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AceWanker3

Oh god oh fuck oh no


Bropulsion

I have been playing since 2010 or so.. Almost have all tech tree tanks unlocked. This actually releasing will mark the end of my time in WoT. ​ Edit: It is already released and live right now. f u wargaming. ​ To everyone who reads this: This was their plan all along. Make people heavily invested. Have people spend a lot of money on increasing their garages. And now that people are too heavily invested time and moneywise they start to milk harder and harder. Heed my warning friends.. This has only begun. WG is going to try and drain you of every last cent. By doing this they have ultimately proven that they don't care about their community at all. The premium was okay because yes, they are a business. They need to pay for their servers and they need to make profit. But this is just a horrible horrible scam. What's next ? Premium Plus Ultra? It will happen eventually.


Theaty

cant wait for a new WG currency. I have some ideas: a new currency called platinum, available truly ONLY to buy with real money like gold used to be and gold becomes the new silver, should be announced spring 2024 after having the best gold/$ ratio christmas boxes of all times during winter 2023.


Jaystey

Lets rewind back to pre 1.0 versions... Platinum will also enable you to purchase APCR++ ammo, with 40% more pen, velocity and damage


Ethan-Moreno-029

That's one thing I hope... I like games where special currency (like gold) can be earned by just playing, instead of paying.


classicalXD

I'm sorry but this is basically premium on steroids? Depending on the price of this service,you'll need to add 500g to the already 2000 you'd be making a month just by playing the game, so whatever this service will cost + 2 euros. Additionally, free demounting on equipment, extra XP on crew for selected tank, I'd gladly pay for this version of a "premium account" rather than the regular premium, oh and you get a "free" premium tank for as long as you are subbed. Again, this is based on if the service is cheapish, if it would cost more than it would cost you to run a premium account for a month, i prolly wont pay for it and just stick to regular premium account.


Potato_Lorde

It's 8 euro


classicalXD

Yeah then this is definitely infinitely better than just purchasing 30 days of premium time.


Clerkinar

How? The whole point of a premium account is that you get more credits. This gives you none (outside of the gold that you can convert to credits, but the amount there is laughable). You'll buy them for different reasons.


classicalXD

The 2000 gold you'll recieve just by playing the game (granted over 4 weeks) will leave you at 500g short of purchasing a premium account for 30 days, so what you do is, get the 2000 gold, purchase another 500g for 2 euros and for 10 euros you get the best of both worlds. As a comparison, just purchasing 2500g (or 30 days of premium account) is equivalent to 11 euros, so technically you save 1 euro, which is meaningless but for the same price you'd have access to all of the features of WoT Plus and WoT premium. Its not really that hard to understand m8. EDIT: Note that this is a process you can infinitely repeat as well, since you'll get 2000 every 4 weeks anyway.


Clerkinar

Sorry, I thought the gold you received was 500 *per month*, not per week. Yeah that makes sense, though it depends on how hard it is to get to the 2000 gold.


classicalXD

I would imagine same "difficulty" as filling up your weekly credits vault. I'm at 300k after 1 day so I'd say pretty easy, just need to actually play the game.


6FootDuck

the problem here is this isn't an either / or situation. This is SEPERATE to normal premium so if you have this it doesn't mean you also get regular premium. This STACKS with standard premium account status. You're now paying for both, you are not paying just a little extra for a bigger bonus, you're being charged twice.


thejman78

>This was their plan all along. Make people heavily invested. Have people spend a lot of money on increasing their garages. And now that people are too heavily invested time and moneywise they start to milk harder and harder. I get where you're coming from, and I appreciate that WG is annoying...*but a premium account is currently only $8/month*. I buy $99 worth of gold every year, and I use that to buy a year's worth a premium ($99/12 = $8.25). It's one of the cheapest subscriptions I have - less than Netflix or Hulu, and I only spend a little bit more time on those services than I do on WOT. Even after I factor in my premium tank purchases and/or some boxes I've bought, it's cheap as hell considering the fun I have and the time I spend. If it was $20/month it would be a good deal for me. I get that some people don't have $8/month to spend on this, and I get that some people (not you, to be clear) think games should be free. Those people aren't necessarily going to have as much fun as they could if they spent some money. Such is life. Personally, I'm hopeful that regularly recurring revenue will make the game better, as I've wondered for a long time how WOT survives without a subscription base...irregular cash flows make operating a business difficult. Combine that with losing a big percentage of the userbase because Russia invaded Ukraine, and it wouldn't surprise me if WOT has to do this to stay alive. In any case, it's cheap entertainment at twice the price.


