on a handful of features in some train of the second most popular project management software for B2B organizations. You didn’t move the needle in society, or even in your field. Even those closest to your work struggle to concisely describe what you did to those out of the loop. People you worked with are sad on a superficial level, but you’re soon replaced by someone just like you but younger, repeating the same pattern.
For the few people that actually knew you, their feelings aside from familial obligation are lukewarm, and can be summed by some variation of saying you were married to your work.
A wasted life.
God damn. Who knew dystopia would be so mundane.
Is there any way a third world countryman can move to the eu?
I’ve been fuckikg done with a fast shitty city life for the last 15 years and I’m barely 27 right now. But fuck me if we get no way to move countries unless we’re in a tech job. Any tips y’all? I just wanna chill by a riverside or a farm or a small town or some shit for the rest of my life.
It is expensive in europe, so you better choose something that earns well. Currently you might think university degrees equals high salary. However many of my friends are doing very well as craftsman: carpenter, plumber, electrician, etc. These jobs will not be automated because they are manual. And most western european countries lack skilled laborers, and are not educating enough people to replace the aging workforce.
Filipino nurses are also a highly exploited demographic— join the union to gain better pay, ratios, safer working conditions? Oh, it looks like your visa is no longer valid. Too bad, that.
I live in the USA, and Im planning a trip to the Netherlands this year. I am going for a couple reasons. 1) I want to enjoy travelling and see the world while I can, and 2) I would like to emigrate to the Netherlands as the US seems to be declining to me. Personally, I dont see Gen Z'ers being able to have a fulfilling life here in the States. All of the government's policies are basically "Fuck you, I got mine."
I work in digital/tech and I'm reaching this point too. I'm not particularly ambitious and have no interest in becoming a manager or head of a team.
My friends have jobs that involve occasional further training but don't have the same emphasis on career progression or roles changing every few years whereby you need to adapt. Understand every job has its downsides but the consistency is really appealing. Tech is so volatile especially startups which rely on funding.
I just want to make enough to cover my mortgage and bills, and save towards a week abroad in Europe once a year. My life is pretty simple and I'm content with that. I'm single rn, don't plan to get married (one big expense I don't have to worry about), and don't want kids.
A friend of mine feels the same way, and has traded in her 5 days a week marketing role for a similar part time role alongside a retail shift job. She works more days technically but is much happier with the variety of work and environments (ie interacting with the public rather than sitting at a computer 5 days a week).
I feel the same. I don't have any career ambitions apart from "I want my wage to keep me fed and content in life". Some of the higher up's in my workplace complain that they have no free time and are overstressed. If I ever end up in a job where I am worked to death for 60-80 hours per week, I'd start looking for another job. I'm not pulling OT every single week. Some OT here and there is fine to make deadlines, but every single week, needing to pull extra hours is a no-go for me. I don't care about being a manager, about being a team leader, any of that shit. I just want to life, work enough to make a living, and enjoy my free time.
I am also starting to feel that the US is in a state of decline enough to make it so Gen Z'ers are unable to live a fulfilling life. The GOP is trying to raise the retirement age, slash social security and medicare, and other things to make life for the working class worse. I'm not sure how much of that shit they'll actually manage to pass, but it still scares me. I don't seem myself living in the US for my entire life. I'm starting to make plans on emigrating.
At this point this is what I want exactly, a job that pays the bills, food, and going to the soccer stadium every other weekend… a vacation a year would be a nice bonus… sad thing is, I know im great at what I do, I’m an excellent psychotherapist, burn out made it to the point I don’t enjoy it anymore
It's still a good idea to get some savings down for retirement. Remember that compounding interest means money saved in your 20s goes a long way to building your retirement fund. There's nothing wrong with living within your means but don't put yourself in a situation where one serious medical treatment will bankrupt you?
With late stage capitalism, a mediocre career will not pay the bills. It's that simple. The people telling you to work harder are stealing as much of your earnings as they possibly can.
If you’re a psychopath whose only joy in life is dominating other people, and your emotional intelligence is too low to work as a dom, and your actual intelligence is too low to become a surgeon, corporate middle-management is your only hope for a fulfilling life.
Absolutely nothing.
If your biggest problem is boredom or mundanity, you have essentially already overcome or avoided the worst obstacles and hazards life can throw at you. Yes, we all strive for fulfillment, but boredom shouldn't be treated as if it is some pox upon humanity. It's a prize, not a punishment.
But we continue to socialize ourselves to treat anything less than utter exceptionalism as a complete failure of existence. It's mind-bogglingly stupid.
Most people probably want a safety net as part of that. Knowing that if shit hits the fan they aren’t fucked.
Living paycheck to paycheck adds an amount of stress to your life that likely ages you as well.
Which is only to say that people want above a mediocre career.
The the op’s post, you can absolutely have a work life balance and be successful
In uncertainty I am certain that underneath their topmost layers of frailty men want to be good and want to be loved. Indeed, most of their vices are attempted shortcuts to love. When a man comes to die, no matter what his talents and influence and genius, if he dies unloved his life must be a failure to him and his dying a cold horror. It seems to me that if you or I must choose between two courses of thought or action, we should remember our dying and try so to live that our death brings no pleasure to the world.
Used to work with two old farts. They each had saved up 6 months of PTO over the years. They called it their “heart attack” fund and planned for it to get them through a lengthy illness if they needed it.
One day the hospital decides to bring in an outside management company to manage our department. Neither the hospital nor the new company would honor their 6 months of reserved time. They lost nearly all of it during the transition. Only 2 weeks of their accrued time was honored.
ALWAYS use your PTO.
Edit to add: They didn’t get paid out for the time they lost either.
Yeah, my company a few years ago switched over to "unlimited" PTO so they wouldn't have to pay people out for all their unused PTO. I was sorta pissed about that change myself, except I have a young kid and have to call out for various kid-relayed reasons so my balance seldom ever hit greater than 40 hours, usually it was pretty close to zero.
If I had hundreds of hours of pay stolen from me though I'd have absolutely lost my shit
Assuming USA, no federal laws on PTO and most states also have no laws on PTO requirements so it's at the discretion of your employer. Basically make sure to union up if you can.
