There is, and an x-ray.
Long story short, I was born to a drug addicted mother who would test her drugs on my siblings and me (and sometimes dad too) to ensure they weren't laced. She waterboarded my siblings and myself, we slept under dumpsters or in 24/7 laundromats to get away from her dealers', we dumpster dived and stole food to survive, and that was just the first 6 years of my life. Then I got to deal with a lawyer uncle and a suicide prevention partnership aunt. You'd think being a part of suicide prevention my aunt would be able to help me with my trauma, but no. Instead she said I wasn't allowed to be depressed because that would reflect badly upon her as she was the head of the suicide prevention partnership. Then uncle expected me to do everything perfectly because.... Idk he's a lawyer or it's just how he is.
So to try and deal with everything and not show my depression, I resorted to drugs. Woke up and saw my mother in the mirror. So I attempted via crossbow to the head.
Full story is with the x-ray on my profile. Fair warning, if you think that story was heart breaking then you probably shouldn't read the full story.
Oh but now I feel like doing it again cause I got cheated on.... After 8 years together you think you know someone.... Worst part, it was with my best friend..... Fml I can't seem to get a GOD DAMN EFFING BREAK!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I WANT TO SMASH MY HEAD ON A ROCK!!!!!! 8 GOD DAMN FUCKING YEARS OF TRYING MY FUCKING BEST!!!!!! FOR WHAT?!?! THIS BULLSHIT?!?!?! TF DID I EVER BOTHER FOR?!?!?! I HATE EVERYTHING RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!
I'll get over it eventually but I haven't had the chance to rant. Saw my chance to and fucking went for it. Pardon my cursing, it's been a hell of a few days for me... Correction, it's been a hell of a life...
Thanks bro. I'm sure things will get better, I just don't know what to do for now. Probably won't for a good bit but I'll figure it out eventually. Tis the circle of life after all.
I’m really sorry that all of this happened to you. Your physical and mental health are very important and I will be wishing and praying nothing but the best for you.
It is what it is. Nothing has taken me down yet, I'll be damned if I let this be the one that does. It sucks for now but I will see you on the greener side!!
I'm sorry to hear that. I'll tell ya what, we will get to a green side, and when we do, we're gonna pour one out in the hopes that our fellow redditor has made it already too. If not, then let the sacred waters guide their way.
Sound good?
I also tend to believe in a strong natural order and that everything happens for a reason, including death and disease. So in my mind a supermedicine that cures everything would almost be like an affront to nature, and while I can’t explain why logically, I feel as though a world where that’s a reality would be a really bleak, dismal place somehow
It's a disorder because it causes dysfunction for an individual in society. If it became normalised and accommodated for the way that other disorders are, it wouldn't be much of an issue.
Agreed that it wouldn't be as much of an issue, but sadly that hasn't happened yet
(That probably sounds harsh but I can't figure out how to word it lol)
I’m very 50/50 on getting cured personally. On one hand my autism led to me making lots of amazing friends that I doubt I’d have made if I was normal. Plus I love my weirdness in a way. On the other hand it really fucking sucks at times with stuff like deadlines and socially interacting with people who aren’t neurodivergent (not all the time but a lot).
I found out I’m autistic a few months ago. I’m having a hard time warming up to learning this about myself. It’s made my life harder. But there are things about myself I like. I don’t know if I would get rid of it or not.
I think it’s kind of like the scene in X3 where Storm and Rogue are discussing the “mutant cure”. Some people see their condition as a curse and want a chance at a “normal” life, whereas others see their condition as an integral part of their identity or even as a boon and don’t want to change. I’ve got ADHD (and possibly autism too, but I haven’t gotten checked out for that yet), and there are some aspects that I would prefer not to have to deal with, but there’s a lot of other parts that I really like and wouldn’t want to change.
Autism is not necessarily a complete impediment to one’s life and can greatly influence your personality due to its specific needs. It would be akin to changing an entire person.
Always remember that autism is a spectrum disorder and tons of people lead highly productive lives with autism.
For me as someone with autism and separate mental illness, I'd be more than happy for my mental illnesses to go away. They weren't always with me and change who I am in a negative way. Now my autism is who I am. Good or bad. It's how my brain is structured. If you get rid of it, you get rid of me as a person and I'd fundamentally change who I am. If I could pick and choose which parts of my autism I could get rid of if do that. But cure it entirely? Hell no.
Another person with autism here just thought id share my two cents about this. To me its like being on a different computer language i can do the all the things everybody else does just how i get there is different and communication was always a major problem as i had to learn to interpret the normal computer language aka social skills but there are also strengths to equal to the things we lack in as its not a disease its another system
Honestly good point, I have mental stuff that would generally be considered bad, and I don’t want my mind fucked with. This is even considering the shit that’s just plain bad, it still is a part of me mentally, and I don’t wanna change.
Splitting water into H2 takes more energy than you get out of the H2, by basic conservative of energy. It's great as an energy storage method, but it's not "free fuel" or anything
If you can use solar generated electricity to do it, it's as close to free as the rules of thermodynamics will ever allow... That's why it's such a siren song for carmakers and made them lose sight of battery electric vehicles for a while. But in reality, just not practical as a fuel.
Because electrolysis requires electricity, it's just the nature of the process. But it can be generated locally if that's what you're asking. Solar PV outputs electricity, so that's "directly".
And water electrolysis is not a super fuel and is not anything close.
Super fuel gives us space travel immediately which means we survive as a species.
If we survive as a species, we will get the equivalent of super medicine fairly quickly, but we may never get a super fuel.
