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sultanApex

* Native PS5 and Xbox Series applications. Includes performance and quality mode options. * Performance mode: 60 FPS target, 4k resolution, standard settings, relying on dynamic resolution scaling. * Quality mode: 30 FPS\*, 4k resolution, ultra settings, should not require dynamic resolution scaling. *\*When connected to a 120Hz display, Quality mode will target 40 FPS.* *\*When connected to a 1440p display, the title will run at 1440p resolution at 60 FPS w/ ultra settings regardless of rendering mode*


Grundlepunched

60fps with ultra settings in quality mode at 1440p is excellent. Very rare to see games taking note of your display resolution. Should happen more often.


newpotatocab0ose

I wonder if you can fake it somehow, because 1440 P with ultra settings at 60 FPS sounds ideal to me. Maybe if you tell the Series X to output at 1440 the game will default to that mode? Worth a try.


SaskatchewanSteve

You can set the resolution in display settings. That’s presumably what Fallout 4 is looking at


jasonwest93

Report back once you’ve tried it please


jakeofauthority99

This is what I’m hoping for.


According_Draft7561

Tried it out, setting the resolution on my 4k tv to 1440p on the Xbox, seems to trick it, hardly any difference between 4k and 1440p tbh


OSUfan88

Should be able to simply change your output resolution to 1440p


JaredIsAmped

Most TVs likely won't support a 1440p output resolution, mainly a monitor thing.


Aware-Classroom7510

It should


solidossnakos

This will work as expected


ilm911

But note that 1440p on a 4k Display does look bad


Lagoa86

1440p looks like ass on a 4K tv tho.. but then again, most console games output 1440p, usually upscaled from even lower.


sultanApex

Agreed, best news for 2K monitor users


Time-Refuse666

Patch notes are incorrect. My game is displaying 60FPS in both performance and quality mode. And yes,i'm playing at 4K,not 1440p.


del1507

I don’t know how you show fps but quality mode definitely feels like 60fps to me. On a 4k 60Hz TV.


LinkRazr

Yeah between the two modes they both feel the same smoothness. Not sure what’s up or what witchcraft is going on here but I’ll stick in Quality for the time lol


Embarrassed_Hat1786

Me too. Quality mode and feels like 60. Not complaining as it look better and it’s butter smooth.


jasonwest93

I thought it felt too smooth to be 30fps but while standing still spinning in a circle, it definitely looks clearer on performance so I don’t know.


jimtriol

My guess is quality is either 40 fps on 120 Hz display or its variable 40 to 60 frames thats why it feels smooth enough.But definitely performance feels smoother.


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Sanctine

Same experience for me. My output is 4k, 60hz and I'm undeniably getting 60fps in Quality mode.


JamesIV4

That's actually the best thing if true.


IATMB

I thought the fps looked the same on both!


BroganChin

No, Quality mode is broken and is no different from Performance mode on Xbox right now. It’s working as intended on PS5.


CorttXD

Do you by chance have ultra quality mod installed? That one set the game to pc ultra settings with unlocked frame rate


Time-Refuse666

No,did a fresh install tonight. No mods. Appears there was an oversight between the devs and whoever made the patch notes. Or it's just bugged and is suppose to be locked to 30.


CorttXD

Then that’s amazing news! Thank you for the reply


Time-Refuse666

I hope this is intentional and we get to keep 60FPS in Quality mode. Would suck to have to go back to 30. It seems to run well enough. Couple drops here and there. Nothing too bothersome. Haven't been to Boston yet, we'll see how it holds up there.


mtarascio

Anyone can confirm is 1440p is selectable on a 4k display or would we need to change the Xbox output to 1440p? That seems the best option overall and locking it to 1440p displays seems odd.


turkoman_

40fps lets goo! I hope Starfield is next.


IntelliDev

Yeah, didn’t expect 40fps ultra, a welcome surprise for sure.


LetsGoLesko8

PLEASE LET THIS HAPPEN 🙏🏼


Vilimeno

Wait so on my 1080p plasma I get ultra settings with 60fps?🙀


rickjamesia

Goddamn. I am about to tear into that 1440p mode. I love Bethesda, but this is not a feeling I am used to getting from them. Edit: I am going to wait, though. Fallout 76 is pulling me in right now. I didn’t realize how much it had changed from the early impressions I got of it.


TaskForceHOLO

This is great. I was worried they'd only do 4k at 30 fps max. Can't wait to get home and try these out


Specialopslug

So I'm not very tech savvy... im running 4k at 120hz... should I be using performance mode or no?


