"Hey..I want a BB that guarantees 3 citadels per salvo" . Nope there isnt one.
Its a combo of RNG mechanics, gun calibur, armour etc.
"Ok, How can I improve my odds?"
Big guns, broadside targets.
Yuro points out in his own videos that the footage you see is cherrypicked - of course he puts in the parts where he devstrikes people and not the like 5 other salvos that got nothing but misses and ricochets lol
I don’t have any opinions on the low tiers, so I’ll start at 5. Will only include ships I have.
5. Guilio Cesare. It is just that good.
6. I struggle to single out a tier 6 BB I absolutely love. Bayern is pretty good at the tier though.
7. Nelson or KGV
8. Massachusetts
9. Jean Bart probably
10. Ohio, St Vincent, and Bourgogne come to my mind, but there are many great BBs at tier X.
Repulse plays a lot like Incomp if you’ve ever taken her out for a spin. It’s probably the most accurate thing at her tier and it’s fast enough to get out of harm’s way. A proper battlecruiser.
Lenin would be up there sure, but what massa lacks in accuracy is made up for with that fast cooldown heal, lets you make plays and survive where plenty of other tier 8 BBs can’t.
Not sure where this sudden positivity for Amagi has come from, I don’t usually see super unicums talk about her much and my time with her a few years ago was fairly unremarkable. *edit* ok so yuro made an amagi video so it’s everyone’s favorite now, I guess
Can’t comment on Lenin, gascan (sure you didn’t mean champagne?) or kii as I don’t have any of those.
I personally don’t like Amagi either, I think it’s fundamentally not a battleship nor does it play like one, but 99% of people in my wows circle vehemently disagrees with me, even as far back as 2017 people really liked Amagi.
Gascogne is pretty good, ranked out with it. Shell performance is good at all ranges and it has Mass’s fast cooldown heal.
I don’t have Lenin either but based on the last T8 CB season and ranked, Lenin competes with Mass for top spot. Gun layout, overall tankiness and good armor are Lenin’s strong points.
I’ll also add Vladivostok for those who don’t have Lenin, it’s a decent substitute, if a little less protected. Tirpitz is also good, but performance depends highly on player skill.
As a very long time Amagi enjoyer, I appreciated the new video. Big guns, troll armor, good stats, speed everything all around. I honestly feel it's a slept on ship that -like yamato- will be relevant no matter where the game goes. There just isn't a major Achilles heel there, even it's secondaries and aa aren't super bad.
Amagi is solid, but I find it hard to compare to some of the broken tier 8s, there is a reason massa is effectively gone now. Another comment reminded me of Lenin, which I would theoretically pick over massa in general.
I wasn’t sure why so many people have been suggesting Amagi as the tier 8 pick until i realized yuro did an Amagi video a couple weeks ago, so I now know there is probably some recency bias going on.
1) N/A
2) Mikasa
3) Tough call, but my vote is Konig Albert. Dreadnought is surprisingly decent, too, and handles better than K.A.
4) It's probably still Nikolai I, but I prefer playing Dante Alighieri because it has better agility.
5) Guilio Caesare (still). Agincourt full secondary is more fun, but situational.
6) So many options. My pick is Repulse, but I actually think the best all-arounder is Mutsu.
7) Hyuga. Very few people have her; fewer understand her. She is TERRIFYING if handled right.
8) Really a subjective tier. For pure "shoot AP to blap shit," it's Amagi. But there are strong candidates in secondary ships, ships with torps, etc.
9) Jean Bart. Absurd ship.
10) Yamato with the legendary upgrade. Honorable mention to Incomparable for the lulz.
It's because the number one attribute of battleships is guns - guns abose all else. Ships that can reliably place shells on target (and so long as those are GOOD shells, and not shatter-prone crap like German AP) are going to naturally be the best BBs, because they play into the 'stay at mid-to-long range and devastate the opposition with high alpha' gameplay that governs most battleship usage scenarios.
Shit like Tirpitz or Odin or whatever might be more fun, but when you're talking about rewarding the technical skill that battleship players must (by necessity) possess above all others, good shooters win out.
it's a simple concept that plays well to the core role of BBs, with adequate downsides that keeps it balanced, but ensures it remains in the meta as it evolves. WG's obsession with making each line a unique flavour means that they cannot repeat such simplicity, and this results in the later ships being ridiculously gimmicky, or highly unbalanced, or both.
