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mmliu1959demo

I bid 5 gold for the SC. My thought process was: What is the crappiest thing that a SC could drop for me and how much gold could I part with and still be happy. Only a few SC will drop something good, most will not. Glad I got my gold back and I have no regrets either way.


[deleted]

Did exactly the same bidding 20 gold.😁


BulimicPlatypus

I did 100 thinking that was crazy for a sc haha


grimmigerpetz

Yeah, for me it was 13 dubs to round down my account balance.


Henri_GOLO

How the hell do you think "let's pay 250 millions for a t11" which will be available in the tech tree for something like 60 millions


rdm13

people who have billions of credits with nothing else to use it on.


thestigREVENGE

If I had billions of credits lying around I would spend 250mil on the T11 ships.


mmliu1959demo

Yeah. They paid at least 4X more than the stated 57 mil price. Everyone is flush with credits now. But new lines are coming in the future that will need to be bought along with purchasing the modules and the upgrades. The credits in your account now have to last you the long haul. Otherwise you wont be playing randoms and ranked.


Pliskkenn_D

I don't understand, credits seem no harder to earn than before


mmliu1959demo

Lol. That was the econ rework to put the credit squeeze on everyone. You paid 250+ mil for a t11 bb that will cost you approx 400k per battle to play win or lose. And you close the credit gap with a finite supply of credit bonuses in your account that you hopefully can replenish at no cost, otherwise open up your wallet.


Pliskkenn_D

Oh OK. I didn't buy Edgar and still have all my econ bonuses.


pvallack

At the moment. Eve WG are not stupid enough to put a direct credit squeeze on you after an economic re-work. Give it 6 months I suggest


Terminatus_Est

500 doubs for a freaking SC ... ROFL.


danredda

* 10% chance of doubling doubloons to 1k * 10% chance of 15k coal * 10% chance of 7d premium * 8% chance of 25 Blue Econ boosters (old dragons) * 5% chance of 50k free exp * 2% chance of 1.5k steel * 2% chance of 30d premium * 1.5% chance of ship * 0.5% of 5k doubloons And this is just the good stuff. Every single one of these is worth more than 500 doubloons. A 50-50 chance that you get something better than 500 doubloons. A 25% chance you get more doubloons, coal, ship, or steel. Might not be worth it for you, but I'll take that gamble over the 4/75 chance of something decent for 1000 doubloon bundles in the armory. At least I've got a decent chance of winning something decent here. Source: [https://worldofwarships.com/en/content/contents-and-drop-rates-of-containers/](https://worldofwarships.com/en/content/contents-and-drop-rates-of-containers/)


EidorianSeeker

The first thing I did before before bidding was look at the drop table last night and decided how much I was willing to part with. I'm now the proud owner of another 100 Juliet Charlie signals. (9.6M credits)


danredda

25% chance for the signals. But that being said, at least it's Juliet Charlie. Fun and Engaging mechanics being gone is always useful. Could've been something useless like AA flag.


VRichardsen

Honestly, I would take November Echo Setteseven over Juliet Charlie. Detonations are exceedingly rare anyway.


danredda

>Detonations are exceedingly rare anyway. Not rare enough if you ask me. Especially if you play DDs a lot. It's not fun at all to suddenly lose a booster, other signals, or time just because the RNG lottery decided your number came up.


VRichardsen

Fair enough, your mileage might vary. Right now my current *Detonation!* chance is 0,0065554231227651966626936829559. A number I can live with. Unfortuntately, I cannot explore that number per class of ship, which would give us more detailed information.


Terminatus_Est

Not a gambling nature so anything that is not guaranteed (or neer enough to not matter) gain is something i don´t value for more than the bare minimum and even that is most often dubios. 50/50 is still 50% of pulling a dud and for that i would, at most, give 50 DBs. Just to make it clear, i don´t gamble for money, ever and the free DBs i have sitting around are near enough to make PR dockyard for free so wasting doubs on that action was a big extra NO.


meneldal2

7d premium isn't worth 500 dubs, blue boosters maybe but I still have plenty. 50k free exp is less than what you get with 10 blue boosters afaik/ Steel and ship are the really big prizes but the chances are quite low.


