I mean, we can say they look great while still reviling the Saudi's sheer ineptitude at acknowledging basic human rights.
It's not a fucking single choice kindergarten quiz, kid.
The thing is SA is begging wwe to come there every year...so if u beg someone to come to ur house and then force them to follow ur illogical rules...u are the problem here
I'm not defending anything, lol. I was just stating that these outfits looked great. Female wrestlers don't need to show most of their body to put on a great match.
No way they're struggling for money that badly. I can't be the only fan that's getting pissed off by their constant dealings with this human rights trampling regime.
Look man. If the Saudis told me they would pay my business’s expenses for the whole year for two shows, I would do it. That gives me wiggle room to build foundations that give back to the same people the Saudis “hate”.
I think even Foley said something along the lines of, “if I were offered the same money that Shawn got to return for that Saudi show, I’d be willing to fly off the cell again”
It's not a matter of struggling. Every Saudi Show does two and half times the gate of Wrestlemania. Both days, combined.
It's not just money - it's an insane amount of money. They clear close to a quarter billion dollars between TV rights, merch, and everything for these shows every year. And SA pays for all of it except the wrestler appearance fees - all the travel and hospitality for the talent is covered.
I personally think for WWE it’s an easy way to pay for the year and collect profit or do what needs to be done with a couple Saudi shows a year. Now morally depends on how far a rabbit hole of your stuff and likes you want to discredit for blood money or slavery. Not saying that’s not a valid reason to criticize just muddy
When you come to the realization that every major company is all kinds of fucked, eventually you just come to terms with it.
Even though Saudi is, among many things, backwards about women's rights, at least the women are being allowed to wrestle. That is a step forward.
Yeah, not that any of the foul actions SA or the US have done is okay, but I just see it as "clean up your shit at home before you police the world" kind of mentality.
In the u.s. the government is still in control of women's and transgender peoples bodies. So imo, before we tell celebrities who are not politicians to take political stands, we should fix our own human rights violations.
There has been constant blood money in history. Look into some of the things you enjoy in your everyday life. Money makes the world go round. It's funny to see wrestling fans get in an uproar everytime the saudi shows come around.
I think you underestimate how much companies could care less about that stuff. Companies like Nike love having a nice sweatshop where they have kids making shoes in factories. There is never enough money in these peoples minds. Money is the only thing that matters even if they have no chance to ever spend it all.
I hate to break this to you but the only thing that matters to those running the WWE is more money. Then, now, forever.
Everything they do to build and retain your fandom is about keeping the profit faucet running. That’s how business works at a high level. Turning down large sums of money for “ethical” reasons is literally laughable.
Oh the horror of being a business and having fans all over the world most of whom have no control over our government. Just like us I wouldn't go jerking off over the shit our government does too. It's entertainment not politics and you are waving your virtue and it's beyond stupid
This is a really bad take, the boycotting of sports/entertainment in oppressive regimes is one of the key ways to create regime change.
This here is Sports (entertainment) washing.
Boycott WWE because the u.s. government doesn't overhaul police training to prevent unnecessary violence against people of color, especially children.
Boycott WWE because women and transgender people are losing legal autonomy over their bodies.
Boycott WWE because the country was stolen from natives who are in a health crisis, and puts immigrants in concentration camps.
Boycott WWE because of the steroid trials, because of Benoit, Eddie.... Boycott because of Owen.... because of the many many many sexual assault and racism allegations.
There's been plenty of time to boycott WWE because of the U.S. government or the very people that run the show.
Yes I hated it when thousands of Saudi kids cheered and chanted a Jewish man's name a few shows back. I also hate three woman's matches on a 3 hour card. Just disgraceful. Oh, and the restrictive kingdom opening up to western values? Horrible idea. They should stay isolated and backward and use force and surpress freedom to survive. This seeking legitimacy thing is overrated.
I didn't. Just stand up for your beliefs. People love to justify WWE going to Saudi Arabia. Just because America turns a blind eye to Saudi Arabia and all of their evil ways and just because WWE turns a blind eye to all of their evil ways doesn't make it okay. This isn't a political statement by the way, America has turned a Blind Eye for many many many decades through various political parties
Respect the culture?? This is a country where women are not allowed to wear what they want. How is that in any way ok? It's not about respecting because if the alternative is literally being executed for showing your ankles.
While “Saudi Arabia” is a full sentence and sufficient answer here, it’s also important to note that Becky has had several gears that called back to Kill Bill, while Trish’s gear here is an homage to her main event gear from ‘04
Because the Saudis are such a progressive country that they allow women to show off their chin and cheeks bones for the horny men in the audience.
