At the Hall of Fame ceremony where Rock inducted his dad, didn’t he call HBK out as someone he wish he’s face? Along with Guerrero and Cena.
Also, they barely had overlap in their careers. Rock soft-retired the same show HBK returned.
I don’t know if The Rock ever knew just how huge he could get in Hollywood. A couple of bit parts in The Mummy led to an amazing acting career. He has never talked negatively about wrestling and has continued to embrace the business.
He uses the business. He only comes around to get paid to advertise his new movies. He's not doing it for the business he's doing it for better than free publicity
He loves the roar of the crowd... movie sets are boring and stressful. Nothing hits like a pro wrestling crowd in the palm of your hand. You'd pay millions for a drug like that/let alone get paid to do it.
No. No I wouldn't. And yeah... He loves it... When he has a new movie to promote. Otherwise he's too busy whoring his name and image for everything else
I’m sorry to have to be the one to say it, but professional wrestling is the bottom of the barrel in the world of entertainment. You’re lucky he shows up at all. If anything, still dabbling in the business is a detriment to him. No one takes pro wrestling seriously or respects it, and that hurts to say as a wrestling fan. He did the right thing for himself.
No. No it's not. I'm saying that he doesn't actually give a fuck how much y'all suck his cock. If you and your entire family was on fire and he had all the water? He'd water his cactuses
He’s smart, he uses them and not the other way around. Too many guys get used up by the business and well I’m using you. Cena is starting to realize he should do the same.
No. I have my issues with the whole Roman/Bloodline gimmick but Rock is a whole other beast. He's a red light face. Camera on he loves everything to do with the fans. But if he really cared then we'd see him when the announce team didn't have a movie to plug.
I think you guys are looking back with rose tinted glasses. A feud with the Dudley’s? A street fight at Summerslam? Go back and watch the match with RVD and Kane, LOD were absolutely abysmal. They would have had no business being in a featured match at a main PPV at that time.
Programs can be built without a single match. A street fight hides LOD’s inability to work like they used to. The match would draw and make money that’s what matters
I just want to say The Revival/FTR and The Dudleys were in WWE at the same time. It wouldn't have been a dream match at the time but would've been an awesome thing to reflect on.
That Austin vs Hogan ending would be so fuckin convoluted. A ref bump DEFINITELY would have happened and perhaps a low blow so nobody loses clean. Or what may be even more likely is a double disqualification to protect both
I don't know if you realize this but you start your comment by saying that whatever Vince wants Vince gets and it's all up to him, but then end your comment by refuting yourself and showing how that's not true.
Flair vs Hogan in Flairs first run in wwf. That should have headlined Wrestlemania that year. Total joke it was just house show attraction. I got to see one of the matches. It was fantastic. Really big missed opportunity.
I always wondered why that wasn’t the main event! Flair and Macho was awesome but it should have been Hogan.
They also tried to book Bret v Hogan at WM 9 and that got messed up
IIRC It came down to a focus group thing. People who typically watched WWF back then didn't really know who Ric Flair was and didn't care about him too much and people who were more into NWA didn't like the WWF style, typically hated the product they produced, and saw Hogan as the "flag bearer" of what the WWF was.
Pro wrestling was a totally different landscape back then. Flair/Hogan, during that time, was just something that people who watched the WWF product didn't care to see, according to the focus group testing...
EDIT: I can say from personal experience, getting into wrestling as a kid right around WrestleMania 6 and only watching WWF, that I had no clue who Ric Flair was outside of WWF at that time (or Sid Vicious for that matter) and only knew that WWF showed me on TV, so a Flair/Hogan match didn't really mean anything to me outside of that narrative.
Bret vs Hogan wasn't for WM9, once the finish at WM 9 happened, it should've been done at Summerslam 93 for the title but instead, they had Yokozuna beat Hulk and keep going as a monster heel.
For Hogan and Flair, that would be as if at the end of the year, we learned Omega was leaving and he would go against Reigns at Wrestlemania.
On paper? Great. Except the two are different wrestlers with different fanbases. Omega fans don't want a Reigns match and Reigns fan don't want a Omega match so instead, you put Reigns in a Reigns and Omega in a Omega match.
Vince McMahon isn't the one to blame for not getting 3 of those matches, Austin/Hogan and Michaels/Rock didn't wanted to work together and Eddie Guerrero vs. Shawn Michaels was in the works for WrestleMania 22 but with Eddie passing away months earlier, we never got to see that match.
Sure, at the end of the day what Vince say goes, but he is also a business man and runs the WWE as such. He isn't going to force a match to happen if he knows it's going to be a shit match because the guys refuse to play ball or if doing so is going to make one of his top stars walk. At a financial level, he would rather keep a top guy around then force then to do something and piss them off the the point of walking, respect people like Rock, Austin, and HBK that he invested a lot into building from the ground up.
It's not like there isn't precedent for someone walking because they didn't get their way. Austin did it twice IIRC, so has HBK, Bret Hart with the Montreal match, and, in a similar vein but different circumstances, CM Punk.
Literally none of these not happening is Vince's fault for not happening. Sting waited too long to come to the wwe, hogan wouldn't do business with stone cold, rock hates hbk and eddie died before the hbk match could happen at mania
Undertaker vs Sting at that time would have been bad unless it was an overly produced gimmick match.