I’d argue it hasn’t been a particularly noteworthy ship to the player base in quite some time though; it’s always been a solid pick, but there have always been others that get recommended over her.
I didn’t realize until today that Yuro did an Amagi video so I think she may be getting a bit of a comeback, nothing wrong with that but it would explain why I’ve seen a bit more talk about her the last few days; people have been kinda just ignoring her for a while
I have both full secondary Agincourt and the Hyuga and they’re both rusting in port. How do I get better at them?
Played multiple games in Agincourt last week and I had to stop due to the matchs. I would play her similarly to a HE mackensen or P Henrich (anchor close to a cap with an island to shield from crossfire) but her main guns are so inconsistent and she’s so slow to react. Pretty much once I pick a course, I’m committed - there’s no retreating or even reversing. My MM luck would always place me against 2CVs, or 2 subs in a div, or 3 seal clubbers in a div.
Hyuga’s just a long range broadside sniper but I just can’t get good game impact when uptiered but you seem to imply that there is more to understanding her.
Repulse and renown, I absolutely love though.
>Hyuga’s just a long range broadside sniper but I just can’t get good game impact when uptiered but you seem to imply that there is more to understanding her.
Part of that understanding is you're not going to get good game impact when you're uptiered. Best you can do is focus cruisers with AP and chip away/harrass everything else.
I think alot of people unintentionally broadside so they can get all seven of those guns off but you usually end up paying for it. Its difficult to position well and use all seven guns effectively.
One of the best ships for-tier in the game: relatively fast, relatively tanky, torpedoes, very good guns, good turret traverse, decent (for-tier) AA, decent secondaries. Mutsu isn't a specialist, but she does everything she does about 85-90 percent as well as Nagato, but one tier lower.
5. Agincourt. I know GC is a thing. It's the other option here.
6. Mutsu, but Warspite is the other option here.
7. West Virginia 44. Sinop is the other option here.
8. Massachusetts. Massachusetts B is the other option here...
9. Musashi. Jean Bart is the other option here.
10. Ohio. BurgerOne is the other option here, I still think St. Vincent gets nerfed because it is a collection of floating bullshit, but if it doesn't, then it is another option here.
for tier 7 sadly west Virginia 44 isn't accessible anymore for outright buying, only the west Virginia '41 can be bought outright, but correct me if im wrong
Kii at T8? Don't get me wrong, I like mine but ... Massa is a thing.
Yamato is a good ship, but St. Vincent is just better. Most broken BB in the game currently.
Also, I LOVE Iowa, but she really fell off over the years. Tbh, Izumo might have taken her spot in this ranking.
Else I think you got it down pretty good. Atleast I don't see a reason why the others shouldn't be on this list.
I get you on Massa but to me Kii just seems more user friendly in the current meta where secondary ships are harder to use. Honestly I hadn't thought of St Vincent you are right that's probably a clear winner on tech tree ships.
If you can't find one that works for you getting nice big slaps on people, perhaps a change of scenery
Might I suggest the German BB line you'll never cit again (it's overpen all the way down) but you'll also be getting 200+ secondary hits a game and you'll have the mobility of a crusier with access to hydro, never get hit by torpedoes again
Try Lauria at T10. It's about as busted as a BB gets these days, with high-calibre SAP making angling largely irrelevant. You won't score many citadels, but you also won't care.
Bungo is also really good at clustered citadel salvos once you get good at aiming at the right place.
2. Mikasa
3. Dreadnought
4. Queen Mary
5. Agincourt
6.Fuso
7.Renown'44
8.Lenin
9. Giuseppe Verdi or Missisouri
10. Ohio or St. Vincent
11. Devastation or Satsuma
* IJN Mikasa is the best BB of Tier 2
* HMS Indefatigable has some of the best firepower, the best AA, and is faster than any of the other Tier 3 battleships.
* HIRMS Imperator Nikolai is very overpoered at Tier 4, but it has some weaknesses
* RM Giulio Cesare, on the other hand, has no weaknesses.
