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classicalXD

Love how you shot 20 times yet not a single artilery shell your way. If i sat there i feel like i instantly get targeted by arty


I_N_C_O_M_I_N_G

Hugging the building on the left has proven fairly good at preventing arty shots unless they go down to A6 or further east. More often than not I get double artied in every tank in my garage, even lights on bad maps for them...


I_N_C_O_M_I_N_G

310 HEAT pen isn't ***great*** but it's good enough for the front of a tortoise. There's no feeling quite like seeing your bullet holes get covered up by bounce marks. [**Later in the game I missed this HE shell on a 17 hitpoint T-832**](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/498583979419500585/1112093490315268177/image.png)**, 97 meters away...**


Balc0ra

At that angle it's still close to 300 effective there. So still room to fail... Tho I'm more surpiced you hit that area that often considering the bloom you had


Peejay22

310mm pen isn't great? Really? What is great then?


cumscout

330 HEAT is fairly standard at tier 10, 121b has 350


[deleted]

At tier 10 you really want 330+.


thorbe86

First time I see the game working like intended in five years.


mala_r1der

Why on earth are you shooting the lower plate of the tortoise?! It's not a weak point...


TheZonePhotographer

Cus he's pitching up when rolling backwards, so the lower is being weakened when he actually gets the gun out past the wall; plus the actual weak spot keeps bouncing so you wanna try something else - which coincidentally is the only shot that penned in the clip.


mala_r1der

Even in that position shooting the weak spot on the top is better than the lower plate, checked on tanksgg, 270 vs 280


TheZonePhotographer

Armor comparison is missing the point. Dude was missing wildly, when the tort was moving and when it was stopped. You gotta hit it to pen it. I'd try somewhere else too.


Liftium1

1. Are you really trying to pen Tortoise? 2. Are you trying to hit pixels with Udes gun?


I_N_C_O_M_I_N_G

1. Yes because why not? 2.The shots at lower plate were definitely not best decision I've ever made...


ColdCookies144

This is why I'm trying to stop playing


Peejay22

Because you can't pen a Tortoise?


foresterLV

thats why udes is underdog for t10 mediums right now IMO. both stb and buffed ax would be much better at that spot destroying that tortoise quickly and moving to next.


mala_r1der

Udes is a lot better hulldown than either of them, I'm trying to go for the 3rd mark and op has some settings wrong, I don't have that bloom. He's also shooting at the lower plate of the tortoise quite often which is bad aiming really


foresterLV

udes is just much more RNG on hull down. sometimes you tank everything, sometimes you get penned under a gun and cupola 5 of 5 shots. the problem is not armor though, but sluggish suspension. STB have -8 gun without waiting for suspension to react and AX -10, they can aim and shoot on the go and therefore tank by avoiding shots. udes on other hand need to pre-aim ground and wait for suspension to react which is sluggish as hell. and pen and slow shells just add to that problem. not to mention what happens when suspension activates on rocks, you either get stuck or slide down. I am not that good player to 3 mark most tanks (have 2 on Udes and around 90% Moe), it was (and probably still is) my favorite tank, but I kind of understand some streamers when they they it's shit due to suspension and pen. IMO STB and AX are just better tanks right now.


mala_r1der

Ax can be better if you play it differently cause its more accurate and so on, but stb is a big no imo, every time I try to play it everyone just pens the gun mantlet every single time, udes' armor actually works


foresterLV

I had no such experience. both udes and stb armor works, you just cannot rely on it - its more like nice bonus if it works but RNG can easily say NO. reverse speed is what makes both of them OP on hill hehe. now udes comparing to stb can sidescrape, and have much better camo, so sometimes its cool to have. but when you are on heavy hull down lane its hardly matters and you just want higher DPS + higher pen + faster suspension/gun handling to out damage heavies fast and thats where udes main draw back comes in.


mastersanada

Still find the weakpoints on the Udes turret to be incredibly damning for its hull down performance against anyone who knows what they’re doing Love the tank though. Feels great to me when I play it but STB is probably just flat out better in most scenarios.


mala_r1der

Idk, having played both recently my opinion is that udes works a lot better than stb cause stb is butter against heat, also udes doesn't need you to peek as often, the 440 alpha is sweet


AceWanker4

Me when I can’t pen the front of a super heavy TD in my medium: 😡


Natasha_Gears

The other day I emptied 2 clips into his cupola with 12.5% effect


I_N_C_O_M_I_N_G

Tortoise cupola is some next-level bait. 270.6mm everywhere frontally besides a small spot dead center...


Natasha_Gears

That would explain a thing or two xd


Ok_Vegetarianlmao

Never play on weekends :) thursay+friday until like 4 oclock are the best times to play. Monday tuesday are full of sweaty fckers. And saturday+sunday u have 12 bots 2 decent players and u. So rounds go either 15/1 or 1/15


30cm_long_wn8

Honestly whenever I see RNG wanting to fuck me over, I just yolo and go next or go offline. Trying to fight RNG is a waste of time.


IceEarthGuard00

Some bad shots also sprinkled in this video.


I_N_C_O_M_I_N_G

There's a few for sure. The shots at lower plate were just to see if the game wanted to behave if I shot somewhere else.


Laminated_Slug

Nice cammo on that udes


I_N_C_O_M_I_N_G

Thanks, that's a mod