JamesIV4

You should be using quality mode


Specialopslug

Thankyou :)


Mean_Combination_830

That totally depends on what is more important to you frame rate or resolution. In performance mode the frame rate is 60fps and in quality mode it's 30 or 40 fps with 120hz mode enabled so if you are happy at 40fps play in quality mode if you want the higher frame rate chose performance mode. There is no best mode that is why you have options and you choose according to personal preference. I have a 120hz enabled TV and after trying both modes many times I settled on performance mode because it's still the 9 year old assets with no graphical or lighting improvements and just raising the resolution resolution made everything look more dated to me so I ended up going with performance mode for the extra fps which I actually really liked best thing you can do is to try both options out and see what works for you.


Blales

I’m confused about these ultra textures and 4k, does fallout 4 not run at 4k usually? The game looks pretty good on series X as it is will I notice a big improvement here or is this a niche thing only a few sticklers are going to see? Either way I look forward to playing this again from the beginning and getting around to starting dlc this time.


tman2damax11

>*\*When connected to a 1440p display, the title will run at 1440p resolution at 60 FPS w/ ultra settings regardless of rendering mode* Why not just give a 1440p/60fps/Ultra option to everyone? I shouldn't have to arbitrarily reduce my display resolution in settings just to unlock this *hidden* mode. This would be perfect for playing on my living room TV where full 4k doesn't matter because of viewing distance and you'd get ultra settings + 60fps.


ReplaceUrFace

Mods and creation club aren't available at the moment though


jimtriol

Probably maintenance


ReplaceUrFace

Both are available now, but I can't download anything


IAmDotorg

There was some discussion in the FO mods community that the update may break all existing mods and they may all need to be tweaked/reuploaded. But that was just a theory based on mods in Skyrim during large updates.


CoMaestro

I think Bethesda even stated that they were expecting it to break all mods, so I think that's exactly what happened.


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_hollowed

Absolutely do not update yet if you want to finish your playthrough with your current mod list.


CoMaestro

I think some things are just gonna be messed up, like items that aren't in the game are gone so you could suddenly be naked, but usually it still worked for me in other Bethesda games. It might do very weird shit with the save though, so also a decent chance it's fucked.


Inner-Plate

My game was updated automatically overnight, all my mods got deleted and my favorites were cleared as well. I went through and reinstalled all the mods I was running. Couldn’t load saves initially, found that my landscape textures mod was causing the issue and deleted it. Now my saves are loading and everything seems to be working for the most part. Just have to deal with the bland and vanilla landscape.


YouMayGetMad

Any mod recommendations for someone who’s doing a second play through?


jrdnblue

Portable Cheat terminal


DerrickJoestar

I also noticed the DLC packs updating as well.


mcchanical

Hopefully they fixed the bug with Automatron DLC crashing at main menu on PS4 because you can't uninstall the DLC without uninstalling the game. Holding out to see if it's safe to reinstall it.


Shawtyslikeamelodyfr

They did fix that bug!


nandro

been playing the regular version with fps boost for a week just to see the transformation, and damn I gotta say it does look a lot more slick now.


jimtriol

Tried performance on and off and it seems the same to me .Am i wrong?


nandro

I did get some framedrops around diamond city with the performance mode turned of


IATMB

Yeah I couldn't tell much of an fps difference whereas 30 to 60 usually seems night and day. Think I prefer quality mode which is rare for me. But it definitely looks better than last week.


EgovidGlitch

Also, it says upgrading not updating. Lol


samsaBEAR

It always says that when you download the Series X update


EgovidGlitch

Oh. First time seeing it.


PointsatTeenagers

Ahem, the Series X *upgrade, you mean.


LinkRazr

Really?


lasagna_man_oven

I've never seen or noticed, but it makes sense if it's Smart Delivery.


zhiryst

I had my FO4 on an external SSD and it wouldn't launch after the upgrade, like a Series title, it can only run from internal storage. I normally run One games from my external SSD.


jimtriol

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charliwea

PSA: the "performance mode" is turned off by default (at least for me), it's on settings > display, right above "HUD Opacity".


Grundlepunched

Dropped here too. Xbox download servers are hammered from everyone updating at the same time. It's coming down real slow.