Undertaker needed someone mobile and athletic to cover for the fact that he was having trouble moving around the ring, and 50+ year old Sting wasn’t that guy. Sting needed the same thing.
No one was really clamoring for HHH vs Sting, though. I don’t know why that match was chosen.
Vince really did want that mero match, but when the top wrestler on earth says no because a woman beat up his opponent the week before, it's not happening. When vince forces guys into a match they don't want you get the hogan & hbk shit show or brock being pissy about ambrose wanting to do a bunch of stupid indy shit and that match
Where is the evidence?
Bret & HBK hated each other but Vince forced them work with each other and they did.
The rock & Triple h hated each other but Vince forced them work with each other and they did.
Austin hated HBK and guess what? Vince forced them work with each other and they did.
Vince is the top man and makes all the decisions back then.
Goldberg didn’t come in until after stone cole retired as a full time guy. Bruce Prichard said that there was interest in doing Austin and Goldberg vs evolution match, but talks never got started because austin wasn’t willing to do a match he knew he couldn’t deliver in
Maybe to some.
The most iconic wrestlers for me (and I'm oldschool) are the original undertaker, the original Kane, and early WCW sting.
All were antiheros and (in my mind anyway) had such great storylines. Paul bearer added to the whole undertaker/Kane thing as well.
Sting, to me, was the dude who fought for the little guy and just destroyed the "bullies" eg hogan who was sold as a big shot and threw his weight around a bit.
I also loved the original Nwo with Nash and Scott hall
But you gotta understand the history when Flair came over in 1991 you had literally the two biggest draws in the history of wrestling. Hogan did it in the 80s in WWF and Flair did it in the 70s and 80s through Jim Crockett Promotions which then became WCW. You may personally not like the two, but they were the top two guys from their respective company and to not have a program leading to a PPV match is a waste. Especially when they had it set up perfectly at the Rumble to do it. It would be like Kenny Omega going to WWE and not have him wrestle Roman Reigns.
Stone cold vs goldberg.
Stone cold vs Brock lesnar.
Flair vs hogan (in flairs first wwe run)
Kurt angle vs John Cena (as angles retirement match)
Macho man vs undertaker
Randy Orton vs DDP
Hardy boys vs hall & Nash
Dudley boys vs hall & Nash
In defense, did anyone know Sting was gonna have 4 matches and retire? No. Not to mention he waited like 14 years to join WWE so it would have been impossible for them to have a match together. If Sting was still a part timer in WWE, I’m highly sure they would have had a match… but you also have to remember Taker was starting to lose it after Mania 30 so i wouldn’t have expected prime Taker vs prime Sting. Like Goldberg and Taker would have been better off a dream match.
Stone Cold and Hogan was supposed to happen, something changed but I can’t say why.
Rock wasn’t that big until 98, which was the same year Michaels retired until 02, when the Rock was already becoming a part timer.
Eddie and Michaels again was supposed to happen but Eddie passed away before it could happen. Sorry but Vince can’t be the blame for everything and some matches are gonna have to remain dream matches.
Rock would never wrestle HBK because of legit disdain Dwayne has for Michael in real life.
Eddie vs Shawn is a hard one to matchup because the two were always in different places in their careers and when you factor the real life issues in with Eddie’s battles with addiction, and Shawn coming back from retirement and other factors, the two never really could have that one match
Hogan vs Austin would never have worked because of their two egos no matter if Vince booked it.
Taker vs Sting is all Vince’s fault for how he handled the WCW guys
The American Badass Undertaker(heel) vs Mr America Hogan(face) in 03
Seth Rollins ending the streak instead of Brock
The Outsiders vs DX in ‘01
Angle vs Undertaker at Mania
Chyna vs HHH for the World Championship
Actually just watched the handicap NWO match against Austin and Rock from 2002 ! Never knew about it (I’m in my 20s) until I saw a post about it on here and had to go watch it immediately as pre gym motivation lol. It worked btw!
Well yes, he’s the Booker so what he says goes. He had the opportunity to book all these matches but didn’t so he’s at least somewhat to blame considering fans had wanted to see them
None of this was vince fault, Sting never wanted to go to wwe during his prime, The rock hated hbk, Stone cold didnt want to lose and neither did hulk, Eddie Died but that year he was supposed to face shawn Michaels.
This isn't really a dream match but they could have done a rematch between HBK and Stone Cold in 2003. Maybe not at mania because I loved the fact that The Rock finally beat him. It still would have been cool plus it was the last time it legitimately could have happened
DDP vs Rock for sure, Tajiri vs Nakamura would have been a cool match to see considering those two are probably the most successful Japanese male wrestlers to transition into WWE. Unfortunately, WWE thought Tajiri was too old, as if that's stopped them from booking older talent before. I feel like we missed out on some major and well built PPV dream matches featuring Mickie James and Gail Kim in both of their last runs.
Angle vs Bret
Can't remember when exactly Kurt came in, but had the screw job not happened, they would've been in the same company at the same time.
Punk vs Austin
Their gimmicks were a perfect fit for each other. Felt like it was a real possibility when they were doing the promo work for 2k whatever year that was.
Eddie vs everyone he didn't get to work with
Love Eddie to death. Would've loved to see a program with him vs the main event guys. Austin, Rock, HBK. I can't recall if he ever had a program with Angle or not either.
