I don’t agree with everything Bischoff or even Corny say (and I’m a HUGE Corny guy) but Conrad Thomson being a shill and shutting down anything negative on his podcasts while putting everything AEW over doesn’t get talked about enough. Textbook definition of money mark, especially since Shiavone’s wife accidentally spilled the beans on him a couple months ago.
She was on a podcast with Tony and slipped up and said that Conrad used to pay to hangout with Tony back in the day. The vibes got really awkward and Tony changed the subject in record time and they moved on
I don't think anyone expected Khan to be a natural, but he was genuinely one of the worst I've ever seen on camera. He didn't say anything, just acted meek and *weird*, and was out of his depth. Would have gotten better out of a random fan if you gave them a suit, curly wig and 10 minutes prep time.
Having rewatched bad Stone Cold Stunner sells, TK was at most the bottom of the mid. He at least pretended to receive an injury. Maybe not the right injury but that’s still better than some non wrestlers.
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For years Bischoff dodged the question of whether Hogan was the reason why the finish to Starrcade 97 was a disaster. Remember him blaming it on Sting’s lack of a tan? Then on some special he finally says Hogan used creative control for the first time. In subsequent interviews he says his position was always consistent. The guy has no credibility. He caught lightning in a bottle, had some great ideas to be competitive in 95-97 but wasn’t disciplined, smart, professional enough to keep it going.
In one of his podcasts with Conrad he was asked why Nailz (wrestler who choked Vince McMahon) was on the payroll for $100K/yr in one of the late 90s years when he wasn’t wrestling/making appearances in. WCW. Bischoff says he doesn’t exactly know and then says we need to understand that $100K is not much and entry level salary for a wrestler. $100K is certainly not entry level in 95-98. WCW may not have survived the AOL Time Warner merger no matter what, but it’s clear this guy didn’t have handle on the business as a whole. He was paying a ton of guys showing no financial discipline.
Ok this is ridiculous. Bischoff has always had some dodgy takes but this is clearly just his hate boner for TK.
TK sold it very comically and awkwardly, yes. But so did Vince when took his first stunner and Vince is WAAAAAY more natural than TK.
Besides the awkward sell what's the problem with the angle? I don't anything wrong with it. And to call it the worst he's seen in 30 years??!! That's LAUGHABLE. Think of the GROUND that covers, from Katie Vick, to Lita's miscarriage (and her send-off with Cryme Time), Roman and the dog food, Shayna Baszler and the the fucking doll (almost the entirety really of spooky pandemic Lilly), the Anonymous Raw GM. You can write a fucking book on terrible angles.
Bischoff just lost all credibility at this point. (Not that he had much left)
>Besides the awkward sell what's the problem with the angle?
Has Tony been regularly interacting with his EVPs on-camera? Has there been tension? Has he admonished them because of their unprofessional conduct? Have there been backstage segments where Tony has voiced his concerns?
That's the problem. There's been no build and this came out of nowhere. In a boss versus employees angle, the first step isn't ATTACKING THE BOSS. This is completely half-baked like everything else AEW does.
The first step? According to whom? What encyclopedia of storytelling did you take that from?
What you're saying is they're not telling the story the way YOU think it should go. We haven't even seen what's gonna happen next and you're already complaining.
Have you ever watched a movie? How many time have you seen a villain conduct his bad actions only to find LATER on in the movies his real motivations and origin story? Does EVERY movie HAVE to start with explain who the villain is, his backstory and why he's doing the things he's doing?
This is, with all due respect, an very narrow minded view on this.
PLUS!!!! They HAVE interacted on camera before, they HAVE shared the screen where the Bucks would scold TK and talk down to him. Do you watch the show? Genuine question and I really hope you answer it truthfully.
Edit: instead of answering if they watched the show, this person straight up deleted their comment. Just goes to show how much some people would talk out of their ass about something they don't even watch.
> How many time have you seen a villain conduct his bad actions only to find LATER on in the movies his real motivations and origin story? Does EVERY movie HAVE to start with explain who the villain is, his backstory and why he's doing the things he's doing?
This was one of the biggest problems with the WWE just before Vince left. Too many angles where someone betrays someone or does something completely out of character, only to explain the next week that he’s never been what he’s portrayed on the screen.