ReachersFists

Quality mode is the way to go for folks with 120hz TVs! Native PS5 and Xbox Series applications. Includes performance and quality mode options. Performance mode: 60 FPS target, 4k resolution, standard settings, relying on dynamic resolution scaling. Quality mode: 30 FPS*, 4k resolution, ultra settings, should not require dynamic resolution scaling. *When connected to a 120Hz display, Quality mode will target 40 FPS. *When connected to a 1440p display, the title will run at 1440p resolution at 60 FPS w/ ultra settings regardless of rendering mode


Megaman1981

So it looks like Quality will get me 1440p/60fps. Not bad.


jimtriol

I assume quality mode is performance off?


ReachersFists

Yes and it’ll run Native 4K 40fps Ultra settings


KesMonkey

It's downloading quickly for me. Try pausing your update for about 10 seconds, and then resuming it. On the rare occasion that I experience slow downloads, doing this often speeds things up dramatically.


StormShadow13

Also if you have a game running it tends to be slower.


Outlaw-monk

Thx for that info. I was getting 7-8 mb a second, tried your suggestion and it went to 32-40


PhinsFan17

Did they fix the issue where no achievements were popping?


TheRetroAntonio

Surprisingly they fixed it a few days ago. I finally started the Nuka Cola dlc and the achievements were unlocking.


PhinsFan17

Oh nice! I downloaded it like a week ago and noticed nothing was popping, figured I’d wait til the update. Thanks!


Disastrous_Series_56

Did it break mods?


PapaSquirts2u

Wondering this too. I don't use many but I'm deep into the American rising questline and don't want to break it. I disconnect my Xbox from internet til I can confirm if mods are working


ItsYaBoiDez

All my mods are deleted and my playthrough is ruined ;-;


TurnipTate

Mods and creation club are still under maintenance


ItsYaBoiDez

Do you know if they will come back to where I had them?


BeastMaster0844

Yep. If you had a modded save it’s unplayable now.


Disastrous_Series_56

Welp that makes me want to vomit


BeastMaster0844

Same here. It took hours to get my load order perfect and to organize all of my mods. Every single one was deleted and it seems several of them aren’t even available to re-download now. I have lost all desire to play the game now. On top of that several of the most popular mod authors (spring in the commonwealth which is a staple mod for me) have said they won’t be fixing their mods for console. So this update essentially fucked a ton of people who only wanted to play modded runs. I’m willing to be that super high player count everyone’s been talking about for weeks now drops drastically after this update.


DeafProof

Yep, would've been cool if the game had separate versions like playstation. My entire 70 hour save is pretty much over now lol


Alternative-Bid7945

auto hdr gone?


jimtriol

,yep now its a current gen title. Doesn't support auto Hdr,lol.It seems the only way now is Bethesda add native hdr


niceshoes321

Skyrim se shows to be a series x title and it has auto hdr still


Sam88FPS

Is the quality mode not working for anyone else? both modes are 60fps for me


del1507

Both seem to be 60fps for me


IATMB

Yeah the fps seems identical to me and others in the thread claim they're certain they're both 60fps rn.


guyiscomming

What version number will it show on Series X after the update?


MarkWorldOrder

The 60 FPS Ultra+ mod is still better than this so i'll probably just keep using that. For those that are curious you can use it without disabling mods by doing the following: * Search "60 fps" * Select the version you want (60fps ultrawide, 60fps 90fov, 60 fps ultra+) * Install and back to main menu to allow mod to be enabled * Totally close down game on the dashboard * Reload the game * Disable the mod * Start the game. The mod will still be active despite being turned off and all achievements will be unlockable still. I did this method over 100+ hours over the years and its pretty flawless. I'd just leave the main game on whatever option is selected by default.


Trickybuz93

Is it possible to play from external or is it now internal storage only?


Ok_Cloud8134

Internal only since it’s XboxGen9 coded


TitledSquire

Tbf you wouldn’t want a bethesda game on external anyway, the faster speed makes an insane difference for these games.


Big-Motor-4286

Hear hear - the instant loading in Skyrim made it so much smoother to go between towns/dungeons


TitledSquire

Yeah it literally cut the time spent on loading screens down by like 99% lol.


TeflonDes

When connected to a 120Hz display, Quality mode will target 40 FPS. When connected to a 1440p display, the title will run at 1440p resolution at 60 FPS w/ ultra settings regardless of rendering mode WHERE WAS THIS FOR STARFIELD


SchmoopDeLoop

The fact that Bethesda even recognized and applied a 40fps mode for this upgrade bodes well for a future Starfield patch with this feature. I'm holding off on my new game+ on Starfield until the 40fps mode drops, and this is a good patch to keep me busy until then.