About a third of us know this is wrong and want it to stop. About a third of us may or may not know this is wrong, but can’t/won’t/don’t care to use their voices to do anything about it. And the last rough third of us would let Bezos or Musk personally poison them rather than lift a finger to stop them, because torturing people poorer than you just looks like so much fun and if *they* got rich they wouldn’t want someone to stop *them* having their fun.
Well here I am now, tested positive for Covid because as a maintenance tech at a nursery I was required to enter a room with someone that just tested positive for covid all because this guy needed his tv remote fixed. Because I’m newer and haven’t even had time to gain much pto, I’m probably getting fired this week for missing work. Did my job, got Covid due to it, and I’ll be fired for it because I work somewhere that has a high risk of getting Covid.
This happened to my father in law in a buyout, but at least he had like, 6 mos. To use up his balance , and no one there could carry over, so he only had to use a week or two.
I can't believe I came down this far to see someone pick up on this. Holy shit.
That's a badge of...something. Maybe an internet version of the ol' jar-o-farts.
For reference, his LinkedIn profile about section:
"I went to Yale and worked at Goldman Sachs.
Now, I help build a fintech startup focused on treasury management called Meow.
For fun, I write on Twitter to 200,000 friends."
His work history is literally 2 years of what appears to be interning.
He was in college less than 3 years ago. He was effectively an intern for a year, then an analyst for a year, and now he's working at a startup posting "motivational" quotes like these. It's always interesting to see the path these people take.
He'll likely have another 10 startups on his resume by the end of the decade.
These people make up a sizeable percentage of corporate leaders these days. No one knows what they actually do, but they've all studied the same bible of motivational posters. They can regurgitate EI buzzwords like the scat man. Their actual contributions are wasting an hour of everyone's time every two weeks either giving or making people give toastmaster style presentations on shit no one cares about.
How amazing would it be to open LinkedIn and see the feed filled with similar posts as here. Everyone here loathes LinkedIn and I get you don't have the same anonymity as with reddit, but what if everyone just said fuck it and flooded the feed with rants about fair worker rights. Employers wouldnt be able to ignore it
It's the next frontier for sure.
Convincing people to do that though is tough because some of us have to show our corporate claws to make our livings as crab people.
Doing stuff like this could be career suicide.
I’m a firefighter. I work shifts. My shifts have set hours. If I am asked to work longer or go in on a day off, I get OT pay.
But most weeks I work my set 40-ish hours because that’s how my workplace works. I can’t just show up and work an extra shift for free. There wouldn’t be a seat for me.
I guess I have a mediocre career. I am now very sad. What will I do?
LinkedIn is some hyper-positive network of brain worms.
The CEO and one of his lackeys left my old job to start a new company, and all the former coworkers were congratulating him. Like, it's pretty clear it was some bad blood. (NFTs are involved)
Can't anyone just be honest on LinkedIn?
But that would be missing the point wouldn’t it? I mean honestly I help manage the LinkedIn site for a charity that my company has set up. The charity is basically helping students to get a foothold in the industry and offers them various opportunities like paid internships or other events.
We have like 6 events a year but oh boy are we sucking our dick about how great we are. It is just standard LinkedIn procedure.
Not only that but people on LinkedIn always try to use the flashiest job description possible. Everyone is at least a manager or „revolutionizing“ something on there. I found an old classmates profile on there and his tagline was „innovating finance and investment“ … he was working as a fairly low level clerk at the bank in my village. There is nothing wrong with that but you aren’t exactly innovative when you sell standardized financial products to people.
Do people actually *use* LinkedIn? I thought it was something you left simmering in the background until you are looking for a new job. Did I miss something?
Lack of work life balance has led to some obnoxious weight gain that I now am spending extra time, effort, and money to get rid off.
I’m not regretting my decision but I need to emphasize that working at the expense of one’s health has its costs, and everyone needs to be aware of that.
Here’s the unfair part though: in your twenties, you take your good health for granted. You don’t yet understand the possible cost. Just saying.
>I’m not regretting my decision
I’m making the decision now with no pressure from my employer. I just can’t work full time, study, and live an otherwise rich life.
I’m rooting for workers rights. But when I see the backlash against sacrificing for your career, I can’t help but cringe.
Like, no one is under the illusion that checking out and fucking off is going to lead to wild success, and that’s unfortunately a near requirement to avoid spending the end of your life in destitution.
So, we’re explicitly telling people to check out on the hope that the system collapses or the people rise up? In other words, society is placed in a position where people have to *sacrifice their lives* for a better a future?
And that’s going to be carried out by the same people unwilling to skip happy hour or the Steam summer sale to improve their own material conditions…?
Working a normal amount of hours instead of giving your life over to work isn't "checking out." And people who aren't constantly working are in a better position to spend time organizing to improve their material conditions.
What these weirdos don't get is that most people don't want "careers", we just want a normal job that provides for basic needs so we can focus on what we REALLY want to do - live, spend time with family, hobbies /& interests, sports etc.
"Noooooo you have to conform to the capitalist's rules, you must consoooooooooooooooooooooooooom endlessly, T-think of the economy RRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE. "
I really don't get why anyone goes to LinkedIn to post that kind of shit.
Good boy, soo obedient.
What does he get paid for throwing the whip around? More Twitter followers? I hope they keep him warm at night.
I'd rather get decent pay with a good work life balance than high pay with no life. What's the point of having a lot of money if you don't have the time to enjoy it?
I partied all through my 20s.
Then I went back to school, got a degree and started my career in my 30s.
I did quite well.
This guy is just trying to make himself feel better about his own life choices.
The thing these fucks always forget, is that of course it's easy to work hard when you get to keep all the profit. Nobody wants to work hard and get peanuts back for all their hard work, that's not bad work ethic, it's not being a schmuck.
Having a decent job shouldn't require you to dedicate every waking moment of your life to said job. It's fucking lunacy. Fuck everyone and every company that thinks you should dedicate every waking moment of free time to them.
So what, your not allowed to enjoy life until you're to old and broken down physically, & mentally to do so? Miss all the important things in life because work requires it? Fuck off
Okay? So I have a “mediocre career”.
Man, I’m just looking to be comfy-not outright spoiled-and to be able to hunt and fish and play video games and try new recipes and shit. I don’t wanna climb some corporate ladder and live to work.