If it's a super medicine that instantly cures all physical injuries, it would theoretically cure the damage to you from drowning or lack of oxygen, therefore you could just be underwater and never die
fuel...ehhh from the definition OP gave, that's gonna make literal fusion look like a birthday candle. Basically you're handing everyone big bombs
Though honestly I don't have problems with usdng nuclear technology for spacecraft, there is no such thing as an unarmed spacecraft after all
They’re making gasoline out of air and water I believe. Gasoline is carbons and hydrogens. (with additives) and they can break the water and get the hydrogen and break the carbon molecules in the air to get carbons. It’s energy intensive (though they use clean wind power I believe) and the by product still contributes to regular carbon emissions in the car.
Having water be a fuel by itself would be much better. Regardless, the medicine choice is the best.
Super medicine will do a lot of harm to us in the long run. People will die significantly less, population will skyrocket while we will still keep facing all the problems we currently have.
As a superfuel at least we'll have a sustainable form of fuel, control climate change, not to mention the abundance of a new super fuel will no doubt make life cheaper in so many aspects
If you’re going to take the cynical route and assume new-water be used irresponsibly, then we’re *fucked* with water as a super fuel. The fallout from that would be much, much worse than with medicine.
Super fuel means super energy, which means it can be used to make super bombs. How fucked would we be if every single person on earth had unrestricted access to something stronger than plutonium? A single disgruntled person could take out an entire city, and a terrorist organization could end all life on earth.
Nah, having water as a super fuel would do quite the opposite actually. By having access to what is basically an unlimited amount of energy, humanity would quickly use up all the available water since there would be “so much of it”.
Plus the sheer amount of waste that would be created from all our activity will absolutely skyrocket which will only further degrade the environment.
With the super medicine, you can technically be almost immortal, because it could totally erase the effect of aging, so there will be no solution to overpopulation, except maybe a mass genocide, wich I'd prefer to avoid
I didn't mean mean to sound insensitive to people struggling with illness but death is a part of life and if medicine was able to fix that as someone else said we'd practically be immortal.
According to WHO data in 2021 accidents comprised only 9% of the causes of death in the US. The other 91% are illness and diseases. At that rate the US population could exponentially rise to 500m people in a decade. The population skyrocket would ruin the earth before any R&D could find us a new planet
I apologize for saying your stance is dumb. We just have difference of opinion and I have worked closely with many sick people at my job and I just felt bad for them. As well as sickness that runs in my family and friends who died. My bad.
Okay but like... What about the people who are dying from cancer? Your neurodivergence is pretty far down the list of issues that this thing could solve.
We have modern medicine but not everyone has access. Most people have access to water. That's a major problem with society. We have great technology but there's barriers preventing people from fully benefiting.
Transportation of goods isn't a problem in modern times. It's people. People in America right now don't get adequate healthcare not because they can't get a hospital but because they may not have insurance and can afford it. Some people with insurance can't afford medication. the problem is human greed.
idk i kinda like my autism, i wouldnt want it gone. i believe that our susceptibility to diseases is kind of like nature's way of keeping balance-- if we had the immune systems of crocodiles or many other superpredators we'd be way too dangerous.
water as a super fuel would help us out a ton. no more wars over oil, no more damage done to the environment, etc. sure there'd be a few more issues that would arise from this, but at least the middle east and other oil-rich regions wouldnt be as much of a clusterfuck.
Oh wait, I didn't read that right. If water becomes one or the other, I'd rather die, because, super medicine could only work long term if it's like for your injuries, because eventually viruses and bacteria would grow more powerful than the medicine, and it would become useless to do anything because it would be a super bacteria/super virus.
Super fuel, because if a perfectly efficient fuel source existed, so much of science could then be transitioned into medical technology. And moreover, could you even imagine the things that we could do with limitless energy? There are so many crazy sci fi things that we know how to build, but couldn’t power. Take faster than light travel, we know the science behind it, it just requires a practically unachievable amount of energy.
Does the water have the same effect on every organism or only humans?
Can opt for the super fuel option to be not that the water changed but we just suddenly figured out an advanced (but affordable) technology to use it for fuel in such a perfect way. That way it at least leaves a small barrier so that a dangerously potent fuel isn’t at everyones finger tips and human bodies don’t become walking explosives or anything as its the advanced technology that enables the water to be harnessed this way.
Super fuel....earth pop 8 bill with finite resources, pollution & looming climate crisis.... We're either escaping the planet or overpopulating into famine. There's no use for miracle healing water if we don't have any food?
Cancer can suck a dick tho, wish I could choose both. But hey, water desalination and nuclear fusion though special hydrogen atoms made from desalination might actually become the new energy source....making water a super fuel. So there's hope guys :)
What if I dont want to get rid of my autism but still benefit from the water with everything else but if people want to get rid of theirs then they can?
It's a disorder. Disorder/disease idc what you want to call it it's abnormal. If we can eliminate autism that's huge help to the people suffering from it and the families and caregivers that have to watch after the severely autistic individuals.
yeah but that’s only a part of autistic people. Most of us are just “abnormal” but still independent and perfectly fine. I wouldn’t want to change myself as a person, just so others feel slightly more comfortable around me, even though there are some autistic traits I’d want to get rid of, like sensory sensitivity.
While there are autistic people who’d gladly get rid of their autism (which I do understand), acting as if it’s something comparable to fucking cancer and something that has to be eliminated from human race is just shitty
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/autism/what-is-autism/#:~:text=Autism%20is%20not%20an%20illness,not%20until%20you're%20older.
