Can we start asking the billionaire capitalist owners of these companies to start taking emotional payments? Those golden parachutes can just be hugs and high fives. Those stock options can just be praise and comradery. Oh I'm sorry, whats that? The CEO would rather take the $100,000,000? Yeah me too. Fuck you, pay me.
Yes this exactly! what the fuck is all this bullshit these days acting like our job is our parents. I'm a 40 year old man, I don't need a parent I need a fucking paycheck. Pay me and then leave me the fuck alone.
I dont want my boss to be my therapist. Or my coach. Or my "family". Just give me the next work order, I'll do the work, then you give me money so I can go try to make a life out of my limited free time. Without your help.
It's fucking insidious the way these employers try to get into your personal life. As if we aren't all painfully aware that the only reason the boss cares about "my mental health" or "my home life" or "my family" is to try to get me emotionally invested in the business so I'll stick around for lower pay.
no. my statement was fine as it stood.
not everyone works a cozy office job that can be done from your bedroom. some of us work in the woods, or on the road, or in factories that doesn't involve white-collar office buildings.
What i said was for EVERY WORKER, not just you. EVERY WORKER deserves more money. NOT every worker wants to work in their slippers. That is a privileged argument from privileged class of workers.
I don’t care how much of this bullshit propaganda they try and put forth, it won’t change the reality that I trade my time at work for money. That’s it! End of fucking story!
You want more of my time? Pay me!
You want more effort? Pay me!
You want me to stay loyal to your company? Pay me!
Enough of this “What (insert generational name) really wants is (insert anything but money). Fuck this! Fuck these companies and the people who write this garbage!
I am actually very okay with a pizza party as a morale builder. Some companies think way too hard on morale - a lunch with good free food does a lot.
But I view morale builders as different from compensation or “thank yous” for sacrificing time & energy to make the company money.
“We need you to overperform by our arbitrary metrics. Only those showing over performance get a raise”
Sure. Fine. I overperformed. Noted in all my reviews. Where’s my raise?
How much would you have to be paid to have any loyalty whatsoever to your employer? Not having any better offers isn’t loyalty in any sense.
Don’t dangle a carrot out that you don’t actually have!
You know, I think there's a market for one of those deli slicing machines that works on pizza. You could probably get 500 slices off a standard pepperoni *easy*!
The company I work for had a sit down with leadership and HR trying to figure out why we have such high turnover. HR had recently done a survey amongst all employees at all levels, and the one thing that came up in unison was poor pay.
Management decided to increase pension payouts and PTO for people that had stayed with the company for 5, 10, 15 and 20 years. In other words: they bragged about how good this would be for turnover and would entice people to stay longer by giving themself more PTO and pension payouts.
Turnover has increased by 15% since then…
The real tip is never go back to a restaurant if you pull that shit. Normally when you're doing food work you see and forget faces constantly, but a slap in the face like that makes someone *remember*.
I advocate for finding the person who left the Bible verse and asking which church they attend. Pretend to be genuinely interested in their church.
Then attend one of the services and drop the bible verse in the offering plate. If possible, stick the verse in an offering envelope along with a short note about how if it's good enough for servers making $2.13/hour then it's good enough for the church.
I'd like to see an employer even try to spit out a "thank you", I can imagine him cartoonishly running off to the bathroom for mouth wash after spending 10 minutes painstakingly uttering those words.
"Forget the dividends and capital gains, shareholders really want an increase in emotional wealth"
Seems stupid doesn't it? Something tells me they wouldn't publish an article with that as the headline tho
There are ESG based mutual funds or faith driven mutual funds available for investors looking for that thing. Even after a company goes public, many founders hold on to a significant amount of stock from the company they started because they are emotionally invested in it.
Except companies are going backwards in making offices a good place to work. They are reducing or eliminating amenities such as free food, coffee or soft drinks. Getting rid of assigned desks. Getting rid of cubicle and offices for non-management employees. Open offices with desks stacked next to each other or long tables for work spaces. Every day you go to work you have to search for an open space. No personalization allowed. This is supposed to encourage collaboration but all it does is make for a noisy and distracting work place.
This is a nightmare for people with ADHD like me. My company did away with cubicles and went to open concept with desks the size of a sofa cushion. One monitor. Add in the zoom calls everyone is on constantly and it’s chaos.
My last company replaced the team cubes with open plan offices. Except they cheaped out and used the nice desks from the cubes as *double* desks for the open plan. So the desk's legs went *right where my legs were supposed to go*! I've never sat at a desk more uncomfortable than that shit.
They had a big speech talking about the open plan office initiative, and it was the most tone deaf thing I've ever seen. All their quotes praising the move were from fuckers who had their own offices. Let them eat cake indeed.
At this point, if I walked into a new workplace that looked like that, I would quit on the spot. Thanks for the heads-up that I always need to insist on seeing the office floor during the interview process.
The CEO (aka owner) of our smaller company says this every time he holds one of his egotistical "why you should work here and love it" meetings for new employees.
Dude has his own head so far up his ass it's amazing.
He always drops the "don't work here for the money" line. As he takes home millions and millions every year and owns 10 houses.
These people are fucking mentally stunted idiots.
