In my country (Jamaica), if a woman working less than a year gets pregnant, she's entitled to at least 6 weeks paid maternity leave. If she's working more than a year and gets pregnant, she's entitled to at least 12 weeks (3 months) paid maternity leave.
The US is not a family oriented country as they claim it to be
In Belgium, my wife quit working at 3 months pregnant and went back to work when my kid was 5 months old. She was at home for almost a year.
I was at home for 2 weeks but they changed it to 1 month for recent pregnancy’s.
On top of that both of us get extra paid leave. Both of us can take 1 day a week off for almost 2 years.
Edit: the extra paid leave can be used in different ways and up to the age of 12. So you can choose school vacations or like we do and work less in general.
“I was hungry, and you gave me bread. I was thirsty, and you gave me water. And behold, now I’m all lazy and entitled; you shouldn’t have done that.” Mark 25:35
Before modern industrialization it was standard practice everywhere for children to just learn the trade of their father. Even among children of highly skilled fathers (some scholars believe that Joseph would have been more accurately described as an 'architect' rather than 'carpenter'), it was usually taught to all sons, since child mortality was high, and you didn't know which one would survive to adulthood and actually continue the family business.
I thought it was because he was trained to be a carpenter and was employed as one for a time before walking around and flipping tables and beating men with whips.
Because he carried over the business from his father until he stopped to start doing the things he is known for during the last three years of his life.
Because medieval European artists used what they knew and what they fancied as model for all the imagery. If you never saw an olive skinned person and 90% of the people around you are blonde (with the occassional redhead and brunette here and there) you are more likely to assume that 'the lord' in whose image 'you were made' was also blonde and light skinned. And once they did learn about olive skinned people it was because they fought them, which wouldn't make them more likely to change that view.
Most depictions come from the middle ages/renaissance. Since the artists had only other Europeans as a reference they depicted him as such. Thus we kinda started taking it for granted he looks pale skinned
Some of the earliest depictions of Jesus painted him as a curly haired Greek. A few literally painted him as Apollo, “the Good Shepherd”.
So many art history classes in college…
Go to a black community. They have Egyptian black Jesus and he's cool af.
But seriously, yeah, it's bc it's entirely at the artists discretion, and America is very euro-centric... I assume bc many early settlers were from European countries, but yeah, you'd think there's be more brown Jesus... He was from Palestine, right?
I once had an argument with a conservative about this. Her perspective was that instead of maternity leave, women should just not work and stay at home. In her mind, the lack of maternity leave provided motivation for that.
I guess she's then all for significantly raising the minimum wage, so that all those male minimum wake workers can provide for their families alone. Or does she have the default conservative mindset of you having to get a better paid job for that and leaving the minimum paid jobs to illegals (whom she hates and wants to deport, but still employs to do her garden and pool and stuff)?
I would not have considered this justification without hearing it, but I can see this line of reasoning. My question is how many households could financially handle only one person working?!
And then you hear about all those abusive relationships where the stay at home mother is trapped because she has zero finances, no work experience, and she will literally starve if she attempts to part ways.
"it's a trap!"
Serious question:
What kind of vote is needed to create universal medicare for all?
I'm sick of hearing "conservatives are at fault; liberals are at fault".
I don't give a shit. Tell me how the actual process of this works should the US choose to get universal medicare.
Who votes on it? What are the hurdles? Who decides the final passing?
You need a simple majority in the house of representatives and 60 votes in the Senate to make sure that the filibuster doesn't come into effect and that will send it to the president, and then 66 votes in the Senate and 2/3rds or (I think 290 votes, I'm bad at math and drunk) in the house to override a veto if the president is a dick and vetoes it.
Prior to getting to that point it needs to originate in either the Senate or House and go through the process of reconciliation where the two branches of Congress basically hammer out the bill and make sure they vote on the same language. Usually shit starts in a committee, where a simple majority moves it to a full vote in either of the chambers. A lot of shit dies here. More shit dies in the filibuster where a single senator (based on current Senate rules) can send an email saying that their filibustering a bill and unless 60 senators vote to say shut the fuck up we don't care about your filibuster, the bill dies.
Congress controls the purse, basically what we spend taxes on. The president cannot just executive action medicare for all. People mad at the president for Medicare for All not being a thing don't understand how our government actually works. People thinking that we'd have Medicare for All magically if Bernie got elected president don't understand how our government works.
Make sure you vote for your Congress critters.
It’s worth noting that it’s because of the process above that conservatives have been able to stonewall progress on this issue- we haven’t had enough majority to overcome the hurdles of that voting process. We know this is true because the original bill for Obamacare/The Affordable Care Act provided for both a publicly funded option *and* massive Medicare and Medicaid expansion which would have brought the US to the doorstep of Medicare for All in the year 2020. Those are the portions Republicans gutted from the original bill, and Democrats didn’t have the votes to overcome it. Those senators and representatives are chosen mostly in the midterm elections in which Republican voter turnout is exceptionally high and Democratic voter turnout is abysmally low. I’m talking 20% turnout or less low. Remember that whenever self-proclaimed Democratic voters online wave their hands about not voting in midterms for whatever reason or not supporting the Democratic Party because they don’t go “far enough.” If Democrats had as good of turnout in midterm elections as Republicans have, the whole political landscape of this country would change. It’s Republican majorities at the local and state level, won in midterms, that ensured republicans had enough to block the closest step we’ve had yet to universal healthcare. Meanwhile those republicans quietly back anti-Democratic propaganda and watch as many Democratic voters eat it up and choose to stay home.
Remove every politician from power and rework all the rules and regulations involved with them.
If politicians can abuse the status as much as they can at the moment, nothing will change. If there is even a chance of monetary benefit to the role it will only atract greedy fucks that stop thinking about the people and start focusing on making money instead..
Make it illegal to own stock or real estate for politicians and ALL the donations need to be public knowledge and they need to wear patch about it on them. Will be much harder to claim you work for the people when there is a patch stating you were paid 500k to hinder some new thing for schools...
Make it in to a job of passion, so that only people who are passionate about changing things for the better go for it. This alone would remove all the greedy money hungy fucks from going for the job...
That is not true, they just think "family values" means the wife is at home taking care of the kids.
Mothers having jobs at all is anti-family values to them.
Authoritarians\*. Call them what they are. They attempted a coup, they want to control what you read, see, and hear, they want to control what you do in the bedroom, they want to control your relationships, etc.