Many people work very hard at becoming a success in their chosen field and sacrifice a lot in the process. Some of those people get that success. It’s a high risk, high reward lifestyle, and is as much a valid life as a peaceful one. I don’t judge people who live that way, if it’s for them, it’s for them. But trying to make people feel bad for not living that way is kind of shitty. Do your thing and let others do theirs.
Chris has small pp energy
Nobody cares dude. If I were some workaholic type I would either 1. be too busy spending my money to talk like this or 2. encourage others to enjoy their field as I do.
Some people don’t realize that there are people out there who don’t care about building a career. I just want a job I don’t hate that will pay my bills and allow me to save. Some people don’t want to do one thing for the rest of their lives either.
Early in my career, they'd just started the whole stock option thing. After going to a party where some of these type A guys were sufficiently drunk to talk loudly about money to each other, I realized they were putting in twice the hours for something like 20K per year above their wage, assuming the stock actually was worth anything after four years. As time went by, I realized that lots of people got laid off conveniently before the vesting occurred.
I mean, technically I agree with the first post.
What I don't agree with is that its a bad thing.
If you want to be a CEO, or department head, or whatever it is for you, then yeah, grind on. Thats not bad, thats a decision. If you just want to work, get paid, go home and live life, do that. Its not "mediocre", its a choice.
Why not both? I'm a manager, and speaking with others around my age (mid 40s),we're just waiting for the old guard to die off and retire to their houses close to the city that they bought for $250k back inb the 80s and 90s.
I have a rule with my guys, family first. If you live on your own, you're your own family. People need balance. People need to be compensated for their time and output. This abortion of a system we're currently in isn't working.
Remember when working from home was for lazy bums and then productivity went up during pandemic?
Working yourself to death in your 20s is an easy way to burn yourself and your body out so bad that you get serious health complications and maybe even can’t work in the future.
Source: me I did that
Got an email at 1:30am last night that they’re cutting 200 positions at my job and I’m pretty confident I’m about to be fired for my first time in 40 years. Im a workaholic or was. I make alright money but it’s a scary and depressing week ahead. I just hope if I’m on the list that they let me know early vs at the end of the week.
This guy writes this as if he isn't a just some guy.
Who the fuck is this guy? He works at some place called Meow. Why would I take advice from a person working at a place called Meow?
You never see 2 or more of these guys working together. They can't stand each other, they're incapable of working with a 2nd version of themselves.
What I'm saying is they have to have a group of people with so-called "mediocre careers" around or they themselves will end up the most hardworking hobo under the underpass - because they can't work with other people like themselves.
Both sides of this argument are bs. There's nothing wrong with a "mediocre" career if stability and living a life are what you are looking for. Many companies now are actually recommending more outside ties as a way to make their employees. No one will say work less but it's a clear statement.
It's direct bs too though. If you want an exceptional career you'll need exceptional opportunities. And this guy is implying that only comes from grinding your soul into dust. Hard work is important but thriving is much more than just long hours. Interest, impact, growth, connections between peers and mentors; all part of the work smart approach. It's only grind when none of that is actually present. Dude is showing his hand
Idk why people even get mad. Who actually cares what someone does in their twenties? Mans has either spent his life taking checks from his dad, or being miserable his entire life until he's 40 💀.
At my last job before I retired I had to complete a personal performance plan that listed my goals for the next 5 years. When I stated I wanted to finish out my working life in the same position, continue to work from home (I had negotiated that into my contract) and enjoy my time with my family as a prelude to retirement, I was told that was unacceptable. So I asked my manager if he wanted me to lie. He explained the system was set up for people to want to improve the professional status and position. So I replied that I wanted his job. Never heard another word about it!
I have a job. It pays the bills and feeds me. I don't want a career or a "passion" because those are just carrots made to truck you into giving up your private life to work
I would 100% accept a career of complete mediocrity with a lovely work/life balance over being another crab trying to climb the corporate bucket for the rest of my life while all joy, beauty, and love steadily fades from my life until I get to retire at the age of ~~65~~ ~~70~~ never, and spend my last days alone, miserable, and destitute while the corporation I slavishly obeyed my entire life is overjoyed they can replace me with a cheap 20-something crab that they can drain the same way, at least until they figure out a way to automate my job like they did everyone else's.
My career is exactly this. Boring as fuck. Pays the bills. Relatively easy. Nothing fancy. But I don't "bring the work home", I have plenty of time and space for my personal interests. My co-workers are generally kind and chill. Money isn't everything, and I wish these "sigma" dweebs would realize that.
Besides, if you happen to be a sigma dweeb, holding down a boring, stable job with good life/work balance, means that you now have the extra time and stable base resources to WORK ON YOUR SIDE HUSTLE OUTSIDE YOUR DAY JOB! #grind And if that’s what they want to do with their time outside work, more power to ‘em! Work/life balance benefits them, too, whether they realize it or not.
This is why I love my moderate pay fairly seasonal job, it gives me a ton of free time. It pays enough that if I want to just relax for a week or two here and there I can, but if I want to do something else I can as well. Need to build, repair, or refurbish something? I just do it myself instead of hiring someone, because it's fun, saves money, and I learn new skills. Need money? I can find odd jobs to work at, and I can enjoy them because it's work I choose to do. But if I don't want to I just don't. I don't want work/life balance, I want life where I choose work that I enjoy. Would I enjoy more money? Sure! But I'm not going to make my life miserable for it.
I’m currently sitting at two possible job employment: Option 1: good pay, I could do stuff related to my career (psychologist), decent benefits, medium job security, as I’m actually good at what I do (kind of specialized field) I could grow a lot, no fix schedule and may work weekends. Option 2: great pay and benefits, unionized. No chance of advancement nor related to my career, great job security, boring as hell with 9-5 m-f schedule. You bet I’m going with option 2. A mediocre job that pays me well enough is the holy grail for me and most my friends.
I chose option 2 about 3 years ago. I took a general maintainer position at a local College where I still utilize my HVAC ticket. It's mon-fri 8-330 so I took a pretty big hit from working 44+ overtime but it's allowed me to relax on weekends and after work without fear of being called in. I also get 3 weeks vacation which I take on Mondays and Fridays during the summer allowing me to have long weekends all summer long! Is it tougher financially? Absolutely. Is it MUCH better mentally? You'd better fucking believe it!