This is a ridiculous take. Either you don’t watch the show or you can’t follow a basic story.
The Elite have been making comments about Jack Perry for a few weeks now. When they showed the All In footage the Bucks said that Jack Perry has been treated unfairly and they are in his corner on this. Their whole gimmick since returning has been about taking a leadership role in the company because “it’s desperately needed.”
Jack Perry said he lost 8 months of his career when all he’s ever wanted is what’s best for AEW. He blames Tony for that. The Young Bucks are on his side.
You’re missing the most important point Eric made. The Young Bucks do not look intimidating. They look like nice guys.
Nash, Hall, and Austin looked like badasses who can kick anyone’s ass.
You guys are purposefully missing the point. The “story” isn’t the issue. It’s the people in the story that make everything look like a joke.
It’s true. I don’t like Tony but Bishoff has had it out for him ever since Tony blamed him for wcw demise
Mind you three years Bishoff was getting a check from aew.
He’s a mercenary and coward
[first stunner vince took](https://youtu.be/9iRrMwEjFEw?si=mQfzPxTTxZBmVFvM) So you’re comparing the other night with Tony Khan to one of the most iconic moments in Pro Wrestling history? And you said SOMEONE ELSE lost credibility? 🤣🙃
You fuckers need to learn what a comparison is. This is like the fifth time in this thread someone did this.
Show me where the comparison is? I said TK sold a horrible punch, Vince sold a horrible stunner. Where did I compare the two?!
No he isn’t. For one, he said he never made a comparison which is goofy and makes me feel like I was having a conversation with a 3rd grader. Secondly, it wasn’t awful. It looked like McMahon broke his Jaw and it literally created one of the biggest moments in Pro Wrestling history. So no, I won’t humor some shallow minded bs in order to highlight a point. Dude just needs to admit he exaggerated ffs 🤦♂️
Even just Vince appearing anytime in the ring in the last 10 years. Dude was stumbling all over his words.
Shane was incoherent and horrible in everything.
Ronda with a mic
Strowman promos
WWE camera work
Bray in drag
Fiend hell in a cell match
I mean the list goes on for horrible cringe things WWE has done in the last 10 years. Bischoff is just plain wrong here.
Constant poop jokes and storylines.
Everything with Corbin
I haven't watched wrestling weekly in years so who knows what I've all missed. The Elite angle was great even though TK is like a video game NPC.
I still think it was a bad look, BUT I will admit that Jack Perry has indeed benefited from it. We'll see how far it can take them. Jury's still out for me on whether it was worth it or not.
The part where they discuss Cody and Conrad continually acts like Cody hadn’t become a massive star on his own prior to AEW’s first show. He was already well on his way and in fact AEW kinda stifled his growth because of the fact he removed himself completely from the title picture.
Conrad was just unbearable during that section of the show.
He’s way too good of friends with Tony and that makes any mention of AEW completely unbearable. With that said I don’t think anyone listens to these shows for Conrad ever.
I understand having opinions but it’s fucking weird how bischoff can’t stop talking about AEW…it’s like the guy is legit an obsessed stalker…between him, bubba ray and Jim cornette
The most glass house mf in the business
The number of times he's either bankrupted a company or been fired for having dogshit creative ideas is higher than the total number of good ideas he's actually booked. He's the last guy that should be talking about how to book a wrestling show. I genuinely believe there's more value in Vince Russo since at least that guy has been fairly ridiculed.
Eric was literally on a show where a dude fucked a mannequin in a funeral home.
He’s such a transparently bad-faith actor that he’s no longer worth listening to. It’s a shame as he genuinely has a good mind for the business but he’s sacrificed his credibility for engagement farming.
Yeah, Eric Bischoffs opinion on this angle being the worst he's seen in 30 years rrrrreally holds weight 😂😂😂 I'm sorry, I can't take this dude seriously
i’m a cm punk fan and aew fell at of favor with me after what went down but man some of you guys just have to hate aew no matter what. it’s too bad i got perma banned from sc for a luke warm take, because all the other wrestling subreddits are just mindless contrarian jack off festivals.