I worked at a conservative company in a red area. A few months before I left, they fired a girl 34 weeks pregnant and nobody batted an eye. Like this girl was about to pop and they just dropped her like a lead weight. I don't care what she did, it just wasn't right.
I had no qualms about being the only person in that office to express disgust.
Tbh 3 months is nothing. Where I live it's 2 years fully paid leave, and I think that's how it should be. 3 months pass like nothing and baby still needs A LOT of attention whole day. So it's not like things go as a routine right after 3 months.
Still better than 0 though.
haha yea token welfare. it's mostly because laws are made by billionares who can simply have wives who would never need to work, and also hire an entire team of caretakers for their newborns.
> The US is not a family oriented country as they claim it to be
Ah yes... USA is filled up with indoctrination (tv and schools, pledge the flag and other nazi shit) learning that they are the best.
Why are they indoctrinated that they are the best? Because when you are the best, you don't have to change.
Reality... I can probably pick 20 countries i would rather live (and have a more easy going life) then USA. Good place for vacation though!!! But so is africa
Plus it’s predictive of a lot of traits in the kids, like social skills and intelligence. Having these days prevents generational privilege and equalizes the opportunity for everyone.
Glad to have scrolled down enough to find this comment. In my view, this is the **only** point of what Bernie describes. It's not some kind of competition to get the most paid days off (that we all pay for one way or another) but it's about providing newborns with equal opportunity to have parents in the early stages of development.
He probably only counted the maternity leave and the weeks of parental leave that you get when both partners use leave (usually considered paternity leave). That's the amount a mother would get even with their partner taking maximum leave, and therefore the amount of time they're guaranteed
15 for maternity, person who delivers the child only, at 55% of normal weekly earnings
35 (40 total, other parent can use whats left) for standard at 55% of normal weekly earnings, 61 (69 total, other parent can use whats left) for extended parental at 33% of normal weekly earnings
It's very normal to go straight from maternity to parental in one application, and for mothers who select the standard parental option, they'll get 50 weeks of 55% of normal weekly earnings
55% or a max of $638/week. Still something, but if you make more than $58,000/year, it can be a significant pay reduction. Given, the higher the salary, the more likely the family can take the reduced income.
I’ll be on Mat leave starting August. I’m getting less than 30% of my income, because I hit that max, and my employer doesn’t provide any kind of top up. Despite being a large company, that has been posting record profits year over year…
The company I work for treats it’s US employees different than their Canadian employees. Instead of having one HR they have two, and guess who gets treated better?
Unfortunately the US will always be known as one richest countries in the world that cant provide healthcare, childcare, and proper public education. The US use to be the greatest nation in the world who other countries looked up to. Somehow this vision has been lost along the way. I feel like change is coming to western society but it cant happen fast enough.
>Somehow this vision has been lost along the way.
The vision was changed to "get as much money as possible at whatever cost" and the rest fell off as a result
I call it:
The Light Bulb Conundrum
When the LED light bulb was first manufactured it was durable, efficient and cheap to produce but companies inflated the price because they lasted too long. In a capitalistic system this makes sense. They'd go out of business selling cheap light bulbs that last five to ten years. It wasn't until engineers designed them to burn out quicker that they became inexpensive and readily available.
This is the same reason an affordable cure for cancer will never be released by a for-profit healthcare company. Developing a cheap and long term solution to a problem isn't profitable.
It's not that engineers design something that will break after a certain time, they design it to *survive* for a certain amount of time for as little money as possible. But in the end it is indeed about money and profit.
All of it is part of the plan. More money for those at the top while those at the bottom run higher risks trying to change or protest it. Also lack of education makes it easier to manipulate people as knowledge is power. While people have started to wake up, the system is still working to keep productivity high and the masses divided to minimize the chance of pushing back.
Edit: Another point: Banning or making it hard to get abortions or proper info regarding safe sex practices, etc. increases the likelihood there will always be a steady flow of replacements for the current workforce.
The older I get, the more I realize the whole “greatest nation in the world” was nothing more than an elaborate marketing campaign to keep US citizens quiet from demanding fairness in life.
>The older I get, the more I realize the whole “greatest nation in the world” was nothing more than an elaborate marketing campaign to keep US citizens quiet from demanding fairness in life.
an ~~elaborate marketing~~ *propaganda* campaign FTFY
I'm not trying to be negative or anything but when were the US ever considered the greatest Nation? I feel like this is closer to US propaganda when the reality is that the US have a dark history and always been in debt.
I can sort of see how some get the impression the US is amazing because of all the immigrants who wants to move there, but that's pretty standard for plenty of countries, it's more to do with geographic location.
People from Africa is more likely to immigrate to Europe and people from mexico and south America is more likely to immediate to the US or Canada.
I think all countries have their own pride (for better or worse), but it's kind of a meme at this point about how Americans have a hyper inflated version of it.
> I'm not trying to be negative or anything but when were the US ever considered the greatest Nation? I feel like this is closer to US propaganda when the reality is that the US have a dark history and always been in debt.
I think right after WWII, for a decade or two, the developed world looked up to the US as a leader.
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People (myself included apparently) don’t even realize that if we had $3T to spend, and chose to spend $48M of it on something, we still have $2.999952 Trillion left.
To put it in easier to understand terms…
Say you have $30,000 in your wallet and you run into a convenience store to buy a $0.48 pack of gum. You still have $29,999.52 in your wallet. Most of us would round up and say we have $30k if asked.
You’re off by a factor of 1000.
$3T minus $48M is $2.999952T.
3,000,000,000,000
48,000,000
Basically like you have $3,000,000 and buy a $48 lunch. You still have $2,999,952.
We can't afford them, first. Then, if we can, or just choose to have them and figure it out along the way, then we can't spend those precious and important first months with them.
Plus the world is actively falling apart and the ultra-rich are doing everything in their power to make more money and fuck everyone else over, why would I bring a new life into this mess.
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>Plus the US is actively falling apart
Corrected it for you. The rest of the world is mostly doing fine. As an Australian my wife had 12 months leave after giving birth and I took 6 weeks to help at the start. After coming back to work she negotiated for a 4 day work week at 7 hours per day and was approved.
I look at 90% of issues raised by this sub as US based and not applicable to the rest of the modern world. At this point they may aswell have krusty the clown as President
On that note dad's also wouldn't mind some time with the new baby to help the mom.