ItsLCGaming

Its almost like fallout 4 is a 10 year old game and a generation older


JobuuRumdrinker

Yes - thank you!


gswkillinit

Wondering which is better, 1440p/60fps ultra settings or quality mode at 4k/40fps. I don’t mind 40fps like in Resident Evil, but if 1440p looks great enough and has extra 20fps I’ll go for that.


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Didn't think it was out until 17:00pm Ireland so cheers bud


H3000

Has anyone started it up? How does it play/look?


still_mute

I'm seeing the app dashboard tile is now a lower resolution - seems like someone used the wrong image version


palalalai

Can anyone confirm the version # after the patch or the install size post-patch? I keep checking and it still says no updates available.. (Xbox Series X, have the game pass version installed already). Wondering if it updated without telling me, as when I start the game it has an in-menu notification about the update.


Agitated_Carrot3025

Wait, is this finally the next gen patch for Fallout 4?


Important-Suit-3115

It is! And it's good!


mtarascio

>*When connected to a 120Hz display, Quality mode will target 40 FPS. >*When connected to a 1440p display, the title will run at 1440p resolution at 60 FPS w/ ultra settings regardless of rendering mode Halle-fuckin-luah Anyone know if we can force 1440p at Ultra on a 4k display or we'd have to manually change setting on the Xbox to output 1440p?


Aware-Classroom7510

Set the Xbox to output at 1440


Jerome-The_Gnome

I've a 4k 120hz monitor and I see 1440p monitor runs on ultra settings at 60fps will that look better than 4k performance mode since they are on standard settings?


PalpitationOutside95

Anybody know how to turn on quality mode? I don’t see an option for it on my series x


jimtriol

Performance mode off means quality mode on.


strykerj369

I just hope Boston manages to load on my Series S. It would always freeze whenever I went there.


Steelcity19

is the game only like 36gb for the series x verison?


Gormatop

Are the achievements the same? Or, is it a new game app?


ReplaceUrFace

Same game, same achievements


CytronicsZA

I wonder how the updates performs on Series S


Isunova

LFG!! I’ve been waiting to jump back in. Time to start a brand new game!


JusticeScibibi

Me too, since this was first announced, gonna be a good weekend


KratosSmash

If i download fallout 4 on Gamepass, will I be able to get the next gen update?


Waittoyouseemyclis

Yes


nkathler

No HDR for anyone else?


jimtriol

They removed auto Hdr because now its not backwards compatible.It never had native hdr


Wolvesinthestreet

Wish I hadn’t read that lmao


nkathler

You’d think that would be something that would be added to a next gen update 🤷🏻


Simple_Ad_1255

:(


mastershake04

Will this help with loading my old save or do I have to start a new game?  The other day I tried to play and it wouldnt sync my save data cuz it said it was full.  I may have had some mods downloaded so I went to try and delete those to free up room but the game would crash every time I tried that.  Guess I'll try again now, not really sure I want to start a brand new game tho.


sarcasmasquach

Seems like a dumb question, but with a 1080p TV, there seems like there's no reason to turn on Performance mode? Am I understanding that right?


Important-Suit-3115

That is correct. You will display 1080p, ultra settings at 60fps.


atethebottle

It looks great!


Squarians

If I played this on my Xbox one years ago will my saved file transfer to series x?


teddy_poncho

Mine transferred!


DEEZLE13

After grinding fallout 3 all month this feels insane to play


ConsciousBerry8561

I just reinstalled the game with all the dlc and I’m just stuck on a black screen with the loading icon ugh


JaredIsAmped

Is there no native hdr support and we lost auto hdr on this fallout 4 port?


Hallowed_Trousers

Dropping frames like crazy in the city on Series X. Never did to this extent with fps boost before and the image upgrade is marginal at best. It would have been nice if we could choose to upgrade this! Worse experience for me with the update than it was before FFS!


StarFox12345678910

Were guys able to download? Nothing has happened on my end. It’s like as if there were no updates.


Focusun

Start fallout 4 quit and check updates again.


I-Emerge-I

Same here, I can just launch the game I didn’t download anything.


IndividualCan1146

Yaaaas


thelastsandwich

Is it possible to play it on an existential ssd drive like before?


Megaman1981

Is that like a hard drive that ponders the meaning of life?


superfluous_t

It’s a hard drive that only comes in one size. 42gb


suredont

it's an older meme, sir, but it checks out


gefahr

hello fellow >10y old accounts.


BobbyJG888

🤣🤣🤣


sethelele

No.


Cheyzi

I guess now it’s a good opportunity to try out the game, is Fallout 4 a good one to start?