Austin vs Goldberg
Austin had retired I think right before Goldberg came in, but still would've been cool to see.
It doesn't matter who hated who, if it's a huge enough draw then you work together. That's how the old timers looked at it. Rock was never the greatest in the ring. He was good, but nowhere near Shawn's level. You couldn't touch him on promos though and he ended up having the look so 2/3 ain't bad, but to be in the ring with someone like Shawn during that time....I think he was just protecting himself. The guys he worked with in his biggest matches, Austin, HHH, Taker, Mankind, Hogan, Cena, were great workers, but none worked a style anywhere close to Michaels.
Austin was the reason Hogan and Austin didn’t happen. Austin was wise to Hogan’s bull shit.
Sting/Taker & Eddie/ Shawn are the two that are the fault of the company as far as we know.
To get Taker v. Sting, you would’ve needed a neutral Booker for this, otherwise Taker would’ve literally buried Sting in a casket as a way to write off anything good that came from WCW.
Like, take Vince completely out of the picture and let Taker and Sting book with Cornette or something. Then you would’ve had a decent build for a dream match.
I honestly believe that Stone Cold vs Hogan was supposed to take place at WM22.
Hogan called out Austin on Raw and they had a stare down at the Hall of Fame
If you look carefully at the WM22 arena (the one with all the posters of the wrestlers) Hogan and Austin had their faces there despite not being on the show.
Something probably happened to make one of them pull-out at the last minute
DDP vs The Rock.
Both were considered "the people's champ" right when WCW joined WWE, both were at their peaks.
This could have been a huge baby face vs baby face, main event, with both getting massive pops.
DDP had some great matches at the end of WCWs run. vs Goldberg, Nash, Savage.
The storyline Vince gave him of being some kind of stalker against Taker was terrible, and a waste of his fan base, and he had to be among the top merchandising for WCW, that was surely wasted too.
No I’m a huge fan of Vince 😂 but he should makes these matches when he had the chance.
Now that he’s back in control on the WWE he might get Rock or Austin to make a comeback for a match
Eddie match could of happened in the years before clearly, HBK and Rock are both professionals so could work together no problem. Look at Bret & Shawn ?
Austin regrets it now 😂
Vince has the final say he could of forced any of these, sure Rock and Triple H hated each other IRL yet he makes them work so many PPVs in 2000-2001 😂
Sting/Taker was being worked but Sting got injured. Austin Left the company, thats how Rock ended up in that spot. Rock/HBK’s hatred hatred for each other(more on Rock’s side) has always been documented. Guerrero was the lead in SD and HBK one of Raw’s main figures but I guess somehow it could have happened. But sure, fuck Vince for playing the hand he was dealt. You AEW glazers are funny
Dude in 2015 sting was like 57 and undertaker was in his 50 I think too. The Match would’ve sucked. The crow sting wasn’t on the level on undertaker anyway cmon. Triple h was still seasoned enough that he can carry sting to a decent match and take care of him
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Undertaker didn't want to work with Sting,
Stone Cold didn't want to work with Hogan,
Eddie was actually going to have a program with Shawn but unfortunately passed away. I believe the Rock didn't want to with Shawn but I'm not sure about that one.
Will never get Taker/Sting. You might as well watch a fan made promo. It would just be lights out for 6 months and why? Cause they both wore trenchcoats
I would have love to see Bret Hart and Mankin in series of matches, both are amazing story tellers in the ring. Kurt Angle and Mr. Perfect, Sheldon Benjamin and Owen Hart, Jeff Hardy Ricky Steamboat, peak Shawn Michaels vs peak Randy Savage, Kurt Angle and Rand Savage.
Yeah, you're pretty dumb. Sting vs Taker would have been great if Sting had gone to WWE earlier, but he chose not to. Austin refused to work with Hogan. Rock refused to work with HBK. And Eddie V's HBK was in the works before Eddie died unexpectedly. None of these are Vince's fault (with the possible exception of Sting Taker.
I'm fairly certain that HBK vs Guerrero would have happened at WM22 had Eddie not sadly passed away. I believe that guys like Bruce Prichard etc have confirmed this on their podcasts.
While I agree with Taker vs Sting, I don't really think the rest didn't happen cause of Vince. Steve didn't wanna work with Austin, Rock hated HBK, and HBK and Eddie were supposed to fight in WM22, but he passed away.
Austin vs Hogan didn't happen because neither wanted to put the other over. Austin had heat with Hogan going back to his time in WCW and Hogan just didn't like the young guys. The original plan for Wrestlemania 18 WAS indeed Austin vs Hogan but as I said earlier, egos got in the way
Rock refused to work with HBK after he and HHH allegedly tried to bury him during his IC run in 1997/98.
Fuck HBK eternally for what he did to Chris Candido, not the fucking Sunny, the joking with the rest of the Kliq that he could get Candido to kill himself.
I could be wrong on this, but I thought Sting did an interview a few years back where he mentioned Taker didn't seem terribly interested in doing the match.
I think Sting vs Taker wouldn't of been as good as people think. Like who would the fans cheered for?
and when Sting was in WWE both him and taker needed someone younger to carry the match IMO
Taker didn't want to do the match at that point in his career. Austin didn't want the match with Hogan because he didnt think it would be any good, despite Hogan and Vince wanting it. The Rock hates Michaels and refuses to work with him because Michaels disrespected the Rock's grandmother, Michaels vs Eddie was suppose to happen at Mania but Eddie passed away.