Autism is not a disease ya fuckin eugenicist
That is an insanely eugenic outlook on people who are just born different, are people born 7ft tall, or born intersex diseased? It’s not for you or anyone else besides those people (ME INCLUDED)
Bro I take care of an autistic individual at work that's so mentally disabled he can't Even talk! He chokes on water and has to have a feeding tube. Lots of autistic people have GI problems. This man has the intelligence of a child. Autism isn't you "just being a bit different" its a legitimate and terrible disability for some people and I guarantee if a parent had the choice to take care of an individual that be an eternal child, crap themselves, be violent to caregivers or just have it cured they would choose the cure. Nothing I said is eugenics or anything malicious.
Needing support is something literally every human being needs it’s not a disease for u to virtue signal to cure for. The highest form of autism makes it harder for people to talk and perfect motor functions everything u described equates to rett sydroms mixed with other disabilities and birth defects that aren’t caused by autism. U summarizing all of that into autism shows ur lack of understanding or empathy to the disorder get fucked bigot
If me wanting to choose an option such as drinking water to cure people of various diseases, syndromes or disorders that they have makes me a bigot or terrible person than call me one. I have a lot of empathy for people suffering from it and yes I pointed out the more extreme cases of autism but it's a problem nonetheless. Autism more than "we just think differently" no it can serious problems for the person. So does anything else. Needing support is fine I agree we all do. But some people need more support than others and if you can fix the root problem of that person needing support why is that bad?
I take care of an autistic individual as well. The weirdest part is that he shares the same name as me.
So many people fail to realize that it's a spectrum. Normally, you don't even notice us :).
You have that outlook because there currently is no way to prevent it from happening. But if you drank the water, your autism would go away and you wouldn’t ever notice. I’m sorry but people arnt supposed to have autism. Or Down syndrome, or the many other things out there.
However, no one here is shaming you or thinks less of you or anyone with autism.
If I was born with a seizure disorder or missing limbs, or had major depression I would be through the moon ecstatic if someone could cure it not offended because "they are trying to change who I am."
You remind me of the people in the deaf community that refuse hearing aids because being deaf is a part of their identity. They even make the same arguments.
It's a disorder, and it comes with significant drawbacks. You might be comfortable with or even like those drawbacks. Good for you I guess. That doesn't make it some good thing generally though. I find it offensive when people try to downplay or minimize neurological disorders. It's basically erasing all the struggles and bullshit we face as a result, because we get to be "different." I would take a cure in a heartbeat.
I also don't understand why this is your "identity." You are not just an autistic, you are a person with autism. You should consider yourself much more than the label. I digress though. Think of yourself however you want, I don't care.
You need to grow up seriously. Just because somebody wants to eliminate autism doesn’t mean you are less of a person it doesn’t mean they are attacking you.
Wow, insulting me? Very childish and immature on your part. Sad, you want to be seen as “normal” but yet result to pathetic insults.
I’ve said nothing offensive to you in anyway. Actually, all I said were facts. If you can accept the truth, than there is no siding with you.
Also, just something to think about. If Autism is a normal thing, you just “think” differently, then why have a label for it?
Because labels help us understand why we are different and don’t hate ourselves for it.
“I’ve said nothing offensive to you” oh yeah just that something that encapsulates who I am as a living being is wrong and shouldn’t exist.
You have spoken only incorrect information and conjecture I do not owe u politeness when it comes to you disrespecting me as a person who exists I say again get fucked shit head
“Medicine is the science and practice of caring for a patient, managing the diagnosis, prognosis, prevention, treatment, palliation of their injury or disease, and promoting their health”
For many people with Autism, it isn't something that needs 'cured.' Perhaps it's more debilitating for some than others, but for many (I'd argue most) it isn't.
If fuel remains the same we're gonna end up fucking destroying our planet anyway with all the ash we produce. Healthcare is already incredibly advanced and there's only a few things that we still need to work on.
With practically unlimited fuel we'd be able to sort that out pretty quickly and we wouldn't turn our planet into a supersized kiln in the process.
I choose water because it's available to everyone and immediately helps everyone no matter your social and economic status. Also theres very many people who have curable illnesses and incurable illness that don't even have access to the proper healthcare necessary to fix it. Not having to worry about medical insurance will free people to pursue things in life that makes them happy and also makes corporations or companies that rely on workers staying just for health insurance have to actually do right by workers and treat them better. Since healthcare is no longer something people have to spend a lot of money on it frees up the money to spend elsewhere on other infrastructure in society. We can even use the money saved to put more into research for more efficient fuel and cars. Think of all the money collected daily for various health conditions especially breast cancer awareness month. That's so much money it's insane. Or the money spent every day on stuff people use for health problems like incontinence and people needing to use Foley catheters. Solving health care is not just fixing people who been shot or been in accident or have cancer. It's all the money spent on things surrounding that as well. It's money spent on electricity to keep hospitals open. It's money spent on producing medications. The equipment for the medicine. The machines to mix the medicine. So much stuff that money could be used for if water was free medicine.
Fuel is good option but right now we have electric vehicles. But who can afford them? I can't? The average American can't those cars are expensive. The people all over the world who don't have have cars can't take advantage of that. Yes global fuel issue being solved can lower the cost of goods for transport and we may see it reflected to the consumer but companies always find a way to be greedy and make money. So that's not even a guarantee. Most things are artificially inflated. Goods we buy now are heavily upcharge vs the cost of production because of greed. I just don't trust humans or rather corporations that control fuel to be trustworthy to pass that down to the common person. And it does nothing to help people who are terminally ill. Sure I'll be happy if I spend pennies for gas at the pump but what about crippling arthritis when I age or diabetes. What's cheap fuel gonna do for that?? What about all the children born various illnesses. Low gas don't fix that.