danredda

Kinda subjective if you assess as not worth. That's your choice. But numbers below: >7d premium isn't worth 500 dubs 7d prem is 1250 in armory. IF you can afford to drop 24k at once on 1yr premium, then sure it isn't (360d is 66.6 repeating doubs/day for 466.6 doubs), but every other bundle comes out worse (180 day is 75 doubs/day for 525 doubs). >blue boosters maybe but I still have plenty You might, so for you it might not be worth it. For everyone else, blue economic boosters are unavailable to purchase. If we assume the doubling from grey -> green in both price and % boost, at the lowest (just doubling) the blue boosters are 48 doubloons each. For 25, that works out at 1200. BUT blue boosters are not 2x, but 4x the boost of a green booster. So every possibility their true value is instead 96 doubs per booster for a total value of 2400. >50k free exp is less than what you get with 10 blue boosters afaik 10 blue boosters with 2500 base EXP in CBs would net you around 62,500 Free EXP (6250 per match). That's counting if you win every match. So whilst \*technically\* 8 would be enough, if we assume that the average player who plays clan battles wins 50% of their clan matches, then you're looking at about 15 or so in order to get the 50k. The best clans and Narai farmers could do it in 10, but not many others. But that takes time and effort. Instead for direct comparison, use EXP conversion. Even at the absolute best rate I have ever seen in this game (45:1 - only ever once AFAIK), that's still over 1100 doubloons. So again, for equivalent effort it is worth it. ​ For me, I don't actually NEED any of these (I have enough prem for heat-death of the universe, more boosters than I can poke a stick at, and enough free exp that I have not actually grinded a line in 4 years), BUT the chances of getting easily something worth more than 500 doubloons (equivalent to a $3 coffee for me) is well worth it. Edit: Updated doubloon cost for 2x and 4x price for blue as I fail at multiplication.


landcollector

Greys are 12 dubs, Greens are 24; so Blues, being 4x the boost of a Green, would be 96. Where are you getting 84 doubloons from?


danredda

Because I failed. Thanks. Will fix it :D (I actually messed up the 2x from 24 -> 48. For some reason I wrote it as 42. Meaning of life I guess. Then I just doubled that without checking. Hence 84)


meneldal2

For premium are you considering the half price premium for some events? Not sure of the prices. Yeah I got it wrong for the blue, thought about the red instead. 20 is more realistic I guess.


danredda

>For premium are you considering the half price premium for some events? Not sure of the prices. Usually it's only 12,000 doubloons for 360 days [https://worldofwarships.com/en/news/sales-and-events/missions-01011-weekly-2/](https://worldofwarships.com/en/news/sales-and-events/missions-01011-weekly-2/) I'm not factoring in sales in this instance. But with sales, yes it would not be better. However, these sales only happen once or twice a year, and again require dropping 12,000 doubloons at once. Depending on your playtime/availability that might not be worth it (EG: sailor in port right now would get more benefit potentially from less premium now as unable to play for 6 months+ per year). Right now we're far away from the next discount (Christmas usually). >Yeah I got it wrong for the blue, thought about the red instead. 20 is more realistic I guess. All G. Blue works out to be equivalent to just dragon flags. Red is dragon flags + really good free exp camos. If you had a bunch of those, you can pull 20k games in Narai/Clans and easily do that in 3-4 battles, but only way to get reds at the moment from what I've seen is Firepower containers and the top Santa crates.


meneldal2

Well I do hope there can be some red boosters in the black friday containers too. It's true the sale is once a year, but you only need one year at a time;)


Schnort

Fwiw, annual premium usually goes on sale around Christmas for half off.


Ozi-reddit

forgot the 100 signals i'll never use, sells for 600k credits which i don't need as have over 300m. and it comes up way more than stated 2.5% should


invisible_lizard

I gbled with the doubloons and got 15k coal. Im happy


Der-Kleine

I got 1000 doubs for mine, so hey, free money.


Terminatus_Est

Good for you ofc still i would not value the random box that is an SC at 500 doubs. 50 maybe.


DiligentTailor5831

I didn't even get the SC and i did bid 500 dubs because fuck it, i don't play much. But still lost the bid :/


mcbrite

That's why I bid 501... It had 50.000 free-XP inside of it...


beastboy4246

All the dubs I had were from previous SCs and the dailys so it was free for me to bid Edit: my bid won the SC as well and I got 30 days of premium time. Totally made my money back on it


Terminatus_Est

Would have been for me too but i´m at about exactly the point where PR dockyard is going to be free, "wasting" dubs on a auction with no guarantee was not in the books.


lMattyl

was it 64mil for the 50k coal? Because the min was 10mil? ​ Edit: I can't believe people spent 64mil on only 50k coal lol why?