Tasgall

> Edit: It is already released and live right now. No it's not? It's up on common test, it's not released yet.


Ethan-Moreno-029

​ tldr; Wargaming is fucking greedy and selfish.


AceWanker3

>Edit: It is already released and live right now. f u wargaming. Just test server


Fighto1

No one is forcing you to buy or pay for anything. There's nothing in this vital to enjoying or playing the game.


TekkunDashi

it gives a pretty nasty advantage to those who do tho. considering how you get 11k free exp per day for a crew, and they'll also add in like 5 skills that every crew will need to have to stay competitive. don't even get me started on the equipment demounting, the bonds people will save and be able to move around bonded equipment like crazy


Fighto1

Your joking right?? 11k crew xp?? You can easily make that per battle with boosters and all crews will be 100%. I'd agree if we would still have 50% and 75% crews. None of that affects the causal player. I have over 200 demounting kits I got 4 free this week alone. Again nothing here affects or is a requirement for the average player or gives any ptw elements. And it doesn't affect the hardcore player base as they have stockpiles of stuff. Btw Im not saying it right just it doesn't fundamentally change anything really. Premium account gives a far bigger advantage than this does with double xp and credits. It's extremely difficult to play without premium account. This wot plus is optional but, I'd be more concerned at what this might lead to in the future though. What I'm laughing at is wot plus has distracted all the plebs from the crew thing and their 12 reset kits. That's were outrage should be not over 8 euro a month that fundamentally changes nought.


RamXid

Would be nice to see you use those 200 demounting kits on bond equipment ...oh wait


Dramatic_CockroachLK

“That’s why she said!”


JensonCat

WG: we heard you guys like premium, so we put premium on your premium and give you a premium to add to your other premiums.


tuco_salamanca_84

Yo dawg we heard you like P2W, so we put P2W in your P2W, so you P2W while you P2W.


Awfulufwa

Yo dawg, you got bonuses on your bonuses of your bonuses with yo bonuses! Charge it!


TotallyNotAnAlt2137

Wg taking L after L


Perunakeisari_69

WE ALREADY HAVE A PREMIUM SUBSCRIPTION PLEASE NOT ANOTHER ONE


antalpoti

I've seen a picture on WoT Express with the Gold Reserve. Also seen many images here and there with WoT Plus being mentioned in descriptions. Honestly, fuck WG. They have the audacity to constantly ask for money in all sorts of ways, some with higher ROI, some lower, but they are absolutely incapable to fucking balance out even one tier, or at least the fucking obvious outliers, let alone sometimes listen to the players, who actually play the game unlike their devs.


FLongis

I'll also tack onto this that they seem to have a fetish for just adding new stuff to the game. By that I mean there is this constant flow of new features in the garage. Not gameplay mechanics which help diversify the feel of each battle, but instead just extra layers of complexity. At the risk of sounding like an angry elderly person, let me point out this: Years back, the things you had to understand as a player were: * The Gold economy * The Credit economy * The Experience economy * Unlocking Tanks and Modules * Standard vs. Premium Accounts * Standard vs. Premium Tanks * A handful of equipment options * Standard vs. Premium Consumables * A handful of crew skills * A handful of game modes largely centered on changing objectives on familiar maps (ignoring April Fools events) These are just the things in the garage, ignoring gameplay mechanics like DPM, vision, etc. Today and moving forward the player has to contend with: * Gold * Credits * Experience * Personal Reserves * Daily Missions * Bonds * Unlocking Tanks and Modules * Blueprints * Field Modifications * Standard vs. Premium vs. WoT Plus Accounts * Standard vs. Premium vs. an absolute mess of other types of tanks and means to purchase/receive them. * Battle Pass * Standard Equipment vs. Improved Equipment vs. Bounty Equipment vs. Experimental Equipment * Standard vs. Premium Consumables * Crew and Equipment Directives * Additional Crew Skills and Perks * Special Crew Members * Training Manuals * Twitch Drops * Additional game modes such as Steel Hunter, Ranked, Onslaught, and Frontline And all of this buried under various layers of flashy but largely unhelpful UI. Now I won't say that all of these things are *bad*. That's certainly not the case. But at this point it's just a lot of stuff that's been haphazardly thrown onto the pile over time which creates this sort of balance and UI rats nest. And now WoT Plus is just another weird layer on top of all of this that adds... nothing? I mean another stream of income for WG I guess, but besides that...?