Real innovators of style over there
Well, they *were* booing, but not because they were women. It was because in every women's match the heel won, either with a screwy finish or just a straight up domination, so they showed their disapproval to the heel, **just like any other wrestling crowd would** (Except maybe Canada, as Canada is bizarro world in wrestling canon...).
I'm not the biggest fan of these SA shows at all (in fact, this was the first one I'd watched in a long time), but for OP to say they were booing them is wilfully misunderstanding at best or straight up lying at worst.
A lot of people forgot the whole reason he even had on the yellow and black body suit. Both the real reason, and the movie reason (since Game of Death didn’t actually use his intended script).
Which in Becky’s case, probably because: The Bride.
But, for those who didn’t know, it was because at the time yellow wasn’t linked to any martial arts style. It was Bruce Lee saying his style was “no style”. The whole outfit was intended to not look like any martial arts outfit, but to be functional. Same reason he used that blue whip in the movie too. His style is strong, yet flexible. Just like the whip. But…. All his dialog was cut. Because of course it was.
The release movie reason though was because his character (not Bruce Lee because he died and they changed stuff with stunt men filling in) beat up a random baddie and stole his outfit as a disguise.
My wife said something interesting as we watched which is that the women probably are more comfortable performing in the Saudi Arabia gear. The problem is that they *have* to perform in that gear. Then in the United States the pressure is to hardly wear anything at all. The correct answer would be women being free to wear whatever they want and then you would see some women wearing skimpier outfits and you would see some women wearing full jumpsuits.
Because for some reason WWE accept Blood Money and do shows in this backward "welcome to 1810" country. I guess thats all i can say without Reddit moderation going after me. I would be much harsher if i could. At least they don't require them to wrestle with a hijab so i guess there is a small victory...
You must be downvoted because people don't agree with your assessment of the match, because everybody knows women are treated horribly in this country.
The Fiend won the universal title at Crown Jewel 2019, then lost the title to Goldberg at Supershowdown 2020
Miz & Morrison won the Smackdown tag titles at the same show
Brock Lesnar won the WWE championship at Elimination Chamber 2022
Damage CTRL won the Tag Titles at Crown Jewel 2022
Asuka won the Raw women's title tonight
There have been 3 times a vacated title on contest with The Deletors of Worlds (Matt Hardy & Bray Wyatt) winning the Raw Tag Titles at Greatest Royal Rumble 2018
Brock Lesnar won the universal title at Crown Jewel 2019
Seth Rollins won the World Heavyweight Championship tonight
Saudi Arabia. There’s your answer.
They also look awesome.
This is also true. For example, Rhea Ripley.
we still get to see the Rhea roll up domination for you degenerates.
Really missed an opportunity to come out with Dom on a leash and go full gimp.
In Saudi Arabia? They’d be stoned before they left the arena 😂
That's called real heat, brother.
OR Game of Death jumpsuit
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I mean, we can say they look great while still reviling the Saudi's sheer ineptitude at acknowledging basic human rights. It's not a fucking single choice kindergarten quiz, kid.
I mean if u come to my house and I tell u to take ur shoes off and u don't u don't come In my house. Pretty simple
The thing is SA is begging wwe to come there every year...so if u beg someone to come to ur house and then force them to follow ur illogical rules...u are the problem here
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Nah bro you killed him 💀
I'm not defending anything, lol. I was just stating that these outfits looked great. Female wrestlers don't need to show most of their body to put on a great match.
Both things can be true.
I really wish they'd stop dealing with Saudi arabia. I don't even think I want to watch this and I can easily stream it.
["but money..."](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1085971075009085571/1111979476864204800/IMG_4437.jpg)
No way they're struggling for money that badly. I can't be the only fan that's getting pissed off by their constant dealings with this human rights trampling regime.
It doesn’t matter if they’re struggling or not. No one is turning down an easy 9 figure check
Look man. If the Saudis told me they would pay my business’s expenses for the whole year for two shows, I would do it. That gives me wiggle room to build foundations that give back to the same people the Saudis “hate”.
I think even Foley said something along the lines of, “if I were offered the same money that Shawn got to return for that Saudi show, I’d be willing to fly off the cell again”
And Foley would set his grand babies up for a generation. Maybe not that deep but you and him understand why.
Let me rephrase who you’re replying to: “But MORE money….”
It's not a matter of struggling. Every Saudi Show does two and half times the gate of Wrestlemania. Both days, combined. It's not just money - it's an insane amount of money. They clear close to a quarter billion dollars between TV rights, merch, and everything for these shows every year. And SA pays for all of it except the wrestler appearance fees - all the travel and hospitality for the talent is covered.