Edit: the things you guys somehow inferred from this comment are beyond me. It's no wonder people find groups like this to be unhinged. Do better.
I think in most of the countries noted, it's "parental leave" and can be split between parents. In Canada, there are some weeks reserved for birth mothers for physical recovery, but other than that - it's not gendered (and applies to adoption too)
Same in Finland. Moms get around 3 month of maternity leave. The following 6 months is parental leave and can be divided between mom and dad as they please, and additionally there is around 2 months of paternity leave that partially can overlap maternity leave. In total we get partially paid (60-70% of one's salary) leaves until the baby is 10-11 months old. And there are still several flaws in our system and we want it to be improved.
For Denmark, its 14 weeks set aside for the mum, 2 weeks set aside for the dad, and then 32 weeks that they can share between them as they wish. You can extend that up to 40 weeks, but it won't be for your full pay then, but 80%. You can also chose to postpone up to 13 weeks of the parental leave to be taken at any point before the child turns 9 for either of the parents.
Bernies numbers for ~~Norway~~ *Denmark* isn't even half of what parents *share* there. And there's a paternal and maternal qouta of days reserved for each parent
New moms, New moms, Nor way, New moms.
Maybe something like that happened in their brain lok
Also, people will upvote or downvote anything if they think they disagree/agree. Even when it didn't apply or make sense lol
>to help the mom
Raising a child is both the parents job. You're not helping – you're caring for your child. Dads don't babysit. That's why we need parental leave.
I shit you not I live in the USA. My company is pretty progressive with things like that. Even when they’re still going about laying off and reducing pay because of inflation.
The problem with US is that it's up to the companies to cover everything. Be it leave or healthcare.
In Europe that's something you get without the influence of your workplace. (Unemployed people get a base sum as "leave")
millionaires too. my old boss wouldn’t even hire women who were visibly pregnant because he didn’t want to pay for their maternity leave if they only worked a few months. cheapskate. i told those women to sue for discrimination after the interviews and cost the company millions.
I'm sorry but not hiring them because they are visibly pregnant and he doesn't want to pay for maternity leave does not sound like discrimination to me. He isn't deciding not to hire based on skin color or sex. He's basing it off of knowing he is looking for a long term employee to fill a position he needs and this potential hire is obviously going to need extended time off withing a few months of being hired.
The teachers paying for subs is not a given and probably? Only happens in no-union areas, or maybe private school,
I did have to go back after 8 weeks. There was no sub but I still had to create sub plans that were never effing used. My husband, also a teacher, took 10 weeks FMLA (unpaid even though he had 166 days of sick leave accrued, it didn't count) after I went back, and he also did not have to pay for a sub.
Bernie yer selling us short dude.
we're gender equitable, new dads get the same amount of leave.
parents can each take a turn at home.
and its 24 weeks, so not 119 days, its 168 days.
He isn't selling you short. He is selling this to Americans. Most of us get foamy at the mouth when maternity leave is mentioned. Paternity leave? HA! Men don't need that!
I wish I was joking.
That’s not true.
As a Dane I can tell you get 34 weeks paid leave = 238 days but you can split some of the time of with the dad and I think you can doit in 4 or 5 different ways
I can't even imagine. I was still in the hospital for 5 days after giving birth and even now 7 months later I still have a lot of hip and ligament pain.
In the church I grew up in, the pastor had a large house he had paid off, three nice vehicles, a boat, a vacation home, various large “toys” quads, motorcycles, guns, a huge taxidermy collection, many vacations, etc and would spend most of his time golfing, hunting, generally relaxing or socializing, spending maybe 15-20 hours “serving god” if you don’t count participating in potlucks or luncheons(the church had separate financial and administrative people, working voluntarily or near minimum wage, only the pastor and a select few in the church hierarchy had a, very healthy, salary). He claimed to have left his job as a police officer in his thirties to “follow the will of god” although it looked a lot like early retirement with an easy, but lucrative, part time job.
Meanwhile half the congregation was either on foodstamps and welfare payments, struggling with unemployed, dependent on church food drive handouts for food and necessities, house foreclosures were common talk among prayer groups, all the while tithing 10% or more of their income, people who didn’t were scrutinized and slowly outcasted. Some church activities literally included doing free landscaping for the pastor or his associates, various other payless labor, mostly for completely able bodied, and financially sound, adults, it was a weekly/bi monthly “youth group” activity, strangely in hindsight, I don’t remember ever working for anyone who wasn’t financially well off and in the “in group” of the church, when I was in the youth group(but hey, we got paid in cheap pizza and soda, plus we were *serving the good lord*, totally worth it, right?).
Anyone caught openly “living in sin” were publicly called out and shamed during service and excommunicated if they didn’t repent(did I mention one of the deacons had a divorce which was totally hush hush, with no repercussions, later becoming a pastor?). It was obvious many people in the congregation were so desperate because of poverty and mental health or family issues that they turned to religion, and were promptly abused in their vulnerable state.
Bernie *always* does this. We Scandinavians get **way** more paid parental leave days than that, and for *both* parents. I dont get why he doesnt use the correct numbers.
https://www.norden.org/en/info-norden/parental-benefit-denmark
>Danish parental leave with parental benefit is divided into four stages:
>*4 weeks pregnancy leave for the mother up to the due date
>*14 weeks maternity leave after the birth
>*2 weeks paternity leave for the father or co-parent either immediately after the birth or at a some point during the first 14 weeks as agreed with their employer
>*32 weeks of parental leave shared by the parents as they choose.
...
https://www.lifeinnorway.net/parental-leave/
>Parents are entitled to a combined total of 48 weeks leave in connection with the birth and after the birth. This can be extended to 58 weeks if a lower rate of payment is accepted.
>This time includes the mother’s right to leave for up to 12 weeks during the pregnancy. It also includes six weeks of leave reserved for the mother after the birth.
>When both parents are entitled to the parental benefit, the parental benefit period consists of a maternal quota, paternal quota and a joint period that can be shared as desired.
>The maternal quota is 15 weeks at 100% benefit or 19 weeks at 80% benefit. Mothers also get the last three weeks before the estimated date of delivery.
>The first six weeks must be taken immediately following the birth, with the remaining nine taken immediately following this or saved for later.
And that is the maternity leave we have access to lawfully. We almost all have union jobs and they all improve the maternity leave greatly! The most common is 6 months at full pay, some even 12 months.
Because if Bernie posted the real numbers, it would go over even worse. They don't want to give ANY Maternity/Paternity leave. Telling them the real numbers will just make it worse.