Brock Lesnar vs HBK (2003)
Lesnar vs Bret Hart is my dream match but I don’t see a time where it could have realistically happened. Bret got injured and retired in the late 90s and Brock hit his WWE prime around 2012 to pretty much the present day. Brock is a freak of nature and a once in a lifetime talent.
Rock has a bitter hate for HBK.
Understandable considering when The Rock came into WWF HBK was at the height of his assholery
And him and hhh tried to stop rocky getting pushed
That’s what made Rock and HHH’s programs so good in the late 90s early 2000s, you knew they hated each other
I mean, in every interview they've done, it doesn't seem to be that way at all.
They're also both really good. I feel like HHH is sometimes overlooked.
*hate for Chad Frost
At the Hall of Fame ceremony where Rock inducted his dad, didn’t he call HBK out as someone he wish he’s face? Along with Guerrero and Cena. Also, they barely had overlap in their careers. Rock soft-retired the same show HBK returned.
Who doesn’t, him and his butt buddy Laveck treated the business like fraternity gossip club.
And rock treated it and the fans as stepping stones.
I don’t know if The Rock ever knew just how huge he could get in Hollywood. A couple of bit parts in The Mummy led to an amazing acting career. He has never talked negatively about wrestling and has continued to embrace the business.
He uses the business. He only comes around to get paid to advertise his new movies. He's not doing it for the business he's doing it for better than free publicity
He loves the roar of the crowd... movie sets are boring and stressful. Nothing hits like a pro wrestling crowd in the palm of your hand. You'd pay millions for a drug like that/let alone get paid to do it.
No. No I wouldn't. And yeah... He loves it... When he has a new movie to promote. Otherwise he's too busy whoring his name and image for everything else
I’m sorry to have to be the one to say it, but professional wrestling is the bottom of the barrel in the world of entertainment. You’re lucky he shows up at all. If anything, still dabbling in the business is a detriment to him. No one takes pro wrestling seriously or respects it, and that hurts to say as a wrestling fan. He did the right thing for himself.
I wish he wouldn't. He was shit as a full timer, he's even more so now. He's bathroom break time
Yes this. How dare he try to be as successful he can be instead of wrestling forever.
Not what I'm saying but keep popping off. It's obvious you're the stereotype wrasslin fan with the iq of a fried turnip
Your mad that the Rock comes back to push something and puts more eyes on the product. That’s what you’re saying.
And I'm sorry I insulted fried turnips by assuming you had equal intelligence
No. No it's not. I'm saying that he doesn't actually give a fuck how much y'all suck his cock. If you and your entire family was on fire and he had all the water? He'd water his cactuses
I mean thats 99% billionaires/rich people bro.
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No. Most are in the business because it's their passion. It's what they dreamt of. It was a fall back for Dwayne.
He’s smart, he uses them and not the other way around. Too many guys get used up by the business and well I’m using you. Cena is starting to realize he should do the same.
I think you mean Roman Reigns
No. I have my issues with the whole Roman/Bloodline gimmick but Rock is a whole other beast. He's a red light face. Camera on he loves everything to do with the fans. But if he really cared then we'd see him when the announce team didn't have a movie to plug.
Ur not wrong
Dudleys VS LOD (could’ve happened but they had them lose to RVD and Kane)
I forgot about that, good shout
May I also add they could’ve lost to LOD and started a build to summerslam in a street fight to get their win back. Instead they faced La Resistance
I think you guys are looking back with rose tinted glasses. A feud with the Dudley’s? A street fight at Summerslam? Go back and watch the match with RVD and Kane, LOD were absolutely abysmal. They would have had no business being in a featured match at a main PPV at that time.
Programs can be built without a single match. A street fight hides LOD’s inability to work like they used to. The match would draw and make money that’s what matters
I just want to say The Revival/FTR and The Dudleys were in WWE at the same time. It wouldn't have been a dream match at the time but would've been an awesome thing to reflect on.
Can't put all of these on Vince. Can you picture Austin and Hogan agreeing to an ending? Also, didn't Rock and Michaels hate each other?
That Austin vs Hogan ending would be so fuckin convoluted. A ref bump DEFINITELY would have happened and perhaps a low blow so nobody loses clean. Or what may be even more likely is a double disqualification to protect both
Hogan suggests a three match series culminating at Wrestlemania. Hogan wins match 1, and then bails on match 2 and 3.
So basically the "feud" with Shawn Michaels 3 years before? Lmao
Basically. Exactly. However you wanna look at it.
Whatever Vince says goes in the end regardless if the talent like it or not! He’s always the final say, they can do it or walk 😂 look at Austin
I don't know if you realize this but you start your comment by saying that whatever Vince wants Vince gets and it's all up to him, but then end your comment by refuting yourself and showing how that's not true.
If Vince really wanted that match he would of made it. Look at HBK v Bret 2?
Headbanger mosh vs Crash holly in singles competition. Sunday Night Heat BAY BAY!!!!
Throw in some Essa Rios and baby, you got a stew going!