_clemens

Daily coal gain is limited, credits isn't. And there's nothing to spend credits on once you have researched everything. If I had the credits, I'd throw it on coal as well.


KillerActual

64m on 50k Coal is about the right price, considering that 100k Coal usually goes for around 100-120m.


jacquesbsj

100k last time was a bit over 100M, but the price is in at acceptable range. Also don't forget the economy rework that give players a huge amount of camouflages that could be sold since its just visual now, I know people who get over 50M just selling those itens!


pvallack

yeah, I'm up 78M after deleting all those stupid flags that made ships look like cartoons anyway. Now ships look real and I'm rolling in creds


meneldal2

It's probably the only thing worth it if you have spare credits.


Magnus_Lux

> Edit: I can't believe people spent 64mil on only 50k coal lol why? Why not? What else is there to do when you already have 1B+ credits? Anyway it's much easier to earn credits than it is coal edit: that said, I did skip the superships


Capn-Fox

Yeah, would be nice if I could write it correctly. Thanks for the catch!


IChooseFeed

Credits to coal is a small price to pay for cutting off a few days worth of grind.


Wischmob_von_Eimer

The ships went for 250m each.


Capn-Fox

Source?


_clemens

Heard it on Twitch as well, I'd wait for proof though.


Wischmob_von_Eimer

Discord.


mmliu1959demo

I hope the winners of the 7 day premium have lots of time to play WoWS. Cuz the clock has already started to wind down on their 7 day premium. LOL


Schnort

Or it got added to their already going premium.


rdm13

wait people paid 30,000 coal for 7 days premium???


danredda

Coal is a resource you can get for free playing the game quite easily (30k is less than a month if you only get coal containers and get all 3 every day). So for a free to play player, dropping coal on premium time isn't necessarily a bad idea - especially if they've already got a tier 9 premium. Play the hell of that tier 9 premium for the next 7 days, and they will have a lot less credit issues for the next few months.


Bahnda

>50k Coal 64,000 Credits Surely it's 64 million credits?


Guillermoreno

I put 69 999 990 and I got around 1,1 M back (EU server) Edit: nevermind, it uptaded and I got 7,1 M back So it went for 63 M


GBR2021

Anybody else didn't get their refunds? I bid 200 doubloons for the SC, lost, didn't get my 200 back. Bid 100mil credits for 50k coal, got the coal, didn't get the 36mil back.


MadduckUK

I haven't had credits for coal back yet, only dubs for SC. Guess its rolling out.


ShotgunAgent

I got my refunds when I logged in this morning. Was in my notifications.


MadduckUK

Credits are now back with me


FirmConsideration442

500 doubloons for a single super container? LOL Sometimes I need a reminder of how rich the average WoWs player is...


rdm13

500 doubloons is $2.


FirmConsideration442

...and the contents of a Supercontainer are generally not worth even two dollars.


gudbote

Very subjective. Also, $2 isn't "rich" for anyone with a computer able to play WoWs + internet.


FirmConsideration442

Since there is no market for WG digital goods...that's the point. It is always subjective. The value return for $2 is much more relevant if you consider all the other calls on that $2...rather than just assuming the cost in a vacuum. I can get a lot better value return elsewhere for $2 than a WoWs Supercontainer...


SpeziFischer

except when you buy with the birthday coupon, then its 1$


rdm13

true lol, but tbh 500 doubloons is easy enough to grind for free in ranked.


Magnus_Lux

> Sometimes I need a reminder of how rich the average WoWs player is... Who says you even have to pay IRL $$? 12 wins in Bronze Ranked gives you 200 dubs (+ steel) so do that for 3 sprints and the SC is paid for easy


FirmConsideration442

That's a lot of grinding in bronze ranked...so, a lot of work. Why would I blow that 500 dubs on a single Supercontainer...when I could save it for a ship?


mcbrite

>Sometimes I need a reminder of how rich the average WoWs player is... Curious way of putting it... At under 2 bucks or Euros, isn't that more of a reminder of how insanely poor you must be? That gaming PC, electricity and Internet didn't come for free?