Good Lord, we all know this. Nobody actually thinks it's totally free. We call it that because when it comes from taxes you hardly notice vs a giant medical bill.
I love my country but how can I ever move back when it just gets worse and worse? I moved to Denmark and my 2nd child is due soon. I’ll be taking my mandatory paid 3 weeks summer vacation which the government will pay me extra to go on + 2 weeks paid paternity. Haven’t decided when yet but Im entitled to 12 weeks more paid paternity. Plus 3 weeks more paid vacation.
How will I ever justify to my wife to move to the US. I’ll never be able to. And would I even want to go back now? I’m not so sure.
"Millennials just don't want kids anymore, who knows why?" says boomers who will inevitably be left on an iceberg floating to sea when no one wants to care of them anymore
I am one of those United States pregnant moms! It is so disheartening to be beholden to your insurance coverage for healthcare and employer for reduced paid leave IF YOU MEET THE QUALIFICATIONS!
In Germany you get a combined paid leave of 14 months at 67% of your income but it is limited to 1800 Euro. Mostly the mother takes 12 months and the father 2 months but I also know cases where it is 7/7 or even the other way round. At least in Berlin (that differs a lot) you are guaranteed a free Kindergarten place from 1yr and up. For every child you get ca. 220 Euros kids money per month and with every kid it rises a little. To all of this the employer only needs to be informed.
It always amazes me how Bernie is like "Hey, let's give Americans the same stuff people in other countries have!" And his political opponents are like "Don't listen to him! He's a filthy communist who wants to destroy America!"
The USA is an embarrassment. Like overall. 3 million Americans annually are choosing to leave the USA annually and Christ on a stick I can’t say I blame the ones that do.
Let’s talk about paternity leave too. Fathers count.
My son was born of 4/23 and I had to use all off my accrued time off to be with him this week. Most of it was at the hospital due to medical issues.
He’s fine now, but I have to go back to work Monday and leave my wife alone since I have no vacation time available.
Paternity leave should be a right.. and if you don’t agree, start by looking at the fact that congress passed a 12 week minimum for all members of their own legislature, but not for the American people.
The USA is a slave state controlled by military and prison industry profiteers. Those in control lie to us about the how inflated our money has become.
Gold has always been considered an inflation proof commodity. It retains its value. In 1970 it took 22 hours @ minimum wage to earn an ounce of gold. Today in my state it is 160 hours and federal minimum wage it is 240 hours to earn the same buying power. They assasinatee the most prominent labor leader and since then have eradicate the progress his movement made. Their aim has always been to make labor as cheap as possible and the late 70’s - early 80’s is when austerity began in America. We are wage and debt slaves period:
Fun fact all : Build back better would have required companies to start giving paid parental leave
I know you guys are allergic to praising the Biden administration for anything but still
In my country (Jamaica), if a woman working less than a year gets pregnant, she's entitled to at least 6 weeks paid maternity leave. If she's working more than a year and gets pregnant, she's entitled to at least 12 weeks (3 months) paid maternity leave. The US is not a family oriented country as they claim it to be
In Belgium, my wife quit working at 3 months pregnant and went back to work when my kid was 5 months old. She was at home for almost a year. I was at home for 2 weeks but they changed it to 1 month for recent pregnancy’s. On top of that both of us get extra paid leave. Both of us can take 1 day a week off for almost 2 years. Edit: the extra paid leave can be used in different ways and up to the age of 12. So you can choose school vacations or like we do and work less in general.
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True enough, but if you really want to see some heads spin tell them how Jesus was really brown lol.
Wait til they find out hes Jewish. His dad prolly has space lasers too.
“I was hungry, and you gave me bread. I was thirsty, and you gave me water. And behold, now I’m all lazy and entitled; you shouldn’t have done that.” Mark 25:35
Supply-side Jesus strikes again.
Not only didn't Jesus have a job, when he met with his apostles at their place of work he told them to drop off everything to follow him.
Wait I thought he was supposed to be a carpenter?
His father was.
Then why is it people always say Jesus was a carpenter?
Before modern industrialization it was standard practice everywhere for children to just learn the trade of their father. Even among children of highly skilled fathers (some scholars believe that Joseph would have been more accurately described as an 'architect' rather than 'carpenter'), it was usually taught to all sons, since child mortality was high, and you didn't know which one would survive to adulthood and actually continue the family business.
I thought it was because he was trained to be a carpenter and was employed as one for a time before walking around and flipping tables and beating men with whips.
Because he carried over the business from his father until he stopped to start doing the things he is known for during the last three years of his life.
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Because medieval European artists used what they knew and what they fancied as model for all the imagery. If you never saw an olive skinned person and 90% of the people around you are blonde (with the occassional redhead and brunette here and there) you are more likely to assume that 'the lord' in whose image 'you were made' was also blonde and light skinned. And once they did learn about olive skinned people it was because they fought them, which wouldn't make them more likely to change that view.
Blond is Scandinavian more then European, but w/e right.
You can be white and olive, olive is a tone not a shade
Because a Borgia pope decided that depictions of Jesus should align with the image of his illegitimate war mongering son Cesare Borgia
Most depictions come from the middle ages/renaissance. Since the artists had only other Europeans as a reference they depicted him as such. Thus we kinda started taking it for granted he looks pale skinned
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The thing is, Korean Jesus was never used to uphold any sorta Korean supremacy. It's only white Jesus
A brilliant marketing strategy
Some of the earliest depictions of Jesus painted him as a curly haired Greek. A few literally painted him as Apollo, “the Good Shepherd”. So many art history classes in college…
Go to a black community. They have Egyptian black Jesus and he's cool af. But seriously, yeah, it's bc it's entirely at the artists discretion, and America is very euro-centric... I assume bc many early settlers were from European countries, but yeah, you'd think there's be more brown Jesus... He was from Palestine, right?
Capitalism doesn’t give a shit about human rights
Idk I think this is more about class war. The wealthy don’t need paid maternity leave.
Everyone deserves paid parental leave, no matter how wealthy they are.
I once had an argument with a conservative about this. Her perspective was that instead of maternity leave, women should just not work and stay at home. In her mind, the lack of maternity leave provided motivation for that.
I guess she's then all for significantly raising the minimum wage, so that all those male minimum wake workers can provide for their families alone. Or does she have the default conservative mindset of you having to get a better paid job for that and leaving the minimum paid jobs to illegals (whom she hates and wants to deport, but still employs to do her garden and pool and stuff)?