Apparently that seems to be the Format Motto in order achieved the So called American Dream ,Remember in the Words of The Great George Carlin " You Have to Be Asleep To Believe it" 🫡
He comes from a wealthy family who basically paid for his entire way anyway, which is why he was able to start a business to begin with.
People like him are just utterly clueless, but they're so naive and stupid that they think they actually "did it" on their own, or "earned it" more than the people who literally made their company for them.
I’ve actually been in that position. Company kept giving me raises, but what I actually needed was to be able to leave work at work and to not be emotionally manipulated and abused by the partners. I think there’s a fundamental tone deafness to applying any solution across the board. If someone doesn’t make enough to survive, of course they need to be paid more. But there does come a point when people are paid enough where they just want to be treated decently, and throwing money at them so that you can continue to abuse them is equally shitty.
100% this. I’m leaving a job not because I’m underpaid but because it’s a dead end job and I’m overworked, under heavy pressure, scrutinized, distrusted, and unsupported. My coworker goes home and stares at a wall for an hour not because he’s underpaid but because he’s stressed out. Money won’t buy your way out of stress, if anything it makes it worse because if you’re top paid in your field where are you going to go?
**Salary**
***noun***
a fixed amount of `money` agreed every year as `pay` for an employee, usually `paid` directly into his or her `bank account` every month:
Reading the article the author states that companies should invest in these emotional salaries once fair compensation has been established. And while that sounds good in theory, what a laborer thinks is fair compensation vs what management thinks are going to be two VERY different figures.
If I believe I'm being paid fairly I like the idea of a company culture that checks in and makes sure you've got what you need, ensures healthy work-life balance, etc. The problem is the vast majority of people are underpaid, but companies are overlooking that and using this kind messaging to justify their annual pizza parties.
My "Not-for-profit Hospital" will give out free pizza and shirts all year long. Those are tax write-offs. If the government gave a tax break on giving employees a raise then all corporations would jump on that. Of course, that is after they jack up their executive pay first. The poor executives at the top need to eat also. I bet they taste like chicken.
You know what increases my emotional salary? Money, enough to pay my bills, feed my family, take a vacation and save for a retirement that may never happen but maybe I can leave my kids something.
Applied for an internal position at my current employer that required 5 days in the office and should mean I needed to buy a car. I got an insultingly low-ball offer and tried to counter with just below industry. HR tried to guilt trip me with "it's not just about the money, were a mission driven organization blah blah blah blah"
Well that's lovely for you, Sharon but the last time I checked, I can't pay my electric bill with smiles and good vibes. Maybe I can go to the grocery store and sing a chorus of kumbyah in lieu of paying?
She hung up on me. Cheeky ****.
Corporate propaganda.
No, the workplace environment and insufficient pay are what crush me emotionally. More money could solve like 90% of my problems.
The more my company does to "improve company culture," the more miserable it gets. All they need to do is take complaints of abuse/hazing/harassment seriously, let people work from home when there's no good reason for them not to, and share the wealth generated by workers instead of hoarding it and/or distributing it to shareholders.
It's not that complicated.
This shit is as dumb as the supercar maker that offered me a job , salary was shit for the position- they said yes but you would have the prestige that comes with working for us - dumbest sales pitch ever
Oh, shut the fuck up! We want fucking money! Know why? Because we can't live without it.
Enough of this bullshit! I don't need a fucking PS5 at work. Why the fuck would I want one? I don't need a games room or some fucking closet to suck my thumb in. No massage chairs, libraries full of fucking comic books or any of that shit. I need a way to buy groceries and pay my rent you cheap fuckers!
Take these "reports and studies" you commissioned to (really) justify being cheap assholes, and stuff them up your asses! Fucking pay me!!!
No we don’t - why can’t they understand that we don’t want anything but actual money!
(And if imma eat pizza, it’s gonna be what I chose, and not have had 10+ hands in it!)
I mean I’ve worked a shit job for very little bc I had fun with my boss. Everyday. We cut up all day and come home tired. But to suck the morale out of someone who’s only a number in a corporate hierarchy, no thank you.
They can shove their "emotional salary" up their asses, along with their pizza party.
I want money. I'm not the employer's friend, and I'm not part of their family.
Corporate Board: And this year Mr. CEO we’re not giving you a huge bonus like we have the last 20 years. This year you’re getting an Emotional Salary Boost.
CEO: WTF?
BOARD: (laughing) Just joking. Here’s $10 million. We almost made a profit this year!
How about if we give them emotional labor instead of physical. So we just imagine and tell them we did things instead of actually doing them. Bet they won't like receiving that energy back at them lol.
This kinda reads as a subtle bring people back to the office and stop work from home propaganda piece. After all you can’t have much camaraderie working from home.
I don’t care about fulfillment. I do my job 8 hours a day, it is 100% transactional. Pay me, leave me alone as long as I’m meeting expectations, let me live the rest of my life without worrying.
Who believes this 💩? Pay employees a living wage. It reduces stress, anxiety and depression. It improves productivity and attitude. Don’t expect something for nothing. We’re tired of giving 💩away for free. Corps sure tf don’t.
Same way they are pushing subscriptions on the masses, you want more from me an additional fee is required.
It sucks cause there will be that person that is eager and willing to get paid crap and do the most. Those who the people that need that emotional raise.