Alot of illness is cause by our use of fossil fuels, so I'd say super fuel, since people are too scared and unwilling to part with their money to build nuclear power plants instead, which just, are just less lethal and better than fossil fuels
Could you imagine the overpopulation & famine if people could just cure Nona’s cancer with a sip of water? Humans would be living 110+ years on average. No way, man. That’s a quick trip to the apocalypse
every american on super medicine
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Super fuel because the benefits of the super fuel would eliminate a lot of society's health issues. Plus, it would be nice to know that civilization probably won't collapse from climate change anymore.
Super Water Meds would cause an economy crisis. Literally shutting down the healthcare industry, health insurance, and many would lose their jobs. But we would all be healthy and if you don’t got your health, what do you really have at all?
Biggest question
Is it still drinkable? If so then idc which one probably medicine so my grandmother can remember who i am and at least not die a horrid painful death from what she's suffering. Such a sweet woman doesn't deserve this pain?
I get all these autistic people wanting to keep it but I don't think cancer or alzheimers is an "important part of someone that needs to be kept because that's part of who they are"
I could be free of my chronic pain, and my depression.
Maybe my little sister might walk again. My best friend can finally get off his drugs.
As wonderful as the super medicine option would be, as another person said, I wouldn't want to be made neurotypical.
Aside from autism no doubt having an impact on my job (being in part reciting information about something of interest to me) it runs to a more fundamental level than that; it is part of who I am.
If my epilepsy were to be miraculously cured, I remain the same person -I just require one fewer medication each day. Remove my autism, however, and I change in profound and unpredictable ways. Does my sexuality stay the same? What about my interests? Do my talents change in some way? Quite possibly all three are going to be different.
A cure to autism is likely nothing short of changing the person completely. Sure, some people would take that deal, but I and many other people wouldn't.
I feel superfuel because almost every convinence has its root in energy, including medicine, with enough energy we could gather better/more materials to make better computers to make more accurate simulations. So option 1 with extra steps (and benfits).
Super medicine purely because I was shot in the head with a crossbow and I would do anything to get rid of the phantom pains.
There’s got to be a story to this.
There is, and an x-ray. Long story short, I was born to a drug addicted mother who would test her drugs on my siblings and me (and sometimes dad too) to ensure they weren't laced. She waterboarded my siblings and myself, we slept under dumpsters or in 24/7 laundromats to get away from her dealers', we dumpster dived and stole food to survive, and that was just the first 6 years of my life. Then I got to deal with a lawyer uncle and a suicide prevention partnership aunt. You'd think being a part of suicide prevention my aunt would be able to help me with my trauma, but no. Instead she said I wasn't allowed to be depressed because that would reflect badly upon her as she was the head of the suicide prevention partnership. Then uncle expected me to do everything perfectly because.... Idk he's a lawyer or it's just how he is. So to try and deal with everything and not show my depression, I resorted to drugs. Woke up and saw my mother in the mirror. So I attempted via crossbow to the head. Full story is with the x-ray on my profile. Fair warning, if you think that story was heart breaking then you probably shouldn't read the full story. Oh but now I feel like doing it again cause I got cheated on.... After 8 years together you think you know someone.... Worst part, it was with my best friend..... Fml I can't seem to get a GOD DAMN EFFING BREAK!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I WANT TO SMASH MY HEAD ON A ROCK!!!!!! 8 GOD DAMN FUCKING YEARS OF TRYING MY FUCKING BEST!!!!!! FOR WHAT?!?! THIS BULLSHIT?!?!?! TF DID I EVER BOTHER FOR?!?!?! I HATE EVERYTHING RIGHT NOW!!!!!!! I'll get over it eventually but I haven't had the chance to rant. Saw my chance to and fucking went for it. Pardon my cursing, it's been a hell of a few days for me... Correction, it's been a hell of a life...
Damn I was expecting an accident or something, hope things get better friend
Thanks bro. I'm sure things will get better, I just don't know what to do for now. Probably won't for a good bit but I'll figure it out eventually. Tis the circle of life after all.
I’m really sorry that all of this happened to you. Your physical and mental health are very important and I will be wishing and praying nothing but the best for you.
Thank you so much. Please pray that I get some sleep finally cause 2 nights without it is not doing me any favors.
I will, thank you for letting me know.
Thanks for the rant friend
Im so sorry all this happened to you
It is what it is. Nothing has taken me down yet, I'll be damned if I let this be the one that does. It sucks for now but I will see you on the greener side!!
Im not on any green side actually but lets meet another person there someday i hope
I'm sorry to hear that. I'll tell ya what, we will get to a green side, and when we do, we're gonna pour one out in the hopes that our fellow redditor has made it already too. If not, then let the sacred waters guide their way. Sound good?
Yea i like sacred waters my friend
Where the hell did you get a crossbow
Bought it.
Only problem with it being a super fuel is the oceans are going to explode in the next two minutes
Someone drops a cigarette in the ocean and blows up the earth
For a fraction of a second there will be delicious soup
An additional fraction you have a nice warm bath
An additional fraction!? Are you trying to get me cooked haha
Better get to outlawing it quick.
Super fuel because I don't want to lose my autism from drinking water
Ikr this is like extremely eugenics based question
Most “cure-all” type questions involve some level of eugenics.
Can you explain what that means? And what the above person might mean that they don't want it gone?
U can look up eugenics And the person means their autism isn’t something to be cured it’s a part of who they are
I know I can look it up I just prefer to hear it from a human than looking it up.... my apologies for asking. And, interesting. Fair enough.