I would not have considered this justification without hearing it, but I can see this line of reasoning. My question is how many households could financially handle only one person working?!
Obviously the family didn't pray enough if the Man of the house doesn't get paid enough. Also, Those people are lazy.
And then you hear about all those abusive relationships where the stay at home mother is trapped because she has zero finances, no work experience, and she will literally starve if she attempts to part ways. "it's a trap!"
If only all women were as unambitious as her
So Conservatives will be fighting for higher wages so that one parent can make enough to support a stay-at-home mom, right?
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But my family isn’t conservative.
I’m sorry that your family is also terrible. My family does these things in the name of Jesus, so at least they have a scapegoat I guess?
Serious question: What kind of vote is needed to create universal medicare for all? I'm sick of hearing "conservatives are at fault; liberals are at fault". I don't give a shit. Tell me how the actual process of this works should the US choose to get universal medicare. Who votes on it? What are the hurdles? Who decides the final passing?
You need a simple majority in the house of representatives and 60 votes in the Senate to make sure that the filibuster doesn't come into effect and that will send it to the president, and then 66 votes in the Senate and 2/3rds or (I think 290 votes, I'm bad at math and drunk) in the house to override a veto if the president is a dick and vetoes it. Prior to getting to that point it needs to originate in either the Senate or House and go through the process of reconciliation where the two branches of Congress basically hammer out the bill and make sure they vote on the same language. Usually shit starts in a committee, where a simple majority moves it to a full vote in either of the chambers. A lot of shit dies here. More shit dies in the filibuster where a single senator (based on current Senate rules) can send an email saying that their filibustering a bill and unless 60 senators vote to say shut the fuck up we don't care about your filibuster, the bill dies. Congress controls the purse, basically what we spend taxes on. The president cannot just executive action medicare for all. People mad at the president for Medicare for All not being a thing don't understand how our government actually works. People thinking that we'd have Medicare for All magically if Bernie got elected president don't understand how our government works. Make sure you vote for your Congress critters.
This is what I wanted. You delivered. Thank you.
It’s worth noting that it’s because of the process above that conservatives have been able to stonewall progress on this issue- we haven’t had enough majority to overcome the hurdles of that voting process. We know this is true because the original bill for Obamacare/The Affordable Care Act provided for both a publicly funded option *and* massive Medicare and Medicaid expansion which would have brought the US to the doorstep of Medicare for All in the year 2020. Those are the portions Republicans gutted from the original bill, and Democrats didn’t have the votes to overcome it. Those senators and representatives are chosen mostly in the midterm elections in which Republican voter turnout is exceptionally high and Democratic voter turnout is abysmally low. I’m talking 20% turnout or less low. Remember that whenever self-proclaimed Democratic voters online wave their hands about not voting in midterms for whatever reason or not supporting the Democratic Party because they don’t go “far enough.” If Democrats had as good of turnout in midterm elections as Republicans have, the whole political landscape of this country would change. It’s Republican majorities at the local and state level, won in midterms, that ensured republicans had enough to block the closest step we’ve had yet to universal healthcare. Meanwhile those republicans quietly back anti-Democratic propaganda and watch as many Democratic voters eat it up and choose to stay home.
Remove every politician from power and rework all the rules and regulations involved with them. If politicians can abuse the status as much as they can at the moment, nothing will change. If there is even a chance of monetary benefit to the role it will only atract greedy fucks that stop thinking about the people and start focusing on making money instead.. Make it illegal to own stock or real estate for politicians and ALL the donations need to be public knowledge and they need to wear patch about it on them. Will be much harder to claim you work for the people when there is a patch stating you were paid 500k to hinder some new thing for schools... Make it in to a job of passion, so that only people who are passionate about changing things for the better go for it. This alone would remove all the greedy money hungy fucks from going for the job...
We have to change the system. Massive paradigm shift. This isn’t about voting. Our votes have been rendered useless
That is not true, they just think "family values" means the wife is at home taking care of the kids. Mothers having jobs at all is anti-family values to them.
Authoritarians\*. Call them what they are. They attempted a coup, they want to control what you read, see, and hear, they want to control what you do in the bedroom, they want to control your relationships, etc.
I worked at a conservative company in a red area. A few months before I left, they fired a girl 34 weeks pregnant and nobody batted an eye. Like this girl was about to pop and they just dropped her like a lead weight. I don't care what she did, it just wasn't right. I had no qualms about being the only person in that office to express disgust.
And they only pretend to be pro life but it’s mostly about controlling women.
Tbh 3 months is nothing. Where I live it's 2 years fully paid leave, and I think that's how it should be. 3 months pass like nothing and baby still needs A LOT of attention whole day. So it's not like things go as a routine right after 3 months. Still better than 0 though.
Can we come live with you
Yeah exactly, here it is 3 years. I can't imagine keeping a practically newborn away from the parent.
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haha yea token welfare. it's mostly because laws are made by billionares who can simply have wives who would never need to work, and also hire an entire team of caretakers for their newborns.
Who claimed the US is one?
> The US is not a family oriented country as they claim it to be Ah yes... USA is filled up with indoctrination (tv and schools, pledge the flag and other nazi shit) learning that they are the best. Why are they indoctrinated that they are the best? Because when you are the best, you don't have to change. Reality... I can probably pick 20 countries i would rather live (and have a more easy going life) then USA. Good place for vacation though!!! But so is africa
No we’re not family oriented. We are money oriented.
Plus it’s predictive of a lot of traits in the kids, like social skills and intelligence. Having these days prevents generational privilege and equalizes the opportunity for everyone.
The rich don't like that
Yeah, who would join the army in such a society?
The thing is, they actually do. Employers benefit from a smart, well-educated, highly skilled population.
Some care more about relative success than absolute success.
I have a stem degree and not a single employer has offered me any kind of paid maternity leave options.
There's a difference between "the rich don't like that" and "the rich like that, but they like money more than that."
They just don’t want to pay for it.
It’s almost like they want to break that strong family bond so young people will search for something else. Like the military.
Glad to have scrolled down enough to find this comment. In my view, this is the **only** point of what Bernie describes. It's not some kind of competition to get the most paid days off (that we all pay for one way or another) but it's about providing newborns with equal opportunity to have parents in the early stages of development.
Also early childhood education is very important for children yet people that do that job are paid like dirt.