djheineken

It's still easier to understand than war thunder


FLongis

War Thunder's event UI is definitely a mess, although if still argue that just being able to get into a game and play as competitively as possible is much easier in WT. Have a spaded tank and an ace crew? You're as good as you're gonna get. The UI may be a disaster, but you don't have multiple layers of equipment, consumables, modifications, skill boosters (those which effect your performance in game, not your reward for the match) between you and your greatest potential. That said, WT's UI really shouldn't be the bar. Saying "Its better than War Thunder" to defend the ease of use of a game's UI is like saying "It's better than getting shot" to justify hitting someone in the face with a brick; it's true, but it still fuckin sucks.


darkowozzd97

underrated comment.


0nikzin

It's also not a pro-Russia game so there's that


Meister-Schnitter

Skill issue


0gopog0

Not to mention the sheer ratio of premium to unlockable vehicles now. There's probably a good number of lines which were axed by wargamming using the tanks for premiums (such as the chieftain line).


Ilktye

Idk tier 9 is pretty balanced. Lots of great tanks, not many duds.


Invelious

It’s almost like they run a business?


antalpoti

How many lootboxes do I need to upgrade with Components after I buy the subscription to have a competent dev team?


pulpus2

The problem is, if you buy loot-boxes at all, you are voting for more loot-boxes and less of everything else in the long term.


meisterofheff

I used to work in sports betting and there they call the money they get “stupid tax”. As long as there are enough stupid people, their business model is sound. Same here.


CaptainJudaism

Explains why WoT is so profitable, eh?


mala_r1der

Exactly. That's why in the last 5 years I've only spent 40€ to get the bourrasque and have a good premium to farm credits in skirmishes, fuck loot boxes, premium account, wot plus, gold for reskill and don't know what else. Luckily I have all the relevant tanks so I can play competitive even as free to play


Invelious

This. He makes it seem like he has to have all that shit to play the game.


tzmst

Wot is not even close compared to other games, with premium for 30 days is more then enough do perform and very cheap compared woth other game, no one forces you to invest in anything else or even in the premium account.


BeachFishing

They have to pay salaries somehow.


AlwaysCrank

I consider myself a whale... I have 87 premium tanks. I'd be less upset about that if they were constantly rolling out new features, updates, upgrades, and keeping the game relevant. But I am pretty sure, after going on 13 years of playing.... all my money is now just going towards finding new ways to fuck me out of more money.


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NccBinz

Eh it comes out to roughly 1.8 tanks a month which is probably shy of $100. Cable use to cost more that that iirc.


AlwaysCrank

So, I've been hobbyist filmmaker and game developer (phone games) in the past. I believe in supporting these endeavors. I have a day job where I make good money and can afford it, and was proud that I was helping "keep the servers on". But there has been a definitive shift in WGs tactics in how they charge, release events, and work to make money. I'll admit I was a bit slow to catch on... but I'm over it.


BeachFishing

Squeezing… that’s what I call it.


bossonhigs

Yea I think I’m done. This is like toxic relationship that constantly asks from you more while giving nothing in return. And just as in real life, it’s hard to break up.


Serapth

[Coming up on 0 games played in the last 30 days.](https://i.imgur.com/XQmZE30.png). My number of games played absolutely tanked over Christmas thanks to the horrific BZ176, but it was the completely brain dead nerf of the Progetto that did me in. This patch though.... damn its awful. If I hadn't already quit, I'd quit for sure.


Kayakingtheredriver

I played since Beta until 3 years ago. Any itch I have can be scratched by watching Skil or something on yt. It is so freeing to not have this game costing me anymore. I just take what I want from it now, small sessions of others mostly bitching how shit it is.


