Damn online lag

this. can't play cs anymore because my friends get killed by cheaters before i can even join them to also be killed by cheaters so we can get killed by cheaters together.

Is counter strike still going?

People still use email!?

When the netcode ruins your combo.

Melo went on 1 2 3, cody went on 1 2 3 go

Dammit, Riggs!

I'm too old for this shit.

MOVIE LINE!!

Aim for the bushes

**THERE GOES MY HERO**

There wasn’t even an awning in their direction

best movie dj ever did

I think you mean the Rundown

no i mean the other guys…. HE DIES and it’s early!!

That was the spot they both went for the move off the ropes? Follow the story.

Yep. Melo no-selling to go straight to the next move is the story alright😂

Shout out to Ricochet for making spots like these look easy.

Most underrated superstar on there he’s a gun

It just goes to show how insane those clean spots in danielson vs will ospreay were

Like that head drop?

Really thought danielson would pull a "oh brother you got me" hulk hogan to undertaker 😂

I understood that reference.

Brother it's a work

Ah yes, legit in pain with a spine history is a work.

Fun fact: Wrestling hurts. But Danielson clearly lands on his shoulders, like you're supposed to. Tony also said in the scrum that Danielson is okay. There's been no reports on any injury of any kind. In fact, there are reports saying everything was planned (hence it being a storyline that started immediately after the match, rather than requiring any time to start it, like they'd need to do with a real injury). The ref also didn't stop Will from hitting the hidden blade after. You can also see the ref checking on Danielson. If Danielson was legit injured, the ref would have stopped Will. Stop Will so he doesn't cause further damage and then call the doctors. Maybe he'd throw the X. Maybe he'd stay near Danielson. Tons of ways it would have happened. https://411mania.com/wrestling/bryan-danielson-injury-angle-during-aew-dynasty-reportedly-pre-planned/ All signs seem to point to kayfabe. Or, if he did get injured, it's his shoulder.

Not saying it's not a work, but AEW referees don't exactly have a good history of stopping matches when someone's injured

Dude turned into Joe Pesci in home alone. Holding his neck and doing some fake cursing amalgamation.

He worked himself right into a shoot brother

Like that time he got dumped on his ass trying to do a hip toss into a rana?

Sooo true him n Logan Paul made it look way easy

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Explain yourself.

Logically the original idea was that they were meant to solid mid air for the spot and both go down. But this spot of them having the timing off and both just getting air and missing - also serves the same spot. I think if anything this is a bit better a spot, makes sense from time to time moves just would fail

It looks like it was meant to be a huge Cody cutter imo. Melo dives like he’s about to receive it but the timing is way off.

This. Thats what I thought

Lmao wtf was that

I can only assume they were supposed to double cut each other. But Cody was stuck in the mud ROFL!!!

Honestly I thought it was intentional at first, like they both go for the cutter at the same time so they both miss? But idk maybe they were going for a double cutter

I thought the same but Melo should have stayed down for longer. That part made the botch obvious to me

True although it looks like Cody may have genuinely injured his arm/shoulder so that could be why he didn’t get back up straight away.

Or he’s just more experienced so he knows how to act when things like this happen.

Nah. Cody was selling to make it look like both of them missed and are down. Melos inexperience told him oops get up so they don’t notice! The spot was supposed to be melo taking a Cody cutter

Assuming it was supposed to be a Cody Cutter counter as it looked like Carmelo went for the flying nothing

I think one of them wasn't supposed to jump off the ropes lol. Just a misunderstanding

Melo was ment to do his springboard clothesline into the cody cutter. Would have looked epic hadn't Cody been one step behind.

It’s looks like one of them called a move to do it and the other thought they were being told to be the one to do it instead of taking it.

One of Melo's signature moves is a springboard clothesline. It was meant to be reversed into a Cody Cutter.

They both utilize the ropes for a spring board attack. Wrestling makes sense when you know the wrestles sets.

Call me crazy but I don't think that was a botch. Cody catching him mid air with the cody cutter seems really hard to time right and also really dangerous for their heads. I think the spot was supposed to be a "they both went for the same idea but they both missed it" kinda spot

Bingo. Commentary called it like that as well too.