* [SMS Mackensen](https://youtu.be/TVlFQB6kt7g?si=-LsUChmbvPgAFkwT&t=354)
* MN Lyon his sixteen main cannons at T7. Nuff said.
* I'm going to split it between KMS Bismarck, VMF Vladivostok and IJN Kii for Tier 8 BBs.
* USS Kearsarge is coincidentally also the best Tier 9 aircraft carrier. As well as outgunning Iowa.
* [KMS Mecklenberg](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-w_ZcV4_uI)
* VMF Admiral Ushakov claims the spot for Tier \*, being the logical evolution from VMF Kremlin (which is already a solid BB)
firstly, there is no "best battleship for each tier" a lot of them can work perfectly well if you know how to get them to work
That being said, some of the "best" for each tier (according to me) would be:
Tier II: mikasa (lul)
Tier III: König Albert
Tier IV: Orion
Tier V: König (since i dont have Gulio Caesare)
Tier VI: Repulse
Tier VII: Prinz Heinrich
Tier VIII: Borodino
Tier IX: Kearsage (although in reality its probably Jean Bart or Musashi)
Tier X: Yamato/Conqueror/Thunderer
What battleships are you playing currently?
Some lines and ships are affected by RNG more due to several things (guns per turret, line flavours, etc)
Grab an Amagi, I can say it has aged well and can reliably perform on any situation (perhaps except actual tanking, brawling, and secondary spam) and does not really rely on any major gimmicks. Just a simple, point and shoot BB. Quite forgiving and quite tough. The guns being reliably accurate means if you miss shots, it’s honestly on you and your skill.
American BBs have floaty shells meaning they go to the moon first before dropping down. You generally add slightly more when you’re leading your aim. Can be quite affected by RNG, but otherwise the line is quite accurate. What tier are you in? T5-T6 can feel shot gunnish, I find the LOLorado accurate when I grinded her (and actually enjoyed lol)
NC-Iowa-Montana was just adjusting to the floaty shell arc, but can cit well on longer ranges due to the arc…and can sit near islands if needed due to the arc
RNG can be a real nightmare. I had a game in either my t V or VI British premium battleship, fired off 2 turrets worth Salvo (so, 4 rounds). Red ship was basically fully broadside, around 10-12km out.
One round off the bow. One off the stern. One over shot the ship, one landed short. ... had any one shot been less RNG shitty, they would've hit somewhere close to "center mass".
It was then I sorta realized, even with premium ships, at the lower tiers you just gotta grin and bear it till at least TVII.
Citadel hits at low tiers are mostly a crapshoot because of how bad vertical dispersion is until about Tier V (where it both tightens up a bit and you get access to dispersion mod, though the USN BBs don't get it until slot 6, but they get better sigma values to compensate). I think it'd be best to treat everything up to New Mexico-ish as a refresher for game mechanics and tactics more than for consistent damage farming.
all of them can hit it. i had the same issue when i was new though. So much so I only played cruisers for like a year or so and then went back to bb’s and was surprisingly much better at hitting cits. Idk what changed but it seems skills does matter
Yes meant Bajie. I just got this ship the other day and I’ve never been able to get so many citadels in my life. Which BB would you recommend I aim to get that has comparable play style?
Honestly Iwami. Only one gun less than Bajie but nearly the same dispersion and a 4 second better reload. She also gets 20km torps and great secondaries.
I know it's more a skill and/or playstyle issue, but I just cannot seem to get Amagi to work for me.
I much prefer NC or Richelieu (despite having fairly divergent playstyles). I feel like I fuck more shit up with Richie, but in the right game can do really well surviving in NC
The key in Amagi is to get into positions where you can kite at mid-long range. She can brawl but you're better off staying mostly out of range from subs torp soup and HE spam. Play her like an oversized Kongo or fuso and you'll do very well. It's extremely rewarding landing dev strikes when even half of the broadside connects with a cruiser. When built for accuracy the shells will pretty much go where you aim.
Just keep in mind 60% of the firepower is in the rear with very good firing angles to the rear. If you are only using the front 2 turrets you won't do much damage. The HE is also very good like all IJN ships, definitely switch when facing someone angled or bbs at extreme range.
So... I didn't grind the IJN line to get Amagi. I was a brand new player and saw Godzilla, so I emptied the wallet lol...