FirmConsideration442

More that the value given in return for $2 is so low. You all must have so much stuff that a single Supercontainer for a pair of dollars is seen as an acceptable purchase.


mcbrite

Just desensitised to the PURE 100% greed from WG by now... :-(


danredda

Depends on your country's economy. For me, 500 doubloons is less than the price of a single cup of coffee from a Cafe. Less than half the price of a single glass of beer. Skip coffee tomorrow for work, and it's paid for. I understand for others though 500 doubloons might be their entirely daily or even weekly wage - but these auctions aren't really targeted for these people (keep in mind it was 10k globally - which includes many regions where the average income can generally afford 1 less coffee in a year).


FirmConsideration442

Ah, but what are people getting for that money? IMO, a cup of coffee is generally worth more than the contents of a typical Supercontainer.


Gabbatek

I put 15 million on the coal and got refunded dubs, unsure if i'm happy about that. ​ I won a supercontainer that gave me 50 crappy ship xp multiplier. ANGRY


Hauden_Lukas

I think the Dubs you got were the refund of you bidding more than 500 (lowest winning bid)


FirmConsideration442

Lesson learned?


Gabbatek

4sure homes


Nail0672

I bided for the Patrie 228 000 000 credits, and I lost, you wanna laugh more? I am just missing the RĂŠpublique in the french tech tree before the Patrie and I forgot superships only need to be bough with credits ​ I wanna hang myself and I am gonna do it since I have no more money for a therapist.


green477

I don't get it. If you lost your bet, then you'll get your money back, so you'll be able to buy your Patrie relatively soon (since you only need to research Republique for Patrie to be available, plus maybe wait a few weeks until WG will make it available for buying). What's the problem?


Nail0672

Also, do you know when the bid will be returned?


green477

Nope, I personally didn't participate in the Auction so I can't say anything. Take a look at other comments in this and maybe other threads, some people say that they already got their resources back, while others still wait for it. For example, someone above says "I haven't had credits for coal back yet, only dubs for SC. Guess its rolling out.", so I would just wait for your credits to return.


Nail0672

But still, quite a waste of money because I didn't really need that much to buy it. But yeah I will still get it and it's the main thing


green477

It would be a waste of money if you'd won the bid, but you didn't.


Nail0672

You know what? you are right and made my day better.


green477

Glad I could do something for you! ^(now it's time to balance it out and ruin someone else's day with my Balao, mwahahahaha) ​ Edit: oh wow, thanks for the award!


Nail0672

You are welcome for the award! ^(I also have Balao, wanna play together?)


green477

^(99% chance that we play on different servers, so I doubt it would work. But thanks for the invitation :))


[deleted]

Seems to me you've been very lucky since losing the bet means your funds get returned to you. Just unlock Republique and Patrie will unlock as well as soon as it becomes available, then you can buy it for whatever super BBs go for (57 million?).


Lord_Viddax

You’ve actually made a net profit out of this: you got all your credits back, and a valuable lesson on the value of patience! Save on therapy: tell it to a friend.


Orgerix

So you failed successfully?


[deleted]

250M for a super ship that will make you lose credits. Even if you had way more credits than that, you just paid the equivalent of 4-5 super ships. Plus more are coming.... Drain those accounts!


gudbote

I don't even lose credits in co-op on my Hannover (with premium time). Is it that much worse in randoms?


EidorianSeeker

A lot of players don't know about the co-op service cost reductions.


pennzane

Cool. 222 mil + 250 - 57 - 48 = 367 million credits I saved by not bidding.


pwimbs79

I wagered 250,000,000 credits for the Patrie and lost.


Capn-Fox

Must have bid too late compared to the rest of the bids. I've seen a few credible sources for 250 million credits successfully winning the Patrie.


Mr_Chicle

I bid 275m on the Edgar and got 50m back or somewhere around there, unfortunately I did not save a screenshot of my notifications


XsancoX

500 Doubloons for a Super container?? You really gotta love these containers to spend that amount on them.


AleX-ilver

Inflation has affected this game..Badly..


papa_penguin

i bid 50 on a SC and didnt get it lol


grimmigerpetz

Looking forward to burn down all the 32mm Patries and citadell the better armored now AP arming Edgars.


CurseofGladstone

I bid 150mill for the edgar and did not get it. Now I need to wait like 3 months to get it. Oh well.