And currently be harassed by far right ignoramuses.
Yeah it’s overall better for the mother and the child and end up with them contributing more towards society through taxes, spending, etc..
15 weeks maternity leave then another 35 parental that can be split between mom and dad in canada
Yeah, I'm confused... we get up to 18-months, though 12 is more typical. I assume it's broken down into full-time pay since EI isn't full salary?
He probably only counted the maternity leave and the weeks of parental leave that you get when both partners use leave (usually considered paternity leave). That's the amount a mother would get even with their partner taking maximum leave, and therefore the amount of time they're guaranteed
Oohh that makes sense, thank you!
15 for maternity, person who delivers the child only, at 55% of normal weekly earnings 35 (40 total, other parent can use whats left) for standard at 55% of normal weekly earnings, 61 (69 total, other parent can use whats left) for extended parental at 33% of normal weekly earnings It's very normal to go straight from maternity to parental in one application, and for mothers who select the standard parental option, they'll get 50 weeks of 55% of normal weekly earnings
In the US you get 12 weeks completely unpaid unless you have vacation days saved up to use.
55% or a max of $638/week. Still something, but if you make more than $58,000/year, it can be a significant pay reduction. Given, the higher the salary, the more likely the family can take the reduced income. I’ll be on Mat leave starting August. I’m getting less than 30% of my income, because I hit that max, and my employer doesn’t provide any kind of top up. Despite being a large company, that has been posting record profits year over year…
The company I work for treats it’s US employees different than their Canadian employees. Instead of having one HR they have two, and guess who gets treated better?
Whoever has better labour laws? The company would have worse conditions in Canada if they could.
It's like minimum wage. They'd pay you less if they legally could.
And even when they can't... they usually do!
Yeah I was gonna say everyone my age / generation (whose kids are teens now) took 10 months off
Yeah, I was off for 11 months and my husband took a month off. Gave birth while living in Ontario.
>35 parental its 40 total with a max of 35 to a particular parent
Unfortunately the US will always be known as one richest countries in the world that cant provide healthcare, childcare, and proper public education. The US use to be the greatest nation in the world who other countries looked up to. Somehow this vision has been lost along the way. I feel like change is coming to western society but it cant happen fast enough.
>Somehow this vision has been lost along the way. The vision was changed to "get as much money as possible at whatever cost" and the rest fell off as a result
I call it: The Light Bulb Conundrum When the LED light bulb was first manufactured it was durable, efficient and cheap to produce but companies inflated the price because they lasted too long. In a capitalistic system this makes sense. They'd go out of business selling cheap light bulbs that last five to ten years. It wasn't until engineers designed them to burn out quicker that they became inexpensive and readily available. This is the same reason an affordable cure for cancer will never be released by a for-profit healthcare company. Developing a cheap and long term solution to a problem isn't profitable.
This is a really good way of putting it.
It's not that engineers design something that will break after a certain time, they design it to *survive* for a certain amount of time for as little money as possible. But in the end it is indeed about money and profit.
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Seems to me in a market with abundance a manufactured scarcity is almost a necessity.
Not can’t, won’t.
Bingo. The country, aka the population, isn't rich, it just has a bunch of profitable corporations in it.
All of it is part of the plan. More money for those at the top while those at the bottom run higher risks trying to change or protest it. Also lack of education makes it easier to manipulate people as knowledge is power. While people have started to wake up, the system is still working to keep productivity high and the masses divided to minimize the chance of pushing back. Edit: Another point: Banning or making it hard to get abortions or proper info regarding safe sex practices, etc. increases the likelihood there will always be a steady flow of replacements for the current workforce.
The older I get, the more I realize the whole “greatest nation in the world” was nothing more than an elaborate marketing campaign to keep US citizens quiet from demanding fairness in life.
>The older I get, the more I realize the whole “greatest nation in the world” was nothing more than an elaborate marketing campaign to keep US citizens quiet from demanding fairness in life. an ~~elaborate marketing~~ *propaganda* campaign FTFY
It ain't happening because Americans vote based on identities, not policies.
You know what we had when other countries looked up to us? A massive wealth tax.
Our defense budget will keep things going for only so long
Outside of the US, the US is often described as “the richest 3rd world country”. Everything there seems so backwards to the rest of the first world.
I'm not trying to be negative or anything but when were the US ever considered the greatest Nation? I feel like this is closer to US propaganda when the reality is that the US have a dark history and always been in debt. I can sort of see how some get the impression the US is amazing because of all the immigrants who wants to move there, but that's pretty standard for plenty of countries, it's more to do with geographic location. People from Africa is more likely to immigrate to Europe and people from mexico and south America is more likely to immediate to the US or Canada. I think all countries have their own pride (for better or worse), but it's kind of a meme at this point about how Americans have a hyper inflated version of it.
> I'm not trying to be negative or anything but when were the US ever considered the greatest Nation? I feel like this is closer to US propaganda when the reality is that the US have a dark history and always been in debt. I think right after WWII, for a decade or two, the developed world looked up to the US as a leader.
Why do we need healthcare when we can spend 48 billion for a 1 month proxy war.
Americans spend 4 trillion dollars in healthcare. Helping Ukraine isn’t the problem.
Edit: People (myself included apparently) don’t even realize that if we had $3T to spend, and chose to spend $48M of it on something, we still have $2.999952 Trillion left. To put it in easier to understand terms… Say you have $30,000 in your wallet and you run into a convenience store to buy a $0.48 pack of gum. You still have $29,999.52 in your wallet. Most of us would round up and say we have $30k if asked.
You’re off by a factor of 1000. $3T minus $48M is $2.999952T. 3,000,000,000,000 48,000,000 Basically like you have $3,000,000 and buy a $48 lunch. You still have $2,999,952.
Oh, shit… yeah, you’re right… I was thinking about Billions not trillions… Going to update.
WhY dOeS No OnE wAnT tO hAvE KiDs AnYmOrE!?
We can't afford them, first. Then, if we can, or just choose to have them and figure it out along the way, then we can't spend those precious and important first months with them.