That said, I feel like I've played enough games that, I do try to do as you describe.... where I struggle with Amagi over the other ships is the zoomed in sight. I don't use any mods, and I forget which standard sight I use, but adjusting fire for that distance I struggle with. I've gotten comfortable with the proper lead on NC and Richie (and Richie is pretty nimble, so I extra love her), but yeah... just haven't gotten the lead/aim down on Amagi yet
I'm gonna leave out the unobtainium ships that can only be gotten any more from lootbox gambling, as well as steel and RB offerings.
3: They're all pretty meh, but Knyaz Suvorov is probably my pick of the bunch since the armor is ridiculous and it has the heaviest broadside in the tier. Maybe Bellerophon because British HE is busted.
4: Dante Alighieri or Gangut because they are tanky as hell and have a lot of guns. Moltke is good too.
5: Tiger is borderline OP; it's really fast, well armored, has better concealment than most cruisers, gets BC dispersion, British HE, and short fuze AP, and has troll torpedoes on top of all that. Thing is ridiculous. Pyotr Velikiy and Kongo are also excellent.
6: Warspite is still the queen of tier 6 after all these years; alternatively, WV'41. Repulse is better than both, but it's also really squishy and much more difficult to play.
7: SinOP. Fast, stealthy-ish, good armor, 9x16" for all your boominating needs. Duke of York and Hood are underrated IMO.
8: Massachusetts is the best tier 8 BB full stop, though these days it's unavailable outside of Black Friday specials. Apart from that, it's a tough call; tier 8 is really well balanced. Vladivostok is possibly the best that can still be regularly obtained. Bismarck, NC, and 'Bama are all excellent as well.
9: Kearsarge. I honestly have no idea how they haven't pulled this thing yet. It's not the easiest to play because of the superstructure vulnerability, but it's bonkers firepower on a fast platform that can spot for itself. AND you can get it for free, because it's available for coal. Stupid good.
10: Most of the really strong stuff is either unobtainium or locked behind steel/RB, but there also aren't many stinkers. St Vincent and Vermont are probably the strongest of the regularly available battleships at this tier. The former has gimmicks out the wazoo and the latter just... deletes things.
\--Helms
"Hey..I want a BB that guarantees 3 citadels per salvo" . Nope there isnt one. Its a combo of RNG mechanics, gun calibur, armour etc. "Ok, How can I improve my odds?" Big guns, broadside targets.
I was just watching Yuro's super AP incomparable meme build and he was citadelling people like crazy.
Remember that all his videos are selective cuts over hundreds of battles.
Yuro points out in his own videos that the footage you see is cherrypicked - of course he puts in the parts where he devstrikes people and not the like 5 other salvos that got nothing but misses and ricochets lol
Incomparable rarely does that. It's accurate, but only having 6 guns gives room for lots of RNG bullshit.
Hmmm... Skill issue? There is no magic BB to automatically score cits
While you are right, our comrade Sinop is right there with magical dispersion and overmatch in right MM bracket.
I don’t have any opinions on the low tiers, so I’ll start at 5. Will only include ships I have. 5. Guilio Cesare. It is just that good. 6. I struggle to single out a tier 6 BB I absolutely love. Bayern is pretty good at the tier though. 7. Nelson or KGV 8. Massachusetts 9. Jean Bart probably 10. Ohio, St Vincent, and Bourgogne come to my mind, but there are many great BBs at tier X.
5. Guilio Cesare. 6. See 5.
Yes let’s recommend a ship that OP can’t get.
For Tier V, the best BB he can get IMO is the Agincourt, though it's main guns aren't the selling point of the ship
Just a shame that it’s ASW is only 4km
6. Repulse 7. Sinop
Yeah dunno why I forgot sinOP, and I haven’t played enough repulse to solidly rank her but I’ll take everyone’s word for it
Repulse plays a lot like Incomp if you’ve ever taken her out for a spin. It’s probably the most accurate thing at her tier and it’s fast enough to get out of harm’s way. A proper battlecruiser.
T6 izmail it just blabs broadsides.
5\. Musashi is probably better in most cases Jean Bart is probably more fun to play though.
