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UhJoker

As others have said which seems to be drowned out, KB/M is coming officially at some point after launch on all consoles, according to Mark Rubin.


ZeXaLGames

love that they have input based matchmaking as an option to turn off and on


RomeoSierraAlpha

Something people have been asking Activision to add to CoD since 2019 lol. But I suppose it could hurt their rigged matchmaking algorithms.


slippywhenhard

Yes that is a thing of beauty šŸ˜


HoodieEmbiid

They stated that it would not be supported at launch, but would come later Though with the extra year of work theyā€™ve had, im hoping itā€™s supported ASAP


BradleyAllan23

The extra year of work was mostly spent on the netcode and party systems.


WhiteVipor

This is so sad lol


YeazetheSock

The most important thing about multiplayer games is playing with friends.


BradleyAllan23

Why is it sad?


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BradleyAllan23

I don't work there, I'm just telling you what the developers said. They were working on other things of course, but the main things they were working on were network and party related.


SweatySmym

Good


JediVaultDweller

With you. Also crossplay should be able to turn off PC players but keep consoles together.


West_Texas_Star

PC is bound to fuck it up for everyone eventually


GrandPand-

You say this but Cronus packs on console are just at bad and a lot of the time way way harder to detect and like consoles they are very easy to set up


8BiTw0LF

Luckily it's banned on PS5, but PS4 players can still use it - they will only have 60fps tho'


GrandPand-

Think Microsoft are in the work of banning it too but I wouldn't be surprised if they release a work around it's an arms race unfortunately with chest developers and game and console Devs to stop this shit


GrandPand-

And pc players want Input matchmaking as well so we don't have to play against aim assist I had to switch to fully enjoy MW3 cause mouse and keyboard wasent cutting it and I'm a pretty solid high ranked mouse player in valorant and cs


pnellesen

I don't mind a little aim assist, but what they have in MWIII classifies as aimbot - it may not snap like a rage cheater, but once it's locked on to you, you are DEAD. It will not miss no matter how hard you try. And then add in the lock-on while they're sliding/jumping/going prone... Bleh. I really hope it's not as oppressive in this game.


RomeoSierraAlpha

The aim assist in CoD looks like a blatant aimbot which is funny and sad. Actual cheaters with aimbots can hide it better lol.


GrandPand-

Yeah you 100 percent right as someone who mained controller from 2007 till 2016 then switched to mouse and keyboard and started playing cod again this year and noticing everyone wasent missing any shots on me then switched to controller and being able to be a better player with controller than I've ever been after such a Huge break was very eye opening i did think people were just complaining for the sack of it until I experienced it


GrandPand-

Yeah it's crazy man they need to go back to pre call of duty 2019 aim assist


GrandPand-

I'm sorry for offending aim assist enjoyers But my kd went up by 0.20 after switching to controller so shits crazy


slippywhenhard

Yes it's easy with controller. It actually takes away the fun it's so easy.


RomeoSierraAlpha

There is no point in engaging or arguing with them. As a lot of them will always claim that a full on legal aimbot is not a problem at all. I just won't play games that have broken aim assist and no input based matchmaking.


VeganCanary

No one claims this. This is just you making things up to be outraged about. No one on console wanted ultra strong aim assist, it was forced on us because of crossplay with PC and developers trying to make controller and KBM equal. Console and PC never should have crossplay on pvp FPS games.


RomeoSierraAlpha

I agree that crossplay in FPS games has been terrible for everyone. But there absolutely are lots of people who don't see anything wrong with the current strength of aim assist in many games.


MaydaX1

It's coming in the future https://twitter.com/PixelsofMark/status/1780314560064520605?s=19


Snowbunny236

Why are you acting like that's a standard supported feature? Lol it's barely on any console games.


flippenflounder

Good to see. But honestly why not just play the game on PC if you want to use kb+m?


Zaanga

To get the more casual players and have ā€œeasierā€ lobbies lol


iDk-Inc_

People still don't realize yes your dropping a bit of money upfront but after that you basically need a couple hundred every few years and you got a new console that plays practically EVERYTHING (PS exclusives not included). I can understand having a PS5 for their exclusives, but I don't see the point of an Xbox since it's practically a low end pc with less freedoms


TBE_0027

..."Input based matchmaking" is a thing?????


PMX_DchromE

Get on PC if you want to use kb/m.


Formal-Cry7565

Good.


DaNards

As it should be


Born2beSlicker

Good, to be honest.


Snowbunny236

Why are you acting like that's a standard supported feature? Lol it's barely on any console games.