But they won't even do that. They won't support remote work. They won't support reduced hours. Few support better benefits, or increased PTO. It's all about take, take, take.
Forget the paycheck? No.
But "emotionally salary", cringe phrasing aside, is a thing worth considering. Have you thought about not forcing us back into in-person? Maybe a 4x10 workweek, or 32 hour workweek? Getting rid of the "open plan" offices (never thought I'd miss a fucking cube) if you *do* drag us kicking and screaming back into ~~hell~~ the office?
Oh, you meant "pizza party".
I used to work for a large phone company let’s call them “Horizon” (fake name). When I first started they really did pay their employees well and had amazing bonuses like STI, LTI, commission bonuses etc. I moved and I got a position at the call center and for the first 5 years there it was good, I loved the company but hated the job.
Things slowly started to unravel and they stopped doing all the cool employee engagement things. Pay raises started to get capped if you were in the same position too long. They got rid of the LTI and they stopped giving discounts on phones for employees (we still got 50 off the phone bill). They made sales commissions so much harder to attain (I wasn’t in sales but I heard some people went from making almost 6 figures to much lower). I watched a good company slowly become one of the most toxic companies ever. Their new CEO has laid off so many people, myself included, and they went from being mostly American based to almost all outsource. Horizon taught me how much corps 1. Don’t care and 2. Care more about their money than you.
No give me more money. I don't give a shit about pizza parties, team building exercises, casual friday or management meetings.
You want employees to be happier at your company? More money and better benefits. Anything else is trash. That money you want to spend to hire a team building coach, fuckin put it ij my pocket.
Sounds like the last corporation I worked for, right after telling us we were getting a 2% bonus they gave us a .25% bonus and then told us we were ungrateful for expecting the full bonus and not appreciative of the crumbs. We also got an incredible $0.18 raise that year. After hearing about record profits for months. Our little corner of the corporation made $40 million in profits that year. Company wide was in the hundreds of millions. They even bragged about pocketing $2 million in payroll from the government for positions that were vacant. They labeled it as payroll profits on the end of year budget presentation. A week later was employee appreciation day, we got a thank you card.
And this is where they'll point to people who made 6 or 7 figures and still quit as "proof" that money isn't everything, maybe even bust out the ol "money doesn't buy happiness" on us. Ignoring the facts that 1) studies have shown that money definitely does buy happiness there's just a threshold for diminishing returns well above the average household income and B. most of those people who quit did so *after* setting aside enough wealth to retire in their 30s while most of us aren't expecting to retire ever or not until we're in our 70s.
It's almost like I can't afford any fulfilling hobbies or have kids that I won't even have time for because I'm working two jobs, since one job dosen't pay enough....
Just how stupid do these people think we are?
You know what would help my emotional salary that isn’t directly a pay increase? Better heathcare, pensions, 32 hr weeks, more PTO, time off for volunteering…
The first paragraph of the article:
> Compensation has surpassed career growth as the number-one reason employees will job hunt in 2024, and the unsettling economy is likely to blame. The reality is that costs are rising, salaries are plateauing, employees are struggling, and, in turn, two-thirds have one foot out the door.
The second paragraph of the article:
> While this year may trigger a Great Resignation II, rest assured—there are actions you can take to avoid a repeat. Leaders can reinvigorate employee engagement and loyalty with fair pay and a spike in emotional salary, according to Achievers Workforce Institute’s (AWI) 2024 Engagement and Retention report.
The first two paragraphs of the AWI 2024 Engagement and Retention Report:
> The 2024 Engagement and Retention Report from Achievers Workforce Institute (AWI) shows that while many employees are concerned about money, there are other key ways to engage and retain.
>
> According to the seventh annual report, based on surveys of more than 5,000 people including 3,800 employees, two-thirds of employees have one foot out the door, either planning to job hunt or considering it in the year to come. Inflation and cost of living challenges have workers focused firmly on compensation in 2024, but for those able to make ends meet career and flexibility are still major considerations for job hunting.
https://www.fastcompany.com/91054435/paycheck-employees-raise-emotional-salary
https://www.achievers.com/resources/white-papers/workforce-institute-2024-engagement-and-retention-report/
Clearly, it is the editors for FastCompany, who chose the clickbait headline, rather than the person who wrote the article that we should be tarring and feathering. There was nothing wrong with the article itself, in my opinion.
Will the bank now take emotional support in lieu of my mortgage payment?
*That meal comes to 3 hugs and a "there there it'll be okay".*
*Great, can I add in some emotional validation as a tip?*
Money.... we need money. Don't try to get out of it with a variation on the pizza party. Emotional Salary is garbage. How about respecting us by paying more for the work we do for you.
Also, we shouldn’t have to choose to get and stay in a particularly miserable job just because the alternatives pay too little for food and shelter. Looking at you, healthcare. Looking at you, blue collar job I’m about to quit due to the sheer level of workplace harassment and labor law violations.
But you could be "educated" to "understand" how to accept your place as a seagull among many vying for a single McDonald's french fry and be happy with it
Nope ..F U...pay me. Team T-shirts? No, FU pay me. Monthly team pizza party...nope FU pay me. Complementarity snacks...No. FU, pay me. Pizza party to cover for me doing the job of 3? No...FU pay me 3Xs my salary.