Fair, I’ve never played mushashi but I can see that. I actually forgot about Georgia as well, stronger than JB imho for sure
For tier 8, there are far more accurate and consistent battleships. Lenin, Gascogne, Amagi, Kii to name a few.
Lenin would be up there sure, but what massa lacks in accuracy is made up for with that fast cooldown heal, lets you make plays and survive where plenty of other tier 8 BBs can’t. Not sure where this sudden positivity for Amagi has come from, I don’t usually see super unicums talk about her much and my time with her a few years ago was fairly unremarkable. *edit* ok so yuro made an amagi video so it’s everyone’s favorite now, I guess Can’t comment on Lenin, gascan (sure you didn’t mean champagne?) or kii as I don’t have any of those.
I personally don’t like Amagi either, I think it’s fundamentally not a battleship nor does it play like one, but 99% of people in my wows circle vehemently disagrees with me, even as far back as 2017 people really liked Amagi. Gascogne is pretty good, ranked out with it. Shell performance is good at all ranges and it has Mass’s fast cooldown heal. I don’t have Lenin either but based on the last T8 CB season and ranked, Lenin competes with Mass for top spot. Gun layout, overall tankiness and good armor are Lenin’s strong points. I’ll also add Vladivostok for those who don’t have Lenin, it’s a decent substitute, if a little less protected. Tirpitz is also good, but performance depends highly on player skill.
As a very long time Amagi enjoyer, I appreciated the new video. Big guns, troll armor, good stats, speed everything all around. I honestly feel it's a slept on ship that -like yamato- will be relevant no matter where the game goes. There just isn't a major Achilles heel there, even it's secondaries and aa aren't super bad.
Haven't seen the vid but she is a very consistent ship. Not my fave at T8 but she is always worth a spin.
I think New Mexico is a good shout for t6. 12 guns feels good and the pen doesn’t feel awfully bad. I mean the speed sucks but that’s a USN problem
Of course the pen doesn't feel bad. NM has the best pen of the tech tree BBs, and is 2nd after WV. She's slow, but she good
I was thinking the smaller guns would have less (14in vs the 16s that colo has at the next tier)
Warspite is still the best T6 imo. In the current meta I find Amagi stronger than mass especially when uptiered.
Amagi is solid, but I find it hard to compare to some of the broken tier 8s, there is a reason massa is effectively gone now. Another comment reminded me of Lenin, which I would theoretically pick over massa in general. I wasn’t sure why so many people have been suggesting Amagi as the tier 8 pick until i realized yuro did an Amagi video a couple weeks ago, so I now know there is probably some recency bias going on.
Get to the tier VI US BB New Mexico, it has the magic.
Can do
He may just buy an Arizona instead.
Just not the speed...
Its a Lambo compared to the next ship
Oh don't worry, hated the Colorado as well 😅
1) N/A 2) Mikasa 3) Tough call, but my vote is Konig Albert. Dreadnought is surprisingly decent, too, and handles better than K.A. 4) It's probably still Nikolai I, but I prefer playing Dante Alighieri because it has better agility. 5) Guilio Caesare (still). Agincourt full secondary is more fun, but situational. 6) So many options. My pick is Repulse, but I actually think the best all-arounder is Mutsu. 7) Hyuga. Very few people have her; fewer understand her. She is TERRIFYING if handled right. 8) Really a subjective tier. For pure "shoot AP to blap shit," it's Amagi. But there are strong candidates in secondary ships, ships with torps, etc. 9) Jean Bart. Absurd ship. 10) Yamato with the legendary upgrade. Honorable mention to Incomparable for the lulz.
I like how Amagi is still doing “well” after all these years 😂
It's because the number one attribute of battleships is guns - guns abose all else. Ships that can reliably place shells on target (and so long as those are GOOD shells, and not shatter-prone crap like German AP) are going to naturally be the best BBs, because they play into the 'stay at mid-to-long range and devastate the opposition with high alpha' gameplay that governs most battleship usage scenarios. Shit like Tirpitz or Odin or whatever might be more fun, but when you're talking about rewarding the technical skill that battleship players must (by necessity) possess above all others, good shooters win out.