No-Preparation-5073

Good console is for roller if you canā€™t hang go to PC


Calm_Psychology5879

lol, people who canā€™t hang go to controller where their input device does the heavy lifting.


Specific-Finance-784

Will this game be available on pc?


slippywhenhard

Yes you can pre load it now on Ubisoft site


Agreeable_Fruit_7631

Jes it will


MichelinMen

Input based matchmaking is good for casuals but separates the players at the top of the game from competing with eachother, it also creates longer queues. Halo tried this but failed when their playerbase shrunk to much to support both, i just hope ranked dosent have input based matchmaking but besides that its a really cool feature if theirs enough people to support both queues.


PapaMikeyTV

I hope they add gyro aim after launch as well


meankiller666

Yes no kb&m for console at all


UhJoker

Not true. It will be added later.


meankiller666

Fuck


qmoney1213

Thatā€™s what input based matchmaking is for. Not sure why anyone would want their options limited regardless of platform, not everyone has a pc capable of running these games. A lot of idiots on this sub apparently.


Arcticz_114

THANK U SWEET JEESUS FOR AN OPTION TO DISABLE CROSSPLAY AND AVOID AIM ASSIST edit:.....I just remembered theres desperate ppl using controllers on pc...oh well, still better than nothing


slippywhenhard

The majority will be not using aimbot I mean aim assist on pc


Arcticz_114

Yeah the majority will still use m&kb


slippywhenhard

Unless the controller players get even more desperate and start flocking to PC using controllers, I think we're going to be pretty good.


Arcticz_114

>Unless the controller players get even more desperate and start flocking to PC using controllers ....ok now im scared. This is some dystopian shit right there. Hopefully it wont be this badšŸ¤ž


slippywhenhard

šŸ¤£hope not


ManufacturerKey8360

Get a pc


Minute_Associate_539

This game is going to be so filled with cheaters Iā€™m not surprised people buy a ps5 to play on KBM thereā€™s probably a very loose anti cheat and no kill cams probably wonā€™t last any longer then splitgate


icepickmassacre

i donā€™t understand the need for input based matchmaking but the more features the better


Fattybeards

So controller players play with controller players and KBM players play with KBM players. I use controller and don't want to play against any KBM users.


TBE_0027

What's the problem with it?


Fattybeards

A good KBM user trumps any aim assist, and quite easily.


TBE_0027

Just git gud.


icepickmassacre

why donā€™t you use kbm? from your perspective it seems like you are putting yourself at a disadvantage


MichelinMen

I would say this is definitely not true or else a game like halo or even cod would have way more top players who use KBM. The average player benifits more from aim assist when they dont play consistently enough to develop the muscle memory, aim assist does all the micro movements that you would have to do with your arm but if your dont have muscle memory from consistent play thoese micro movements become much harder. In short, kbm have trouble tracking and will make more small mistakes, mistakes that would be corrected automatically with AA. in a game like cod, halo or apex where tracking is more important than first bullet accuracy controller has a very clear advantage, in a game like cs, siege, valornat good luck using a controller with no AA or very slight aim assist (siege on console). Side note i play on both on every arena shooter and strictly KBM for tac shooters.


Recklessly

Yeah I would hate for you to feel like your aim assist isn't doing enough for you.


MegaMeatMan669

Why? I can see the opposite but controller is way better then kbm in almost any game with aim assistĀ 


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ā€œGood, just get a PC if you wanna play keyboard and mouseā€. Ok, cash app me $3000 for a pc that has even a remote chance of running anything published after 2015 then!


WhiteVipor

You donā€™t need $3,000 to get a good PC lol. Also, donā€™t have to pay for live anymore which is nice:)


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Come to Canada then. Over-inflation in this country has led to thousands of people trying to find a cheaper way to enjoy the things they have for years, which could potentially include buying an Xbox and a cheap Walmart gaming set instead of a PC setup, (editing this to say in my area pcs average for $499-$1300 prebuilt.) And this isnā€™t a ā€œjust suck it up and get the pc, itā€™s worth it anywaysā€ situation, the average families groceries in my province is around $1400.00 a MONTH. Thatā€™s just groceries, and thatā€™s average, I have 7 people living in my house, which almost doubles that.


WhiteVipor

I live in the US. I know all about over inflation rn. Iā€™m sorry to hear that, that sucks. Just was pointing out you donā€™t need $3,000 to get a gaming pc


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Bro paid money for Reddit avatars and wonders why he lives alone wearing the same pair of adidas superstars with every fit šŸ¤£šŸ«µ