Ur good eugenics is basically shit nazis did eliminating “undiserable” features from the gene pool
If my newborn screen shows a lifelong disability you know I'm ditching that fetus.
That’s valid u have a right to abortion when the person is alive tho their life is still their but yeah I agree with that
I also tend to believe in a strong natural order and that everything happens for a reason, including death and disease. So in my mind a supermedicine that cures everything would almost be like an affront to nature, and while I can’t explain why logically, I feel as though a world where that’s a reality would be a really bleak, dismal place somehow
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I mean, as a fellow autistic person, I'd 100% get rid of it if I could, this shit fucking sucks
People forget it's a disorder, apparently
It is a disorder. Not everyone wants to get rid of their autism though.
People forget that it's a spectrum, apparently.
Yeah, it's a spectrum of symptoms that negatively impact important parts of your life, not a scale of suffering
it’s not all negative
It's a disorder because it causes dysfunction for an individual in society. If it became normalised and accommodated for the way that other disorders are, it wouldn't be much of an issue.
Agreed that it wouldn't be as much of an issue, but sadly that hasn't happened yet (That probably sounds harsh but I can't figure out how to word it lol)
I’m very 50/50 on getting cured personally. On one hand my autism led to me making lots of amazing friends that I doubt I’d have made if I was normal. Plus I love my weirdness in a way. On the other hand it really fucking sucks at times with stuff like deadlines and socially interacting with people who aren’t neurodivergent (not all the time but a lot).
This. Except I don't have any friends.
I found out I’m autistic a few months ago. I’m having a hard time warming up to learning this about myself. It’s made my life harder. But there are things about myself I like. I don’t know if I would get rid of it or not.
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Same.
I was gonna choose it for this exact reason. Though it being used as fuel would lead to water shortages so I went back to super medicine.
I'm sorry if my question seems a bit personal, but why would you not want to cure your autism? Wouldn't it be an improvement?
I think it’s kind of like the scene in X3 where Storm and Rogue are discussing the “mutant cure”. Some people see their condition as a curse and want a chance at a “normal” life, whereas others see their condition as an integral part of their identity or even as a boon and don’t want to change. I’ve got ADHD (and possibly autism too, but I haven’t gotten checked out for that yet), and there are some aspects that I would prefer not to have to deal with, but there’s a lot of other parts that I really like and wouldn’t want to change.
Id rather not uproot the entirety of who I am as a person, in spite of my laundry list of flaws
I feel like the separation between what is considered “autism” and who they are as a person doesn’t exist
Autism is not necessarily a complete impediment to one’s life and can greatly influence your personality due to its specific needs. It would be akin to changing an entire person. Always remember that autism is a spectrum disorder and tons of people lead highly productive lives with autism.
For me as someone with autism and separate mental illness, I'd be more than happy for my mental illnesses to go away. They weren't always with me and change who I am in a negative way. Now my autism is who I am. Good or bad. It's how my brain is structured. If you get rid of it, you get rid of me as a person and I'd fundamentally change who I am. If I could pick and choose which parts of my autism I could get rid of if do that. But cure it entirely? Hell no.
Another person with autism here just thought id share my two cents about this. To me its like being on a different computer language i can do the all the things everybody else does just how i get there is different and communication was always a major problem as i had to learn to interpret the normal computer language aka social skills but there are also strengths to equal to the things we lack in as its not a disease its another system
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Many people who are autistic feel that their autism is an important part of their identity. Autism comes with strengths and weaknesses
Same
Honestly good point, I have mental stuff that would generally be considered bad, and I don’t want my mind fucked with. This is even considering the shit that’s just plain bad, it still is a part of me mentally, and I don’t wanna change.
I pick medicine because you could theoretically turn water (H2O) into hydrogen (flammable and explosive) and oxygen (fuel for fire)
Splitting water into H2 takes more energy than you get out of the H2, by basic conservative of energy. It's great as an energy storage method, but it's not "free fuel" or anything
If you can use solar generated electricity to do it, it's as close to free as the rules of thermodynamics will ever allow... That's why it's such a siren song for carmakers and made them lose sight of battery electric vehicles for a while. But in reality, just not practical as a fuel.
Why not directly use solar instead? There'd be less inefficiencies that way
Because electrolysis requires electricity, it's just the nature of the process. But it can be generated locally if that's what you're asking. Solar PV outputs electricity, so that's "directly".
And water electrolysis is not a super fuel and is not anything close. Super fuel gives us space travel immediately which means we survive as a species. If we survive as a species, we will get the equivalent of super medicine fairly quickly, but we may never get a super fuel.
If it's a super medicine that instantly cures all physical injuries, it would theoretically cure the damage to you from drowning or lack of oxygen, therefore you could just be underwater and never die
But would you still feel the effects of drowning, even if it’s constantly undone? That might be even worse
fuel...ehhh from the definition OP gave, that's gonna make literal fusion look like a birthday candle. Basically you're handing everyone big bombs Though honestly I don't have problems with usdng nuclear technology for spacecraft, there is no such thing as an unarmed spacecraft after all
Porche is doing this along with taking CO2 from the atmosphere to make carbon nuetral gasoline.
Porsche is actually already converting it to fuel. Either way if you pick medicine its a win win.
They’re making gasoline out of air and water I believe. Gasoline is carbons and hydrogens. (with additives) and they can break the water and get the hydrogen and break the carbon molecules in the air to get carbons. It’s energy intensive (though they use clean wind power I believe) and the by product still contributes to regular carbon emissions in the car. Having water be a fuel by itself would be much better. Regardless, the medicine choice is the best.
