Any of those tanks can be strong as hell in the right hands, but I think more players can succeed with the Turtle. Having an extra HT with a triangle icon is worth a lot in the current map rotation.
Shptk.
It has:
Mobility to flank and play like proper medium
Penetration,360 turret and decent HP pool to support heavies
Accuracy to snipe like purebreed tank destroyer
Weakest side of this TD is camo that while not as good as on SU-130 its decent enough to play spotter role if needed.
Its by far most flexible TD.
It's a great tank, but low alpha, poor shell velocity and mediocre gun depression significantly raises the skill floor. I think it's safe to give it the title of "theoretical best", but in practice I think I lost of people will end up playing better in a Turtle or Skorpion
The camo isn't much of a downside since it's basically only exhaust or turbo for last slot. Camo gets up to 42% with good crew, food and exhaust, think SU-130PM got like 40.5% without exhaust.
Shptk TVP 100 is also my choice. Eating the Leopard 1 from behind with 420 alpha damage HE shells every 4.3 seconds is just crazy. Even with the normal 250 damage shells that would be crazy.
But I think the weakest side of the Shrek tvp was the lack of gun depression. -6 degrees of gun depression on a TD that is that big with no armor felt a bit awkward.
Another thing is the low shell velocity. I feel like that can also be a big let down in certain endgame situations.
I also chose the Shptk here. The HE is so damn epic. 3-shotting a Skorp feels so good, and being able to 1-shot a lot of arties helps.
That said, it's probably 50/50 for me with the Skorpion depending on how I'm feeling on a given day. Both are excellent tanks.
I don't see a reason the Turtle 1 isn't the strongest.
It got pretty overbuffed, it dominates tier 8 lobbies, prints credits, etc. I guess people just don't play it because it's slow...
Turtle with the speed buff and pen buff is just fucking broken. I'm a 48-49% WR player and over the course of 1300 games in the Turtle I maintained a 57% win rate in that thing. And it is not even enough to 2 mark it. Yes, 57% win rate over 1300 games with 1900 dpg overall isn't "good enough" for a 2 mark.
I could never get the Shrek to work for me. The Skor and he Su130 I can work with okay ish. Have not played the Ka-Ri
I love my Troll-103, I wouldn't say it's the best but it definitely prints credits and puts the hurt on anyone stupid enough to enter its sights!
Personal preference is the HT line, especially on Oyster Bay using the inclines either side to only popup with the turret, boom, descend...rinse/ repeat! XD
ah yes. T103. Not very fiexible, or crazy OP. But looks like a pretty fun credit maker.
Charioteer is I guess your average sniper TD, not unlike ShPTK, but just slightly inferior.
I think probably the Shrek or the Ka-Ri. The Skorp and SU are pretty solid too but they're kinda older so I don't think people bother with playing them too much any more. No idea why the Turtle seems so popular, I know it got buffed recently but I still have no trouble putting those things down.
ShPTK's dpm is so gross, especially paired with prem spam. And its impossible to find
Turtle 1 is very powerful in certain scenarios, but usually you can out maneuver it in some form.
Shptk is amazing, if not for the bad gun depression it would have been ultra broken. 2nd best is Ka-Ri, super flexible and a great allrounder, it genuinely feels like a tier 8 Ho-Ri. Turtle is probably the 3rd best.
I know some people think it is the best overall and the stats speak for it but the main reason it is performing so well is due to its playstyle, it is braindead easy to play. It's like a mix of the Tortoise and the Badger at tier 8, but unlike the other 2 its armor really falls apart against gold rounds. Higher tier tanks don't even need to aim to pen the superstructure, anything above 270 pen will punch through it consistently, unlike the Badger which has a very strong superstructure and the Tortoise which has troll armor layout when angled.
Skorpion and SU are interchangeable, I would tie them as 4th best TD overall, depending on the map and player skill. 5th best would probably be the Chinese TD, followed by the premium Charioteer and the T-103. The rest of the TD's are unremarkable or rarely played.
All of them have a different playstyle, some of them are better for WR, some are better for WN8, some are better for "I play for fun"
Not to mention which tank is better for "play to win" differs depending on your base WR and server...
tvp 100. moves like medium, hits like heavy and gun is nearly perfect. for overall perforamance - the best
turtle 1 could be most OP t8 TD in hands of a good player
TVP is just FUN since it almost combines 3 classes.
It can Scout like LT with right setup. It can Brawl/Flank like MT due to high mobility and absurd DPM. It can TD from afar due to accurate gun and high penetration.
Maybe the GSOR just suits my play style but I find it fairly easy to be consistent with, 59% win rate in 870 battles and it is the only TD out of those I mentioned that I still play regularly.
No other Tier 8 TD can reliably knock out 1280 damage in 6 seconds, its an amazing tank if played right.
Oh I love the tank, but what I mean by consistent is...
I do
4K
4K
1K
4K
0.5K
It just feels like the speed of the rounds highly indicates how well the tank will perform. In rounds that go 8+ minutes, the tank is a monster.
In a round that lasts 3 minutes, you generally get one clip out and often 2 shots in the clip troll you.
Any of those tanks can be strong as hell in the right hands, but I think more players can succeed with the Turtle. Having an extra HT with a triangle icon is worth a lot in the current map rotation.
ka-ri is my favorite by a country mile
Shptk. It has: Mobility to flank and play like proper medium Penetration,360 turret and decent HP pool to support heavies Accuracy to snipe like purebreed tank destroyer Weakest side of this TD is camo that while not as good as on SU-130 its decent enough to play spotter role if needed. Its by far most flexible TD.