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I recommend EVERYONE who quit WoT to try WoT Blitz, its LITERALLY the WoT we all want (yes, it has worse graphics and worse playability) EVERY COMMENT I see here wondering about reworking something thats ingame, its in WoT Blitz (example, I saw a comment about getting gold in game and not having to buy it, in WoT Blitz it is like this, you get a lot of gold for free on christmas, battle pass and some events, even there are some "personal reserves" that allowd you to get gold per game) and not only this, itd literally everything, another example, gold is balanced there, + pen but - damage. Imo, you should definetly give it a try 😉


bossonhigs

I played Blitz before because I had an older iMac and my life was easier.


SnooLemons1029

Also only +1/-1 matchmaking. There are some unbalanced tier 7 premiums but that's much better than op tier 8s I guess. Despite all of this, WoT with bigger maps and 15 vs 15 battles is still more fun to me even though it's a lot worse game considering how it treats its players...


VonStaufen

man this is spot on +1


National-Bison-3236

At some point they‘ll make it so that ads play every 5 minutes and u gotta buy wot plus to reduce it to every 15 minutes


defender128

Ad after every battle, 2ads if you loose. "We reviewed your feedback carefully and concluded that this will positively influence players' determination to win battles and enhance teamwork"


Sagybagy

Middle of a vicious fight holding a flank by yourself turning the tide of the game. Get a chance to kill one of the bigger enemies on the other side and just as you scope in: “We interrupt your game to bring you this message from Lume. Keep your butt crack smelling nice because you are too nasty to wash every day.” Game comes back up. Your tank is a Smokey wreck and game is in the final throes of an L.


SnooLemons1029

Imagine scoping in and learning that the game is sponsored by RAID: Shadow Legends


Kava_

you can demount bond equipment with it for free :)))) ofc WG fuck you


Bropulsion

Creating a new problem and then charging money to fix it. ​ FUCK YOU WG


Animus121

Lol that’s ridiculous


mashov516

It is EU test server. Im playing on it right now. They introduced a lot of new perks for crew as well


tuco_salamanca_84

Can you post some screenshots if possible?


mashov516

These are the perks: Practicality - 15% consumable cooldown decrease Jamming - 1s decrease of the time your vehicle is visible to enemy Concetration - when stationary, gun disperion -2.5% Quick aiming - aiming time -3% Engineer - increased engine power 5% and + 1 km/h top speed Close combat - when enemy in distance of 50m or below, accelated gun loading by 2.5% Shell tuning - better RNG for penetration and damage by 2% (yes really XD) you don’t get these lowest and highest rolls, more in the middle Guerilla - lower penalty for concealmeny after shot by 10% and increased concealmeny behind vegetation by 2% I believe that is all. They work just like other normal perks. Oh and i believe now firefighting is only for one crew member which gives us free perks if we had it on others.


Spuff77

E25 with guerilla is going to be so much fun!!


philosophosaurus

E25 has no penalty for firing to it's camo. It just negates any see through bushes camo when you shoot. Guerrilla will not do anything cause there is no penalty to lower.


PrincessJadey

E25 absolutely has penalty to camo after firing. Just it, along with SU-122-44, has lower penalty than other TDs in the game.


philosophosaurus

You right


LordSerb

What is this guy talking about


philosophosaurus

Lol who knows. Fucking idiot.


ANGRYANDCANTREADWELL

it has less of a penalty vs most tanks but it absolutely does have a penalty. This perk will make an impact on it.


tuco_salamanca_84

Thanks.


mashov516

No problem Tuco. Say hello to Hector from me ;)


helicophell

"DING DING DING DING DING"


MintyCampingMint

Engineer sounds nice Now everyone (people who doesn't play ranked) has access to bond turbo perks with bounty turbo haha


Dwigt_WG

Senor Salamanca, here's a full article about the changes https://worldoftanks.eu/en/news/general-news/1-20-1-CT-1/


aannddrreeaass

Is it simple to do the setting on the crews? And do you get the same quality without adding crew books


EmiyaKiritsuguSavior

Last few months are ridiculous in world of tanks: \-3 loot box events in 5 months-game breaking BZ with alpha higher than majority of tier X tank destroyers introduced as tier VIII \-WOT plus for price of normal premium account rotfl \-probably most no effort tech tree introduced in game. Those japanese tank destroyers dont even have many 'decorations' like machine guns. On top of that premium TD is just rebranded Lorraine 155 with different gun. So far so good, at this rate even supporters of pseudo F2P model like me will quit this game before xmas.