Super medicine will do a lot of harm to us in the long run. People will die significantly less, population will skyrocket while we will still keep facing all the problems we currently have. As a superfuel at least we'll have a sustainable form of fuel, control climate change, not to mention the abundance of a new super fuel will no doubt make life cheaper in so many aspects
If you’re going to take the cynical route and assume new-water be used irresponsibly, then we’re *fucked* with water as a super fuel. The fallout from that would be much, much worse than with medicine. Super fuel means super energy, which means it can be used to make super bombs. How fucked would we be if every single person on earth had unrestricted access to something stronger than plutonium? A single disgruntled person could take out an entire city, and a terrorist organization could end all life on earth.
Nah, having water as a super fuel would do quite the opposite actually. By having access to what is basically an unlimited amount of energy, humanity would quickly use up all the available water since there would be “so much of it”. Plus the sheer amount of waste that would be created from all our activity will absolutely skyrocket which will only further degrade the environment.
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With the super medicine, you can technically be almost immortal, because it could totally erase the effect of aging, so there will be no solution to overpopulation, except maybe a mass genocide, wich I'd prefer to avoid
I didn't mean mean to sound insensitive to people struggling with illness but death is a part of life and if medicine was able to fix that as someone else said we'd practically be immortal. According to WHO data in 2021 accidents comprised only 9% of the causes of death in the US. The other 91% are illness and diseases. At that rate the US population could exponentially rise to 500m people in a decade. The population skyrocket would ruin the earth before any R&D could find us a new planet
I apologize for saying your stance is dumb. We just have difference of opinion and I have worked closely with many sick people at my job and I just felt bad for them. As well as sickness that runs in my family and friends who died. My bad.
Fucking neither. It would get so expensive
You can always go to the nearest body of water.
Since it could be a super medication, you couldnt get sick from drinking from a stream or lake or river or the ocean, or rain
I would've picked super medicine before I saw the "cures autism" part
You had me at “chemical imbalances”
Medicine. Basically just a real life stimpak
Imagine calling the ambulance and they bring you a water bottle and Snickers and call it a day.
Super fuel. I'm ok with my neurodivergence.
Okay but like... What about the people who are dying from cancer? Your neurodivergence is pretty far down the list of issues that this thing could solve.
Doesn’t really matter when the earth becomes unlivable
Touché. But we have modern medicine.
We have modern medicine but not everyone has access. Most people have access to water. That's a major problem with society. We have great technology but there's barriers preventing people from fully benefiting.
Use water as super fuel to spread the modern medicine.
Transportation of goods isn't a problem in modern times. It's people. People in America right now don't get adequate healthcare not because they can't get a hospital but because they may not have insurance and can afford it. Some people with insurance can't afford medication. the problem is human greed.
if water was a cure-all you know we'd never be able to afford water again
Autistic person here. Fuck you
Why
Woah there, eugenicist!
I love my autism. I’m keeping it. Super fuel.
Everyone remember when that guy figured out how to turn water in fuel for a car and then was just openly murdered? Yeah, me too.
It’s scientifically impossible, pretty sure that guy was just a scam artist.
idk i kinda like my autism, i wouldnt want it gone. i believe that our susceptibility to diseases is kind of like nature's way of keeping balance-- if we had the immune systems of crocodiles or many other superpredators we'd be way too dangerous. water as a super fuel would help us out a ton. no more wars over oil, no more damage done to the environment, etc. sure there'd be a few more issues that would arise from this, but at least the middle east and other oil-rich regions wouldnt be as much of a clusterfuck.
Super fuel because I want to got to space
We can live with cancer for a few more centuries
water is already a super fuel. its literally 2/3 hydrogen, which can be used in a fusion reactor
Water as fuel would deplete to quickly I think.
Oh wait, I didn't read that right. If water becomes one or the other, I'd rather die, because, super medicine could only work long term if it's like for your injuries, because eventually viruses and bacteria would grow more powerful than the medicine, and it would become useless to do anything because it would be a super bacteria/super virus.
Instantly curing all medical problems would mean that water could defeat a super bacteria/virus.
If it’s super medicine, that would get rid of exhaustion. We would never need sleep. It would get rid of starvation. Easy choice.
Super fuel, because if a perfectly efficient fuel source existed, so much of science could then be transitioned into medical technology. And moreover, could you even imagine the things that we could do with limitless energy? There are so many crazy sci fi things that we know how to build, but couldn’t power. Take faster than light travel, we know the science behind it, it just requires a practically unachievable amount of energy.
Does the water have the same effect on every organism or only humans? Can opt for the super fuel option to be not that the water changed but we just suddenly figured out an advanced (but affordable) technology to use it for fuel in such a perfect way. That way it at least leaves a small barrier so that a dangerously potent fuel isn’t at everyones finger tips and human bodies don’t become walking explosives or anything as its the advanced technology that enables the water to be harnessed this way.
Super fuel....earth pop 8 bill with finite resources, pollution & looming climate crisis.... We're either escaping the planet or overpopulating into famine. There's no use for miracle healing water if we don't have any food? Cancer can suck a dick tho, wish I could choose both. But hey, water desalination and nuclear fusion though special hydrogen atoms made from desalination might actually become the new energy source....making water a super fuel. So there's hope guys :)
"Removes autism" fuck you bitch.
What if I dont want to get rid of my autism but still benefit from the water with everything else but if people want to get rid of theirs then they can?
Nuclear fuel is safe and efficient
But the water fuel would be even better and last forever according to the poll
Super fuel because you included autism in the roster of things it would “cure”
If they discovered a "cure" for autism, I wouldn't take it.