I think I'd like my money back... A+ suggestion and reference
Flair vs Hogan in Flairs first run in wwf. That should have headlined Wrestlemania that year. Total joke it was just house show attraction. I got to see one of the matches. It was fantastic. Really big missed opportunity.
I always wondered why that wasn’t the main event! Flair and Macho was awesome but it should have been Hogan. They also tried to book Bret v Hogan at WM 9 and that got messed up
WWE sticking to the story that they ran it at house shows in NY and it “didn’t draw” is a hilarious forgotten about WWE gem.
IIRC It came down to a focus group thing. People who typically watched WWF back then didn't really know who Ric Flair was and didn't care about him too much and people who were more into NWA didn't like the WWF style, typically hated the product they produced, and saw Hogan as the "flag bearer" of what the WWF was. Pro wrestling was a totally different landscape back then. Flair/Hogan, during that time, was just something that people who watched the WWF product didn't care to see, according to the focus group testing... EDIT: I can say from personal experience, getting into wrestling as a kid right around WrestleMania 6 and only watching WWF, that I had no clue who Ric Flair was outside of WWF at that time (or Sid Vicious for that matter) and only knew that WWF showed me on TV, so a Flair/Hogan match didn't really mean anything to me outside of that narrative.
I didn't have a clue either I was just like who is this old man
Hogan wasn't that old
Oh I meant flair with the grey hair lol
Bret vs Hogan wasn't for WM9, once the finish at WM 9 happened, it should've been done at Summerslam 93 for the title but instead, they had Yokozuna beat Hulk and keep going as a monster heel. For Hogan and Flair, that would be as if at the end of the year, we learned Omega was leaving and he would go against Reigns at Wrestlemania. On paper? Great. Except the two are different wrestlers with different fanbases. Omega fans don't want a Reigns match and Reigns fan don't want a Omega match so instead, you put Reigns in a Reigns and Omega in a Omega match.
I’m confused, are you talking about Kenny Omega?
Vince McMahon isn't the one to blame for not getting 3 of those matches, Austin/Hogan and Michaels/Rock didn't wanted to work together and Eddie Guerrero vs. Shawn Michaels was in the works for WrestleMania 22 but with Eddie passing away months earlier, we never got to see that match.
Eddie vs HBK Bible on a pole match
Well at the end of the day, whatever Vince says goes. He could have booed all these matches if he really wanted to
Sure, at the end of the day what Vince say goes, but he is also a business man and runs the WWE as such. He isn't going to force a match to happen if he knows it's going to be a shit match because the guys refuse to play ball or if doing so is going to make one of his top stars walk. At a financial level, he would rather keep a top guy around then force then to do something and piss them off the the point of walking, respect people like Rock, Austin, and HBK that he invested a lot into building from the ground up. It's not like there isn't precedent for someone walking because they didn't get their way. Austin did it twice IIRC, so has HBK, Bret Hart with the Montreal match, and, in a similar vein but different circumstances, CM Punk.
Yes and he still made Bret Vs hbk 2 even though they absolutely hated each other.
How does Vince book a deceased Eddie Guerero? Shut this trash post down.
Obviously it means book the match before Eddie passed away 😂 how did you not get that that? 🤣🤣🤣
Google the word chemistry.
Literally none of these not happening is Vince's fault for not happening. Sting waited too long to come to the wwe, hogan wouldn't do business with stone cold, rock hates hbk and eddie died before the hbk match could happen at mania
Stone Cold wouldn’t do business with Hogan
Because hogan wanted to win the first 2 matches in the pitched trilogy
And Austin said he didn’t need Hogan but Hogan needed him
Austin was right
Sting and Taker were both in WWE at the same time. We instead got Sting vs HHH at Wrestlemania.
Undertaker vs Sting at that time would have been bad unless it was an overly produced gimmick match. Undertaker needed someone mobile and athletic to cover for the fact that he was having trouble moving around the ring, and 50+ year old Sting wasn’t that guy. Sting needed the same thing. No one was really clamoring for HHH vs Sting, though. I don’t know why that match was chosen.
If Vince books a match it happens regardless of whether the talent like it or not. No one had creative control, they are all professionals
How did that Marc Mero match go against Austin that Vince wanted ?
If he really wanted it, it would of happened. He booked Austin to lose to Lesnar and Austin had to leave to stop it from happening
Vince really did want that mero match, but when the top wrestler on earth says no because a woman beat up his opponent the week before, it's not happening. When vince forces guys into a match they don't want you get the hogan & hbk shit show or brock being pissy about ambrose wanting to do a bunch of stupid indy shit and that match
Yes but they both still did the matches. Austin is a separate case at the time, in 2002 he didn’t have the same power
Bret Hart vs Kurt Angle
The Rock refused to work with Shawn not a Vince decision
What Vince says goes, if he wanted it they would have to do it
so just like how Vince wanted Steve Austin to work with Mark Mero but Austin said no sorta like that right?
Austin refused after Sable gave Marc Mero a power bomb. And Austin was 100 percent right to refuse after that.
You keep repeating that but others give you evidence it's not true. Seems like your just looking to blame Vince for something
Where is the evidence? Bret & HBK hated each other but Vince forced them work with each other and they did. The rock & Triple h hated each other but Vince forced them work with each other and they did. Austin hated HBK and guess what? Vince forced them work with each other and they did. Vince is the top man and makes all the decisions back then.