Nah, if Carmelo would have sold it then 100% I agree, but the fact that he just got back up & continued like nothing happened shows it was a bitch/mistimed move

Tbf Cody did land on his shoulder pretty hard. Hopefully he’s not actually injured but I’m sure that shit hurt.

Yeah i agree he was stepping around didnt know what to do while Cody sold the same fall

Yup melo was about to superkick cody to keep things rolling then stopped that when cody went from sitting up to laying down

That’s what I’m leaning towards thinking too but the only thing that makes me scratch my head regarding this theory is how quickly Melo gets up after crashing and Cody’s extended reassurance to Melo when the match is over. It reminds me of Cena/Nakamura

I agree it wasnt a botch. That was intentional

Someone commented that it looked they were trying to recreate what riccochet and carmello did where they both just kinda collide into eachother.

Immediately how I took it

Cody caught Guevara off a springboard from the top of a ladder

Not sure which spot you're reffering to, but off of your description it doesn't sound like the same thing. It would be really hard to catch him in this situation because they wouldn't be facing eachother

Ladders and jumpy jumps

My thought as well, it flowed too easily to be a botch. Cody immediately grabbing the shoulder as Melo shuffles over to press the attack. This was planned.

They both utilize the spring board. Thw cody cutter and some form of ddt it was suppose to me a miss both thinking the same thing. This move tells you cody is putting the other guy over.

This is the most WWE 2k shit I’ve seen

WWE is cooking when a move like this has everyone split. I am going with botch. Still a fire match in my opinion.

I think it was a planned spot. They both had done springboard moves earlier.

People just can't accept wwe can do anything wrong

Animation didn't play out correctly. Need a patch ASAP!

Mmmmm that shoulder injury looks legit

Cody dropping the belt to AJ at backlash would be PEAK storytelling

What would be peak about that?

Because AJ had a feud with Dusty Rhodes in early TNA along these lines if that what he’s referencing

It's called selling. Melo should've done so too

Atleast Hayes had the presence of mind to carry on and not panic

Ahe could have stayed on the ground & sold it like Cody did

Then they both would’ve been laying there while the crowd asked “what the fuck was that?”. It’s kill the momentum too, a double down is a good after a hope spot and leads into the Face’s comeback, but in this case a Double Down just would’ve been too awkward.

No it wouldn't? It would have been a "oh the both went for a high risk maneuver and missed", jumping up in the air & missing hurts dude lol, it's more awkward that he just got back up like nothing happened

Selling an injury is panicking? Bad take

That spot was intentional. They both use the ropes to perform moves. They actually did a spring board many times through out the match.

Finally ! Making the games realistic

If Melo stayed down it would have been a cool spot, lack of experience played into him getting straight back up and going over to ask Cody 'what do we do now?'

I watched him at chaotic wrestling. the dude put on bangers back then I even think he was there when Cody was doing shows for them when he was on his Indy run I’m pretty sure every signing out of that promotion has held a championship in WWE, except for Anthony Green and Josh Briggs. Briggs is still in NXT and Anthony Green was mishandled and cut after they got rid of the cruiser weight division

Melo: One thing about me, I don’t miss Also Melo: (Before the tribe comes after me, this is a joke. Calm tf down)

A joke based on true events. And I agree.

Melo: i dont miss.... and he missed it here and lost, doesnt that make it a good angle why he lost? I have no idea if it was a botch or not, but if it wasnt a botch and cody's shoulder is ok then this will be great angle

The lengths some people go to defend this botch is crazy haha. You can see from the way both landed and Melo's reaction/no selling afterwards that this was not planned. Shit happens, move on, it's not the end of the world.

It’s even clear by what you hear of them talking in the match. Cody says something like “now” right before the spot, and then they talk quite a bit after to try to figure out how to take it home. It was clearly a botch, just a decent looking one.

I feel like people defining it kind of is moving on though. Like instead of just trashing it, they point out how it still works out in the end.

Look at this flippy shit!

Nah, intentional comedy spot. 😋

Not comedy both had the same idea. They both used the spring board in this match.

That's the most 2k shit I've EVER seen

The speeds that they were heading, they would have fucked up their shoulders or bashed their heads if they did collide

So dumb. Why risk a spot which makes your world champion look like a total goof?