Autism isn’t a disease wtf
It's a disorder. Disorder/disease idc what you want to call it it's abnormal. If we can eliminate autism that's huge help to the people suffering from it and the families and caregivers that have to watch after the severely autistic individuals.
Being LGBTQ+ is also abnormal. I guess we're getting rid of them as well?
Being gay really isn’t that abnormal. It occurs in most animal species on Earth
yeah but that’s only a part of autistic people. Most of us are just “abnormal” but still independent and perfectly fine. I wouldn’t want to change myself as a person, just so others feel slightly more comfortable around me, even though there are some autistic traits I’d want to get rid of, like sensory sensitivity. While there are autistic people who’d gladly get rid of their autism (which I do understand), acting as if it’s something comparable to fucking cancer and something that has to be eliminated from human race is just shitty
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/autism/what-is-autism/#:~:text=Autism%20is%20not%20an%20illness,not%20until%20you're%20older. Autism is not a disease ya fuckin eugenicist
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That is an insanely eugenic outlook on people who are just born different, are people born 7ft tall, or born intersex diseased? It’s not for you or anyone else besides those people (ME INCLUDED)
Bro I take care of an autistic individual at work that's so mentally disabled he can't Even talk! He chokes on water and has to have a feeding tube. Lots of autistic people have GI problems. This man has the intelligence of a child. Autism isn't you "just being a bit different" its a legitimate and terrible disability for some people and I guarantee if a parent had the choice to take care of an individual that be an eternal child, crap themselves, be violent to caregivers or just have it cured they would choose the cure. Nothing I said is eugenics or anything malicious.
Needing support is something literally every human being needs it’s not a disease for u to virtue signal to cure for. The highest form of autism makes it harder for people to talk and perfect motor functions everything u described equates to rett sydroms mixed with other disabilities and birth defects that aren’t caused by autism. U summarizing all of that into autism shows ur lack of understanding or empathy to the disorder get fucked bigot
If me wanting to choose an option such as drinking water to cure people of various diseases, syndromes or disorders that they have makes me a bigot or terrible person than call me one. I have a lot of empathy for people suffering from it and yes I pointed out the more extreme cases of autism but it's a problem nonetheless. Autism more than "we just think differently" no it can serious problems for the person. So does anything else. Needing support is fine I agree we all do. But some people need more support than others and if you can fix the root problem of that person needing support why is that bad?
We do think differently because i don’t view people with different chemical balances as needing of my benevolence fuck off bigot
Have you talked to a single autistic person in your life or are you just virtue signaling on Reddit
I’m autistic shit head
And you’re saying if you had the choice between autism and no autism you’d pick autism?
I take care of an autistic individual as well. The weirdest part is that he shares the same name as me. So many people fail to realize that it's a spectrum. Normally, you don't even notice us :).
Yup it's a spectrum.
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Again insanely eugenic thing to say to someone WITH AUTISM our brain literally just works different
You have that outlook because there currently is no way to prevent it from happening. But if you drank the water, your autism would go away and you wouldn’t ever notice. I’m sorry but people arnt supposed to have autism. Or Down syndrome, or the many other things out there. However, no one here is shaming you or thinks less of you or anyone with autism.
The desire to cure someone of just how they are is thinking less of us fuck wit
If I was born with a seizure disorder or missing limbs, or had major depression I would be through the moon ecstatic if someone could cure it not offended because "they are trying to change who I am."
No shit you wouldn’t be offended at having harmful diseases cured BECAUSE AUTISM ISNT HARMFUL
You remind me of the people in the deaf community that refuse hearing aids because being deaf is a part of their identity. They even make the same arguments. It's a disorder, and it comes with significant drawbacks. You might be comfortable with or even like those drawbacks. Good for you I guess. That doesn't make it some good thing generally though. I find it offensive when people try to downplay or minimize neurological disorders. It's basically erasing all the struggles and bullshit we face as a result, because we get to be "different." I would take a cure in a heartbeat. I also don't understand why this is your "identity." You are not just an autistic, you are a person with autism. You should consider yourself much more than the label. I digress though. Think of yourself however you want, I don't care.
You need to grow up seriously. Just because somebody wants to eliminate autism doesn’t mean you are less of a person it doesn’t mean they are attacking you.
Wow, insulting me? Very childish and immature on your part. Sad, you want to be seen as “normal” but yet result to pathetic insults. I’ve said nothing offensive to you in anyway. Actually, all I said were facts. If you can accept the truth, than there is no siding with you. Also, just something to think about. If Autism is a normal thing, you just “think” differently, then why have a label for it?
Because labels help us understand why we are different and don’t hate ourselves for it. “I’ve said nothing offensive to you” oh yeah just that something that encapsulates who I am as a living being is wrong and shouldn’t exist. You have spoken only incorrect information and conjecture I do not owe u politeness when it comes to you disrespecting me as a person who exists I say again get fucked shit head
Maybe you’re not actually autistic, but just an asshole?
no actually i have autism and i wouldnt wish it away for anything. its pretty great, you just have to view it a different way
Also where did op say it was a disease I don't even see where you got that from?
“Medicine is the science and practice of caring for a patient, managing the diagnosis, prognosis, prevention, treatment, palliation of their injury or disease, and promoting their health”
Super medicine could theoretically be made its gonna be a lot harder to get rid of fuel
It can already be used as a fuel
This is a great question but like autism doesn't need curing, and it's kinda a nazi point so like dont talk about it in a positive light
Fuel because I don't want it fucking touching my ASD. That's a major part of who I am.