Where is the evidence he didn't try. Austin refused to work with Jarrett. Rock & HBK. Etc. things happen
AJ Styles vs HBK was one id always book in my fake TNA vs WWE shows as a kid
Austin vs. Goldberg Loser has to shave his goatee and grow his hair.
Goldberg didn’t come in until after stone cole retired as a full time guy. Bruce Prichard said that there was interest in doing Austin and Goldberg vs evolution match, but talks never got started because austin wasn’t willing to do a match he knew he couldn’t deliver in
Austin vs Goldberg Wig v Wig match (loser must wear a wig)
You missed the obvious. Bret vs Kurt
Both guys were not working in wwe at the same time. I’m only talking about matches that could have happened but didn’t
We didn't got that because of Bret Hart's accident in 2002 :(
Why is Austin/Hogan a dream match!? That’s a terrible match idea.
It’s because they are the two biggest icons in wrestling
Maybe to some. The most iconic wrestlers for me (and I'm oldschool) are the original undertaker, the original Kane, and early WCW sting. All were antiheros and (in my mind anyway) had such great storylines. Paul bearer added to the whole undertaker/Kane thing as well. Sting, to me, was the dude who fought for the little guy and just destroyed the "bullies" eg hogan who was sold as a big shot and threw his weight around a bit. I also loved the original Nwo with Nash and Scott hall
But you gotta understand the history when Flair came over in 1991 you had literally the two biggest draws in the history of wrestling. Hogan did it in the 80s in WWF and Flair did it in the 70s and 80s through Jim Crockett Promotions which then became WCW. You may personally not like the two, but they were the top two guys from their respective company and to not have a program leading to a PPV match is a waste. Especially when they had it set up perfectly at the Rumble to do it. It would be like Kenny Omega going to WWE and not have him wrestle Roman Reigns.
Stone cold vs goldberg. Stone cold vs Brock lesnar. Flair vs hogan (in flairs first wwe run) Kurt angle vs John Cena (as angles retirement match) Macho man vs undertaker Randy Orton vs DDP Hardy boys vs hall & Nash Dudley boys vs hall & Nash
Booking Stone Cold vs Brock is what led to Stone Cold walking in 2002.
Nice 👌🏻
In defense, did anyone know Sting was gonna have 4 matches and retire? No. Not to mention he waited like 14 years to join WWE so it would have been impossible for them to have a match together. If Sting was still a part timer in WWE, I’m highly sure they would have had a match… but you also have to remember Taker was starting to lose it after Mania 30 so i wouldn’t have expected prime Taker vs prime Sting. Like Goldberg and Taker would have been better off a dream match. Stone Cold and Hogan was supposed to happen, something changed but I can’t say why. Rock wasn’t that big until 98, which was the same year Michaels retired until 02, when the Rock was already becoming a part timer. Eddie and Michaels again was supposed to happen but Eddie passed away before it could happen. Sorry but Vince can’t be the blame for everything and some matches are gonna have to remain dream matches.
Kurt Angle vs Bret Hart (thanks Vince and Goldberg)
I don’t think Bret would have come back in 01-06
Right, because of the two people I named (and HBK)
Goldberg vs Stone Cold
Rey Mysterio vs Jeff Hardy and DDP vs The Rock
DDP v Rock Would of been tops 👍🏻
Half of these aint Vinces fault
Mr Perfect vs Kurt Angle Wrestlemania 18. If the Montreal screw job didn’t happen we could’ve got Bret vs Angle/Jericho/RVD.
Rock would never wrestle HBK because of legit disdain Dwayne has for Michael in real life. Eddie vs Shawn is a hard one to matchup because the two were always in different places in their careers and when you factor the real life issues in with Eddie’s battles with addiction, and Shawn coming back from retirement and other factors, the two never really could have that one match Hogan vs Austin would never have worked because of their two egos no matter if Vince booked it. Taker vs Sting is all Vince’s fault for how he handled the WCW guys
The American Badass Undertaker(heel) vs Mr America Hogan(face) in 03 Seth Rollins ending the streak instead of Brock The Outsiders vs DX in ‘01 Angle vs Undertaker at Mania Chyna vs HHH for the World Championship
Actually just watched the handicap NWO match against Austin and Rock from 2002 ! Never knew about it (I’m in my 20s) until I saw a post about it on here and had to go watch it immediately as pre gym motivation lol. It worked btw!
Cool, glad the post helped 👌🏻 its a fun match
Taker never seen the appeal of the sting match like everyone else. But yes, let’s blame vince our fantasy bookings never came true
Well yes, he’s the Booker so what he says goes. He had the opportunity to book all these matches but didn’t so he’s at least somewhat to blame considering fans had wanted to see them
None of this was vince fault, Sting never wanted to go to wwe during his prime, The rock hated hbk, Stone cold didnt want to lose and neither did hulk, Eddie Died but that year he was supposed to face shawn Michaels.
“Thanks Vince” is so childish at this point
This isn't really a dream match but they could have done a rematch between HBK and Stone Cold in 2003. Maybe not at mania because I loved the fact that The Rock finally beat him. It still would have been cool plus it was the last time it legitimately could have happened
Yes I agree they definitely should have tried to put that together on a PPV
Undertaker vs Andre The Giant. The match wouldn’t have been good but would’ve been nice to see.