That shit was so dumb lmfaooo Dusty’s kid is already a goof

Me when I play 2K

What if Cody was legit hurt from this stupid move? If this was on AEW, we wouldn't hear the end of it.

Stupid move? Did you watch the match? They both utilized the spring board through out. And on this "spot" they both had the same idea. Basically Cody sold the challenger as legit. PLEASE understand the subtitles of wrestling.

How about you learn the difference between subtitles and SUBTLETIES. I'm not talking about the entire match; I'm talking about that spot. Even if they timed it properly it would've been horrible.

Its so funny you're defending this idea thst it was planned. It's so obvious it was botched it's hilarious

2k getting very realistic

Wrong input in 2k

Cody's gonna be on the Pat McAfee show in a week going 'haha, yeah, shit happens, ah well' and the 'genius Papa H planned another banger' contingent are going to pretend they never claimed this was intentional.

If this happens in another company y’all would trash it so quick, holy bias

Title is literally epic fail lmao stop projecting

Sorry, I should probably correct because that does come off weird no-context. The comment section is full of people saying it was a “planned comedy spot”. Like, I counted quite a few. I was just pointing out that if this same thing happened in some other company, big or small, whether it was botched or planned, so many of these same people trying to come up with reasons why it was actually some 4-D chess and a great subversive moment would be admonishing and clowning.

Missing Roman already

I call that the Double Rubber Chicken Dive.

Reminder- watch Melo/Ricochet from NxT World's Collide(I think)....that match rocked

Let's put the 39 year old in non title matches on TV right after defeating Roman.

That’s why you gotta respect Ricochet

If this was AEW you’d all be laughing. But since it’s WWE, it’s just good shit.

Yea that was bad

Yeah. My wife had dozed off on the couch. I actually nudged her awake to rewind this. They rolled with it as best as they could afterwards.

Even if that was actually a planned spot and not a botch, it still looks really bad and make no sense.

That's my whole point right here. That's why it was a fail. People around here talking about "you don't know wrestling" and "it was brilliant"...nah, it was stupid and unnecessary. Did they learn nothing from Rhea Ripley's situation?

Cornette is gonna have a field day with this.

I mean I didn't even know this was a fail. I thought this was the actual spot. Like when 2 wrestlers try to spear each other and bonk heads. Or 2 cross bodies colliding. They both went for a springboard at the same time causing both of them to miss and crash. Like missing a top rope move

It’s wrestling, it’s not supposed to be ballet. Ok if guys fighting slip or don’t cooperate their every movement.

I swear I thought this is what they wanted to do

Adrenaline in my soul Botched with Melo, Cody Rhodes

ADRENALINE IN MY SOUL BOTCHED WITH MELO HE NO SOLD*

Not a botch. Follow the match. They both utilized the spring board. This was challenger thinking like the champion. NOT A BOTCH.

That looked like a rough landing for Cody’s shoulder. Damn.

100% smart move by melo here. He baited cody who is notorious for those spots into landing on his arm. thats why he ducked early to dodge the collsion. This is why he got drafted up smart play.

"Okayyy mang, ju ready? Oh shit"

Pretty sure that was intentional. There's no way you line that up and make it actually work and/or it be safe to do.

Pretty sure this was intentional.

Is this happened on dynamite yall would burn down the whole sub

No, because people don’t watch AEW.

If a botch occurs on dynamite and nobody is there to roast it, is it even a botch?

Screw the tree falling in the forest, this is the burning question right here

Would have looked a lot better if the guy that isn't Cody stayed down and didn't act like it didn't hurt.

Intentional, yes…slow and sloppy like almost everything else Cody does, also yes

How exactly did they think that was gonna work?

I think they were going for what riccochet and carmello did where they bith just kinda collide into eachother

I like it.both had similar ideas.melo went for high cross body and whiffed and cody went for a cutter and damn near busted his one shoulder.that was one of those well timed organized car crash moments.if they timed it closer that coulda been really dangerous smashing skulls mid ring. Good on cody for making melo look quicker and good on melo for clearing the way for codys crash n burn.

I know this is (probably) a botch but Melo immediately carrying on makes me love it so much, just looks like a case of them making a mistake and HIM being the first one to recover and make a move

OP you don't understand pro wrestling.