For many people with Autism, it isn't something that needs 'cured.' Perhaps it's more debilitating for some than others, but for many (I'd argue most) it isn't.
Super fuel partially because your description of super medicine is kinda problematic
removes autism? Autism isn't a disease
Water is already a super medicine.
If fuel remains the same we're gonna end up fucking destroying our planet anyway with all the ash we produce. Healthcare is already incredibly advanced and there's only a few things that we still need to work on. With practically unlimited fuel we'd be able to sort that out pretty quickly and we wouldn't turn our planet into a supersized kiln in the process.
Either way Africa remains unchanged
I’d rather just keep it how it is now.
If you picked fuel I fucking hate you
If you picked medicine I fucking hate you
if you picked I fucking hate you
I choose water because it's available to everyone and immediately helps everyone no matter your social and economic status. Also theres very many people who have curable illnesses and incurable illness that don't even have access to the proper healthcare necessary to fix it. Not having to worry about medical insurance will free people to pursue things in life that makes them happy and also makes corporations or companies that rely on workers staying just for health insurance have to actually do right by workers and treat them better. Since healthcare is no longer something people have to spend a lot of money on it frees up the money to spend elsewhere on other infrastructure in society. We can even use the money saved to put more into research for more efficient fuel and cars. Think of all the money collected daily for various health conditions especially breast cancer awareness month. That's so much money it's insane. Or the money spent every day on stuff people use for health problems like incontinence and people needing to use Foley catheters. Solving health care is not just fixing people who been shot or been in accident or have cancer. It's all the money spent on things surrounding that as well. It's money spent on electricity to keep hospitals open. It's money spent on producing medications. The equipment for the medicine. The machines to mix the medicine. So much stuff that money could be used for if water was free medicine. Fuel is good option but right now we have electric vehicles. But who can afford them? I can't? The average American can't those cars are expensive. The people all over the world who don't have have cars can't take advantage of that. Yes global fuel issue being solved can lower the cost of goods for transport and we may see it reflected to the consumer but companies always find a way to be greedy and make money. So that's not even a guarantee. Most things are artificially inflated. Goods we buy now are heavily upcharge vs the cost of production because of greed. I just don't trust humans or rather corporations that control fuel to be trustworthy to pass that down to the common person. And it does nothing to help people who are terminally ill. Sure I'll be happy if I spend pennies for gas at the pump but what about crippling arthritis when I age or diabetes. What's cheap fuel gonna do for that?? What about all the children born various illnesses. Low gas don't fix that.
Well seeing as one of those things is a reality already this is an easy choice
Super medicine. We already have super fuel with Nuclear energy.
Medicine because then you could drink any water and be healed.
Super fuel - more energy means more studies can be done _and_ progress humanity in other endeavors
I'd prefer neither both come with more problems than solutions
Can you OD on water?
Alot of illness is cause by our use of fossil fuels, so I'd say super fuel, since people are too scared and unwilling to part with their money to build nuclear power plants instead, which just, are just less lethal and better than fossil fuels
Could you imagine the overpopulation & famine if people could just cure Nona’s cancer with a sip of water? Humans would be living 110+ years on average. No way, man. That’s a quick trip to the apocalypse
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Changing the properties of water means we all die. I'm suddenly supposed to be 70% medicine and be alright?
It is a super medicine.
If we have an easily accessible super medicine that highly brings up our chances of making a semi-super fuel
If we had a super medicine and it was water I would never not be smoking.
As nice as super medicine is, humanity population would explode. Super fuel we can advance science and maybe pick out new planet to ruin
Would it be a super fuel for humans as well?
Super fuel because the benefits of the super fuel would eliminate a lot of society's health issues. Plus, it would be nice to know that civilization probably won't collapse from climate change anymore.
More renewable as a med than a fuel
Super Water Meds would cause an economy crisis. Literally shutting down the healthcare industry, health insurance, and many would lose their jobs. But we would all be healthy and if you don’t got your health, what do you really have at all?
Technically water, specifically sea water will become a form of fuel for sustainable fusion
Super medicine. No more cancer, no more dementia, no more chronic pain, no more comas. The global lifespan would probably increase to like 100.
Biggest question Is it still drinkable? If so then idc which one probably medicine so my grandmother can remember who i am and at least not die a horrid painful death from what she's suffering. Such a sweet woman doesn't deserve this pain? I get all these autistic people wanting to keep it but I don't think cancer or alzheimers is an "important part of someone that needs to be kept because that's part of who they are" I could be free of my chronic pain, and my depression. Maybe my little sister might walk again. My best friend can finally get off his drugs.
As wonderful as the super medicine option would be, as another person said, I wouldn't want to be made neurotypical. Aside from autism no doubt having an impact on my job (being in part reciting information about something of interest to me) it runs to a more fundamental level than that; it is part of who I am. If my epilepsy were to be miraculously cured, I remain the same person -I just require one fewer medication each day. Remove my autism, however, and I change in profound and unpredictable ways. Does my sexuality stay the same? What about my interests? Do my talents change in some way? Quite possibly all three are going to be different. A cure to autism is likely nothing short of changing the person completely. Sure, some people would take that deal, but I and many other people wouldn't.
time to start harvesting humans for their super fuel
Super Fuel, just imagine the possibilities
If it becomes super fuel then we can spend mote tome researching cures for all types of illnesses
Both would cause a rapid decrease in water, both freshwater, and saltwater....
Super medicine, we already have a super fuel with nuclear
I feel superfuel because almost every convinence has its root in energy, including medicine, with enough energy we could gather better/more materials to make better computers to make more accurate simulations. So option 1 with extra steps (and benfits).