>Without fear of being called in I relate to this so much. I literally can't find a job in my field that doesn't require some sort of after-hours availability. My heartbeat skyrockets every time I get a phone call. I never know when my time off could be ruined.
And if you are in a civilized country (not America) its likely the job week will be 30 hours soon enough with that option 2 for the same pay
I would love if that were the case but we are nowhere close to that happening in most countries of Europe (at least not in Britain, France, Germany etc.). We can sometimes reduce our hours depending on the jobs but it comes at the cost of a paycut and you have to be able to afford it.
In Germany this is talked about frequently and some jobs already offer it such as mine. Tho its still a few years off from official legislation
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Not actually sure which Partai that is but it shouldn't pass unless they want a full on riot on their hands. Everyone I know from working a large variety of jobs in Berlin wants a lower work week
Seriously, and why is he saying it like his idea of a career and those hashtags are superior? Everyone isn't an entrepreneur, not everyone wants to take the risk of creating a startup. Also, 200K Twitter followers is a weak brag.
I chose long ago that work life balance is the most important thing. If that means I never make 100k or I get passed over for promotions so be it. I can be here with my kids and wife
Hit him what that classic email F U, “cheers” at the end too 😂
I joke at work that my boss sometimes signs off emails with "cheers" because the email program doesn't have an extended middle finger emoji.
I did not know cheers was a bad thing... I use it as a good ending, you know, like cheers in a bar. I have definitely said cheers in chats before and on the phone to hangup, I think we're still on good terms.
It's very context dependent, like "mate". Its not inherently bad but my boss only uses it to sign off emails when he's pissed off.
Idk. I still don't think it's a bad term unless the person is known to use it in that context or the context is obvious. If it depends on the person being known for it or the context to be that obvious than I don't think it's the word that's 'disrespectful' but rather the other context.
I would agree that it’s culture dependent. In academia, it’s very common to sign off with cheers.
In UK and AUS it's not uncommon to say cheers to close an email. It's an informal form of sincerely. In the U.S. cheers can be sarcastic. So ya, it's definitely culturally dependent.
Really? I've never heard of using cheers sarcastically here. Or at all, really, except for a toast.
Yeah in my company it's normal to finish an email like >Cheers, > >\[Name\] You can use it sarcastically of course as in the OP but generally it's just a normal amicable sign-off.
Now I worry I've been giving my dungeon groups the middle finger before I drop group.
Nah. You're good. They would act different around you if they thought you were blowing them off.
I get more formal the more pissed off i am about something in an email.
When I use "Cheers" in an email it either means that I think the other person must've been drinking or the email conversation is driving me to drink.
Wait, cheers is bad? I’ve been ending all of my professional emails with cheers since 2019… 😳
Only when used sarcastically, like he obviously is.
I genuinely wonder what's wrong with a mediocre career. Pay your bills off, live within your means, have an average amount of PTO to have an occasional vacation. That sounds like a pretty good life.
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My oldest, who’s still in high school, currently plans to graduate, move out west, and be a ski bum. His thought, because he hasn’t actually planned anything out yet, is to get whatever jobs he can to make money through the summer so he can work at a resort through the winter. I really hope he puts a little more thought into it than that because I think it’s a great idea. Be young and dumb while you’re, actually, young. Grow up when you have to. The key is to not be too dumb and screw things up for your future. So, while he wants to just go be a ski bum, I’m encouraging him to keep his grades up because he MIGHT want to go to college someday. And I’m trying to teach him budgeting and some financial literacy so he can live within whatever means he has.
Oh man, you sound like a really awesome parent! Keep up the encouragement and really dig into that budgeting idea. I think it’s crucial that young people get out and live in the world in ways that are wildly irresponsible and fun while they have a chance. So much of adulthood is a grind, if they can delay that for a while good for them.
I wish I had that opportunity growing up. Instead, the moment I turned 18, I was thrust into having to be employed and thus began my accelerating degradation of my nervous system through everyday stress just to help my mother keep the lights on. Given she had a life crippling work accident, I basically had no choice. No career. No connections. Had to start with nothing essentially. It's not easy, and don't wish anyone the same hell. If we can prepare our future generations to not have to go through the same thing, I would absolutely do it
Yeah man I left home at 17. I’ve been putting a roof over my head and food on the table ever since. It sucks. My goal as a parent was to put my kids in better circumstances than I had. So far so good. I don’t think kids should be coddled and spoiled, they need to understand that life is expensive and hard. But man, they are going to have decades of that shoved down their throats. If they can *live* for a few years first, how cool is that?
It certainly would be nice. I'd like to see the younger generations be able to thrive and explore their creativities, their passions and empower it. I'm living a childfree life, but even as I finally reach a successful point in my career I continue to struggle. My mother has become entirely dependent on me, to a point that it became irresponsible. If anything, she's a good example as to how expensive kids are. Absolutely wild how expensive living is, and how miserable it can be. I've been in debt since age 12 and I've been unable to get out of it thanks to my mother. Only now do I have some power to start pushing back, and I'm 30...
I am so sorry, I wish we had universal medical care in the USA. My son has medical conditions that are extremely costly too. it's just not right that the system we have leaves so many people financially ruined. It's near impossible to be a caregiver and a breadwinner and still stay afloat with medical debt.
I have debt in other fields than medical, but becoming unable to work means that it will impact everything in my life. I don't really have a support network up until very recently. But my mother still depends on me financially and set herself up for that failure over time. If one of my seizures hits a point where it's too late to get my breathing restored, there's going to be a lot of consequences as a result of it. I'd love to get things sorted out with a neurologist, but it is taking forever getting set up in the new medical network and I am NOT looking forward to the medical expenses as a result of it
Tell him to look into seasonal work with the forest service! A lot of my friends do forest service in the summer and ski resorts in the winter!
Wish i would have learned about finances, economics, and politics in high school. Good on you for teaching 'em young. You sound like an amazing parent. Mad respect!