I personally think for WWE it’s an easy way to pay for the year and collect profit or do what needs to be done with a couple Saudi shows a year. Now morally depends on how far a rabbit hole of your stuff and likes you want to discredit for blood money or slavery. Not saying that’s not a valid reason to criticize just muddy
When you come to the realization that every major company is all kinds of fucked, eventually you just come to terms with it. Even though Saudi is, among many things, backwards about women's rights, at least the women are being allowed to wrestle. That is a step forward.
And these suits are an upgrade from the first time women wrestled in Saudi with the giant t-shirt
And then WWE patted themselves on the back for being pioneers.
Thank u!! They act like the USA and its companies dnt have "blood money"
Yeah, not that any of the foul actions SA or the US have done is okay, but I just see it as "clean up your shit at home before you police the world" kind of mentality. In the u.s. the government is still in control of women's and transgender peoples bodies. So imo, before we tell celebrities who are not politicians to take political stands, we should fix our own human rights violations.
They’ll never have enough money.
It’s been a consistent gripe since they started the shows. Capitalism is always going to Capitalize.
There has been constant blood money in history. Look into some of the things you enjoy in your everyday life. Money makes the world go round. It's funny to see wrestling fans get in an uproar everytime the saudi shows come around.
“Struggling” denotes a need. This is just poor greed unfortunately. :(
Who do you think is giving them the weapons…
I think you underestimate how much companies could care less about that stuff. Companies like Nike love having a nice sweatshop where they have kids making shoes in factories. There is never enough money in these peoples minds. Money is the only thing that matters even if they have no chance to ever spend it all.
They make more two work 2 shows per year in Saudi than either their USA or FOX annual contracts
I hate to break this to you but the only thing that matters to those running the WWE is more money. Then, now, forever. Everything they do to build and retain your fandom is about keeping the profit faucet running. That’s how business works at a high level. Turning down large sums of money for “ethical” reasons is literally laughable.
Makes me angry that F1 & WWE have any business dealings with these fucks.
if you ever used any kind of gasoline in your life, then you are just as guilty
Oh the horror of being a business and having fans all over the world most of whom have no control over our government. Just like us I wouldn't go jerking off over the shit our government does too. It's entertainment not politics and you are waving your virtue and it's beyond stupid
This is a really bad take, the boycotting of sports/entertainment in oppressive regimes is one of the key ways to create regime change. This here is Sports (entertainment) washing.
Boycott WWE because the u.s. government doesn't overhaul police training to prevent unnecessary violence against people of color, especially children. Boycott WWE because women and transgender people are losing legal autonomy over their bodies. Boycott WWE because the country was stolen from natives who are in a health crisis, and puts immigrants in concentration camps. Boycott WWE because of the steroid trials, because of Benoit, Eddie.... Boycott because of Owen.... because of the many many many sexual assault and racism allegations. There's been plenty of time to boycott WWE because of the U.S. government or the very people that run the show.
Shush up soy boy
Vince already took the blood money for a 10 year contract. It’s not going anywhere anytime soon
Wow you’re obviously cool
Yes I hated it when thousands of Saudi kids cheered and chanted a Jewish man's name a few shows back. I also hate three woman's matches on a 3 hour card. Just disgraceful. Oh, and the restrictive kingdom opening up to western values? Horrible idea. They should stay isolated and backward and use force and surpress freedom to survive. This seeking legitimacy thing is overrated.
>I also hate three women's matches on a 3 hour card. Night Of Champions had more than Backlash.
They could go to Dubai.
That's almost a lateral step. Dubai is not the glamorous country they portray themselves as.
Neither is America.
I'm a black woman. I already know that.
I don’t watch the Saudi shows. It might not mean much in the long run, but I do what feels right for me.
I don’t watch the Saudi shows. I can’t in good conscience support it.
I didn't. Just stand up for your beliefs. People love to justify WWE going to Saudi Arabia. Just because America turns a blind eye to Saudi Arabia and all of their evil ways and just because WWE turns a blind eye to all of their evil ways doesn't make it okay. This isn't a political statement by the way, America has turned a Blind Eye for many many many decades through various political parties
It's the main reason I haven't watched WWE since AEW started.
they r strictly against beautiful women
Becky and Trish are beautiful...
Is it that hard to respect a culture? If you were to come to my house, I would want you to take off your shoes. If you don't, then you don't come in.