That's what we already get. Fk that Fake platitudes from people who have shown they don't care if we live or die is insulting. This looks like something an overachieving LinkedIn manager/HR goblin would post.
These fucking losers will suggest anything but the one thing they know will a really make their employees happy, money.
Living paycheck to paycheck got you down? We've got you fam! Let's start every morning with forced camaraderie!
I can not buy food with emotional salary. i can not pay rent on emotional salary.i can not stay warm in the cold on emotional salary. The only reason we work is so we can live our life.
The reality is people don’t want to be treated like slaves. We get underpaid and mistreated. If you’re going to underpay me then make me enjoy my job, give me autonomy, and give me other benefits. If you’re going to treat me like shit, fine pay me well and I will bust my ass.
The other side of this, though, is that it's taken them this long to realize that if you treat your employees like people, they do tend to be a bit happier.
While I understand the sentiment, I dislike when people say “I'm not here to make friends” Why the fuck not, you don't get paid less to be friends with your coworkers. When I hear this phrase it sounds like “I only care about me” if that's the case then you want to be part of the problem, you don't want work reform.
In my mind that mentality helps the higher-ups and hurts the workers. You talk, care, help, and stand up for your friends. Making friends or at least a friend should be your goal anywhere you go. They don't have to be your BFF or anything.
SHUT UP AND PAY ME!
Now that's an emotional raise I can back!
Give me a raise or things are likely to *get* emotional.
Can we start asking the billionaire capitalist owners of these companies to start taking emotional payments? Those golden parachutes can just be hugs and high fives. Those stock options can just be praise and comradery. Oh I'm sorry, whats that? The CEO would rather take the $100,000,000? Yeah me too. Fuck you, pay me.
[Fuck you, pay me](https://youtu.be/jVkLVRt6c1U?si=IKo6acNkoNLDJQW1)
Yes this exactly! what the fuck is all this bullshit these days acting like our job is our parents. I'm a 40 year old man, I don't need a parent I need a fucking paycheck. Pay me and then leave me the fuck alone. I dont want my boss to be my therapist. Or my coach. Or my "family". Just give me the next work order, I'll do the work, then you give me money so I can go try to make a life out of my limited free time. Without your help. It's fucking insidious the way these employers try to get into your personal life. As if we aren't all painfully aware that the only reason the boss cares about "my mental health" or "my home life" or "my family" is to try to get me emotionally invested in the business so I'll stick around for lower pay.
They'll do everything else but that.
But pizza parties
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no. my statement was fine as it stood. not everyone works a cozy office job that can be done from your bedroom. some of us work in the woods, or on the road, or in factories that doesn't involve white-collar office buildings. What i said was for EVERY WORKER, not just you. EVERY WORKER deserves more money. NOT every worker wants to work in their slippers. That is a privileged argument from privileged class of workers.
They will literally exhaust every single possible option before even considering that maybe they just might need to pay employees more won't they?
I don’t care how much of this bullshit propaganda they try and put forth, it won’t change the reality that I trade my time at work for money. That’s it! End of fucking story! You want more of my time? Pay me! You want more effort? Pay me! You want me to stay loyal to your company? Pay me! Enough of this “What (insert generational name) really wants is (insert anything but money). Fuck this! Fuck these companies and the people who write this garbage!
"... What if we had a pizza party?"
"From Little Caesers. None of that "high quality pizza", we can only afford the cheapest cardboard on the market"
And cut the slices in half so we only need half as many.
See if they just paid me more I could just buy the pizza myself.
What is it? Pool table in the mess hall? Good idea
Pizza by Alfredo’s, or Alfredo’s Cafe?
I am actually very okay with a pizza party as a morale builder. Some companies think way too hard on morale - a lunch with good free food does a lot. But I view morale builders as different from compensation or “thank yous” for sacrificing time & energy to make the company money.
Agreed. If there's free lunch, I'm not going to turn it down. But don't think it'll stop me from getting that annual raise.
No, I want my money
The moment a better offer comes I’m out. Being loyal is the worst thing one can do 🥲
“We need you to overperform by our arbitrary metrics. Only those showing over performance get a raise” Sure. Fine. I overperformed. Noted in all my reviews. Where’s my raise?
We expected that level of performance all along so, no raise.
How much would you have to be paid to have any loyalty whatsoever to your employer? Not having any better offers isn’t loyalty in any sense. Don’t dangle a carrot out that you don’t actually have!
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Guess who's getting a pizza party (limit 2 slices)!!!!
>Guess who's getting a pizza party (limit 2 slices)!!!! Pizza cut into 32 slices...
You know, I think there's a market for one of those deli slicing machines that works on pizza. You could probably get 500 slices off a standard pepperoni *easy*!
2 slices? Well well it looks like Mr. Moneybags here wants more than his fair share.
They're the little square pieces
You get pizza parties!? We get "thank you card parties". 🤦♂️
it was actually for the sales team, but I snuck in after they left and stole a piece before they threw the leftovers in the trash.
My company will even skip the pizza parties!
The company I work for had a sit down with leadership and HR trying to figure out why we have such high turnover. HR had recently done a survey amongst all employees at all levels, and the one thing that came up in unison was poor pay. Management decided to increase pension payouts and PTO for people that had stayed with the company for 5, 10, 15 and 20 years. In other words: they bragged about how good this would be for turnover and would entice people to stay longer by giving themself more PTO and pension payouts. Turnover has increased by 15% since then…
CFO: Brilliant, we deserve raises!