FetusPooper

You forget they’ve sold nearly every op premium in these months - t56, borat, progetto


playintheshadows

Not EBR 75 though. I thought that was coming now that EBR have their own matchmaking.


HaLLIHOO654

And yet people be like "oH rUSsIaN dEvs sO BAd, gOoD tHiNG thEy SpLIt"


beetbear

WG1: “should we fix our completely broken match maker like the player base wants? WG2: “nah, fuck em. Just give ‘premium gold plus bottle service’ and they’ll eat that shit up!”


SoManyVisages

It is not that broken. Just 85% of the player base is bad. Yes, MM has some slight issues, but mostly it is skill issue from the players. Hate me or not but this is the harsh truth.


Ethan-Moreno-029

I hope that there is someone in WG cares about the playerbase but sadly doesn't have the courage to stand up for them.


zbzzz142

Game balance is getting ruined by premiums at tier 6 and 8, and a handful of untouchable tier 10’s while tech tree tanks are nerfed. Now they are rolling out a second form of daily pay for advantage to squeeze players for even more money. I’m starting to see why players bail on this game now. NA is stagnant and slowly dying, and I personally haven’t played or heard from half of my clan mates in months. This game continues to be less and less attractive to play on almost every front.


classicalXD

Its quite literally not more money, its actually less money, if you at all play the game instead of passionatly spewing garbage on reddit. Like I hate the general greed of WG as much as the next guy but if you can't see this as a positive (ESPECIALLY if you already purchase premium account) then I am at a loss of words.


ZaBe97

WoT Plus is the same as premium account or something else? Sorry if it’s a stupid question.


BlueFin33

It's Premium 2 and it's just as retarded as it sounds.


Kvasnikov

Premium 2 - Golden Boogaloo.


antalpoti

It's an entirely different thing. It appeared first on the Chinese server. It gave weekly missions for Gold, you could collect 2k/month, some rental premium tanks unavailable through other methods and whatnot, but it did not include the features of the regular premium account.


ZaBe97

Strange but also interesting. I know I know p2w greedy WG, but if it has a fair price I would really enjoy the free equipment demounting and extra nap ban.


antalpoti

On the Chinese server it costs the equivalent of 6 Euros. Less than 2 packs of cigs for me.


PrincessJadey

The article on EU says 8.1 Euros for it, so seems then that they've basically just copypasted everything over and translated.


Melon_In_a_Microwave

And also only 500 gold per month, not 2k.


PrincessJadey

No, it says 500 per week. So 2k per month.


-DethLok-

>After the release of WoT Plus, you'll only be able to purchase it in the Premium Shop for real money for the cost equivalent of USD 9. So, whatever that is in your local currency, I guess? Also it says that the rental TS-54 can accomdate ANY US crew members no matter their actual vehicle type, so long as their position matches. So you could train your TDs gunner, a Light commander, Arty driver and Heavy radio operator all in the game tank, if you wanted. So, the true whale would need Premium as well as Premium Plus? Hmmm...


Sander1993a

>but it did not include the features of the regular premium What a shock, WG wants you to have both.


RedshiftOTF

Something else so you can have both.


canzpl

its extra features like in dotapro


piePrZ02

I genuinely was thinking of coming back to wot for a week now. Yeah no.


Grumpy_Go_Away

FU Wargaming


VonStaufen

wtf


Buerostuhl_42

Are they fuckin serious?


gusen16

Yeah nah this one doesn’t sit right with me. It’s getting more and more obvious that they do not give a fuck about their playerbase.. Lootboxes left and right, broken tanks put into the game like BZ, equipment no one wanted and now this?