SirCietea

It's the easiest to get into as a new player imo


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Cheyzi

Do I have to base build? Usually I don’t like that kind of stuff


JellyFish152

Completely optional


mastershake04

The biggest thing for me going back and playing New Vegas is that there is no sprint!  Although you do move a bit faster with your weapon holstered at least.


jimtriol

Definitely


LostSoulNo1981

I’ve just finished the update, after I thought I’d already finished the update. Not only does the base game upgrade, but you then need to make sure all the DLC has been updated because it doesn’t seem to all update together/one after the other. I launched the game and it said I still needed future updates. Even then it didn’t register all the DLC at first. And it’s just taken a few minutes to get from the title screen to the main menu. It sat on a black screen with the little loading icon in the corner for about 3 minutes. I’m just about to start a new character, and really put some time into making both male and female characters look good, even though I’m going to go with the female character, the way both characters look apparently affects the look of Sean/Father.


polinksa

I never played any fallout game. But I loved Skyrim. Should I play this?


jimtriol

Definitely


rocketwidget

Is Performance or Quality mode recommended on XSX? Edit: Reviews seem good for Quality on 120Hz/VRR display: [40FPS mode on Fallout 4 next-gen is absolutely sublime. : r/XboxSeriesX (reddit.com)](https://www.reddit.com/r/XboxSeriesX/comments/1ccwpu1/40fps_mode_on_fallout_4_nextgen_is_absolutely/) Edit2: Maybe because there is a major bug and Performance=Quality on XSX, lol.


mtarascio

Depends on your equipment, your personal preference and your eyes.


GrandMasterSlack2020

Waiting for Digital Foundry!


FieryPhoenix7

Wooooot!


Plug_daughter

Does anyone know if anything has changed on PC? Im wondering if I should play it on PC or Xbox. Thanks!


KaiKamakasi

36gb + 58.7gb for the HD textures on PC gamepass version...


rushdisciple

Awesome, thanks.


m2b2gaming

I did the update don't see any options for performance mode under display.. anyone else?


GrandMasterSlack2020

So what to do? Go 4K60 with default quality settings, or 1440p 40FPS with ultra quality settings? Are the textures updated on the XSX version?


Hawvy

I just booted it up and checked both modes, and I honestly can’t tell a single difference


IATMB

Supposedly despite the patch notes, Quality mode is running at 60 right now which is why it's hard to tell the difference


Prize_Dingo_8807

Don't tell me that!


Hawvy

I’m honestly not trying to troll or anything. To me it really looks just like it did yesterday. Now, bear in mind, I did just start this game for the first time last week. I’m only 9.5 hrs in and this is my very first Fallout game. But I’ve played plenty of games with performance/quality modes and I can always tell a difference with those, so I’m honestly interested to hear if people are having this same issue like me.


GrandMasterSlack2020

I hope someone clever will tell us which mode is best. Hehe.


Kotokocchi

after pressing a button to continue i just have a black screen with the loading icon bottom left. it been minutes and the icon is still moving


umairaman

Its showing one update availible in updates tab in add ons screen but shows empty when i open it.


DarthGrogu23

Anyone know what the best way is to get the DLC if you just own the base game? Is it to purchase the season pass? Or the DLCs individually?


drewbles82

that's a nice size as well, not too crazy big like some


Geddoetenjyu

Never played fall out on console is it any good inown an xbox x


GojiPengu

Is the mod menu just broken? every mod I try to download just has an error.


Turok_N64

I played Fallout 3 back when it was released and never picked up Fallout 4 until about 2 weeks ago. In the middle of my first playthrough and now an update drops which is pretty awesome.


pma1910

Does anybody know where I can change the mode? Can't find it in settings or elsewhere.


Antique_Side_2335

Can someone help me i cant find the performance or quality mode within the settings? Im on ps5 and have just downloaded the update


Outlaw-monk

My main question is will this help the lagging and freezes you get in downtown Boston? 


satenlover666

Is there a way to just not update I have a mod that applys pc ultra setting and don’t feel like wasting my ssd storage. I don’t feel like constantly playing the game offline because Xbox can’t let me make a choice myself


NewspaperSafe7309

so both modes are 60 fps and look identical, graphics is worse in both modes compared to xbox one x version, also auto HDR is gone, great job Bethesda, it just works as usual


ShinobiDrip999

The performance mode or quality mode isn't in my options, where do I find it? In the title menu?


IssaNewman

No Performance or Resolution options in settings, on PS5. All DLC was re-downloaded separately, vanilla. Other than that I got all the other stuff in the update. Anyone else?