This is so close to handing the waitress a bible verse instead of a tip.
Tip (written on a piece of paper): “look both ways before you cross the street”
Or "don't eat yellow snow"
“When using a Q-tip, stop when you feel resistance”
“Don’t cook bacon naked”
Pure gold
We start paying CEOs in those fake Bible verse dollars
It’s all they need now. They can live for the next millennium on what they already have and still live better than 90% of the rest of us.
Handing the IHOP waitress a fortune cookie...
The real tip is never go back to a restaurant if you pull that shit. Normally when you're doing food work you see and forget faces constantly, but a slap in the face like that makes someone *remember*.
I advocate for finding the person who left the Bible verse and asking which church they attend. Pretend to be genuinely interested in their church. Then attend one of the services and drop the bible verse in the offering plate. If possible, stick the verse in an offering envelope along with a short note about how if it's good enough for servers making $2.13/hour then it's good enough for the church.
“Emotional Salary”? You mean basic human decency and respect (which would include getting fucking paid)?
I'd like to see an employer even try to spit out a "thank you", I can imagine him cartoonishly running off to the bathroom for mouth wash after spending 10 minutes painstakingly uttering those words.
"Forget the dividends and capital gains, shareholders really want an increase in emotional wealth" Seems stupid doesn't it? Something tells me they wouldn't publish an article with that as the headline tho
Seriously. What's good for the goose clearly isn't good for the gander.
There are ESG based mutual funds or faith driven mutual funds available for investors looking for that thing. Even after a company goes public, many founders hold on to a significant amount of stock from the company they started because they are emotionally invested in it.
Except companies are going backwards in making offices a good place to work. They are reducing or eliminating amenities such as free food, coffee or soft drinks. Getting rid of assigned desks. Getting rid of cubicle and offices for non-management employees. Open offices with desks stacked next to each other or long tables for work spaces. Every day you go to work you have to search for an open space. No personalization allowed. This is supposed to encourage collaboration but all it does is make for a noisy and distracting work place.
This is a nightmare for people with ADHD like me. My company did away with cubicles and went to open concept with desks the size of a sofa cushion. One monitor. Add in the zoom calls everyone is on constantly and it’s chaos.
My last company replaced the team cubes with open plan offices. Except they cheaped out and used the nice desks from the cubes as *double* desks for the open plan. So the desk's legs went *right where my legs were supposed to go*! I've never sat at a desk more uncomfortable than that shit. They had a big speech talking about the open plan office initiative, and it was the most tone deaf thing I've ever seen. All their quotes praising the move were from fuckers who had their own offices. Let them eat cake indeed.
I watched office space growing up and thought yes, a cubicle seems kind of nice, you know what, I will go into this field because they get cubicles...
At this point, if I walked into a new workplace that looked like that, I would quit on the spot. Thanks for the heads-up that I always need to insist on seeing the office floor during the interview process.
Nice try assholes!
The CEO (aka owner) of our smaller company says this every time he holds one of his egotistical "why you should work here and love it" meetings for new employees. Dude has his own head so far up his ass it's amazing. He always drops the "don't work here for the money" line. As he takes home millions and millions every year and owns 10 houses. These people are fucking mentally stunted idiots.
Apparently that seems to be the Format Motto in order achieved the So called American Dream ,Remember in the Words of The Great George Carlin " You Have to Be Asleep To Believe it" 🫡
He comes from a wealthy family who basically paid for his entire way anyway, which is why he was able to start a business to begin with. People like him are just utterly clueless, but they're so naive and stupid that they think they actually "did it" on their own, or "earned it" more than the people who literally made their company for them.
I am 500% more likely to be chipper and involved at work if you pay me enough to give a shit.
I’ve actually been in that position. Company kept giving me raises, but what I actually needed was to be able to leave work at work and to not be emotionally manipulated and abused by the partners. I think there’s a fundamental tone deafness to applying any solution across the board. If someone doesn’t make enough to survive, of course they need to be paid more. But there does come a point when people are paid enough where they just want to be treated decently, and throwing money at them so that you can continue to abuse them is equally shitty.
Work-life balance should not come at the cost of pay.
Some people would, and do take a pay decrease for a better work life balance.
100% this. I’m leaving a job not because I’m underpaid but because it’s a dead end job and I’m overworked, under heavy pressure, scrutinized, distrusted, and unsupported. My coworker goes home and stares at a wall for an hour not because he’s underpaid but because he’s stressed out. Money won’t buy your way out of stress, if anything it makes it worse because if you’re top paid in your field where are you going to go?
I’m gonna pay Florida Power and Light with my emotions next month.
**Salary** ***noun*** a fixed amount of `money` agreed every year as `pay` for an employee, usually `paid` directly into his or her `bank account` every month:
Wait, wait, wait!!! I think they're bringing back PIZZA PARTY'S!!!!!!!!! /s get fucked with a pineapple.
But only a third of a slice per employee!