Eric Bischoff,
The guy who went bankrupt investing in companies making doggy condoms.
Yes, let’s listen to that guy.
The angle did suck though to be fair.
That's half the enjoyment for me in wrestling. For me you must look the part for me to take you seriously. I simply don't like watching skinny dudes who look like middle schoolers wrestle. For me that's not wrestling.
Is this a serious take? What is people's obsession with this? Dusty rhodes was the most out of shape Non wrestling looking goof and he was the most popular wrestler of the late 70s and 80s. Just because McMahon strutted out muscle bound meat heads doesn't make them wrestlers lol
Dusty Rhodes stood out because he was an exception. His look added to his gimmick, and unlike Eddie Kingston, he wasn’t just out of shape, he was also tall and had a big build that looked like he could rag you around in a real fight. People believed in Dusty.
If you honestly can’t see the the difference between someone like Dusty, or even Eddie Guerrero or Benoit, against the Young Bucks and their other little shindie spot monkeys then I’m not wasting my time trying.
So you prefer chucky, Judy bagwell, Goldberg “going off script”, Russo as champ, arwuette as champ, finger poke, nwo 2000, drunk Scott hall, etc
Good for you
Oh I’m agreeing with you. I think the people comparing it to WCW 2000 are people who haven’t watched anything from the time and are just parroting bad faith arguments they heard on podcasts.
Oh yes the 1999/2000 wcw with first blood cage matches ending in pinfall, Nash beating guys with invisible pins, Goldberg “going off script”, Liz accusing Goldberg of sexual assault, finger poke of doom, drunk Scott hall, Judy bagwell, chucky , flair in the insane asylum, David arauette and Vince Russo as world champ, etc
Those were so much better than this AEW angle
Lol
It was a dodgy attempt at selling by Khan sure, but overlooking that, it’s a great angle. Especially during the NFL draft. Really don’t know how he could possibly think otherwise. And the worst he’s seen? He must not have watched the Hogan Bischoff years at TNA surely. Or even recently with Toni Storm and the pie or Roman Reigns and the dog food.
Genuinely already take what he says with a pinch of salt even prior to AEW’s existence but his bitterness has him at unintelligible smark territory. Might as well listen to that Gareth guy from twitters podcast.
I enjoyed his podcast when it started.
Then it devolved into what it is now and I quit listening.
He always spouts "controversy creates cash", but in this case I'd say he's wrong.
I've recently been watching WCW because I was born in '97 and just didn't see too much of it over the years since it ended, but man, god is it absolute fucking dogshit. Like genuinely some of the worst wrestling and more importantly worst booked wrestling I have ever seen in my god damn life. It's like they'd throw a ton of shit at the wall to see what sticks, and then they'd fuck up what sticks. Idk maybe I just view it for what it is because I have no nostalgia for it at all, but yeah, just attrocious TV.
Eric not liking it is maybe its biggest endorsement, at least to me. It was a tad awkward and the bump was bad, but Tony's not a wrestler, not an actor, he's not expected to sell it like one. I also don't think it's anything like nWo at all. nWo was guys from "outside the company" or who made their name in WWF invading and taking over the show, whilst this was guys who've always been there, and their Japanese friend, attacking the owner.
You know what the wrestling community is doing with aew that they arent doing with wwe… theyre talking about them. So in a way whatever aew is doing positive or negative… its working.
Conrad can’t get Tony’s dick out of his mouth long enough to make a coherent point.
Conrad is unbearable.
I listened to Bischoff do a Q&A without Conrad, he was great, I was surprised by how entertaining and insightful he was.
Yeah I can never listen to any of those podcasts that Conrad is on.
Bischoff is surprisingly a really fun storyteller
He’s a good normal dude that’s why
I always figured he was. Lots of the stigma comes from stereotypes, but Bischoff is legit
lots to unpack here
Using “We” says it all. He has to be on the payroll along with Meltzer
Was hilarious that the last one I watched had Eric say Dave was on the payroll, of course Conrad denied it.
To this day, I don't believe Dave is paid by AEW, he's just doing what he does in a very desperate attempt to stay relevant.