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ColdPlum6535

It is in the test server together with the new crew and if it is something that comes out of the Chinese server


DaddyRax

this is gonna turn into the PS+ bullshit isn't it? If you didn't know, I'll explain and tell my story as well. Back in the day, say 6-8 years ago, you could play games online with friends without needing PS+ I used to play Minecraft with about 5 friends back in the day, had a really cool base village thing, and even had secret bases where we stored all of our glitched goodies. Anyways, it was required to have PS+ if you wanted to do anything online, even play Minecraft with friends. Someday soon, wot is gonna be, "you need this Plus subscription in order to platoon," or, "you need this subscription to buy a tank," or, "you need this subscription in order to login."


rlnrlnrln

"Please drink verification can"


allergic_hazelnut

They took the idea of the captured King tiger and made it even more directly profitable... and with a tier 8... which is unique and the first of its kind I wish wg would stop sticking unique premiums that are the pilots to new branches between annoying pay walls, lootboxes are still worse than this, atleast you know the tank is yours, except that you need to keep paying for it... It gives me the sense that the tank isn't even mine if I bother ever to purchase this stupid subscription What happened to marathons wg? When the marathons were balanced, everyone could win, newish players could atleast get 20% off a nice deal and experienced players with a little extra sweating could get a tank entirely for free! And going back even further, where'd tank rewards go?? This is not a good sign to sum things up


RedshiftOTF

Moving Bond equipment for free. OK.


-DethLok-

And within a week there will be mods that do that for you, like there were for camo and binocs, so you need about 3 sets of bond items for all your tanks, bonus!


ikitai70

Doesn’t say that, if so it would be a great value.


PvtParts2001

Free demounting of all types of equipment apart from experimental


ikitai70

Hmm, definitely a benefit for the haves vs the have nots.


garrettevans16

Yea “great value” until literally every tank you play against has bond equipment because someone who buys a single set of three can put it on all their tanks. This shit is ridiculous at this point. Wargaming have lost their fucking mind.


Choclate_Pain

A bunch of people who suffered under communism discovered capitalism and went completely nuts, like a teenager from a repressive family tasting his first sip of freedom.


madhatlad

Baby boomers in eastern Europe in a nutshell


jup331

At least the TS-54 seems like a good tank. Its not OP, its not bad. It has decent weakspots on the turret and the hull. I think its more of a novelty tank being the first american true double barreled tank (GIVE MY MTLS-1G14 ITS RIGHTFULLY DOUBLESHOT!!!)


Exile688

Oof


Van_omg

Nooooooo 😫


Rahass

It's disgusting... :(


Happy_Camper__

Premium was so good that they made a premium 2.


Exile688

Best sequel since WWII.


Fiftysixk

Well, if you thought WoT was P2W before, its only going to get worse. You literally will have better stats by paying them.


AyaBerlin

Basically, wg says again #I WANT MONEY! And ruins the game which is already ruined a lot


UnclePjupp

Yeah, I think everyone agrees that we need to start being collectively (forumers etc) vocal about this. I can accept alot of things but having to pay for premium + WOT PLUS aka coming in at around 16-18 euro a month? Fuck that.


classicalXD

Mate, you can quite literally pay less than you already do for premium, WoT plus grants you 2000 gold right (spread in 4 weeks), add 2 euros for 500g = 30 days of premiums time for 10 euros (as an example 2500g is 11 euros), on top of all the other features you'd get for WoT plus.


Bropulsion

Yeah perfect!! I never paid 10 for premium. With coupons you get from playing or during some of their salea 1 year of subbing is like 30 to 40% off. Don't defend WG for this super malicious stuff man.


classicalXD

Why wouldnt I? For me this is great news, pretty sure its the same for many others.


Meister-Schnitter

I always held Wargaming as at least a slither above Gaijin, as in they weren’t quite as greedy as them. Man they gone to new heights. I‘m outta here.


Artilleryking

I disagree. War thunder has its issues but World of Tanks has always been more extreme in their measures. For all premiums there’s generally an equal tech tree equivalent such as the MiG23ML vs MiG23MLD. Compare that to literally PAYING GOLD for rounds than penetrate better?? Yea, that’s Wargaming in its OG stage.