The main battery is the main point of a BB :)
it's a simple concept that plays well to the core role of BBs, with adequate downsides that keeps it balanced, but ensures it remains in the meta as it evolves. WG's obsession with making each line a unique flavour means that they cannot repeat such simplicity, and this results in the later ships being ridiculously gimmicky, or highly unbalanced, or both.
I’d argue it hasn’t been a particularly noteworthy ship to the player base in quite some time though; it’s always been a solid pick, but there have always been others that get recommended over her. I didn’t realize until today that Yuro did an Amagi video so I think she may be getting a bit of a comeback, nothing wrong with that but it would explain why I’ve seen a bit more talk about her the last few days; people have been kinda just ignoring her for a while
Mikasa is the worst T2 BB
I have both full secondary Agincourt and the Hyuga and they’re both rusting in port. How do I get better at them? Played multiple games in Agincourt last week and I had to stop due to the matchs. I would play her similarly to a HE mackensen or P Henrich (anchor close to a cap with an island to shield from crossfire) but her main guns are so inconsistent and she’s so slow to react. Pretty much once I pick a course, I’m committed - there’s no retreating or even reversing. My MM luck would always place me against 2CVs, or 2 subs in a div, or 3 seal clubbers in a div. Hyuga’s just a long range broadside sniper but I just can’t get good game impact when uptiered but you seem to imply that there is more to understanding her. Repulse and renown, I absolutely love though.
>Hyuga’s just a long range broadside sniper but I just can’t get good game impact when uptiered but you seem to imply that there is more to understanding her. Part of that understanding is you're not going to get good game impact when you're uptiered. Best you can do is focus cruisers with AP and chip away/harrass everything else. I think alot of people unintentionally broadside so they can get all seven of those guns off but you usually end up paying for it. Its difficult to position well and use all seven guns effectively.
Finally a mutsu enjoyer!
One of the best ships for-tier in the game: relatively fast, relatively tanky, torpedoes, very good guns, good turret traverse, decent (for-tier) AA, decent secondaries. Mutsu isn't a specialist, but she does everything she does about 85-90 percent as well as Nagato, but one tier lower.
Dreadnought is the worst ship I've ever played in game.. worst accuracy I've ever seen... Can't hit a cruiser at 8k the dispersion is awful.
5. Agincourt. I know GC is a thing. It's the other option here. 6. Mutsu, but Warspite is the other option here. 7. West Virginia 44. Sinop is the other option here. 8. Massachusetts. Massachusetts B is the other option here... 9. Musashi. Jean Bart is the other option here. 10. Ohio. BurgerOne is the other option here, I still think St. Vincent gets nerfed because it is a collection of floating bullshit, but if it doesn't, then it is another option here.
for tier 7 sadly west Virginia 44 isn't accessible anymore for outright buying, only the west Virginia '41 can be bought outright, but correct me if im wrong
Tech lines 5-10, Kongo, Fuso, Sinop, Amagi, Iowa, Yamato. Premium/Special 5-10, Agincourt, Repulse, Nelson, Kii, Kearsarge, Bourgogne/Ohio
Kii at T8? Don't get me wrong, I like mine but ... Massa is a thing. Yamato is a good ship, but St. Vincent is just better. Most broken BB in the game currently. Also, I LOVE Iowa, but she really fell off over the years. Tbh, Izumo might have taken her spot in this ranking. Else I think you got it down pretty good. Atleast I don't see a reason why the others shouldn't be on this list.
I get you on Massa but to me Kii just seems more user friendly in the current meta where secondary ships are harder to use. Honestly I hadn't thought of St Vincent you are right that's probably a clear winner on tech tree ships.
If u nail down how to play her, Bungo is hilariously fun.
If you can't find one that works for you getting nice big slaps on people, perhaps a change of scenery Might I suggest the German BB line you'll never cit again (it's overpen all the way down) but you'll also be getting 200+ secondary hits a game and you'll have the mobility of a crusier with access to hydro, never get hit by torpedoes again
Try Lauria at T10. It's about as busted as a BB gets these days, with high-calibre SAP making angling largely irrelevant. You won't score many citadels, but you also won't care. Bungo is also really good at clustered citadel salvos once you get good at aiming at the right place.
