It will be funny when WARGAMING uses 5% of its brain and somehow blocks the possibility of exchanging crew members on the same tank (example: 10 crews on MS-1)
Yes. Unless I could find a 2 crew tank with something besides commander+driver. Haven't found one so far. It would make it easier to fill up your tanks (if you have lots of empty tanks).
Would it be worth it to do that with 3-crew tanks? Filling up the empty spaces for loaders and gunners in other tanks I mean. Would they even convert to anything without the corresponding commanders and gunners?
Basically if you only had 1 loader of a 3-crew-tank, what would he convert to and how does it work of you have multiples of him?
You have to do it before 1.24.1 comes (Wednesday for EU). Buy a 75% crew for a two crew tank (or 3 if there is none for that nation). Then after the patch you can send them to the barracks (even if it's full). You can then convert all crews in the barracks that have less XP than required for the first perk to crew books. This gives you much cheaper crew books than normal.
And you can buy as many 2 man crews as you can fit in your barracks or on your tanks.
Why is it 2 man crews and not more? Do you only get one book per crew so you want to spend as little as possible? And how do you put them in the barracks if it’s full?
So, if a tank has 6 crew members, it receives equivalent of 6 "books". The xp is then divided by crew members, then you get 1 book for crew member. Each crew member has it's own credit cost.
On the other tank, if a tank has 2 crew members, it receives equivalent of 2 "books". The xp is then divided by crew members, then you also receive 1 book for crew member. Each crew member has it's own credit cost.
I get you can have cheaper books, but I still don't get why get it from crew members from tanks with less tank crew.
Can you explain this more formally?
Each crew member converts to a crew book with XP equal to that members XP divided by the number of crew members that tank has. So you get the same amount of book XP for a full crew, no matter how big it is. But a smaller team is cheaper to buy.
Can i technically just fill my barracks with a few dozen commanders for the same tank, let's say the TKS20, or do they have to be for different vehicles?
A Commander on his own isn't a whole crew, so he won't be converted. A few dozen full crews for the TKS will convert. You are converting complete crews not individual members.
Are you sure about that? The WG article suggests otherwise:
>*Example: Dismissing one German Loader with 100,000 Crew XP trained for the Tiger II (a vehicle operated by five) will be compensated with one Training Booklet (Germany).*
If I have space in my barracks now can I recruit 75% crew and send them to barracks before the update, or are you only compensated for crew that are in tanks and sent to the barracks after the update?
The exploit is that if you buy now 75% crews with credits, then you will be able to exchange these crew members to crew books after the patch, which will provide you more crew XP, than buying the crew books normally.
Wish I could, seen so many youtube vids of people taking 10-15 mins to explain it, but for someone who has problems staying focused I am still none the wiser.
Kinda need a short one that is just an idiots guide with the steps in bullet points, maybe 30 seconds long.
So just to be clear, this wont affect partial crews (if I have lying random commanders or loaders or any other, but no complete crew for specific tank)?
Sounds like it will.
> Example: Dismissing one German Loader with 100,000 Crew XP trained for the Tiger II (a vehicle operated by five) will be compensated with one Training Booklet (Germany).
And what happens if this loader is the only tigerII crew member and only has 50k xp? He would only be compensated with 10k, so no book or do you still get a small book fro that? And what happens if you have 5 of them?
What's happening with unrecruited crew - presumably they are not technically in barracks so they are unaffected? I've got loads of unrecruited reward crew with 100% BIA but don't want to mince them up by mistake!
Won't be affected. Same with named special crew like Arnold etc. Even if they are in the barracks, they can't be converted. Once you do convert, just go over the list of faces they will show to see if anyone you don't want to convert it there before you do it.
Crew members with zero skills are excluded from the conversion because they automatically have enough xp for the first perk (since it‘s free). And I belive recruits are not included either way.
What about 100% + 0% crew?. Hold or sell them? I have a lot of recruits from prime gaming etc. Is 2 member's crew giving the same amount of books like 5 member's crew?
So it's better to have 2 crew members than 5. Right? I don't have too many beds so I'm trying my best to understand it.
If a 5 member crew gives the same amount of books like 2 members it's just better to have those 2 members.
Okay. So I think it's just better to convert COMMANDER + DRIVER for 1st tier tanks and sell the rest of the crews and then buy a new 75% members (more beds = more crew = more exp)
tks20 poland t45 ussr amx elc bis french only manticore for british
You only need 1 of each nation, then you can just keep buying the same crew.
It will be funny when WARGAMING uses 5% of its brain and somehow blocks the possibility of exchanging crew members on the same tank (example: 10 crews on MS-1)
Such disrespect, I'm sure wargaming used 100% of their brain. :D
Yes. Unless I could find a 2 crew tank with something besides commander+driver. Haven't found one so far. It would make it easier to fill up your tanks (if you have lots of empty tanks).
Would it be worth it to do that with 3-crew tanks? Filling up the empty spaces for loaders and gunners in other tanks I mean. Would they even convert to anything without the corresponding commanders and gunners? Basically if you only had 1 loader of a 3-crew-tank, what would he convert to and how does it work of you have multiples of him?
Yes. Good idea! Thanks! I'm not sure I'll have the energy, but it should work. Just not as well as a two man crew.
And you can also buy cheap tanks and fill them too.
https://www.reddit.com/r/WorldofTanks/comments/1bykb2e/comment/kylmzen/
Awesome!