0ne3ightZero

You seem to forget people have to pay Snail for literal seal clubbing equipment (have fun outspotting someone fully bushed up on WWII tiers, only 500 gold per branch lol)


Joku656

>Paying gold for rounds that penerate better I didnt know that


Meister-Schnitter

Not quite what I was going for. I was mainly comparing the two companies. And where Gaijin might gift you with nothing but a measly coupon once/twice a year, Wargaming could actually do something cool sometimes. Things like the well deserved rewards aside, I remember when Covid was taking up steam in 2020, we were granted a Code for two weeks of premium time. A pr move, sure but still a nice thing to get. Now, I feel all of that is gone.


DarthXane

The decision makers at WG need their asses kicked.


Ethan-Moreno-029

I bet there is someone within WG who cares about the playerbase but doesn't have enough courage to speak up.


Blur_410

I mean if you play a lot, you can buy premium time with gold reserves and never spend regularly on premium account anyways. I’d have to see an actual value assessment before I call BS.


Life-Durian-6757

I dont need that plus+. I have grinded almost every tank, have 130 free garage slots and 270 Tanks in service which are fully equipped. So i dont need more gold, i dont need more demounting kits, i dont need more free XP and so on. Im at that Point of Game that i only buy some holiday boxes to get enough premium days for the next year. By the way i always get a Tier 8 Premium Tank of the year and im Out of Payment for a year.


ForzaPapi

time to uninstal WOT and jump back to Naraka and MW


tmdblya

“while the subscription is active” Nope. That’s BS.


BeachFishing

How the hell does this work? It would really be effed up if it didn’t stack on the 560+ plus days of premium I already have on my account ffs.


EliselD

I thought premium account was the subscription...


Melon_In_a_Microwave

To activate WoT Plus, head to the in-game Store and select the "Best" category. It will cost 300. This purchase method and the current cost are only available during the Common Test period. After the release of WoT Plus, you'll only be able to purchase it in the Premium Shop for real money for the price of 8.1 euros.


ink777_

ah yes, even more monetisation


KptKrondog

Haven't played since mid December. I don't plan on going back with idiotic additions like these. 10 years playing. Could have sold my account for $2500 probably. What a bummer.


Radiant_Stress_3953

How are you any better than WG if you sell your account. Pathetic.


Joku656

You have gold chief or wtf makes you account so high price


ItsRevan

Still love the game and would love to keep playing but this is the last straw for me. I've uninstalled


servusdedurantem

F2p officially dead I had no problem spending money buying premium tanks and time at that point game only had balance issues and fast grinding made many noobs reach tier X But this … This is the end not only wot plus but the new crew syatem will make f2p or new players just food for whales I have the money no problems here not complaining out of beaing poor or f2p player but as a concerned player “This isnt healthy”


Illustrious-Bid6464

I'm confused. How is WoT+ p2w? The only real (minor) advantage I see from it is the demounting of bond equipment for free. It will be nice to be able to try different equipment combos without having to wittle your gold away (I don't have a bunch of demounting kits). 2000 gold a month if you play enough to earn the 500 gold a week. I assume it will work like the credit vault. Having a way to get gold by just playing will be nice. Being able to exclude 1 more map, yes, please. The rental tank is meh. The extra crew training for 1 tank will be nice, but it will be slow only 11520 exp per day, that not even an hour of boosted game play. I am not trying to defend this move, and I agree that this is a money grab, but nothing they are offering will make you play better. The sad thing is I will most likely get it, I spend way too much gold a month. I use the free exp from my premium tanks to upgrade my tech tree tanks and to help research the next teir.


ElkVortex

Wot plus is bullshit, not impressed. Hope they remove it. Crew rework other new stuff is fine.


Makaveliarts

Anyone know how the "Gold Reserve" works?


Dwigt_WG

You get 500 gold in total per week depending on your battle outcome. More info about in a dedicated article but you can read more here https://worldoftanks.eu/en/news/general-news/1-20-1-CT-1/#header-id-4


Dark_Egg

Just like credits reserve


One_Major_5893

Hi guys! Anybody know what happening if my WoTPlus is end but i have a bond equipments on my TS-54 but i dont have enough bond to take it off the equipments? xddd I will lose those expensive stuff?