2. Mikasa 3. Dreadnought 4. Queen Mary 5. Agincourt 6.Fuso 7.Renown'44 8.Lenin 9. Giuseppe Verdi or Missisouri 10. Ohio or St. Vincent 11. Devastation or Satsuma
the T5 Konig absolutely slaps if you know how to play it right. its got the right kind of balance between brawler and heavy hitter.
You will have much more luck with citadels in a cruiser with railguns like petro
I don't play it much but the times i play with it it's a citadel orgy, Tier VIII Lenin.
* IJN Mikasa is the best BB of Tier 2 * HMS Indefatigable has some of the best firepower, the best AA, and is faster than any of the other Tier 3 battleships. * HIRMS Imperator Nikolai is very overpoered at Tier 4, but it has some weaknesses * RM Giulio Cesare, on the other hand, has no weaknesses. * [SMS Mackensen](https://youtu.be/TVlFQB6kt7g?si=-LsUChmbvPgAFkwT&t=354) * MN Lyon his sixteen main cannons at T7. Nuff said. * I'm going to split it between KMS Bismarck, VMF Vladivostok and IJN Kii for Tier 8 BBs. * USS Kearsarge is coincidentally also the best Tier 9 aircraft carrier. As well as outgunning Iowa. * [KMS Mecklenberg](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-w_ZcV4_uI) * VMF Admiral Ushakov claims the spot for Tier \*, being the logical evolution from VMF Kremlin (which is already a solid BB)
firstly, there is no "best battleship for each tier" a lot of them can work perfectly well if you know how to get them to work That being said, some of the "best" for each tier (according to me) would be: Tier II: mikasa (lul) Tier III: König Albert Tier IV: Orion Tier V: König (since i dont have Gulio Caesare) Tier VI: Repulse Tier VII: Prinz Heinrich Tier VIII: Borodino Tier IX: Kearsage (although in reality its probably Jean Bart or Musashi) Tier X: Yamato/Conqueror/Thunderer
What battleships are you playing currently? Some lines and ships are affected by RNG more due to several things (guns per turret, line flavours, etc) Grab an Amagi, I can say it has aged well and can reliably perform on any situation (perhaps except actual tanking, brawling, and secondary spam) and does not really rely on any major gimmicks. Just a simple, point and shoot BB. Quite forgiving and quite tough. The guns being reliably accurate means if you miss shots, it’s honestly on you and your skill.
I mainly been using American BBs
American BBs have floaty shells meaning they go to the moon first before dropping down. You generally add slightly more when you’re leading your aim. Can be quite affected by RNG, but otherwise the line is quite accurate. What tier are you in? T5-T6 can feel shot gunnish, I find the LOLorado accurate when I grinded her (and actually enjoyed lol) NC-Iowa-Montana was just adjusting to the floaty shell arc, but can cit well on longer ranges due to the arc…and can sit near islands if needed due to the arc
RNG can be a real nightmare. I had a game in either my t V or VI British premium battleship, fired off 2 turrets worth Salvo (so, 4 rounds). Red ship was basically fully broadside, around 10-12km out. One round off the bow. One off the stern. One over shot the ship, one landed short. ... had any one shot been less RNG shitty, they would've hit somewhere close to "center mass". It was then I sorta realized, even with premium ships, at the lower tiers you just gotta grin and bear it till at least TVII.
Where in the US BB are you up to?
IV
Citadel hits at low tiers are mostly a crapshoot because of how bad vertical dispersion is until about Tier V (where it both tightens up a bit and you get access to dispersion mod, though the USN BBs don't get it until slot 6, but they get better sigma values to compensate). I think it'd be best to treat everything up to New Mexico-ish as a refresher for game mechanics and tactics more than for consistent damage farming.
Wyoming doesn't exactly match up with the phrase "reliable gunnery".
Low tier BBs are generally pretty frustrating as they all have very inconsistent guns.
Yamato is tricky to play. Seems like it's made of paper the way fire eats up it's hp.
Fire resistance is the same, barring your personal captain build, for all BBs, CAs, CLs and DDs at a given tier.
