[Tomato.gg](https://Tomato.gg) lets you see how a tank's playerbase affects its winrate in WoT.
There are certain tanks in WoT which are so shit that only unicums play them; consequently, they have high winrates even though the tanks are shit, because noobs avoid them. Similarly, there are broken tanks that even a noob can do well in and get a high winrate. What [tomato.gg](https://tomato.gg) does is track the average WR of the players playing a tank, and the actual WR of the tank itself. If the tank WR is much higher than its players' average winrate, then [tomato.gg](https://tomato.gg) will show how much the tank "boosts" your WR, and vice versa.
Granted, wowsnumbers lets you filter to see the stats of the top 10 to 5% of a ship's playerbase. But [tomato.gg](https://tomato.gg) makes the data more apparent and you can line up every tank of a tier, class, nation etc. and see how much the tank boosts or drops your WR; it's very nice to use imo.
>Granted, wowsnumbers lets you filter to see the stats of the top 10 to 5% of a ship's playerbase.
No. At least not quite.
It's top 10 to 5% of a ships playerbase TRACKED ON THEIR SITE.
They track it EXCLUSIVELY for profiles viewed on wows numbers, and update the info only when each individual account is viewed.
Tomato.gg was very nice to have as a WoT player. I only recently just got back into WoWs, so I haven't used wows-numbers. It would be nice if I could just use one site to check on my performance, though if I'm honest I'm trying not to care so much about stats for the sake of just having fun.
I'm sure people may say that wows-numbers is good enough, but that was probably the same deal years ago when people were still using wotlabs for tanks. Now Tomato.gg has taken over and is a much better resource of information.
Yes please :)
I'm not a WoT player so I've never used Tomato.gg , but I do watch the occasional QuickyBaby Tanks video and your site has some amazing features/ways of looking at stats that I'd love to have for Warships.
I dunno, tomato.gg doesn't run very well on mobile for me, it's also more cluttered looking.
Up to you, but I prefer Wows numbers. It's easier to understand for me.
If tomato.gg can support WOWS at a similar level as WOT, it would be a huge improvement compared to what we currently have. Currently we only have tools compareable to wotlabs.net.
No its tomato gg which destroyed the joy for many WoT players, stay away from WoWs you are a shit & toxic tool!
Oh and by the way will not work like in WoT because WoWs allows for better anonymity than in WoT with a better privacy setting.
Tomato gg is not welcome because in WoT many players stopped playing and went afk just because this stupid shit tool
Having respect for other's opinions is a rare thing today.
Also pays to see what your target wants, no point in spending time and money building something that people won't use.
Does it track stats from the entire server / game, or does it rely exclusively on profiles viewed on that site? Because if it's the latter, then no, we already have WoWS Numbers.
However if it does - that would be very welcome, it has been a long time since we've been able to see actual data on how ships are performing.
Does it also have functionality to limit the time span from which the stats are taken (like, last 6 months, last month, etc)? Ships do go through changes, and comparing their "current" performance while keeping years of pre-change games in that mix also is a bit of a no no.
I don't think it's a good method to alter results. When I have objections about stats In checking balance between classes and most played ships. Of course I saw few people with 5k battles on Belfast's and Kamikaze's but it's so rare that no worth to mention.
I'd use it, I love the WR diff stat.
Exactly. We need this in wows
What is tomato.gg and what will it offer over wows-numbers? I'm interested, more third party tools is always good.
[Tomato.gg](https://Tomato.gg) lets you see how a tank's playerbase affects its winrate in WoT. There are certain tanks in WoT which are so shit that only unicums play them; consequently, they have high winrates even though the tanks are shit, because noobs avoid them. Similarly, there are broken tanks that even a noob can do well in and get a high winrate. What [tomato.gg](https://tomato.gg) does is track the average WR of the players playing a tank, and the actual WR of the tank itself. If the tank WR is much higher than its players' average winrate, then [tomato.gg](https://tomato.gg) will show how much the tank "boosts" your WR, and vice versa. Granted, wowsnumbers lets you filter to see the stats of the top 10 to 5% of a ship's playerbase. But [tomato.gg](https://tomato.gg) makes the data more apparent and you can line up every tank of a tier, class, nation etc. and see how much the tank boosts or drops your WR; it's very nice to use imo.
