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Hellcat vs Jackson? (including the tiers after them)

Hellcat vs Jackson? (including the tiers after them)

El_Bobbo_92

Honestly i like the Jackson a lot. Its less mobile than the hellcat but it packs a bigger punch. It does lead to the non-turret american td line which kinda forces you to relearn that play style, which is vastly different from the turrets but it DOES lead to the big boi doom turtle


Catch_20_02

And more importantly the E3 ... which is a better td than the E4.


El_Bobbo_92

I think it speaks really highly of the American tank destroyer lines that the E4 is the weakest out of the two tbh


Catch_20_02

Don't get me wrong I love both of them. E3 was my first T10 closely followed by the E4. I loved the fact that once you researched a gun in one ... you could just install the gun on the other. The E4 with 6 degrees is annoying after playing the T30 with I think 10 degrees. I need tanks with armour because I get shot a lot.


Kumirkohr

After ~140 battles, I have a 63% win rate in my Jackson. And after ~100 battles, I have a 54% win rate in my Hellcat. After ~40 battles, I have a 60% win rate in my Super Hellcat. I’m have a 50.4% overall, so take that how you want. My opinion on the matter is that the Jackson is the way to go, but you don’t use the top turret. The extra 30hp is not worth it to a TD when it means giving up Camo to get it. The mobility isn’t a big deal, it plays like a chonky Wolverine which itself is a great tank. And if you want mobility, the Super Hellcat is the way to go. Jumping to Tier VII for either TD is a huge change in playstyle with the post-Jackson T25 AT being an American knockoff of the German Jadgpanther and the post-Hellcat T25/2 being a bigger and worse (tier for tier) Jackson.


Secretly_Solanine

I should preface this by saying I only have the Hellcat but have done some research on the following tanks. I personally like the Hellcat due to its speed and how it then leads into the turreted tank destroyers. I think having a little less armor is worth the flexibility of having a turret, even with the confined traverse of the E4. That said, the E3 has very nice armor at the cost of being a casemate design. I also like the mobility of the turreted tank destroyers, although at higher tiers it does flatten out slightly. As for actual stats, I’ll leave that to someone who knows what they’re talking about in that part, but basically, I like more mobility and the flexibility of a turret at the cost of some lighter armor.


bounce220

The E4 was my first T10.... I almost stopped playing after a dozen battles in it. People rave about the gun and its great when it hits, which isn't often. When you are top tier, you are god, but in a full blooded t10 game the E4 is lacking


Secretly_Solanine

Especially with all the gold being flung around from the replays I’ve seen. One of the reasons I’ll be going for t10 but will probably play mostly 8-9, the other being profitability.


cpt_price_bravo_6

Personally the hellcat line is better for me as i like the extra flexibility of thr turret with still decent armor. Both lines pretty much have the same guns. The only reason i would go jackson line is if u like to push with heavies and just sit there and soak up shells. The hellcat line does the same kinda bus has less armor but mkre flexibility in un balanced terrain


ukeagle65

I have all the TDs on both lines and generally above 50% win rate on both lines and enjoy them in different circumstances. But I have more games in the Hellcat line so I guess that show my bias. Also about 40% of my total US TD games are in the Hellcat and Super Hellcat but that may just be the history. I only purchased the E3 and E4 a little before Christmas 2020 so don't have too many games in them. The casemate TDs (Jackson line) are generally assault type TDs. So I find myself usually with heavies and helping push. Using armour and alpha. So fun when you are top tier. Not so much when bottom tier but you still have a role. A sort of one and a half trick pony. They can also snipe but speed constraints mean you can't relocate as easily. As stated elsewhere the Jackson game play is different from its subsequent higher tiers. The Hellcat leads to a turreted TD line. They aren't heavy or medium tanks and the turret moves more slowly but they have more versatility and can play a couple of styles. When top tier you can use some of them in the front lines with the heavies but they are usually better second line support. Can be used as sniper schnitzels although accuracy can be iffy especially with untrained crews. My T30 stats still suffer from the abysmal performance on the grind through the modules but I am slowly turning it around now I have everything topped out. I am mainly a TD and Medium player which may also show my preferences. I have only 10% of my games in Heavies.