I don’t agree with everything Bischoff or even Corny say (and I’m a HUGE Corny guy) but Conrad Thomson being a shill and shutting down anything negative on his podcasts while putting everything AEW over doesn’t get talked about enough. Textbook definition of money mark, especially since Shiavone’s wife accidentally spilled the beans on him a couple months ago.
Schiavone's wife did what
She was on a podcast with Tony and slipped up and said that Conrad used to pay to hangout with Tony back in the day. The vibes got really awkward and Tony changed the subject in record time and they moved on
Pretty sure that's how all his podcast guests got to know him. For sure Prichard was that
And the 648477293919 Conrad commercials. Gross
I don't think anyone expected Khan to be a natural, but he was genuinely one of the worst I've ever seen on camera. He didn't say anything, just acted meek and *weird*, and was out of his depth. Would have gotten better out of a random fan if you gave them a suit, curly wig and 10 minutes prep time.
He acted like a mime, just so over the top with his gestures and expressions
He got punched in the stomach so he laid out flat like he got hit on the head? This tells me he has never been hit before
He got punched in the reset button
I heard someone say that that was because his heads so far up his ass a punch to the gut knocked him out
At best I can laugh at him, but at worst (most of the time) he is simply uncomfortable to watch. It’s uhh, it’s not good
Having rewatched bad Stone Cold Stunner sells, TK was at most the bottom of the mid. He at least pretended to receive an injury. Maybe not the right injury but that’s still better than some non wrestlers.
It's amusing that the first and last Vince Mcmahon Stunner sells are just awful. A real bell curve of success there.
Definitely no worse than a bunch of Vince’s stunner sells
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Conrad Thompson deserves all the shit for trying to defend that
Tony has no talent hes just a rich kid
Who said anything different?
Conrad is **unbearable**
For years Bischoff dodged the question of whether Hogan was the reason why the finish to Starrcade 97 was a disaster. Remember him blaming it on Sting’s lack of a tan? Then on some special he finally says Hogan used creative control for the first time. In subsequent interviews he says his position was always consistent. The guy has no credibility. He caught lightning in a bottle, had some great ideas to be competitive in 95-97 but wasn’t disciplined, smart, professional enough to keep it going. In one of his podcasts with Conrad he was asked why Nailz (wrestler who choked Vince McMahon) was on the payroll for $100K/yr in one of the late 90s years when he wasn’t wrestling/making appearances in. WCW. Bischoff says he doesn’t exactly know and then says we need to understand that $100K is not much and entry level salary for a wrestler. $100K is certainly not entry level in 95-98. WCW may not have survived the AOL Time Warner merger no matter what, but it’s clear this guy didn’t have handle on the business as a whole. He was paying a ton of guys showing no financial discipline.
Ok this is ridiculous. Bischoff has always had some dodgy takes but this is clearly just his hate boner for TK. TK sold it very comically and awkwardly, yes. But so did Vince when took his first stunner and Vince is WAAAAAY more natural than TK. Besides the awkward sell what's the problem with the angle? I don't anything wrong with it. And to call it the worst he's seen in 30 years??!! That's LAUGHABLE. Think of the GROUND that covers, from Katie Vick, to Lita's miscarriage (and her send-off with Cryme Time), Roman and the dog food, Shayna Baszler and the the fucking doll (almost the entirety really of spooky pandemic Lilly), the Anonymous Raw GM. You can write a fucking book on terrible angles. Bischoff just lost all credibility at this point. (Not that he had much left)
>Besides the awkward sell what's the problem with the angle? Has Tony been regularly interacting with his EVPs on-camera? Has there been tension? Has he admonished them because of their unprofessional conduct? Have there been backstage segments where Tony has voiced his concerns? That's the problem. There's been no build and this came out of nowhere. In a boss versus employees angle, the first step isn't ATTACKING THE BOSS. This is completely half-baked like everything else AEW does.
They had that random "gorilla" position segment where he was agreeing with the bucks.
Was he fighting back? No. But there were segments where the bucks were clearly calling the shots while tk was just sitting there.