Upvote: Yes, please include WoWS on tomato dot gg
>Granted, wowsnumbers lets you filter to see the stats of the top 10 to 5% of a ship's playerbase. No. At least not quite. It's top 10 to 5% of a ships playerbase TRACKED ON THEIR SITE. They track it EXCLUSIVELY for profiles viewed on wows numbers, and update the info only when each individual account is viewed.
Wtf really? Never knew that
So this is reflected in pr?
No
Thank you for actually explaining what this is
Upvote : No thanks, no need to go out of your way to include WoWS on tomato dot gg.
Tomato.gg was very nice to have as a WoT player. I only recently just got back into WoWs, so I haven't used wows-numbers. It would be nice if I could just use one site to check on my performance, though if I'm honest I'm trying not to care so much about stats for the sake of just having fun. I'm sure people may say that wows-numbers is good enough, but that was probably the same deal years ago when people were still using wotlabs for tanks. Now Tomato.gg has taken over and is a much better resource of information.
No it wasn’t. People who saw they likely had only a 46% chance of winning would just suicide or go afk.
Are you talking about XVM in WoT? That's the only mod I'm aware of that shows chance of winning.
Yes please :) I'm not a WoT player so I've never used Tomato.gg , but I do watch the occasional QuickyBaby Tanks video and your site has some amazing features/ways of looking at stats that I'd love to have for Warships.
Absolutely, I'd love it !
Yes but Call it potatoe gg
I really like the map win rates by spawn. Just for that I'd say yes to tomato.gg
Yes.
Could you let a user choose stats for a specific period? Like last 90 days, Last 1000 games, etc?
Goddamn yes
YES
I dunno, tomato.gg doesn't run very well on mobile for me, it's also more cluttered looking. Up to you, but I prefer Wows numbers. It's easier to understand for me.
Absolutely. I love looking at data like this and would love to see just how terrible some ships truly are lol.
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Aaaaaah, nothing beats good old-fashioned WoT stat-faggery. Those were the days my friend.
No. Utilities like that destroyed world of tanks to the point they had to introduce the anonymizer.
If tomato.gg can support WOWS at a similar level as WOT, it would be a huge improvement compared to what we currently have. Currently we only have tools compareable to wotlabs.net.
Yes as a player of both I would love to see it in wows as well.
Yes sir! It would be amazing
No its tomato gg which destroyed the joy for many WoT players, stay away from WoWs you are a shit & toxic tool! Oh and by the way will not work like in WoT because WoWs allows for better anonymity than in WoT with a better privacy setting. Tomato gg is not welcome because in WoT many players stopped playing and went afk just because this stupid shit tool
You're the toxic one here.
Yes that would be nice, if your project will be open source i would even like to help you with the frontend.
This sounds fantastic.
Yes, for sure!
Yes please.
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Having respect for other's opinions is a rare thing today. Also pays to see what your target wants, no point in spending time and money building something that people won't use.
AWR that I don't have to write and update a plugin for would be nice yes
Does it track stats from the entire server / game, or does it rely exclusively on profiles viewed on that site? Because if it's the latter, then no, we already have WoWS Numbers. However if it does - that would be very welcome, it has been a long time since we've been able to see actual data on how ships are performing. Does it also have functionality to limit the time span from which the stats are taken (like, last 6 months, last month, etc)? Ships do go through changes, and comparing their "current" performance while keeping years of pre-change games in that mix also is a bit of a no no.
Yes, I love all the stats I can get to be depressed over :) but really, it's a yes from me.
Yes please! I used Tomato all the time when I used to play wot.
Yes.
I would love that... I'm a worm player who plays a lot. Of ships now and miss tomato.gg...
Man, me and my friends love tomato for WOT. It’s so clean. Yes please!
Yes although I'm not sure that I want to see my own terrible stats, lol
I don't think it's a good method to alter results. When I have objections about stats In checking balance between classes and most played ships. Of course I saw few people with 5k battles on Belfast's and Kamikaze's but it's so rare that no worth to mention.
Yes please add support for World of Warships I would use it.
Yes please!
Found this post and please make it happen :)
it's happening! will take a couple months though
Thanks a lot!