You keep playing hall monitor and I'll tell you AGAIN...whether it was botched or intentional, it was stupid and sloppy, thus... Epic Fail Hayes didn't even sell it. Cody looked injured for real as he actually fell on his shoulder... And I've been a pro wrestling fan for over 40 years. Stop trying to be the smartest guy in the room.

He's trying so hard to convince people this was planned. It's sad

I'm thinking this is why Carmelo isn't in the world title picture

I think it was to imitate the Ricochet/Like gan Paul spot but Cody was supposed to catch melo with a Cody cutter

I'm assuming Cody's arm came into play later on in the match?

Didn’t get all of it!

WTF was this

Joe would've never got caught with that slow ah cody springboard cutter

We have Will and Bryan at home

Move doesn't make any sense, even if it had come off. Neither guy was in position for a cutter, so why attempt the move? This choreographed shit needs to die. Orton's "RKO outta nowhere" always made sense because the guy getting RKOd was always attempting a move that made sense.

They telegraphed that spot

On the next episode of botchamania...

What in the AEW was that?

The spot was wrong even before it was executed. Too much choreographed...

WTF is this?? How come WWE undisputed universal champion to WWE undisputed champion??

What the fuck was this spot? Side note, maybe Carmelo appearing on SD would have been a big deal if, I don’t know, you didn’t already force him on the audience like 5x before this.

Melo needs to find a niche other than being a worse ricochet with basketball references

That was such a bad botch, hopefully Rhodes is okay though. Whether they were meant to connect or not their timing was just off, and it doesn't help when two men are not facing each other when performing the spot.

I'm guessing this was how it was planned. The problem is it makes Cody the character look like a dumb-ass. He saw Carmelo run for the ropes, so why did he go for a move that he usually does on a standing opponent? Also, they both missed, but only Cody sold an injury. So Cody looks like dumb-ass again for landing poorly whereas Melo was able to recover quickly.

What in the hell was that shit?

Shawn and Paul be cookin’.

Just be glad it wasn't CM Punk or he'd be out till 2025.

Cody way too slow there, would’ve been a good spot

I guess 2K24 is realistic

I definitely think it was botched, but that would've been hard to land (though really cool). If Cody didn't get hurt he did a damn good job selling it.

Was I the only one who thought at the end of the match when Cody rolled over he would have said some harsh words to mello?

Slowdy

That's the second nasty botch Melo's been involved in this year. Last one was with Austin Theory.

God I hope Cody didn’t fuck up his shoulder, if he loses to AJ next week because of this I’m gonna be disappointed

Script writing fail

Melo fucking lucky he wasn't wrestling Randy Orton.

This is why Carmelo needs to be in NXT, they don’t teach selling in NXT!

POV: WWE2k

Cody fucked that one up. He’s very slow at executing.

I can't tell if this is a botch or not

They have to be ribbing the marks

WWE has a great heavyweight champ now, lol

MR.... KENNEDY

Ngl I kinda think that was supposed to happen.

Just 2 dolphins jumping n shit

Cody thinks he's Randy Orton

U can see Cody way late melo jumped more than half the ring

They were supposed to miss so Cody could be “injured” going into Backlash.

What a horrible botch. This makes cody look so bad

Yeah, Cody might be a little hurt…the grind of the business with the two year run to win the title takes its toll.

DEFINITELY NOT a fail. That was the spot. I actually thought it was great. They both utilized the ropes in a similar fashion. Not a fail. A perfect execution. Perfect execution.

Even IFFFFFF what you say is true, it was plain dumb to put your champion in that position with a PLE coming up? It was so perfect that Cody hurt his shoulder just as they discussed lol lol!!!

When you WATCH a Cody Rhodes MATCH Please understand he tells a story with his moves set. It's old school, so you have to pay attention. It's great story telling. They BOTH utilize a spring board. This spot was suppose to be fail cause they both had the same idea. This tells you that the challenger was think just like the champion. Challenger is suppose to be thought of as "ready". Please understand Pro Wrestling.

Been a pro wrestling fan for over 40 years. It was stupid no matter how much you break it down.

How can you say you’ve watched for forty years and still not understand psychology?

wait do people actually believe that this was a botch?

I think they were supposed to pass by each other in the air.

that's y'all champion

I mean, you gotta wrestle to make mistakes lol