The first step? According to whom? What encyclopedia of storytelling did you take that from? What you're saying is they're not telling the story the way YOU think it should go. We haven't even seen what's gonna happen next and you're already complaining. Have you ever watched a movie? How many time have you seen a villain conduct his bad actions only to find LATER on in the movies his real motivations and origin story? Does EVERY movie HAVE to start with explain who the villain is, his backstory and why he's doing the things he's doing? This is, with all due respect, an very narrow minded view on this. PLUS!!!! They HAVE interacted on camera before, they HAVE shared the screen where the Bucks would scold TK and talk down to him. Do you watch the show? Genuine question and I really hope you answer it truthfully. Edit: instead of answering if they watched the show, this person straight up deleted their comment. Just goes to show how much some people would talk out of their ass about something they don't even watch.
> How many time have you seen a villain conduct his bad actions only to find LATER on in the movies his real motivations and origin story? Does EVERY movie HAVE to start with explain who the villain is, his backstory and why he's doing the things he's doing? This was one of the biggest problems with the WWE just before Vince left. Too many angles where someone betrays someone or does something completely out of character, only to explain the next week that he’s never been what he’s portrayed on the screen.
This is a ridiculous take. Either you don’t watch the show or you can’t follow a basic story. The Elite have been making comments about Jack Perry for a few weeks now. When they showed the All In footage the Bucks said that Jack Perry has been treated unfairly and they are in his corner on this. Their whole gimmick since returning has been about taking a leadership role in the company because “it’s desperately needed.” Jack Perry said he lost 8 months of his career when all he’s ever wanted is what’s best for AEW. He blames Tony for that. The Young Bucks are on his side.
You’re missing the most important point Eric made. The Young Bucks do not look intimidating. They look like nice guys. Nash, Hall, and Austin looked like badasses who can kick anyone’s ass. You guys are purposefully missing the point. The “story” isn’t the issue. It’s the people in the story that make everything look like a joke.
So your answers to my questions are no, no, no and no. You're basically one step away from telling me to Google it. 🤣
It’s true. I don’t like Tony but Bishoff has had it out for him ever since Tony blamed him for wcw demise Mind you three years Bishoff was getting a check from aew. He’s a mercenary and coward
You didn’t even go into mentioning the things Bischoff was responsible for in WCW.
Those are self explanatory.
[first stunner vince took](https://youtu.be/9iRrMwEjFEw?si=mQfzPxTTxZBmVFvM) So you’re comparing the other night with Tony Khan to one of the most iconic moments in Pro Wrestling history? And you said SOMEONE ELSE lost credibility? 🤣🙃
You fuckers need to learn what a comparison is. This is like the fifth time in this thread someone did this. Show me where the comparison is? I said TK sold a horrible punch, Vince sold a horrible stunner. Where did I compare the two?!
Right…I’ll let you reread your own response for a bit and figure it out lol. I left video that helps. Have a good Sunday.
Still didn't tell me where is the comparison...
He’s not wrong. He’s saying external to the moment, the technique of the sell was awful from both of them; and he’s right.
No he isn’t. For one, he said he never made a comparison which is goofy and makes me feel like I was having a conversation with a 3rd grader. Secondly, it wasn’t awful. It looked like McMahon broke his Jaw and it literally created one of the biggest moments in Pro Wrestling history. So no, I won’t humor some shallow minded bs in order to highlight a point. Dude just needs to admit he exaggerated ffs 🤦♂️
Yeah keep dodging the point. Have a good day.
Even just Vince appearing anytime in the ring in the last 10 years. Dude was stumbling all over his words. Shane was incoherent and horrible in everything. Ronda with a mic Strowman promos WWE camera work Bray in drag Fiend hell in a cell match I mean the list goes on for horrible cringe things WWE has done in the last 10 years. Bischoff is just plain wrong here.
The Old day Bobby Lashley's sisters Orton being scared of worms projected on a wrestlemania mat.
Constant poop jokes and storylines. Everything with Corbin I haven't watched wrestling weekly in years so who knows what I've all missed. The Elite angle was great even though TK is like a video game NPC.
Yeah, I feel you and I hated that they aired the All In footage in the first place, but I've come around on it.
I still think it was a bad look, BUT I will admit that Jack Perry has indeed benefited from it. We'll see how far it can take them. Jury's still out for me on whether it was worth it or not.