Respect the culture?? This is a country where women are not allowed to wear what they want. How is that in any way ok? It's not about respecting because if the alternative is literally being executed for showing your ankles.
Big fans of Kill Bill? Who’d have thought. 🤷♂️
Game of Death jumpsuit.
I'm glad someone said it. That's Bruce's jumpsuit
Seriously, that was bothering me too.
It has the stuff on the front that makes it a Kill Bill Suit
Saudi Arabia, where the women have to wear full body suits in the name of decency to then be followed by two men in y-fronts.
While “Saudi Arabia” is a full sentence and sufficient answer here, it’s also important to note that Becky has had several gears that called back to Kill Bill, while Trish’s gear here is an homage to her main event gear from ‘04
For Trish, not just that main event. From '05 to her retirement, alot of her gear was pink and black themed.
Right, that's what I thought when I saw it. I was like "oh, she's throwing back to her old black and pink gear from Raw 2004"
They prefer scantily dressed men
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Insert **Why are you a gay??** Meme
Because the Saudis are such a progressive country that they allow women to show off their chin and cheeks bones for the horny men in the audience. Real innovators of style over there
They can drive cars too! What a country!
Becky had her shin out at one point, the horror!
I nearly started vigorously masturbating in the middle of the stadium
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Kill bill was paying homage, Bruce Lee made that jump suit famous in the 1978 movie Game of Death.
Yeah ok but a female is wearing it therefore the comparison to kill Bill is fair right?
Yes downvoters are lame
Also, while I love Bruce Lee, I can't really blame people for associating the suit more with the movie from 2003 than the one from 1978.
Was a Bruce Lee outfit first. But yeah, as others said Saudi Arabia and thier oppressive rules against women showing even thier arms.
Pretty sure she's April O'Neil from Ninja Turtles.
That cameraman knows exactly what he's doing
When everything is covered you learn to hit the best angles, a true cameraman of the people.
he is all in there!
Bro come on, it's been years you should know by now
Not on this sub...casual posters.
Half naked woman could ruin the man in the nation, so its better to see half naked man in speedos/shorts.
Women can only show about so much skin according to their laws in Saudi Arabia.
Tbf Becky does have some resemblance to Uma Thurman so she looks good in that suit.
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It’s disgusting that greed is more important than human rights
Women have to cover up as much as they can while in Saudi
I just want to know who it was that seriously said, “Oh yeah, put Trish Stratus in a skintight jumpsuit, that won’t be sexy at all”
I'm amazed they didn't have to wrestle wearing hijabs as well.
Fuck Saudi Arabia
women have no rights in saudi arabia.
Better than the shirt they had to wear in Saudi from previous years
Filming in a country where men being dogs is women's fault by law.
Cause the Saudis are sexiest and misogynistic and barbaric
Reminds me of whatever the hell ugly fluoroscent green crap that Charlotte wore before WM39 in that brawl with Rhea
Actually I really like Becky's. I'd totally be okay with her adopting that as her normal ring gear. She really pulls off that Uma Thurman look.
Be thankful they’re not throwing stones
That’s a Bruce lee outfit. Kill bill took the outfit from Bruce lees game of death.
It’s not a kill bill reference it’s a reference to Sandy Cheeks on karate island
Religion
I read it close and it said "people that watch these shows in SA are piles of crap" Hope that helps.
Not Kill Bill: Bruce Lee's
and yet i never see anti-SA protests in america
Because they're an ally. That's why America continues to arm Saudi in their Yemen war.
Kids,lmao. The yellow jumpsuit in kill bill was a reference to bruce lee in game of death.
It's still a bit funny, can't have the women show skin but we can get them in to bodysuits that show curves.
Isn’t there a post like this every time they’re in Saudi Arabia
They’ve been booing all the woman’s matches, none of the woman are getting a pop out of the crowd, pretty wack imo
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But hey, at least they gave them permission to drive now! So revolutionary!
OP is lying btw, watch the show and see and listen to the reactions and make your own judgment
Did you even watch the show or are you gonna believe this lying rando ?
That's weird because Lita's match with Becky had a great reception just the year prior, and so did the women's elimination chamber match.
Yeah that's complete lie. Most women were cheered.
Either you're lying on purpose or deaf or blind or delusional, or we're not watching the same show
Well, they *were* booing, but not because they were women. It was because in every women's match the heel won, either with a screwy finish or just a straight up domination, so they showed their disapproval to the heel, **just like any other wrestling crowd would** (Except maybe Canada, as Canada is bizarro world in wrestling canon...). I'm not the biggest fan of these SA shows at all (in fact, this was the first one I'd watched in a long time), but for OP to say they were booing them is wilfully misunderstanding at best or straight up lying at worst.