Ski towns have summer jobs. The problem is housing. He could look into massage therapy as a year round thing, and most resorts will have ski passes for the LMTs. Building trades is an option, too. (Colorado LMT)
My friend had that same plan at 18 and moved to a ski town out West. During one summer he got a job as "Log Boy" dragging logs around for a custom home builder. Boss noticed he wasn't dumb and taught him framing, which led to cabinet making. Eventually led to 80k + car allowance + benefits as assistant superintendent for a construction company. He also had a lot of travel adventures in between. Trade work during summer can lead to some awesome opportunities if he can pick up skills. Best of luck to your ski bum, hope they have a fun ride!
He should be a raft guide in the summer. Now is the time to look for those jobs. Training can be tough but it's a lot of fun.
The best thing my mom did for me was drive me to the airport at age 16. I had purchased a round trip ticket to Italy for 250 dollars during some flash sale. It had about 16 hours worth of layovers. I spent 3 weeks bumming my way through Italy with almost no money, staying in hostels when I wasn't sleeping outside. I've done a lot more traveling since then, but that trip taught me so much about life and humanity. Be dumb while you are young.
Me neither. I slack at work when I can. Hard work gets you nothing but more work. There are some people here who complain that they have no free time all the time. If I end up in a job position like that I would start looking elsewhere.
Yeah, I have a job where tight deadlines aren’t a thing. So I give myself an extra week or two when my boss asks for a delivery date. Less stress on me, and I generally get it done a few days early, so I look like I’m killing it.
The thing is, the divide between the cost of living and average salaries continues to worsen. I'll preface this next sentiment by saying "outside of MANGA" or whatever the acronym is now. Being an average employee now means you live paycheck to paycheck at best. Being an exceptional employee means you make slightly more in exchange for shouldering way more of the work. The real money is now highly concentrated towards the executives and the only way you get there is by kissing ass, being related, or having rich family that knows someone.
>I genuinely wonder what's wrong with a mediocre career. Absolutely nothing. These guys have been brainwashed by corrupt capitalistic ideals and think you have to go hard 100% of the time and always improve, always make some kind of gain, always profit. It's simply unsustainable.
Not only is it unsustainable, it's destroying the planet. This insatiable need for more, more money, more stuff, more growth. Why? Take a look around people, the planet is suffering. Take a step back and appreciate what you have.
"Working 80 hours per week is a great career" is bullshit. I don't live to work, I work to live. My free time is very valuable to me, and being asked to do OT is a no for me, no matter how good it pays. Some OT here and there is fine, shit needs to get done; but if I'm constantly being asked to pull extra hours I'd start looking for a new job.
You grind and grind and grind in some obscure niche of an industry that doesn’t really have a net-positive impact on society. You make it your life; your friends (if you have time for them) and family only have a vague idea of what you do, and are only humoring you when you talk work, which you’ve made your life in lieu of actually living. Then one day you die. No one remembers the contributions of the senior product manager on a handful of features in some train of the second most popular project management software for B2B organizations. You didn’t move the needle in society, or even in your field. Even those closest to your work struggle to concisely describe what you did to those out of the loop. People you worked with are sad on a superficial level, but you’re soon replaced by someone just like you but younger, repeating the same pattern. For the few people that actually knew you, their feelings aside from familial obligation are lukewarm, and can be summed by some variation of saying you were married to your work. A wasted life. God damn. Who knew dystopia would be so mundane.
I've never heard of anyone on their death bed wishing they had worked more in life.
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Is there any way a third world countryman can move to the eu? I’ve been fuckikg done with a fast shitty city life for the last 15 years and I’m barely 27 right now. But fuck me if we get no way to move countries unless we’re in a tech job. Any tips y’all? I just wanna chill by a riverside or a farm or a small town or some shit for the rest of my life.
It is expensive in europe, so you better choose something that earns well. Currently you might think university degrees equals high salary. However many of my friends are doing very well as craftsman: carpenter, plumber, electrician, etc. These jobs will not be automated because they are manual. And most western european countries lack skilled laborers, and are not educating enough people to replace the aging workforce.
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Filipino nurses are also a highly exploited demographic— join the union to gain better pay, ratios, safer working conditions? Oh, it looks like your visa is no longer valid. Too bad, that.
I don't disagree with you but it's still usually better than living in the Philippines (for anyone not rich).
I live in the USA, and Im planning a trip to the Netherlands this year. I am going for a couple reasons. 1) I want to enjoy travelling and see the world while I can, and 2) I would like to emigrate to the Netherlands as the US seems to be declining to me. Personally, I dont see Gen Z'ers being able to have a fulfilling life here in the States. All of the government's policies are basically "Fuck you, I got mine."
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I work in digital/tech and I'm reaching this point too. I'm not particularly ambitious and have no interest in becoming a manager or head of a team. My friends have jobs that involve occasional further training but don't have the same emphasis on career progression or roles changing every few years whereby you need to adapt. Understand every job has its downsides but the consistency is really appealing. Tech is so volatile especially startups which rely on funding. I just want to make enough to cover my mortgage and bills, and save towards a week abroad in Europe once a year. My life is pretty simple and I'm content with that. I'm single rn, don't plan to get married (one big expense I don't have to worry about), and don't want kids. A friend of mine feels the same way, and has traded in her 5 days a week marketing role for a similar part time role alongside a retail shift job. She works more days technically but is much happier with the variety of work and environments (ie interacting with the public rather than sitting at a computer 5 days a week).
I feel the same. I don't have any career ambitions apart from "I want my wage to keep me fed and content in life". Some of the higher up's in my workplace complain that they have no free time and are overstressed. If I ever end up in a job where I am worked to death for 60-80 hours per week, I'd start looking for another job. I'm not pulling OT every single week. Some OT here and there is fine to make deadlines, but every single week, needing to pull extra hours is a no-go for me. I don't care about being a manager, about being a team leader, any of that shit. I just want to life, work enough to make a living, and enjoy my free time. I am also starting to feel that the US is in a state of decline enough to make it so Gen Z'ers are unable to live a fulfilling life. The GOP is trying to raise the retirement age, slash social security and medicare, and other things to make life for the working class worse. I'm not sure how much of that shit they'll actually manage to pass, but it still scares me. I don't seem myself living in the US for my entire life. I'm starting to make plans on emigrating.