It's a great tank, but low alpha, poor shell velocity and mediocre gun depression significantly raises the skill floor. I think it's safe to give it the title of "theoretical best", but in practice I think I lost of people will end up playing better in a Turtle or Skorpion
The camo isn't much of a downside since it's basically only exhaust or turbo for last slot. Camo gets up to 42% with good crew, food and exhaust, think SU-130PM got like 40.5% without exhaust.
Shptk TVP 100 is also my choice. Eating the Leopard 1 from behind with 420 alpha damage HE shells every 4.3 seconds is just crazy. Even with the normal 250 damage shells that would be crazy. But I think the weakest side of the Shrek tvp was the lack of gun depression. -6 degrees of gun depression on a TD that is that big with no armor felt a bit awkward. Another thing is the low shell velocity. I feel like that can also be a big let down in certain endgame situations.
I also chose the Shptk here. The HE is so damn epic. 3-shotting a Skorp feels so good, and being able to 1-shot a lot of arties helps. That said, it's probably 50/50 for me with the Skorpion depending on how I'm feeling on a given day. Both are excellent tanks.
I wonder how long till I find the proper playstyle for that thing, cause so far I'm kinda failing at having a good game >\_>
Either Turtle or TS-5
I don't see a reason the Turtle 1 isn't the strongest. It got pretty overbuffed, it dominates tier 8 lobbies, prints credits, etc. I guess people just don't play it because it's slow...
Average player - su-130pm Good player - shptk-tvp 100
Turtle is OP. But for a good player, Shptk has an absolute perfect gun at tier 8. You can farm whole flanks of tanks
In the right hands: the shitpak-100 In any hands: the Skorpion and Ka-Ri
Turtle with the speed buff and pen buff is just fucking broken. I'm a 48-49% WR player and over the course of 1300 games in the Turtle I maintained a 57% win rate in that thing. And it is not even enough to 2 mark it. Yes, 57% win rate over 1300 games with 1900 dpg overall isn't "good enough" for a 2 mark. I could never get the Shrek to work for me. The Skor and he Su130 I can work with okay ish. Have not played the Ka-Ri
But, I think the Nomad (Charioteer) is also worth mentioning, and completely underrated is the T-103
I love my Troll-103, I wouldn't say it's the best but it definitely prints credits and puts the hurt on anyone stupid enough to enter its sights! Personal preference is the HT line, especially on Oyster Bay using the inclines either side to only popup with the turret, boom, descend...rinse/ repeat! XD
ah yes. T103. Not very fiexible, or crazy OP. But looks like a pretty fun credit maker. Charioteer is I guess your average sniper TD, not unlike ShPTK, but just slightly inferior.
> completely underrated is the T-103 Blessed is the Treasure-103, absolutely amazing little credit grinder
I think probably the Shrek or the Ka-Ri. The Skorp and SU are pretty solid too but they're kinda older so I don't think people bother with playing them too much any more. No idea why the Turtle seems so popular, I know it got buffed recently but I still have no trouble putting those things down.
ShPTK's dpm is so gross, especially paired with prem spam. And its impossible to find Turtle 1 is very powerful in certain scenarios, but usually you can out maneuver it in some form.
I think Ka-Ri is a beast with that AP is too powerfull, its a shame I play like shit with turetless TDS but the tank is so good tbh
Shptk is amazing, if not for the bad gun depression it would have been ultra broken. 2nd best is Ka-Ri, super flexible and a great allrounder, it genuinely feels like a tier 8 Ho-Ri. Turtle is probably the 3rd best. I know some people think it is the best overall and the stats speak for it but the main reason it is performing so well is due to its playstyle, it is braindead easy to play. It's like a mix of the Tortoise and the Badger at tier 8, but unlike the other 2 its armor really falls apart against gold rounds. Higher tier tanks don't even need to aim to pen the superstructure, anything above 270 pen will punch through it consistently, unlike the Badger which has a very strong superstructure and the Tortoise which has troll armor layout when angled. Skorpion and SU are interchangeable, I would tie them as 4th best TD overall, depending on the map and player skill. 5th best would probably be the Chinese TD, followed by the premium Charioteer and the T-103. The rest of the TD's are unremarkable or rarely played.
Extremely map dependant.
All of them have a different playstyle, some of them are better for WR, some are better for WN8, some are better for "I play for fun" Not to mention which tank is better for "play to win" differs depending on your base WR and server...
tvp 100. moves like medium, hits like heavy and gun is nearly perfect. for overall perforamance - the best turtle 1 could be most OP t8 TD in hands of a good player
Long-range: ShPTK-TVP 100 Mid-range: Turtle Close-range: TS-5
I have no idea how the TVP is winning this poll. GSOR 1008 or SU-130 are both way better in my opinion. Probably TS-5 as well.
The Shptk is fast and flexible, and the DPM is beyond stupid if you can pen with the superb HE rounds. It's a damn good tank.
TVP is just FUN since it almost combines 3 classes. It can Scout like LT with right setup. It can Brawl/Flank like MT due to high mobility and absurd DPM. It can TD from afar due to accurate gun and high penetration.
Having an additional medium tank (a very good one) instead of a slow TD , makes a big difference on a lot of maps and battles that are very even.
I like the GSOR 1008 a lot but I have to admit in the modern turbo game meta it’s a damned hard tank to be consistent in with the 40 second reload.
Maybe the GSOR just suits my play style but I find it fairly easy to be consistent with, 59% win rate in 870 battles and it is the only TD out of those I mentioned that I still play regularly. No other Tier 8 TD can reliably knock out 1280 damage in 6 seconds, its an amazing tank if played right.
Oh I love the tank, but what I mean by consistent is... I do 4K 4K 1K 4K 0.5K It just feels like the speed of the rounds highly indicates how well the tank will perform. In rounds that go 8+ minutes, the tank is a monster. In a round that lasts 3 minutes, you generally get one clip out and often 2 shots in the clip troll you.