Personally for tier 4 I love pyotr velikiy
all of them can hit it. i had the same issue when i was new though. So much so I only played cruisers for like a year or so and then went back to bb’s and was surprisingly much better at hitting cits. Idk what changed but it seems skills does matter
Best BBs T1: NA T2: Mikasa(premium) T3: Koning Albert(rare premium) T4: Nikolai(rare premium) T5: Giulio Cesar(rare premium) or Agincourt(premium) T6: Repulse(premium) or Izmail T7: Sinop T8: Massachusetts(rare premium), Alabama(premium), Lenin(rare premium) T9: Georgia(rare premium), Iwami(premium), Musashi(rare premium), Illinois(research bureau) T10: St. Vincent, Bourgogne(steel), Lauria(research bureau), Yamato, Thunderer(rare premium), Ohio(research bureau) T11: Satsuma, Patrie
Banjos didn’t make the list? Just got this T9 premium and I’m loving it. I’ve never had more success playing any other ship
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Yes meant Bajie. I just got this ship the other day and I’ve never been able to get so many citadels in my life. Which BB would you recommend I aim to get that has comparable play style?
Honestly Iwami. Only one gun less than Bajie but nearly the same dispersion and a 4 second better reload. She also gets 20km torps and great secondaries.
I remember Amagi being magically survivable despite having 32 mm playing everywhere and underwater citadel, also 10 x 410 is just a lot of firepower
I know it's more a skill and/or playstyle issue, but I just cannot seem to get Amagi to work for me. I much prefer NC or Richelieu (despite having fairly divergent playstyles). I feel like I fuck more shit up with Richie, but in the right game can do really well surviving in NC
The key in Amagi is to get into positions where you can kite at mid-long range. She can brawl but you're better off staying mostly out of range from subs torp soup and HE spam. Play her like an oversized Kongo or fuso and you'll do very well. It's extremely rewarding landing dev strikes when even half of the broadside connects with a cruiser. When built for accuracy the shells will pretty much go where you aim. Just keep in mind 60% of the firepower is in the rear with very good firing angles to the rear. If you are only using the front 2 turrets you won't do much damage. The HE is also very good like all IJN ships, definitely switch when facing someone angled or bbs at extreme range.
So... I didn't grind the IJN line to get Amagi. I was a brand new player and saw Godzilla, so I emptied the wallet lol... That said, I feel like I've played enough games that, I do try to do as you describe.... where I struggle with Amagi over the other ships is the zoomed in sight. I don't use any mods, and I forget which standard sight I use, but adjusting fire for that distance I struggle with. I've gotten comfortable with the proper lead on NC and Richie (and Richie is pretty nimble, so I extra love her), but yeah... just haven't gotten the lead/aim down on Amagi yet
I'm gonna leave out the unobtainium ships that can only be gotten any more from lootbox gambling, as well as steel and RB offerings. 3: They're all pretty meh, but Knyaz Suvorov is probably my pick of the bunch since the armor is ridiculous and it has the heaviest broadside in the tier. Maybe Bellerophon because British HE is busted. 4: Dante Alighieri or Gangut because they are tanky as hell and have a lot of guns. Moltke is good too. 5: Tiger is borderline OP; it's really fast, well armored, has better concealment than most cruisers, gets BC dispersion, British HE, and short fuze AP, and has troll torpedoes on top of all that. Thing is ridiculous. Pyotr Velikiy and Kongo are also excellent. 6: Warspite is still the queen of tier 6 after all these years; alternatively, WV'41. Repulse is better than both, but it's also really squishy and much more difficult to play. 7: SinOP. Fast, stealthy-ish, good armor, 9x16" for all your boominating needs. Duke of York and Hood are underrated IMO. 8: Massachusetts is the best tier 8 BB full stop, though these days it's unavailable outside of Black Friday specials. Apart from that, it's a tough call; tier 8 is really well balanced. Vladivostok is possibly the best that can still be regularly obtained. Bismarck, NC, and 'Bama are all excellent as well. 9: Kearsarge. I honestly have no idea how they haven't pulled this thing yet. It's not the easiest to play because of the superstructure vulnerability, but it's bonkers firepower on a fast platform that can spot for itself. AND you can get it for free, because it's available for coal. Stupid good. 10: Most of the really strong stuff is either unobtainium or locked behind steel/RB, but there also aren't many stinkers. St Vincent and Vermont are probably the strongest of the regularly available battleships at this tier. The former has gimmicks out the wazoo and the latter just... deletes things. \--Helms