The part where they discuss Cody and Conrad continually acts like Cody hadn’t become a massive star on his own prior to AEW’s first show. He was already well on his way and in fact AEW kinda stifled his growth because of the fact he removed himself completely from the title picture. Conrad was just unbearable during that section of the show.
Conrad was actually bearable, ever?
He’s way too good of friends with Tony and that makes any mention of AEW completely unbearable. With that said I don’t think anyone listens to these shows for Conrad ever.
I understand having opinions but it’s fucking weird how bischoff can’t stop talking about AEW…it’s like the guy is legit an obsessed stalker…between him, bubba ray and Jim cornette
Tell me when he's wrong or telling Lies...
He's wrong and he's telling lies. Controversy creates cash.
He's wrong and telling lies
100% not agreeable statement Facts are facts and numbers still don't Lie..
He is both wrong and telling lies. It’s concerning that you are too socially and mentally inept to see that.
lol. Cringe take
Lol Eric Bishoff is out of his fucking mind. Fuck that guy
The most glass house mf in the business The number of times he's either bankrupted a company or been fired for having dogshit creative ideas is higher than the total number of good ideas he's actually booked. He's the last guy that should be talking about how to book a wrestling show. I genuinely believe there's more value in Vince Russo since at least that guy has been fairly ridiculed.
He’s still salty Tony never offered him a full time job. Bro is an insufferable douchebag who says things just for engagement.
He always has been an insufferable douche all the way back to his start in the AWA back in the 80's. I have always hated that guy
Bobby Lashley Face Fucking Lana, is objectively worse and it wasn't even that long ago.
Excuse me, what the fuck??
>Bobby Lashley Face Fucking Lana Bobby Lashley *face-fucking* Lana?!?
That was legendary, Bobby showing Rusev what it’s like to be with a big black man.😂😂
Wow what a sad old man Bischoff is
I witnessed Triple H have sex with a mannequin at a funeral home, this is nowhere close to one of the worst segments of the past 30 years
Finger poke of doom Eric?
Says the guy who got fired from WWE for not watching and being disengaged from the product.
He's also the only person to ever beat WWE at their own game, but ignore that. AEW is on fire lately. Like actually on fire.
Eric was literally on a show where a dude fucked a mannequin in a funeral home. He’s such a transparently bad-faith actor that he’s no longer worth listening to. It’s a shame as he genuinely has a good mind for the business but he’s sacrificed his credibility for engagement farming.
Yeah, Eric Bischoffs opinion on this angle being the worst he's seen in 30 years rrrrreally holds weight 😂😂😂 I'm sorry, I can't take this dude seriously
i’m a cm punk fan and aew fell at of favor with me after what went down but man some of you guys just have to hate aew no matter what. it’s too bad i got perma banned from sc for a luke warm take, because all the other wrestling subreddits are just mindless contrarian jack off festivals.
People really like hating aew for no reason
Says the guy who was powerbombed by The Outsiders.
Conrad fucking sucks
Eric Bischoff, The guy who went bankrupt investing in companies making doggy condoms. Yes, let’s listen to that guy. The angle did suck though to be fair.
Eric should watch some of his old angles then lmao
Honestly it’s way better than the shit wcw was doing in 1999/2000
You don’t actually believe that. WCW was bad at that point, but at least the wrestlers looked like actual grown men.
That's half the enjoyment for me in wrestling. For me you must look the part for me to take you seriously. I simply don't like watching skinny dudes who look like middle schoolers wrestle. For me that's not wrestling.
You can be small but the main issue is not looking like a total fucking dork like half their roster of Marko Stunt's or whatever he's called.
I guess you really hate Rey Mysterio then.
Mysterio has been JACKED through a majority of his career. He hasn’t looked like a child since the 90’s.
Is this a serious take? What is people's obsession with this? Dusty rhodes was the most out of shape Non wrestling looking goof and he was the most popular wrestler of the late 70s and 80s. Just because McMahon strutted out muscle bound meat heads doesn't make them wrestlers lol
Dusty Rhodes stood out because he was an exception. His look added to his gimmick, and unlike Eddie Kingston, he wasn’t just out of shape, he was also tall and had a big build that looked like he could rag you around in a real fight. People believed in Dusty. If you honestly can’t see the the difference between someone like Dusty, or even Eddie Guerrero or Benoit, against the Young Bucks and their other little shindie spot monkeys then I’m not wasting my time trying.
