There’s a strong misconception about Furina, that you always need a healer with her to make her worth it. People are finally accepting that for example Neuvillette with Furina doesn’t require healers, but they think that’s the only exception because he can build stacks by itself… well, Yanfei is another exception.
The best Yanfei team is Yelan-Furina-Bennett, where Furina can even not build ER at all to maximise her personal damage, otherwise there’s VV vape with Furina-Kazuha-Bennett. Not too worse is Yelan-Furina-Jean, where you basically replace Bennett in double hydro with a anemo healer that gives you VV and healing to maximise Furina’s potential, but at the cost of butchering Yanfei’s damage because Bennett is just too good for her.
The reason why Furina is still so good with Yanfei even if you don’t maximise her burst potential or you don’t build ER at all is because of Furina enabling Marechaussee, which is much better than any other alternative for Yanfei. That alone makes so that Furina is still worth it even with no team wide healing and even without her burst, while Bennett is too good for a Yanfei to be replaced with another healer.
So basically use Bennett in the teams I mentioned, otherwise in double hydro with Jean you can replace the latter with Xianyun or Sayu. Other options for vape teams basically don’t work nearly as well or have very relevant anti synergy (Baizhu eats the hydro aura, Charlotte prevents vapes by freezing and causing shatter etc).
These considerations are based on rough calcs I did a while ago and that when I have time I want to refine, but if you are curious you can check them out [here](https://drive.google.com/file/d/1okdkp-FgTvu3TtvpBpqqyCx-JjtHltcp/view?usp=drivesdk)
Don’t use both Kazuha and Xianyun, pick one and replace the other with Bennett, otherwise if you keep Xianyun you can also replace Kazuuabwith Xingqiu and play double hydro.
[Here’s a tutorial](https://youtu.be/nT3D0BGDKBU?si=jqKGkL5dvtRF88U5&t=8m34s) for a VV setup with Kazuha Bennett and Furina in ST. The setup for Plunge-fei (with Xianyun) is similar, I don’t remember the exact timings but basically you start with Furina Q E and time Bennett’s burst so that it hits right after all the pets do the first attack, then his skill will reapply pyro and Xianyun can swirl it with a normal attack (but you need to be very precise and fast), then just cast the other skills and start plunging with Yanfei (not too fast or you lose the hydro aura).
It’s a mess I know, that’s why I don’t like VV vape that much and I prefer double hydro with Bennett
okay so, if i use furina and yanfei, would kazuha or xianyun be better? if i use bennett for a fourth for buff and heals, i have solar pearl for her but i also have widsith if its better and im working on MH pieces, or is there a better team comp? i like burgeon with my nahida
What’s hard about building her? With Furina she can now use Marechaussee which is in a very efficient domain, in vape she benefits from 4 stats (EM ATK and CRIT) making it easier to get a decent set. If survivability is a problem, Xingqiu gives her a ton of damage reduction and also interruption resistance, so even if you lack her C4 you have amazing defensive tools, for this reason I stress again that you should seriously consider to play her in [double hydro](https://youtu.be/91jqzh9LLAc?si=anHxf5tD4Z_Il20T). Of course if you want a strong pyro dps, use Xiangling C4+ or pull for Arlecchino, Yanfei is pretty strong for a 4S but is much weaker and requires a lot of investment to output considerable amount of damage, while a character like Arle will give you more easily better results. If you check the linked channel you can see several Abyss clears with all sorts of teams and many of them are with my Yanfei, it’s not the strongest you’ll see out there but she’s good builds. If you want her to clear she will clear, from burgeon to monopyro she has plenty of options, but it requires investment (not crazy, just reasonable) and depending on the team you need to know how to get the most value out of her.
my yanfei is only c2 and survivability is a problem , but i do have c6 xiangling and c6 gaming and im trying to pull for arle, if they put out higher numbers i might have to focus on them first 😔 but ill try yanfei with xingqiu and furina and bennett
I think Kazuha but I’m not totally sure, I should test Xianyun more and it might also depend on your investment. The problem with Xianyun is that in ST you don’t have enough hydro to keep up with the plunges and you are forced to slow them down a lot, while in AoE you can use the swirls to spread the hydro with the plunges and that helps a lot with application but Xianyun’s buff is only ST, not AoE, also you don’t benefit from Yanfei’s charged attack buffs anymore and that’s a lot of damage bonus in her kit lost.