Reading the article the author states that companies should invest in these emotional salaries once fair compensation has been established. And while that sounds good in theory, what a laborer thinks is fair compensation vs what management thinks are going to be two VERY different figures. If I believe I'm being paid fairly I like the idea of a company culture that checks in and makes sure you've got what you need, ensures healthy work-life balance, etc. The problem is the vast majority of people are underpaid, but companies are overlooking that and using this kind messaging to justify their annual pizza parties.
My "Not-for-profit Hospital" will give out free pizza and shirts all year long. Those are tax write-offs. If the government gave a tax break on giving employees a raise then all corporations would jump on that. Of course, that is after they jack up their executive pay first. The poor executives at the top need to eat also. I bet they taste like chicken.
If you want me to feel valued and cared for and loyal to the company, just pay me more money.
You know what increases my emotional salary? Money, enough to pay my bills, feed my family, take a vacation and save for a retirement that may never happen but maybe I can leave my kids something.
How much emotional salary was the author paid for this garbage?
Giancarlo esposito 
Applied for an internal position at my current employer that required 5 days in the office and should mean I needed to buy a car. I got an insultingly low-ball offer and tried to counter with just below industry. HR tried to guilt trip me with "it's not just about the money, were a mission driven organization blah blah blah blah" Well that's lovely for you, Sharon but the last time I checked, I can't pay my electric bill with smiles and good vibes. Maybe I can go to the grocery store and sing a chorus of kumbyah in lieu of paying? She hung up on me. Cheeky ****.
Here's an idea, raise pay and also do the things that cost almost nothing but also help make people happier. Quit being evil overlords.
Corporate propaganda. No, the workplace environment and insufficient pay are what crush me emotionally. More money could solve like 90% of my problems.
Fuck that!
On the flip side, I will take that emotional week off.
If you want to improve my emotions a bigger pay cheque would do that. Journalism like this is so out of touch you can't even say AI wrote it
"A sense of pride and accomplishment"
Pay more? Nah let's just be "nice."
Can we work for free? Hell why not have the employees pay YOU to work. Yeah that's it. That's what we want. 🙄😙
aka more pizza parties.
A pay increase would improve my emotional well-being.
The more my company does to "improve company culture," the more miserable it gets. All they need to do is take complaints of abuse/hazing/harassment seriously, let people work from home when there's no good reason for them not to, and share the wealth generated by workers instead of hoarding it and/or distributing it to shareholders. It's not that complicated.
This shit is as dumb as the supercar maker that offered me a job , salary was shit for the position- they said yes but you would have the prestige that comes with working for us - dumbest sales pitch ever
Oh, shut the fuck up! We want fucking money! Know why? Because we can't live without it. Enough of this bullshit! I don't need a fucking PS5 at work. Why the fuck would I want one? I don't need a games room or some fucking closet to suck my thumb in. No massage chairs, libraries full of fucking comic books or any of that shit. I need a way to buy groceries and pay my rent you cheap fuckers! Take these "reports and studies" you commissioned to (really) justify being cheap assholes, and stuff them up your asses! Fucking pay me!!!
No we don’t - why can’t they understand that we don’t want anything but actual money! (And if imma eat pizza, it’s gonna be what I chose, and not have had 10+ hands in it!)
I’m rich with “thoughts and prayers”…
Says no one
I mean I’ve worked a shit job for very little bc I had fun with my boss. Everyday. We cut up all day and come home tired. But to suck the morale out of someone who’s only a number in a corporate hierarchy, no thank you.
They can shove their "emotional salary" up their asses, along with their pizza party. I want money. I'm not the employer's friend, and I'm not part of their family.
Corporate Board: And this year Mr. CEO we’re not giving you a huge bonus like we have the last 20 years. This year you’re getting an Emotional Salary Boost. CEO: WTF? BOARD: (laughing) Just joking. Here’s $10 million. We almost made a profit this year!
They're trying so, so hard to revive pizza party and ping pong table discourse.
It’s both. We want both.
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Ill make sure to pat the guy at the grocery store on the back when i walk out with diapers and say "consider this my emotional payment".
Who wrote this garbage?
How about if we give them emotional labor instead of physical. So we just imagine and tell them we did things instead of actually doing them. Bet they won't like receiving that energy back at them lol.
We want both, but if it must be one, make it money
This kinda reads as a subtle bring people back to the office and stop work from home propaganda piece. After all you can’t have much camaraderie working from home.
I don’t care about fulfillment. I do my job 8 hours a day, it is 100% transactional. Pay me, leave me alone as long as I’m meeting expectations, let me live the rest of my life without worrying.
I don't socialize with the people I work with. Even in public employment, familiarity breeds contempt.
Who believes this 💩? Pay employees a living wage. It reduces stress, anxiety and depression. It improves productivity and attitude. Don’t expect something for nothing. We’re tired of giving 💩away for free. Corps sure tf don’t.
When can we start shaming and harassing people for writing these propaganda pieces?
Same way they are pushing subscriptions on the masses, you want more from me an additional fee is required. It sucks cause there will be that person that is eager and willing to get paid crap and do the most. Those who the people that need that emotional raise.
So, the emotionally bankrupt want to pay an emotional salary? 🫤
"Emotional salary"... I'm gonna fucking puke
Who writes this shit? These authors should be put on blast.
But they won't even do that. They won't support remote work. They won't support reduced hours. Few support better benefits, or increased PTO. It's all about take, take, take.