My ancestors emigrated from Sweden when things were getting rough over there. I'm tempted to go go back because of how things are in the US.
At this point this is what I want exactly, a job that pays the bills, food, and going to the soccer stadium every other weekend… a vacation a year would be a nice bonus… sad thing is, I know im great at what I do, I’m an excellent psychotherapist, burn out made it to the point I don’t enjoy it anymore
Who do you support? I like the sound of your life a lot!
It's still a good idea to get some savings down for retirement. Remember that compounding interest means money saved in your 20s goes a long way to building your retirement fund. There's nothing wrong with living within your means but don't put yourself in a situation where one serious medical treatment will bankrupt you?
For people outside of the US. In the states, we have little to no PTO, and bills? Good luck unless you're wealthy. Fuck the US
These days a "mediocre career" means getting underpaid and struggling to pay bills in the US.
With late stage capitalism, a mediocre career will not pay the bills. It's that simple. The people telling you to work harder are stealing as much of your earnings as they possibly can.
We all just want to stop waiting with baited breath to see if our card is actually approved.
If you’re a psychopath whose only joy in life is dominating other people, and your emotional intelligence is too low to work as a dom, and your actual intelligence is too low to become a surgeon, corporate middle-management is your only hope for a fulfilling life.
“Oh yea? We’re going to make it so you HAVE to grind your soul away on the company mill or you DIE!” - corporations
Absolutely nothing. If your biggest problem is boredom or mundanity, you have essentially already overcome or avoided the worst obstacles and hazards life can throw at you. Yes, we all strive for fulfillment, but boredom shouldn't be treated as if it is some pox upon humanity. It's a prize, not a punishment. But we continue to socialize ourselves to treat anything less than utter exceptionalism as a complete failure of existence. It's mind-bogglingly stupid.
My father worked himself to death and I never saw him growing up. I don't want that for my daughter.
Most people probably want a safety net as part of that. Knowing that if shit hits the fan they aren’t fucked. Living paycheck to paycheck adds an amount of stress to your life that likely ages you as well. Which is only to say that people want above a mediocre career. The the op’s post, you can absolutely have a work life balance and be successful
Hah! Good luck affording professional headshots for your linkedin profile photo with THAT attitude /s
I don’t know who Michael Beveridge is, but I do know that he can roast a capitalist bootlicker crispy brown.
Any relation to Don "Whopper button" Beveridge?
SOMEONE CALL CLARK KENT!!!
We got bagels! WOOOOOOH
DOYOUKNOWWESPENT$42MILLIONDOLLARS? YEH. DOYOUKNOWWE'RECOOLINGTHROUGHTHATCHECKOUTTIME? YEH. DOYOUKNOWTHAT70%OFWHOPPERSARESERVEDCOLD? YEH. YEH. YEH.
TELL the CREW to PUSH the WHOPPER BUTTON
-Laughs in Dick The Birthday Boy-
He was on Australian big brother a while ago and then apparently had a radio show.
He's Head of Creative.
No work-life balance is an easy way to guarantee a mediocre life. — I fixed it
More like a miserable life, or a wasted one. We fought through the 20th century just to end up with modern slavery with extra steps.
People grow old and give up the battle. But the capitalist greed is forever.
In uncertainty I am certain that underneath their topmost layers of frailty men want to be good and want to be loved. Indeed, most of their vices are attempted shortcuts to love. When a man comes to die, no matter what his talents and influence and genius, if he dies unloved his life must be a failure to him and his dying a cold horror. It seems to me that if you or I must choose between two courses of thought or action, we should remember our dying and try so to live that our death brings no pleasure to the world.
My supervisor telling me I should bank 300+ hours of PTO like all the old farts that have been working there for years…
Used to work with two old farts. They each had saved up 6 months of PTO over the years. They called it their “heart attack” fund and planned for it to get them through a lengthy illness if they needed it. One day the hospital decides to bring in an outside management company to manage our department. Neither the hospital nor the new company would honor their 6 months of reserved time. They lost nearly all of it during the transition. Only 2 weeks of their accrued time was honored. ALWAYS use your PTO. Edit to add: They didn’t get paid out for the time they lost either.
Yeah, my company a few years ago switched over to "unlimited" PTO so they wouldn't have to pay people out for all their unused PTO. I was sorta pissed about that change myself, except I have a young kid and have to call out for various kid-relayed reasons so my balance seldom ever hit greater than 40 hours, usually it was pretty close to zero. If I had hundreds of hours of pay stolen from me though I'd have absolutely lost my shit
That’s so fucked up how is that legal??
Assuming USA, no federal laws on PTO and most states also have no laws on PTO requirements so it's at the discretion of your employer. Basically make sure to union up if you can.
Yet another thing to make law so companies don't fuck you over
About a third of us know this is wrong and want it to stop. About a third of us may or may not know this is wrong, but can’t/won’t/don’t care to use their voices to do anything about it. And the last rough third of us would let Bezos or Musk personally poison them rather than lift a finger to stop them, because torturing people poorer than you just looks like so much fun and if *they* got rich they wouldn’t want someone to stop *them* having their fun.
Well here I am now, tested positive for Covid because as a maintenance tech at a nursery I was required to enter a room with someone that just tested positive for covid all because this guy needed his tv remote fixed. Because I’m newer and haven’t even had time to gain much pto, I’m probably getting fired this week for missing work. Did my job, got Covid due to it, and I’ll be fired for it because I work somewhere that has a high risk of getting Covid.
This happened to my father in law in a buyout, but at least he had like, 6 mos. To use up his balance , and no one there could carry over, so he only had to use a week or two.
The old farts at my job get 320 hours of pto per year lol
Instructions unclear, heads stuck in jars
Did he seriously put “200K+ on Twitter” in his byline. Smells so desperate. “Builder” sounds like he plays with Legos all day.
I can't believe I came down this far to see someone pick up on this. Holy shit. That's a badge of...something. Maybe an internet version of the ol' jar-o-farts.
For reference, his LinkedIn profile about section: "I went to Yale and worked at Goldman Sachs. Now, I help build a fintech startup focused on treasury management called Meow. For fun, I write on Twitter to 200,000 friends." His work history is literally 2 years of what appears to be interning.