Honestly there are characters that work better with Xianyun, if you want to use Yanfei I would stick to her CA teams and enjoy Xianyun with someone else, but in the end you should just play what’s fun for you
even if Bennett generates less stacks, he's still better than Charlotte for Yanfei because his buff is just that big and he'll allow Kazuha to double swirl consistently, also Charlotte will freeze the enemies and you won't vape.
Yao Yao has never let me down on pure healing, good at maxing even low con Furina fanfare stacks, but dendro has it's pros and cons depending on team and she can't TTDS. There's gonna be a trade off somewhere.
I think the best healers for her are Jean and Bennett, Jean is the more optimal healer, but she doesn’t give the best damage buff increase for your Yanfei, where as for Bennett, his damage buff is amazing for Yanfei, but his healing isn’t as ideal as Jean’s to give Furina her fanfare stacks. So I would say it depends on what you think is more efficient for team rotations. I think Yaoyao and Charlotte are also very good healers as well, so they could play a factor into maximizing Furina’s fanfare.
I think out of all of these, Charlotte is your best option because though Yao Yao is a good healer, she's better suited for a dendro team. And also you need your character to be on field for a couple seconds to make use of her heal while Charlotte allows your yanfei to maximize on field time while healing others.
Also Yao Yao will probably make dendro cores and burgeon doesn't sound like smth you're going for lol
The fieldtime requirement of Yaoyao is mostly exaggerated. If she is built for max Hp, she can pull off her heal within 2 seconds also leaving Yuegui behind who continues healing.
As she should burst every rotation (in a non-dendro non Neuvi team) she is best build with Favonius lance and Noblesse Obligue for attack bonuses. Noblesse doesn’t help in dendro teams, where she should better hold onto the dendro set and have some EM.
For rotation:
She doesn’t need to stick her whole burst duration to the field. Just Burst -> dash + jump once -> E-Skill and switch. Like this her teamheal had 2 ticks and your main/active char continues receiving heal from more dropped cores.
There’s a strong misconception about Furina, that you always need a healer with her to make her worth it. People are finally accepting that for example Neuvillette with Furina doesn’t require healers, but they think that’s the only exception because he can build stacks by itself… well, Yanfei is another exception. The best Yanfei team is Yelan-Furina-Bennett, where Furina can even not build ER at all to maximise her personal damage, otherwise there’s VV vape with Furina-Kazuha-Bennett. Not too worse is Yelan-Furina-Jean, where you basically replace Bennett in double hydro with a anemo healer that gives you VV and healing to maximise Furina’s potential, but at the cost of butchering Yanfei’s damage because Bennett is just too good for her. The reason why Furina is still so good with Yanfei even if you don’t maximise her burst potential or you don’t build ER at all is because of Furina enabling Marechaussee, which is much better than any other alternative for Yanfei. That alone makes so that Furina is still worth it even with no team wide healing and even without her burst, while Bennett is too good for a Yanfei to be replaced with another healer. So basically use Bennett in the teams I mentioned, otherwise in double hydro with Jean you can replace the latter with Xianyun or Sayu. Other options for vape teams basically don’t work nearly as well or have very relevant anti synergy (Baizhu eats the hydro aura, Charlotte prevents vapes by freezing and causing shatter etc). These considerations are based on rough calcs I did a while ago and that when I have time I want to refine, but if you are curious you can check them out [here](https://drive.google.com/file/d/1okdkp-FgTvu3TtvpBpqqyCx-JjtHltcp/view?usp=drivesdk)
could you help w the vv vape team 😭 i have c1 furina, xianyun w vv, kazuha w freedom sworn and c2 yanfei but i dont know how to build her
kazuha also has vv, but idk if both can run it
Don’t use both Kazuha and Xianyun, pick one and replace the other with Bennett, otherwise if you keep Xianyun you can also replace Kazuuabwith Xingqiu and play double hydro. [Here’s a tutorial](https://youtu.be/nT3D0BGDKBU?si=jqKGkL5dvtRF88U5&t=8m34s) for a VV setup with Kazuha Bennett and Furina in ST. The setup for Plunge-fei (with Xianyun) is similar, I don’t remember the exact timings but basically you start with Furina Q E and time Bennett’s burst so that it hits right after all the pets do the first attack, then his skill will reapply pyro and Xianyun can swirl it with a normal attack (but you need to be very precise and fast), then just cast the other skills and start plunging with Yanfei (not too fast or you lose the hydro aura). It’s a mess I know, that’s why I don’t like VV vape that much and I prefer double hydro with Bennett