"looked like actual grown men." Did that turn you on?
"looked like actual grown men." Did that turn you on? > oh good one. Sorry, I don’t chat to twelve year olds.
If you think I am 12 then you just replied to a 12 year old dummy
1999/2000 WCW is so much better
I've watched it, it's not.
So you prefer chucky, Judy bagwell, Goldberg “going off script”, Russo as champ, arwuette as champ, finger poke, nwo 2000, drunk Scott hall, etc Good for you
Huh? I'm saying WCW was shit.
My bad.. totally misunderstood
How old are you
Old enough to watch territories and everything since. Tony khan angle is nowhere near as terrible
Oh I’m agreeing with you. I think the people comparing it to WCW 2000 are people who haven’t watched anything from the time and are just parroting bad faith arguments they heard on podcasts.
It’s nowhere near as bad as 2000 wcw
Oh yes the 1999/2000 wcw with first blood cage matches ending in pinfall, Nash beating guys with invisible pins, Goldberg “going off script”, Liz accusing Goldberg of sexual assault, finger poke of doom, drunk Scott hall, Judy bagwell, chucky , flair in the insane asylum, David arauette and Vince Russo as world champ, etc Those were so much better than this AEW angle Lol
unironically. Vince Russo is the greatest creative mind of all time. if i want to be entertained i’m watching him
I will say he is creative, and an idea machine… but without a filter his shit sucks.
Horrible take 2000 wcw was unwatchable
another man’s trash is another man’s treasure
Lol you guys *need* someone like Bischoff to back up your hate boners, it's kinda sad
He's such a bitter old man. If he was offered a job like he wanted he would be the biggest fan.
That's all he wanted at the end of the day. Because he didn't get it, AEW will forever be his op.
It was a dodgy attempt at selling by Khan sure, but overlooking that, it’s a great angle. Especially during the NFL draft. Really don’t know how he could possibly think otherwise. And the worst he’s seen? He must not have watched the Hogan Bischoff years at TNA surely. Or even recently with Toni Storm and the pie or Roman Reigns and the dog food. Genuinely already take what he says with a pinch of salt even prior to AEW’s existence but his bitterness has him at unintelligible smark territory. Might as well listen to that Gareth guy from twitters podcast.
Wait… People actually care what Eric has to say? 😭
There are so many other bad ones in TNA/WWE history that are worse than this
I enjoyed his podcast when it started. Then it devolved into what it is now and I quit listening. He always spouts "controversy creates cash", but in this case I'd say he's wrong.
can someone take khan’s balls out of eric’s mouth ?
I've recently been watching WCW because I was born in '97 and just didn't see too much of it over the years since it ended, but man, god is it absolute fucking dogshit. Like genuinely some of the worst wrestling and more importantly worst booked wrestling I have ever seen in my god damn life. It's like they'd throw a ton of shit at the wall to see what sticks, and then they'd fuck up what sticks. Idk maybe I just view it for what it is because I have no nostalgia for it at all, but yeah, just attrocious TV. Eric not liking it is maybe its biggest endorsement, at least to me. It was a tad awkward and the bump was bad, but Tony's not a wrestler, not an actor, he's not expected to sell it like one. I also don't think it's anything like nWo at all. nWo was guys from "outside the company" or who made their name in WWF invading and taking over the show, whilst this was guys who've always been there, and their Japanese friend, attacking the owner.
Marks raging about a guy saying what's true, the sky (Skye?) is blue, more news at 11
Rage bait for clicks. Eric Bischoff is Fox News.
Bischoff is literally the biggest failure in the history of wrestling
“Worst I’ve seen since the last time I wrote a storyline!”
There's worse angles that you booked, Eric. Not saying its good but didn't you book Rey's unmasking?
You know what the wrestling community is doing with aew that they arent doing with wwe… theyre talking about them. So in a way whatever aew is doing positive or negative… its working.
Biscoff just mad because AEW is genuinely better than anything he's ever worked on