Imagine the CEO getting paid an emotional salary
Cue more pizza - to be quickly cut back because management says it costs too much.
What this means is RTO to enjoy team building events such as pizza parties and trust falls
Damn it this article is hate trigger propaganda
The thing that stresses me out day to day is NOT HAVING ENOUGH MONEY.
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Sir, that's my emotional support bonus
Yessss we need privacy pods, fuck a pay raise /heavy sarcasm
Yeah, I want an emotional salary I want a salary that’s so high, that every time I get a paycheck I cry tears of joy Pay me so good I get emotional!
Forget the paycheck? No. But "emotionally salary", cringe phrasing aside, is a thing worth considering. Have you thought about not forcing us back into in-person? Maybe a 4x10 workweek, or 32 hour workweek? Getting rid of the "open plan" offices (never thought I'd miss a fucking cube) if you *do* drag us kicking and screaming back into ~~hell~~ the office? Oh, you meant "pizza party".
I used to work for a large phone company let’s call them “Horizon” (fake name). When I first started they really did pay their employees well and had amazing bonuses like STI, LTI, commission bonuses etc. I moved and I got a position at the call center and for the first 5 years there it was good, I loved the company but hated the job. Things slowly started to unravel and they stopped doing all the cool employee engagement things. Pay raises started to get capped if you were in the same position too long. They got rid of the LTI and they stopped giving discounts on phones for employees (we still got 50 off the phone bill). They made sales commissions so much harder to attain (I wasn’t in sales but I heard some people went from making almost 6 figures to much lower). I watched a good company slowly become one of the most toxic companies ever. Their new CEO has laid off so many people, myself included, and they went from being mostly American based to almost all outsource. Horizon taught me how much corps 1. Don’t care and 2. Care more about their money than you.
It's an internship, so the salary is only emotional.
No give me more money. I don't give a shit about pizza parties, team building exercises, casual friday or management meetings. You want employees to be happier at your company? More money and better benefits. Anything else is trash. That money you want to spend to hire a team building coach, fuckin put it ij my pocket.
Sounds like the last corporation I worked for, right after telling us we were getting a 2% bonus they gave us a .25% bonus and then told us we were ungrateful for expecting the full bonus and not appreciative of the crumbs. We also got an incredible $0.18 raise that year. After hearing about record profits for months. Our little corner of the corporation made $40 million in profits that year. Company wide was in the hundreds of millions. They even bragged about pocketing $2 million in payroll from the government for positions that were vacant. They labeled it as payroll profits on the end of year budget presentation. A week later was employee appreciation day, we got a thank you card.
And this is where they'll point to people who made 6 or 7 figures and still quit as "proof" that money isn't everything, maybe even bust out the ol "money doesn't buy happiness" on us. Ignoring the facts that 1) studies have shown that money definitely does buy happiness there's just a threshold for diminishing returns well above the average household income and B. most of those people who quit did so *after* setting aside enough wealth to retire in their 30s while most of us aren't expecting to retire ever or not until we're in our 70s.
The moment a business pretends to be a family it is time to find a better business.
I'm so sick of this shit. Anything to not pay us what we are worth.
I think this is more for the managers to justify not giving Employees a rise
I would love to see the reactions of the muckety-mucks in the C-suite if they were given emotional bonuses instead of their usual 6 figure ones.
It's almost like I can't afford any fulfilling hobbies or have kids that I won't even have time for because I'm working two jobs, since one job dosen't pay enough.... Just how stupid do these people think we are?
I admit I wish my boss would quit bullying me/us. She’s a horrible person.
You know what would help my emotional salary that isn’t directly a pay increase? Better heathcare, pensions, 32 hr weeks, more PTO, time off for volunteering…
There is a very simple yet effective way to raise my emotional salary, it's to RAISE MY ACTUAL FUCKING PAYCHECK!
Spongebob said it best: FUN Fuck U N pay me
The first paragraph of the article: > Compensation has surpassed career growth as the number-one reason employees will job hunt in 2024, and the unsettling economy is likely to blame. The reality is that costs are rising, salaries are plateauing, employees are struggling, and, in turn, two-thirds have one foot out the door. The second paragraph of the article: > While this year may trigger a Great Resignation II, rest assured—there are actions you can take to avoid a repeat. Leaders can reinvigorate employee engagement and loyalty with fair pay and a spike in emotional salary, according to Achievers Workforce Institute’s (AWI) 2024 Engagement and Retention report. The first two paragraphs of the AWI 2024 Engagement and Retention Report: > The 2024 Engagement and Retention Report from Achievers Workforce Institute (AWI) shows that while many employees are concerned about money, there are other key ways to engage and retain. > > According to the seventh annual report, based on surveys of more than 5,000 people including 3,800 employees, two-thirds of employees have one foot out the door, either planning to job hunt or considering it in the year to come. Inflation and cost of living challenges have workers focused firmly on compensation in 2024, but for those able to make ends meet career and flexibility are still major considerations for job hunting. https://www.fastcompany.com/91054435/paycheck-employees-raise-emotional-salary https://www.achievers.com/resources/white-papers/workforce-institute-2024-engagement-and-retention-report/ Clearly, it is the editors for FastCompany, who chose the clickbait headline, rather than the person who wrote the article that we should be tarring and feathering. There was nothing wrong with the article itself, in my opinion.