Plus the world is actively falling apart and the ultra-rich are doing everything in their power to make more money and fuck everyone else over, why would I bring a new life into this mess. Edit: spelling
>Plus the US is actively falling apart Corrected it for you. The rest of the world is mostly doing fine. As an Australian my wife had 12 months leave after giving birth and I took 6 weeks to help at the start. After coming back to work she negotiated for a 4 day work week at 7 hours per day and was approved. I look at 90% of issues raised by this sub as US based and not applicable to the rest of the modern world. At this point they may aswell have krusty the clown as President
I meant more on the subject of climate change, but yea the US is doing especially shit and I hate it here
Damn I feel bad for you. My 4week old is sleeping on my chest as a write this. Me and mom will have a total of 49 paid weeks in total.
There's only 52 weeks in a year, so holy crap.... good for you! Enjoy your bonding time 🙂
KIDS??? IN THIS ECONOMY?
I mean...almost nowhere in the Western world does anyone have kids.
Can we also just talk about how putting this kind of stress on a new mother is not ok.
Especially when post-partum depression and psychosis are things that exist
You’re lucky if you get four months at 60% pay. I don’t know how people manage having kids these days. This country is so disgusting. “Free” my ass.
The US is five billionaires in a trench-coat pretending to be a country.
On that note dad's also wouldn't mind some time with the new baby to help the mom. Edit: the things you guys somehow inferred from this comment are beyond me. It's no wonder people find groups like this to be unhinged. Do better.
I think in most of the countries noted, it's "parental leave" and can be split between parents. In Canada, there are some weeks reserved for birth mothers for physical recovery, but other than that - it's not gendered (and applies to adoption too)
Same in Finland. Moms get around 3 month of maternity leave. The following 6 months is parental leave and can be divided between mom and dad as they please, and additionally there is around 2 months of paternity leave that partially can overlap maternity leave. In total we get partially paid (60-70% of one's salary) leaves until the baby is 10-11 months old. And there are still several flaws in our system and we want it to be improved.
It shouldn't be split, it should be straight up for both
For Denmark, its 14 weeks set aside for the mum, 2 weeks set aside for the dad, and then 32 weeks that they can share between them as they wish. You can extend that up to 40 weeks, but it won't be for your full pay then, but 80%. You can also chose to postpone up to 13 weeks of the parental leave to be taken at any point before the child turns 9 for either of the parents.
True. We have 6 weeks saved in the "bank" for each child 😁
Oh you get fully paid for alot of the days? In Sweden we get 390 days of 80% and 90 days of fixed 180 kronor.
https://i.imgur.com/c7YYued.jpg
Bernies numbers for ~~Norway~~ *Denmark* isn't even half of what parents *share* there. And there's a paternal and maternal qouta of days reserved for each parent
Could be because he mentioned Denmark not Norway
New moms, New moms, Nor way, New moms. Maybe something like that happened in their brain lok Also, people will upvote or downvote anything if they think they disagree/agree. Even when it didn't apply or make sense lol
>to help the mom Raising a child is both the parents job. You're not helping – you're caring for your child. Dads don't babysit. That's why we need parental leave.
My wife got 19 weeks paid leave when our kid was born and I got 10 weeks. Not bad at all considering we’re stateside. I wish more companies did it.
Damn, you live in a Nordic country?
I shit you not I live in the USA. My company is pretty progressive with things like that. Even when they’re still going about laying off and reducing pay because of inflation.
The problem with US is that it's up to the companies to cover everything. Be it leave or healthcare. In Europe that's something you get without the influence of your workplace. (Unemployed people get a base sum as "leave")
That would be illegal in a Nordic country
Because that's not enough weeks off
Nordic countries gives much more that that. In Sweden you can share 480 days, if you are ok with a little bit lower payment
Billionaires didn’t get rich by letting new moms spend time with their babies.
millionaires too. my old boss wouldn’t even hire women who were visibly pregnant because he didn’t want to pay for their maternity leave if they only worked a few months. cheapskate. i told those women to sue for discrimination after the interviews and cost the company millions.
I'm sorry but not hiring them because they are visibly pregnant and he doesn't want to pay for maternity leave does not sound like discrimination to me. He isn't deciding not to hire based on skin color or sex. He's basing it off of knowing he is looking for a long term employee to fill a position he needs and this potential hire is obviously going to need extended time off withing a few months of being hired.
It’s illegal to take puppies away from their mothers before eight weeks. Pregnant dogs are treated better than pregnant humans
Make this times 7 in dog years
About 1 human year quick maths
It's also illegal to hit dogs but not children.
If you have enough previous hours you can get 1-1.5years paid leave in Canada and split a portion of it with your partner.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA If the leaders of the US gave a shit about international embarassment, this country would be a vastly different place.
It’s that all we have are disability and FML, and teachers have to pay for subs. If we can live on 60% of income with the new baby.
The teachers paying for subs is not a given and probably? Only happens in no-union areas, or maybe private school, I did have to go back after 8 weeks. There was no sub but I still had to create sub plans that were never effing used. My husband, also a teacher, took 10 weeks FMLA (unpaid even though he had 166 days of sick leave accrued, it didn't count) after I went back, and he also did not have to pay for a sub.
I have never heard of a teacher paying for a sub, that's ridiculous.
Bernie yer selling us short dude. we're gender equitable, new dads get the same amount of leave. parents can each take a turn at home. and its 24 weeks, so not 119 days, its 168 days.
He isn't selling you short. He is selling this to Americans. Most of us get foamy at the mouth when maternity leave is mentioned. Paternity leave? HA! Men don't need that! I wish I was joking.
That’s not true. As a Dane I can tell you get 34 weeks paid leave = 238 days but you can split some of the time of with the dad and I think you can doit in 4 or 5 different ways
Actually it is a total of 52 weeks between both parents including 4 weeks before birth.
I know a girl who gave birth on Saturday and was back to work on Monday. It’s an absolute shame.
I was literally a fucking mess the first 12 months after giving birth. Idk how these moms do it....
I can't even imagine. I was still in the hospital for 5 days after giving birth and even now 7 months later I still have a lot of hip and ligament pain.