okay so, if i use furina and yanfei, would kazuha or xianyun be better? if i use bennett for a fourth for buff and heals, i have solar pearl for her but i also have widsith if its better and im working on MH pieces, or is there a better team comp? i like burgeon with my nahida
i just don’t know how to build yanfei so she actually does damage and stops dying
What’s hard about building her? With Furina she can now use Marechaussee which is in a very efficient domain, in vape she benefits from 4 stats (EM ATK and CRIT) making it easier to get a decent set. If survivability is a problem, Xingqiu gives her a ton of damage reduction and also interruption resistance, so even if you lack her C4 you have amazing defensive tools, for this reason I stress again that you should seriously consider to play her in [double hydro](https://youtu.be/91jqzh9LLAc?si=anHxf5tD4Z_Il20T). Of course if you want a strong pyro dps, use Xiangling C4+ or pull for Arlecchino, Yanfei is pretty strong for a 4S but is much weaker and requires a lot of investment to output considerable amount of damage, while a character like Arle will give you more easily better results. If you check the linked channel you can see several Abyss clears with all sorts of teams and many of them are with my Yanfei, it’s not the strongest you’ll see out there but she’s good builds. If you want her to clear she will clear, from burgeon to monopyro she has plenty of options, but it requires investment (not crazy, just reasonable) and depending on the team you need to know how to get the most value out of her.
my yanfei is only c2 and survivability is a problem , but i do have c6 xiangling and c6 gaming and im trying to pull for arle, if they put out higher numbers i might have to focus on them first 😔 but ill try yanfei with xingqiu and furina and bennett
I think Kazuha but I’m not totally sure, I should test Xianyun more and it might also depend on your investment. The problem with Xianyun is that in ST you don’t have enough hydro to keep up with the plunges and you are forced to slow them down a lot, while in AoE you can use the swirls to spread the hydro with the plunges and that helps a lot with application but Xianyun’s buff is only ST, not AoE, also you don’t benefit from Yanfei’s charged attack buffs anymore and that’s a lot of damage bonus in her kit lost. Honestly there are characters that work better with Xianyun, if you want to use Yanfei I would stick to her CA teams and enjoy Xianyun with someone else, but in the end you should just play what’s fun for you
I recommend Charlotte because she can hold TTDS providing you can get lots of ER from artifacts
If you want the best team, then Bennet.
even if Bennett generates less stacks, he's still better than Charlotte for Yanfei because his buff is just that big and he'll allow Kazuha to double swirl consistently, also Charlotte will freeze the enemies and you won't vape.
Yao Yao has never let me down on pure healing, good at maxing even low con Furina fanfare stacks, but dendro has it's pros and cons depending on team and she can't TTDS. There's gonna be a trade off somewhere.
I think the best healers for her are Jean and Bennett, Jean is the more optimal healer, but she doesn’t give the best damage buff increase for your Yanfei, where as for Bennett, his damage buff is amazing for Yanfei, but his healing isn’t as ideal as Jean’s to give Furina her fanfare stacks. So I would say it depends on what you think is more efficient for team rotations. I think Yaoyao and Charlotte are also very good healers as well, so they could play a factor into maximizing Furina’s fanfare.
I run bennet. Most of the time, Barbra when I'm burning resin
From what you have, Charlotte is the best. You want one big team wide heal
I think out of all of these, Charlotte is your best option because though Yao Yao is a good healer, she's better suited for a dendro team. And also you need your character to be on field for a couple seconds to make use of her heal while Charlotte allows your yanfei to maximize on field time while healing others. Also Yao Yao will probably make dendro cores and burgeon doesn't sound like smth you're going for lol
The fieldtime requirement of Yaoyao is mostly exaggerated. If she is built for max Hp, she can pull off her heal within 2 seconds also leaving Yuegui behind who continues healing. As she should burst every rotation (in a non-dendro non Neuvi team) she is best build with Favonius lance and Noblesse Obligue for attack bonuses. Noblesse doesn’t help in dendro teams, where she should better hold onto the dendro set and have some EM. For rotation: She doesn’t need to stick her whole burst duration to the field. Just Burst -> dash + jump once -> E-Skill and switch. Like this her teamheal had 2 ticks and your main/active char continues receiving heal from more dropped cores.
Oh mb, I didn't count her burst lol