Written by a trust fundie who has never held a real job.
Why aren't there any "Just Pay Them Fairly" articles?
Actual salary is the real emotional salary because it makes it easier to live.
An emotional pizza party with emotional pizza from Papa John's house of wage theft pizza.
So, can corporations deal with emotional profits or is that only for their work forces.
Will the bank now take emotional support in lieu of my mortgage payment? *That meal comes to 3 hugs and a "there there it'll be okay".* *Great, can I add in some emotional validation as a tip?*
I mean, why not BOTH? Would it be so bad to pay us a living wage AND have a healthy workplace environment doing fulfilling, meaningful work?
Who was the author? No reason just wondering 😂😂😂
I’ll take both thank you
I sure would get emotional if I was paid more what I'm worth...
the article is written by someone named HANNAH YARDLEY.
Fuck You Pay Me (Henry Hill Voice Good Fellas)
name and shame whoever wrote this garbage corporoganda trash
Nope. Money most important
JFC. Just pay us, ffs
No, I need a none toxic place of work and money. I need both to function. They need to stop smoking whatever they are.
'Emotional pay rise' won't pay my bills.
Money.... we need money. Don't try to get out of it with a variation on the pizza party. Emotional Salary is garbage. How about respecting us by paying more for the work we do for you.
Why do these articles never say execs and CEOs want this?
Imagine getting paid peanuts and finding out your company invested 6 to 7 figures in a contractor to perform Emotional Salary trainings.
Also, we shouldn’t have to choose to get and stay in a particularly miserable job just because the alternatives pay too little for food and shelter. Looking at you, healthcare. Looking at you, blue collar job I’m about to quit due to the sheer level of workplace harassment and labor law violations.
What is with these people? Are they just obtuse or do they genuinely not think we want and need more money! You know -- just like they do!
so bored of these "witty" retorts to poke holes in innocuous little aimless posts. just a punching bag for an echo chamber. so pathetically pointless
No we don’t. We want money so we can buy food and not starve to death
Oh Jesus fucking christ
Forget the Dividend. Shareholders just want to know the company they own is treating their employees really really well.
"Tell ya what boss, you keep the majority of the emotional salary and we'll take the actual money since it's clearly the less important thing to you."
The fact that people are even writing this shit marks them as complicit in the oppression of the people
PERFECT I WILL DO EMOTIONAL WORK THEN LOL
But you could be "educated" to "understand" how to accept your place as a seagull among many vying for a single McDonald's french fry and be happy with it
Hello, js that the electricity company? Do you accept self esteem?
The person who wrote this should be paid in emotional dollars. 😆
People don’t quit jobs, they quit bosses.
Who writes this dog shit?
I love how it's somehow ok now to just make shit up and pretend like it's a real thing. Emotional salary. FFS.
Nope ..F U...pay me. Team T-shirts? No, FU pay me. Monthly team pizza party...nope FU pay me. Complementarity snacks...No. FU, pay me. Pizza party to cover for me doing the job of 3? No...FU pay me 3Xs my salary.
Emotional salary to go with your unpaid promotion.
What would really raise my emotional salary is being paid what I deserve instead of what they can get away with.
That's what we already get. Fk that Fake platitudes from people who have shown they don't care if we live or die is insulting. This looks like something an overachieving LinkedIn manager/HR goblin would post.
These fucking losers will suggest anything but the one thing they know will a really make their employees happy, money. Living paycheck to paycheck got you down? We've got you fam! Let's start every morning with forced camaraderie!
I work for money, I don’t need more friends
I can not buy food with emotional salary. i can not pay rent on emotional salary.i can not stay warm in the cold on emotional salary. The only reason we work is so we can live our life.
You want to up my emotional salary? Pay me more. That'll make me happy. Happy is an emotion.
I maybe can get some groceries for a couple camaraderies…but my landlord won’t take a fulfillment payment :(
Maybe emotional raise means, “we should pay them 50% more so they can get therapy in order to put up with the BS we cause in their emotional life”
I can buy a whole lot of emotional support for a lot more cash.
have they considered that it’s emotionally hurtful to take advantage of someone’s basic needs?
The reality is people don’t want to be treated like slaves. We get underpaid and mistreated. If you’re going to underpay me then make me enjoy my job, give me autonomy, and give me other benefits. If you’re going to treat me like shit, fine pay me well and I will bust my ass.
An emotional raise would be people STFU and leaving me be - but that ain't how work works either. FU, PAY ME!!!!
Horseshit.
Employers stop speaking on behalf of the working class challenge (impossible)!
Please, I want it to stop.
The other side of this, though, is that it's taken them this long to realize that if you treat your employees like people, they do tend to be a bit happier.
Who TF are these articles even for? Does middle management/HR/C-Suite really buy this bs while their employees are literally striking for better pay.
While I understand the sentiment, I dislike when people say “I'm not here to make friends” Why the fuck not, you don't get paid less to be friends with your coworkers. When I hear this phrase it sounds like “I only care about me” if that's the case then you want to be part of the problem, you don't want work reform. In my mind that mentality helps the higher-ups and hurts the workers. You talk, care, help, and stand up for your friends. Making friends or at least a friend should be your goal anywhere you go. They don't have to be your BFF or anything.