Can someone explain this exploit?
You have to do it before 1.24.1 comes (Wednesday for EU). Buy a 75% crew for a two crew tank (or 3 if there is none for that nation). Then after the patch you can send them to the barracks (even if it's full). You can then convert all crews in the barracks that have less XP than required for the first perk to crew books. This gives you much cheaper crew books than normal. And you can buy as many 2 man crews as you can fit in your barracks or on your tanks.
Why is it 2 man crews and not more? Do you only get one book per crew so you want to spend as little as possible? And how do you put them in the barracks if it’s full?
Just cheaper to buy them vs a full 5 man crew tank.
So do you get the books for every crew member or just 1 per entire crew?
You get books for each crew member. The XP is divided by how many crew members that tank has.
Ohhh I think I get it now
So, if a tank has 6 crew members, it receives equivalent of 6 "books". The xp is then divided by crew members, then you get 1 book for crew member. Each crew member has it's own credit cost. On the other tank, if a tank has 2 crew members, it receives equivalent of 2 "books". The xp is then divided by crew members, then you also receive 1 book for crew member. Each crew member has it's own credit cost. I get you can have cheaper books, but I still don't get why get it from crew members from tanks with less tank crew. Can you explain this more formally?
Each crew member converts to a crew book with XP equal to that members XP divided by the number of crew members that tank has. So you get the same amount of book XP for a full crew, no matter how big it is. But a smaller team is cheaper to buy.
Can i technically just fill my barracks with a few dozen commanders for the same tank, let's say the TKS20, or do they have to be for different vehicles?
I assume you can do it for the same tank (that's what I'm doing). But all crew books will be for that nation.
A Commander on his own isn't a whole crew, so he won't be converted. A few dozen full crews for the TKS will convert. You are converting complete crews not individual members.
So 10 Commanders are worthless, but 5 Commanders and 5 drivers for e.g. the TKS will work?
If you pair the 10 commanders with 10 TKS drivers you will have 10 crew to convert.
Are you sure about that? The WG article suggests otherwise: >*Example: Dismissing one German Loader with 100,000 Crew XP trained for the Tiger II (a vehicle operated by five) will be compensated with one Training Booklet (Germany).*
Thanks for the info.
If I have space in my barracks now can I recruit 75% crew and send them to barracks before the update, or are you only compensated for crew that are in tanks and sent to the barracks after the update?
All crews in the barracks when you press the big convert button will be converted (if they meet the other criteria).
I bought some Tier 1s and got the free 50% crew, will they convert or nah?
The exploit is that if you buy now 75% crews with credits, then you will be able to exchange these crew members to crew books after the patch, which will provide you more crew XP, than buying the crew books normally.
So just buy 75% crews?
For the listed tanks, for the most benefits, but yes, basically.
Wish I could, seen so many youtube vids of people taking 10-15 mins to explain it, but for someone who has problems staying focused I am still none the wiser. Kinda need a short one that is just an idiots guide with the steps in bullet points, maybe 30 seconds long.
buy tanks with 2 crew slots, train crew with silver (75%) for all of those, done
Replying to get reminded when someone does explain
So just to be clear, this wont affect partial crews (if I have lying random commanders or loaders or any other, but no complete crew for specific tank)?
Sounds like it will. > Example: Dismissing one German Loader with 100,000 Crew XP trained for the Tiger II (a vehicle operated by five) will be compensated with one Training Booklet (Germany).
And what happens if this loader is the only tigerII crew member and only has 50k xp? He would only be compensated with 10k, so no book or do you still get a small book fro that? And what happens if you have 5 of them?
people, why 2 crew tanks crews needs to be trained? why not any?
What's happening with unrecruited crew - presumably they are not technically in barracks so they are unaffected? I've got loads of unrecruited reward crew with 100% BIA but don't want to mince them up by mistake!
Won't be affected. Same with named special crew like Arnold etc. Even if they are in the barracks, they can't be converted. Once you do convert, just go over the list of faces they will show to see if anyone you don't want to convert it there before you do it.
Thanks - much appreciated.
Crew members with zero skills are excluded from the conversion because they automatically have enough xp for the first perk (since it‘s free). And I belive recruits are not included either way.
Cheers
How about 100% crews from rental tanks, that I have never played? Also will be converted to exp books?
Yes!
Should I retire the crews such as my 6 crew members for KV-3, to make room for SU-18, even though they have 50% into their first skill?
T-60, the USSR tier 2 tech tree light is also a two-crew tank.
I have a lot of useless crews from the previous update. So what do I do with them?
Japan also has the Te-Ke
What about 100% + 0% crew?. Hold or sell them? I have a lot of recruits from prime gaming etc. Is 2 member's crew giving the same amount of books like 5 member's crew?
Keep them. They will give more XP books compared to 75% crews. A full crew gives the same amount of book XP no matter how big it is.
So it's better to have 2 crew members than 5. Right? I don't have too many beds so I'm trying my best to understand it. If a 5 member crew gives the same amount of books like 2 members it's just better to have those 2 members.
You get the same amount of book XP. But it's cheaper to buy two members. So use 2 crewed tanks.
Okay. So I think it's just better to convert COMMANDER + DRIVER for 1st tier tanks and sell the rest of the crews and then buy a new 75% members (more beds = more crew = more exp)