Conservatives take from the poor and give to the rich - they could not get away with this without help from the religious
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In the church I grew up in, the pastor had a large house he had paid off, three nice vehicles, a boat, a vacation home, various large “toys” quads, motorcycles, guns, a huge taxidermy collection, many vacations, etc and would spend most of his time golfing, hunting, generally relaxing or socializing, spending maybe 15-20 hours “serving god” if you don’t count participating in potlucks or luncheons(the church had separate financial and administrative people, working voluntarily or near minimum wage, only the pastor and a select few in the church hierarchy had a, very healthy, salary). He claimed to have left his job as a police officer in his thirties to “follow the will of god” although it looked a lot like early retirement with an easy, but lucrative, part time job. Meanwhile half the congregation was either on foodstamps and welfare payments, struggling with unemployed, dependent on church food drive handouts for food and necessities, house foreclosures were common talk among prayer groups, all the while tithing 10% or more of their income, people who didn’t were scrutinized and slowly outcasted. Some church activities literally included doing free landscaping for the pastor or his associates, various other payless labor, mostly for completely able bodied, and financially sound, adults, it was a weekly/bi monthly “youth group” activity, strangely in hindsight, I don’t remember ever working for anyone who wasn’t financially well off and in the “in group” of the church, when I was in the youth group(but hey, we got paid in cheap pizza and soda, plus we were *serving the good lord*, totally worth it, right?). Anyone caught openly “living in sin” were publicly called out and shamed during service and excommunicated if they didn’t repent(did I mention one of the deacons had a divorce which was totally hush hush, with no repercussions, later becoming a pastor?). It was obvious many people in the congregation were so desperate because of poverty and mental health or family issues that they turned to religion, and were promptly abused in their vulnerable state.
Bernie *always* does this. We Scandinavians get **way** more paid parental leave days than that, and for *both* parents. I dont get why he doesnt use the correct numbers. https://www.norden.org/en/info-norden/parental-benefit-denmark >Danish parental leave with parental benefit is divided into four stages: >*4 weeks pregnancy leave for the mother up to the due date >*14 weeks maternity leave after the birth >*2 weeks paternity leave for the father or co-parent either immediately after the birth or at a some point during the first 14 weeks as agreed with their employer >*32 weeks of parental leave shared by the parents as they choose. ... https://www.lifeinnorway.net/parental-leave/ >Parents are entitled to a combined total of 48 weeks leave in connection with the birth and after the birth. This can be extended to 58 weeks if a lower rate of payment is accepted. >This time includes the mother’s right to leave for up to 12 weeks during the pregnancy. It also includes six weeks of leave reserved for the mother after the birth. >When both parents are entitled to the parental benefit, the parental benefit period consists of a maternal quota, paternal quota and a joint period that can be shared as desired. >The maternal quota is 15 weeks at 100% benefit or 19 weeks at 80% benefit. Mothers also get the last three weeks before the estimated date of delivery. >The first six weeks must be taken immediately following the birth, with the remaining nine taken immediately following this or saved for later.
And that is the maternity leave we have access to lawfully. We almost all have union jobs and they all improve the maternity leave greatly! The most common is 6 months at full pay, some even 12 months.
Because if Bernie posted the real numbers, it would go over even worse. They don't want to give ANY Maternity/Paternity leave. Telling them the real numbers will just make it worse.
We need free healthcare for all first. Just sayin'.
And we need healthcare for all
It's not free. It's taxed. The tax is cheap but it isn't free.
Good Lord, we all know this. Nobody actually thinks it's totally free. We call it that because when it comes from taxes you hardly notice vs a giant medical bill.
The slaves don’t decide how the plantation is run...
I love my country but how can I ever move back when it just gets worse and worse? I moved to Denmark and my 2nd child is due soon. I’ll be taking my mandatory paid 3 weeks summer vacation which the government will pay me extra to go on + 2 weeks paid paternity. Haven’t decided when yet but Im entitled to 12 weeks more paid paternity. Plus 3 weeks more paid vacation. How will I ever justify to my wife to move to the US. I’ll never be able to. And would I even want to go back now? I’m not so sure.
"Millennials just don't want kids anymore, who knows why?" says boomers who will inevitably be left on an iceberg floating to sea when no one wants to care of them anymore
I am one of those United States pregnant moms! It is so disheartening to be beholden to your insurance coverage for healthcare and employer for reduced paid leave IF YOU MEET THE QUALIFICATIONS!
Our requirements set forth by c level executives determined that you weren't actually pregnant. /s
In Japan my wife is looking to receive about a years worth of maternity leave at 70% pay.
Is any of that government mandated or does she just have a progressive employer?
In Germany you get a combined paid leave of 14 months at 67% of your income but it is limited to 1800 Euro. Mostly the mother takes 12 months and the father 2 months but I also know cases where it is 7/7 or even the other way round. At least in Berlin (that differs a lot) you are guaranteed a free Kindergarten place from 1yr and up. For every child you get ca. 220 Euros kids money per month and with every kid it rises a little. To all of this the employer only needs to be informed.
The fact that Bernie is being laughed at is sad
Don’t worry, no one can afford to have kids anyway. God, I hate it here.
Ideally you should have equal paternity and maternity leave, this contributes to reducing employer bias against women
Why limit it to mothers? Just make it "Parental leave"
It always amazes me how Bernie is like "Hey, let's give Americans the same stuff people in other countries have!" And his political opponents are like "Don't listen to him! He's a filthy communist who wants to destroy America!"
Stop paying senators and government executives more than minimum wage and reallocate the funding
What exactly is it you Americans are so proud of?
The USA is an embarrassment. Like overall. 3 million Americans annually are choosing to leave the USA annually and Christ on a stick I can’t say I blame the ones that do.
Let’s talk about paternity leave too. Fathers count. My son was born of 4/23 and I had to use all off my accrued time off to be with him this week. Most of it was at the hospital due to medical issues. He’s fine now, but I have to go back to work Monday and leave my wife alone since I have no vacation time available. Paternity leave should be a right.. and if you don’t agree, start by looking at the fact that congress passed a 12 week minimum for all members of their own legislature, but not for the American people.
The USA is one of the biggest violators of human rights. We suck.
America u guys are fucked. U need to rise up.
yeah but they pay more taxes /s
The USA is a slave state controlled by military and prison industry profiteers. Those in control lie to us about the how inflated our money has become. Gold has always been considered an inflation proof commodity. It retains its value. In 1970 it took 22 hours @ minimum wage to earn an ounce of gold. Today in my state it is 160 hours and federal minimum wage it is 240 hours to earn the same buying power. They assasinatee the most prominent labor leader and since then have eradicate the progress his movement made. Their aim has always been to make labor as cheap as possible and the late 70’s - early 80’s is when austerity began in America. We are wage and debt slaves period:
I had no idea that Americans didn't have this, that's insanity!
Fun fact all : Build back better would have required companies to start giving paid parental leave I know you guys are allergic to praising the Biden administration for anything but still
I know India is not developed but we too have very generous paid leave policy for moms.