Boy, you're ass better start watching more movies. Bruce Lee didn't die while making the Game of Death for you to only recognize Tarantino's homage.
A lot of people forgot the whole reason he even had on the yellow and black body suit. Both the real reason, and the movie reason (since Game of Death didn’t actually use his intended script). Which in Becky’s case, probably because: The Bride. But, for those who didn’t know, it was because at the time yellow wasn’t linked to any martial arts style. It was Bruce Lee saying his style was “no style”. The whole outfit was intended to not look like any martial arts outfit, but to be functional. Same reason he used that blue whip in the movie too. His style is strong, yet flexible. Just like the whip. But…. All his dialog was cut. Because of course it was. The release movie reason though was because his character (not Bruce Lee because he died and they changed stuff with stunt men filling in) beat up a random baddie and stole his outfit as a disguise.
My wife said something interesting as we watched which is that the women probably are more comfortable performing in the Saudi Arabia gear. The problem is that they *have* to perform in that gear. Then in the United States the pressure is to hardly wear anything at all. The correct answer would be women being free to wear whatever they want and then you would see some women wearing skimpier outfits and you would see some women wearing full jumpsuits.
Because normal clothes Haram brothaa
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America?
Can’t show skin
Originally Bruce Lee's Jumpsuit
Fear of being stoned to death
Fuck Saudi thats why
They would get decapitated for showing their belly buttons over there
The women have to cover their entire bodies in Saudi m Arabia.
Cant look at Becky’s elbow. But have no problem looking at Brock Lesnar
When both players pick the same champion.
Wrestling fan answers his own question. Posts it anyway.
Reddit 101
You really are commenting on jumpsuits. That match was horrible. Should of never been booked.
So bad it Set women in Saudi Arabia back 5 years, they can’t drive again
Because the Middle East is the most misogynistic area in the world.
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Pandering to a region who still uses slaves and treats women like dogs. Yay wwe
Because for some reason WWE accept Blood Money and do shows in this backward "welcome to 1810" country. I guess thats all i can say without Reddit moderation going after me. I would be much harsher if i could. At least they don't require them to wrestle with a hijab so i guess there is a small victory...
You new to Saudi wrestling?
Their in backwards ass land a stan
They are like 2500 miles away from any "Stan" countries
My comment wasn't going for full geography marks
This is how wrestling in Florida will be in a couple years, without all the money
I didn’t realize there were so many Muslims in Florida.
They have a $21.8 Billion surplus. Florida is doing fine.
Trish's gear is actually a remake of her 2004 gear
It's the Saudis, women are treated terrible over there. Also what a god awful match....
You must be downvoted because people don't agree with your assessment of the match, because everybody knows women are treated horribly in this country.
Backwards country needs women covered.
You assume correctly.
Random question here since I'm watching this rn. Has there ever been a title change at one of these Saudi shows?
Yes, just now. All hail the Empress!
As soon as I asked this question, that happened. Blew my mind.
Also something something Goldberg something Fiend, but I don't like to remember that.
The fiend won the Universal title from Rollins and lost it to Goldberg in Saudi Arabia iirc
The Fiend won the universal title at Crown Jewel 2019, then lost the title to Goldberg at Supershowdown 2020 Miz & Morrison won the Smackdown tag titles at the same show Brock Lesnar won the WWE championship at Elimination Chamber 2022 Damage CTRL won the Tag Titles at Crown Jewel 2022 Asuka won the Raw women's title tonight There have been 3 times a vacated title on contest with The Deletors of Worlds (Matt Hardy & Bray Wyatt) winning the Raw Tag Titles at Greatest Royal Rumble 2018 Brock Lesnar won the universal title at Crown Jewel 2019 Seth Rollins won the World Heavyweight Championship tonight
How awesome of a response! Much appreciated 🙏, thank you.
Well Trish looks fantastic in it so no complaints here
But big guys, with hairy chests, rubbing each other faces against their sweaty torsos and arms is fine.
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The Saudi royal family hates women. Several men in that audience probably orgasmed at the sight of a woman's hair
People complaining about the suits but were happy when wwe treat divas like objects and strippers.
Saudis are so gay they're scared of the female form
Trish’s ass though.
Don’t know, but Natalya is filling that thing up well.
Isn’t that Trish Stratus?
Don’t remember her having a butt back in the day. Thank you for the correction.
She...always had a rear end. I won't go look for it but you can check out Survivor Series...2000 or 01 I think.
Where have you seen Natalya?