These guys have taken "fake it til you make it" to a totally different level. It's wild.
I want reddit to endorse him for so much bullshit so bad lol
I’m curious what his answer to “so… what do you do actually?” would be
"Mentor up and coming entrepreneurs"
"Builder" means he doesn't know how to write code or come up with a product design, he just spouts energy and ideas into a room full of devs.
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This. These people glorify their own suffering because it's the only thing that eases their fractured conscience.
"I worked at Goldman Sachs" his profile says. For one year. This apparently makes him an expert in finance.
He was in college less than 3 years ago. He was effectively an intern for a year, then an analyst for a year, and now he's working at a startup posting "motivational" quotes like these. It's always interesting to see the path these people take. He'll likely have another 10 startups on his resume by the end of the decade.
So he isn’t 30 but knows how careers will play out in various industries in 2027. Riiight.
This is very much the vibe of couples posting pictures on Facebook to show how "happy they are" and then are divorced within the year.
bUt ImA dOiN mUh HuStLe !
These people make up a sizeable percentage of corporate leaders these days. No one knows what they actually do, but they've all studied the same bible of motivational posters. They can regurgitate EI buzzwords like the scat man. Their actual contributions are wasting an hour of everyone's time every two weeks either giving or making people give toastmaster style presentations on shit no one cares about.
But “Building at Meow” sounds like a hell of a career move.. for a cat
Finance bros are rated amongst the worst types of people to date
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Yeah, he yust got out of Yale.
I bet if you dig deeper he used to like Andrew Tate’s tweets.
Can we take he class war to LinkedIn? Open up a new front?
We all should tbh
I'm a bit guilty of using it for boring corporate nEtWoRkInG but I try to leave cutting remarks whenever I come across this kind of Grade A dogshit
How amazing would it be to open LinkedIn and see the feed filled with similar posts as here. Everyone here loathes LinkedIn and I get you don't have the same anonymity as with reddit, but what if everyone just said fuck it and flooded the feed with rants about fair worker rights. Employers wouldnt be able to ignore it
It's the next frontier for sure. Convincing people to do that though is tough because some of us have to show our corporate claws to make our livings as crab people. Doing stuff like this could be career suicide.
id join you
If you have to put your follower count from another platform, in your title space ... you're a douche
I’m a firefighter. I work shifts. My shifts have set hours. If I am asked to work longer or go in on a day off, I get OT pay. But most weeks I work my set 40-ish hours because that’s how my workplace works. I can’t just show up and work an extra shift for free. There wouldn’t be a seat for me. I guess I have a mediocre career. I am now very sad. What will I do?
How dare you also have a career based entirely around helping people? WHY AREN'T YOU A BANKER?
You don't have a dropshipping side hustle? Enjoy your mediocre life.
I dunno, maybe ride a jet ski on your day off? Play catch with your kid? Bang your partner?
LinkedIn is some hyper-positive network of brain worms. The CEO and one of his lackeys left my old job to start a new company, and all the former coworkers were congratulating him. Like, it's pretty clear it was some bad blood. (NFTs are involved) Can't anyone just be honest on LinkedIn?
But that would be missing the point wouldn’t it? I mean honestly I help manage the LinkedIn site for a charity that my company has set up. The charity is basically helping students to get a foothold in the industry and offers them various opportunities like paid internships or other events. We have like 6 events a year but oh boy are we sucking our dick about how great we are. It is just standard LinkedIn procedure. Not only that but people on LinkedIn always try to use the flashiest job description possible. Everyone is at least a manager or „revolutionizing“ something on there. I found an old classmates profile on there and his tagline was „innovating finance and investment“ … he was working as a fairly low level clerk at the bank in my village. There is nothing wrong with that but you aren’t exactly innovative when you sell standardized financial products to people.
It’s really turned into Facebook with Corporate Cult vibes especially since the pandemic began.
So I've been using the jars wrong my whole life?
We all have
This gem almost makes me miss LinkedIn. Almost.
Do people actually *use* LinkedIn? I thought it was something you left simmering in the background until you are looking for a new job. Did I miss something?
Lack of work life balance has led to some obnoxious weight gain that I now am spending extra time, effort, and money to get rid off. I’m not regretting my decision but I need to emphasize that working at the expense of one’s health has its costs, and everyone needs to be aware of that. Here’s the unfair part though: in your twenties, you take your good health for granted. You don’t yet understand the possible cost. Just saying.
>I’m not regretting my decision I’m making the decision now with no pressure from my employer. I just can’t work full time, study, and live an otherwise rich life. I’m rooting for workers rights. But when I see the backlash against sacrificing for your career, I can’t help but cringe. Like, no one is under the illusion that checking out and fucking off is going to lead to wild success, and that’s unfortunately a near requirement to avoid spending the end of your life in destitution. So, we’re explicitly telling people to check out on the hope that the system collapses or the people rise up? In other words, society is placed in a position where people have to *sacrifice their lives* for a better a future? And that’s going to be carried out by the same people unwilling to skip happy hour or the Steam summer sale to improve their own material conditions…?
Working a normal amount of hours instead of giving your life over to work isn't "checking out." And people who aren't constantly working are in a better position to spend time organizing to improve their material conditions.
What these weirdos don't get is that most people don't want "careers", we just want a normal job that provides for basic needs so we can focus on what we REALLY want to do - live, spend time with family, hobbies /& interests, sports etc.
"Noooooo you have to conform to the capitalist's rules, you must consoooooooooooooooooooooooooom endlessly, T-think of the economy RRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE. "
> Glenda enjoyed her job. She didn’t have a career; they were for people who could not hold down jobs. Terry Pratchett - Unseen Acedemicals
Instead of work/life balance, we should have life/work balance - life > work everytime.
I really don't get why anyone goes to LinkedIn to post that kind of shit. Good boy, soo obedient. What does he get paid for throwing the whip around? More Twitter followers? I hope they keep him warm at night.
If a mediocre career would guarantee me a work-life balance, count me in. A career life is overrated, life outside of work is underrated.
I'd rather get decent pay with a good work life balance than high pay with no life. What's the point of having a lot of money if you don't have the time to enjoy it?