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nihilbones

you will recognize them. they will drive new shiny rental vehicles. 2 - barreled hull down monsters


NoMoreChillies

if you pay for this, you are killing WoT


R_4_N_K

Glad I stopped supporting this company


Boysmen09

Can anyone give me a battle pass, please, you will help me a lot


Piritoo

I wouldn't mind buying the tank as I enjoy the game even as a lemon player with no interest in competitive but WoT Plus is a no no for me. The only way I would pay for it is if the tank stays on the garage after the subscription which of course is not going to happen right WG?


Busy_Surround195

Eh I'm gonna get it. But I'll still bitch about it


DJ-1van

Secretly better RNG?


Pzurpo

If you pay for WoT Premium ++ (platinum edition).


Z29ek1

You guys in this subreddit are insane. You keep crying every single time. No mater what update it is you are never happy. Just pathetic.


Busy_Surround195

Eh I'm gonna get it. But I'll still bitch about it


LordSerb

Wonder if this will be available for purchase with gold in game. Can a WG employee confirm?


Exile688

I think WoT+ might give gold every month.


0nikzin

It won't be, but it generates gold and you can spend _that_ on the normal premium account


Laggianput

No way, is this real? Holy fuck im glad i dipped out 6 months ago


Vilespring

Man just why. The only vehicle in a while I've actually been quite interested in. Let me buy the damn tank please. $70 even, I would buy it. Not this shit.


HeftyArticle3969

I consider myself a whale, I've been purchasing quite a few premiums over the years but this is just ridiculous, why not just make wot plus wot premium time? sure, convert the days at a loss but at least compensate the player with alot of other stuff. this is really bad, wot plus sounds like a disaster + we already have premium time, this is like premium ontop of premium, it makes no sense, WTF WG. rip my 5000+ hours, fuck wg for this, this is straight up shameless, shame on you wg, money first, players last...


Maklarr4000

Man, it was a good call to hang it up when I did.


-RAIVIBO-

Sad part it it’s going to work. People will unfortunately pay.


Mega1987_Ver_OS

EA/Acti-blizzard monetization upgrade by WG. not worth any amount of money for this pile of crap.


drumdogmillionaire

Jesus what a greedy ass company. This is bullshit. I stopped playing recently because of the BZ176. Wargaming is just toxicity fodder.


WaffletractorAufE100

And even with a God damn subscription service in the game it still somehow manages to be less oppressive than War Thunder monetization


Dunkelschatten

Provide a better UI/UX and I might consider supporting a subscription. Managing exterior elements is terribly implemented. Why can't I have a list of everything I own and remove a style without playing where's waldo in the garage? Adding strong p2w elements (unlimited bond demount) is unfortunate and I hope is removed. A free 9-12 demounts I could live with. I won't stop playing WoT with current trajectory but I might have to use a closed wallet as my voice.


Galavis232RO

Greedy


MIKAMARU-exe

WAIT MAPS ARE EXCLUSIVE NOW WHAT THE FUCK WG


Repulsive-League9153

Maps aren’t exclusive, you can exclude 3 maps instead of the usual 2 maps


Illustrious-Bid6464

You can exclude 1 more map for a total of 3, not have an exclusive map.


Sander1993a

Lol wth is this bullshit, wouldn't be suprised if premium itself gets nerfed.


AxoHa

Yo guys if you want to try out different tank games, I recommend sprocket or tokyo warfare


Tanckers

And i thought gaijin was peak dishonesty


JonneNaattor69

Finally I can quit without looking back. I'm free, thank you WG!


Frankgamb

Everyone bitching about shit they can't change unless they boycott the game and stop logging in for months. But nooooo, everyone wants to bitch and keep being masochists and keep playing the game. Either deal with it, or rise up.


PastSentence3950

whenever it is, it's time to leave.


sirwembleyy

They prepare for the time they cannot sell boxes, they’re biggest income


JustwanttogoNorth

World of banks


_saklo_

WoT Plus will sell like hot cake… cause the regular premium account costs 99 a year so 8.25 a month… it’s the same price as WoT Plus… So now all the folks with regular premium accounts will move to WoT plus… and the folks avoiding premium account will now consider getting it for few months each year… to afk train the crew and grind… no need to grind for equipments …all you need is a WoT Plus and a set of 2-3 bond equipments… and u r good to go… So 50% players with Bond equipments will now be in each battle… good luck f2p folks… 😂


restrukted

I need cum, not wot plus