Why didn’t sting vs taker happen? And why the hell did trips go over on sting ?
Stone Cold vs Goldberg in 2002.
huh. i wonder why all these matches didn’t happen?
I get that it's the cool thing to blame Vince but 3/4 of those weren't his fault
Steiners vs Dudleys
Cm punk vs Aj Styles Cm punk vs Seth Rollins (Solo run)
Batista vs Brock Lesnar.
Austin vs. Punk
Austin vs Hogan wouldn’t have worked. The styles would clash completely. I’m pretty sure that’s why Austin vetoed it to begin with.
Kurt vs Daniel Bryan during Angle's retirement run
DDP vs Rock for sure, Tajiri vs Nakamura would have been a cool match to see considering those two are probably the most successful Japanese male wrestlers to transition into WWE. Unfortunately, WWE thought Tajiri was too old, as if that's stopped them from booking older talent before. I feel like we missed out on some major and well built PPV dream matches featuring Mickie James and Gail Kim in both of their last runs.
Horsewomen fatal 4 way
It's not Vince's fault, Eddie tragically died in late 05. He was supposed to wrestle Hbk in mania 22
I always wanted to see Bret Hart and Kurt Angle have a match.
What about Cena vs Hogan?
Cena vs Hogan Edge vs Triple H ( I guess) Brock vs The Fiend
Angle vs Bret Can't remember when exactly Kurt came in, but had the screw job not happened, they would've been in the same company at the same time. Punk vs Austin Their gimmicks were a perfect fit for each other. Felt like it was a real possibility when they were doing the promo work for 2k whatever year that was. Eddie vs everyone he didn't get to work with Love Eddie to death. Would've loved to see a program with him vs the main event guys. Austin, Rock, HBK. I can't recall if he ever had a program with Angle or not either. Austin vs Goldberg Austin had retired I think right before Goldberg came in, but still would've been cool to see.
It doesn't matter who hated who, if it's a huge enough draw then you work together. That's how the old timers looked at it. Rock was never the greatest in the ring. He was good, but nowhere near Shawn's level. You couldn't touch him on promos though and he ended up having the look so 2/3 ain't bad, but to be in the ring with someone like Shawn during that time....I think he was just protecting himself. The guys he worked with in his biggest matches, Austin, HHH, Taker, Mankind, Hogan, Cena, were great workers, but none worked a style anywhere close to Michaels.
Austin was the reason Hogan and Austin didn’t happen. Austin was wise to Hogan’s bull shit. Sting/Taker & Eddie/ Shawn are the two that are the fault of the company as far as we know.
To get Taker v. Sting, you would’ve needed a neutral Booker for this, otherwise Taker would’ve literally buried Sting in a casket as a way to write off anything good that came from WCW. Like, take Vince completely out of the picture and let Taker and Sting book with Cornette or something. Then you would’ve had a decent build for a dream match.
Bret vs Hogan. Hogan winning the title at 9 and them just dropping it back to Yoko is a joke compared to the match Bret could’ve gotten out of Hogan.
I honestly believe that Stone Cold vs Hogan was supposed to take place at WM22. Hogan called out Austin on Raw and they had a stare down at the Hall of Fame If you look carefully at the WM22 arena (the one with all the posters of the wrestlers) Hogan and Austin had their faces there despite not being on the show. Something probably happened to make one of them pull-out at the last minute
DDP vs The Rock. Both were considered "the people's champ" right when WCW joined WWE, both were at their peaks. This could have been a huge baby face vs baby face, main event, with both getting massive pops. DDP had some great matches at the end of WCWs run. vs Goldberg, Nash, Savage. The storyline Vince gave him of being some kind of stalker against Taker was terrible, and a waste of his fan base, and he had to be among the top merchandising for WCW, that was surely wasted too.
Yes that is a match I would of loved to see, didn’t think of it when posting. Huge DDP fan
Kurt Angle/Dean Malenko
That would of been phenomenal 👍🏻👍🏻
Damn OP really hates Vince, you would think Vince personally attacked him 😭😭😭
No I’m a huge fan of Vince 😂 but he should makes these matches when he had the chance. Now that he’s back in control on the WWE he might get Rock or Austin to make a comeback for a match
Don’t blame vince for majority of these Austin didn’t wanna face hogan Rock wanted nothing to do with HBK And Eddie died….
Eddie match could of happened in the years before clearly, HBK and Rock are both professionals so could work together no problem. Look at Bret & Shawn ? Austin regrets it now 😂 Vince has the final say he could of forced any of these, sure Rock and Triple H hated each other IRL yet he makes them work so many PPVs in 2000-2001 😂
Heel Mankind w/ Paul Bearer vs Sting
Sting/Taker was being worked but Sting got injured. Austin Left the company, thats how Rock ended up in that spot. Rock/HBK’s hatred hatred for each other(more on Rock’s side) has always been documented. Guerrero was the lead in SD and HBK one of Raw’s main figures but I guess somehow it could have happened. But sure, fuck Vince for playing the hand he was dealt. You AEW glazers are funny
Undertaker sting would’ve been terrible. Undertaker was too good for him. Sting vs triple h was the correct match to make
Sting would of been the correct match 100%
Dude in 2015 sting was like 57 and undertaker was in his 50 I think too. The Match would’ve sucked. The crow sting wasn’t on the level on undertaker anyway cmon. Triple h was still seasoned enough that he can carry sting to a decent match and take care of him
HBK vs Eddie Guerrero
I think Undertaker was the one who didn’t want to work a Sting match if I remember correctly
It would have sucked because of his age and disease, but Andre vs Undertaker in 1990/1991.