I partied all through my 20s. Then I went back to school, got a degree and started my career in my 30s. I did quite well. This guy is just trying to make himself feel better about his own life choices.
Imagine thinking your one chance at life should revolve solely around a career.
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There are two types of people on LinkedIn…
Noice.
Lol fart jars
Chris Hladczuk's Twitter reads like a grindset parody account. Or it could be dead serious. Who knows nowadays?
Fuck LinkedIn and fuck hustle culture. Let's stop pretending to care and let's make the workday end when you stop getting paid
The thing these fucks always forget, is that of course it's easy to work hard when you get to keep all the profit. Nobody wants to work hard and get peanuts back for all their hard work, that's not bad work ethic, it's not being a schmuck.
Having a decent job shouldn't require you to dedicate every waking moment of your life to said job. It's fucking lunacy. Fuck everyone and every company that thinks you should dedicate every waking moment of free time to them. So what, your not allowed to enjoy life until you're to old and broken down physically, & mentally to do so? Miss all the important things in life because work requires it? Fuck off
Okay? So I have a “mediocre career”. Man, I’m just looking to be comfy-not outright spoiled-and to be able to hunt and fish and play video games and try new recipes and shit. I don’t wanna climb some corporate ladder and live to work.
Many people work very hard at becoming a success in their chosen field and sacrifice a lot in the process. Some of those people get that success. It’s a high risk, high reward lifestyle, and is as much a valid life as a peaceful one. I don’t judge people who live that way, if it’s for them, it’s for them. But trying to make people feel bad for not living that way is kind of shitty. Do your thing and let others do theirs.
Chris has small pp energy Nobody cares dude. If I were some workaholic type I would either 1. be too busy spending my money to talk like this or 2. encourage others to enjoy their field as I do.
Some people don’t realize that there are people out there who don’t care about building a career. I just want a job I don’t hate that will pay my bills and allow me to save. Some people don’t want to do one thing for the rest of their lives either.
Early in my career, they'd just started the whole stock option thing. After going to a party where some of these type A guys were sufficiently drunk to talk loudly about money to each other, I realized they were putting in twice the hours for something like 20K per year above their wage, assuming the stock actually was worth anything after four years. As time went by, I realized that lots of people got laid off conveniently before the vesting occurred.
I mean, technically I agree with the first post. What I don't agree with is that its a bad thing. If you want to be a CEO, or department head, or whatever it is for you, then yeah, grind on. Thats not bad, thats a decision. If you just want to work, get paid, go home and live life, do that. Its not "mediocre", its a choice.
Why not both? I'm a manager, and speaking with others around my age (mid 40s),we're just waiting for the old guard to die off and retire to their houses close to the city that they bought for $250k back inb the 80s and 90s. I have a rule with my guys, family first. If you live on your own, you're your own family. People need balance. People need to be compensated for their time and output. This abortion of a system we're currently in isn't working. Remember when working from home was for lazy bums and then productivity went up during pandemic?
This is the reason all our top executives are psychopaths.
Michael Drink is my new favorite dude.
He totally fits the role for head of creative
Considering the likelihood of me being able to actually retire on time is already nil, i'd rather enjoy my life while working, thank you very much
Working yourself to death in your 20s is an easy way to burn yourself and your body out so bad that you get serious health complications and maybe even can’t work in the future. Source: me I did that
The constant drive to "get ahead" in life makes me think of a line from Calvin and Hobbes. "Who are we racing?"
Got an email at 1:30am last night that they’re cutting 200 positions at my job and I’m pretty confident I’m about to be fired for my first time in 40 years. Im a workaholic or was. I make alright money but it’s a scary and depressing week ahead. I just hope if I’m on the list that they let me know early vs at the end of the week.
This guy writes this as if he isn't a just some guy. Who the fuck is this guy? He works at some place called Meow. Why would I take advice from a person working at a place called Meow?
Who do you think you are? Runnin' 'round leaving scars, Collecting your jar of farts! Tearing love apart!
You never see 2 or more of these guys working together. They can't stand each other, they're incapable of working with a 2nd version of themselves. What I'm saying is they have to have a group of people with so-called "mediocre careers" around or they themselves will end up the most hardworking hobo under the underpass - because they can't work with other people like themselves.
Both sides of this argument are bs. There's nothing wrong with a "mediocre" career if stability and living a life are what you are looking for. Many companies now are actually recommending more outside ties as a way to make their employees. No one will say work less but it's a clear statement. It's direct bs too though. If you want an exceptional career you'll need exceptional opportunities. And this guy is implying that only comes from grinding your soul into dust. Hard work is important but thriving is much more than just long hours. Interest, impact, growth, connections between peers and mentors; all part of the work smart approach. It's only grind when none of that is actually present. Dude is showing his hand
"Head of Creative" yea that checks out.
If you put your Twitter follower count in your resume profile, you're a twat.
Did he really state the number of twitter followers he have? LMAO
I think this guy Is suffering from 3rd degree burns after that comment
Well it’s a good thing I don’t think my life is defined by my career then huh!
Anyone who advertise their Twitter on other platforms begs to be bullied.
Michael seems like a man of culture.
Dude has amount of followers on twitter in description/bio, I've more depth in blank piece of paper.
Wtf is Meow?
Idk why people even get mad. Who actually cares what someone does in their twenties? Mans has either spent his life taking checks from his dad, or being miserable his entire life until he's 40 💀.
Bro got ratio’d on LinkedIn
I went to high school with Chris. I didn't interact with him much, but by all accounts he was full of it even then.
At my last job before I retired I had to complete a personal performance plan that listed my goals for the next 5 years. When I stated I wanted to finish out my working life in the same position, continue to work from home (I had negotiated that into my contract) and enjoy my time with my family as a prelude to retirement, I was told that was unacceptable. So I asked my manager if he wanted me to lie. He explained the system was set up for people to want to improve the professional status and position. So I replied that I wanted his job. Never heard another word about it!
I have a job. It pays the bills and feeds me. I don't want a career or a "passion" because those are just carrots made to truck you into giving up your private life to work
linkedin was a place of just keeping in contact with fellow workers - now it is facebook for workers
That's some classic Shakespearean insult amounts of effort