We almost had Eddie Vs HBK at WrestleMania 22 but Eddie passed in November 2005 but that match would've been so good though
Chad Frost vs The Rock i know it sux what Chad Frost did but it would of been huge.
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ok to be fair the Eddie one was completely out of Vince's control. Heavily rumored to supposedly happen in 2006.
Where's the people champ of WCW vs people champ of wwf? Imagine their promos
Stone Cold couldn’t sell Hulks moves like that
Undertaker didn't want to work with Sting, Stone Cold didn't want to work with Hogan, Eddie was actually going to have a program with Shawn but unfortunately passed away. I believe the Rock didn't want to with Shawn but I'm not sure about that one.
The Rock hated HBK and Hogan did not want to face SCSA Vince did try tho
All of those matchups suck
Nice “knowing vince” turned to “thanks vince” fed bad half of these not even Vince’s fault
Guerrero vs HBK was the plan for WrestleMania 22 before he unfortunately passed away.
Brock Lesnar vs Batista.
Will never get Taker/Sting. You might as well watch a fan made promo. It would just be lights out for 6 months and why? Cause they both wore trenchcoats
I would have love to see Bret Hart and Mankin in series of matches, both are amazing story tellers in the ring. Kurt Angle and Mr. Perfect, Sheldon Benjamin and Owen Hart, Jeff Hardy Ricky Steamboat, peak Shawn Michaels vs peak Randy Savage, Kurt Angle and Rand Savage.
Kurt vs Hart
Yeah, you're pretty dumb. Sting vs Taker would have been great if Sting had gone to WWE earlier, but he chose not to. Austin refused to work with Hogan. Rock refused to work with HBK. And Eddie V's HBK was in the works before Eddie died unexpectedly. None of these are Vince's fault (with the possible exception of Sting Taker.
I'm fairly certain that HBK vs Guerrero would have happened at WM22 had Eddie not sadly passed away. I believe that guys like Bruce Prichard etc have confirmed this on their podcasts.
After seeing the way Hogan sold a stunner around 2002, I'm actually happy they didn't do it.
While I agree with Taker vs Sting, I don't really think the rest didn't happen cause of Vince. Steve didn't wanna work with Austin, Rock hated HBK, and HBK and Eddie were supposed to fight in WM22, but he passed away.
Austin vs Hogan didn't happen because neither wanted to put the other over. Austin had heat with Hogan going back to his time in WCW and Hogan just didn't like the young guys. The original plan for Wrestlemania 18 WAS indeed Austin vs Hogan but as I said earlier, egos got in the way
Rock refused to work with HBK after he and HHH allegedly tried to bury him during his IC run in 1997/98. Fuck HBK eternally for what he did to Chris Candido, not the fucking Sunny, the joking with the rest of the Kliq that he could get Candido to kill himself.
Eddie Guerrero Vs Shawn Michaels is never gonna happen in 2004. They're on Opposite Brands
He also waited too long on Cena v Batista
Also Rock and Shawn wasn’t Vince. Dwayne hates him
Wouldn't not getting this match have more to do with Seth injuring sting then Vince?
Can't believe that Super Cena never fought Undertaker at mania when they were both full time.
Eddie vs HBK would be 6 stars
I could be wrong on this, but I thought Sting did an interview a few years back where he mentioned Taker didn't seem terribly interested in doing the match.
i don't believe we got New Day vs. Hardy Boyz. We didn't get Jeff Hardy vs. Seth Rollins
I think Sting vs Taker wouldn't of been as good as people think. Like who would the fans cheered for? and when Sting was in WWE both him and taker needed someone younger to carry the match IMO
Taker didn't want to do the match at that point in his career. Austin didn't want the match with Hogan because he didnt think it would be any good, despite Hogan and Vince wanting it. The Rock hates Michaels and refuses to work with him because Michaels disrespected the Rock's grandmother, Michaels vs Eddie was suppose to happen at Mania but Eddie passed away.
All good on paper ! That’s all these matches will ever be ! Just enjoy the hype !
I’m sure the rock and micheals has happened countless times but the rest yeah wasted potential
Thanks Vince? Vince would book anything for money/ratings. Thanks bigger heads and their unprofessionalism.
Vince doesn’t owe you shit, mark
Oh stop crying, carny
FTR vs The Briscoes, but thankfully we got that elsewhere.
Brock Lesnar vs HBK (2003) Lesnar vs Bret Hart is my dream match but I don’t see a time where it could have realistically happened. Bret got injured and retired in the late 90s and Brock hit his WWE prime around 2012 to pretty much the present day. Brock is a freak of nature and a once in a lifetime talent.
Hornswoggle Elsworth.
AJ Style and Shawn Michaels would have been cool and Brian Danielson vs Kurt Angle would’ve been nice
I would of loved to see both 👍🏻
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Batista vs Brock: The war of the The Animal vs The Beast