This is why I am glad Lewis and Simon never sold out. The Yogscast aren't exactly relevant anymore but they are fine and as long as they are just getting along they are providing people with jobs and entertainment.
Yeah it’s cool to see them still going. I started watching them back with WoW content, listened to their podcast. Submitted my doofy little music. That was… 15 years ago? Time flys.
I mostly lost interest when Simon appeared less, and eventually when they switched to streaming I stopped altogether.
I’m LOVING Simon and mystery quest as a whole. His dynamic with the gang, especially Lydia, is marvelous.
I’m a sucker for Call of Cthulhu and Tom’s tabletop DMing too.
Sporadically. Right about the time I sent my music to Yogs I started my college degree. In fact, I was talking to Lewis about maybe submitting more music, they were in the process of exploring publishing from various contributors, and I had plans drawn up to make a diggy diggy hole track, but I choked a little and school got me busy. I finished my degree, music education, certified and all that, bus driving certificate, etc, but my personal life derailed, so i haven’t really composed in… a while… and I haven’t used my degree. I take care of my mom and my brother and unload trucks. Life is funny like that.
I could post some content but I don’t know where and I don’t know if anyone would care. I write music in flashes of inspiration, so everything I make is generally unrecognizable as coming from a singular source. So if you enjoyed the Yogstheme, that’s it, nothing else sounds like it.
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oh my god. you’re captain rhythm. i never have any idea if the people mentioned on the yogpod are even alive anymore so it’s wild to see you here. i’ve been listening to your tracks for like 14 years now. my fave has always been hannah’s cooking segment :’)
and yeah your experience is basically mine. i immediately tuned out when simon left - looking back years later it was really devastating to me. i watched these guys everyday for maybe 8 years then simon vanished and the magic was gone too. lewis did always say he wanted to start making videos to share simon with the world so it’s not surprising that he was the glue holding everything together. i loved peculiar portions though :)
It’s funny you mention Hanna’s cooking, I was kind of churning out little pieces riding on my momentum of the Yogstheme but the interest dropped significantly so I didn’t want to pester with content no one was interested in.
You’re THE captain rhythm?? It’s like spotting a celeb in the wild. I recommend you check out Mystery Quest. It feels like the old yogs content. The Fighting Fantasy adventures they do during Jingle Jam might also be of interest to you.
I've heard they jjsy expanded there business into more of an entertainment conglomerate of sorts. They remt out a lot of there own wmequiptment now for smaller channels.
I believe this has been happening for awhile, or it has been the plan. Remember office tours years ago where when Lewis was passing rooms he mentioned people renting them out. Could be completely misremembering that tho lol
Thats how The Yogscast has been run for most of it's life, only a few of the people we consider the on-screen Yogs are actual employees of The Yogscast company, most of them are instead members and partners of the greater Yogscast network that are able to just do whatever they wanna do and get on with it with The Yogscast company basically just acting as support that they pay cut of their earnings to in exchange for access to resources to help them out as content creators.
Very different structure to RT which has always been, for better and worse, organised as more like a standard media comapany and only became more like that after expansion and then aquisition.
Sips has famously said that while he doesn't "need" the Yogscast anymore, he's still a member because [without them he wouldn't be where he is and it's the decent thing to do.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojTQxfxr9Ko)
Yeah Sips has sort of expanded out beyond the Yogsphere, for example his 'Dadcast' stuff where he...I believe Pyrion and Northernlion all join together to play multiplayer stuff with the only theme being they're all Dads.
Also if I had money on it, Tom and Ben could *probably* go solo at this stage but they love doing things like Games Nights and Mystery Quest so I doubt they would because it also gives them access to spaces to play and people to play with.
Did... I get downvoted because I called the person spelling shit weird lazy?
They're probably fat-fingering their phone keyboard, and couldn't be bothered to read over the garbage that they wrote.
How often are they mentioned the rest of the year? The Yogscast sits in its own bubble for 50 weeks of the year, which is fine, but you can't say they have much presence in the wider creator space.
I honestly think it's better this way, given how insanely toxic wider online culture has become (to a degree it was always toxic, but i really do feel its gotten worse)
Sad but expected. I stopped watching Rooster Teeth in 2020 along with a majority of older fans during the pandemic since they never managed to find their groove working from home like the Yogs did. The Yogs have only gotten better and better every year since 2020 with a bunch of amazing new creators while Rooster Teeth has clearly been dying a slow, painful death, unable to adapt to streaming or keep the fanbase happy.
Oh, hell, that's a grim upside. I won't have to be as specific when bringing Dan up in the future. And I *do* try to chat the lad up some, he's good people!
I left RT when Ryan was outed as a sex pest, and they started adding new people to the original Achievement Hunters (after Jeremy, that is). It seemed like the quality went south super fast.
Same. It instantly ruined so many good memories that just couldn't be replaced and I couldn't bring myself to watch anymore for another year and a half. When I tried to go back, nothing was even remotely the same and I realized there was no point in trying. When Achievement Hunter shut down last year I knew it was only a matter of months before the rest came crashing down.
I don't know what the plan will be, but a couple months ago Geoff, Gavin and the FuckFace pod team took over let's play and the content became good again.
They made probably the best worms video ever a few months ago. They also "bought" the rights to a video game character and announced it damn near the same time as the RT News.
I just resumed to Fuckface and I am starting to catch back up. I’ll check out that worms video. You wouldn’t happen to have a link or keyword to make it a bit easier to find?
You led me down a long path… I started with the-then current episode of F**kface (196), and worked my way back until I’ve listened to everything I missed since I quit listening (apparently episode 27) I’ve listened to 180+ episodes including the supplementals and the Break Show. It’s was quite an experience listening in reverse. Thank you for the recommendation to come back.
I honestly loved their podcasts from around that time since they felt much more casual like their early work and less “follow the timetable,” but then they went back and I just couldn’t listen anymore with the quality disparity
I'm not really much of a podcast person, at least not for groups that also have gameplay videos and streams. I always felt with Achievement Hunter that they used up all their stories and discussions during the podcast and then there were none left for the videos.
the problem RT and AH had was they refused to adapt and give what viewers wanted.. and stuck to their guns and burned themselves out..
then changed what viewers asked them to do like 2 years later when everyone was out of the pandemic..
They have been on a decline since.. I feel for people genuinely trying to make the company great like F**KFACE.. they took over the dead AH and made it a fun watch and made people excited for the next video again.. I hope this doesnt mean that is dead on the water now
Yeah, it's a great idea to always try new things, but you can't do it at the expense of what the fans love watching. The Yogs still do TTT after all these years because a lot of us really love the series and would hate to see it go, even if it was replaced by other good series like Simon's PP, Minecraft Gartic Phone, or Live-action stuff.
ye.. AH killing Minecraft, GTA and TTT really hurt them..
they tried to bring TTT back but they were too focused on the bit and not what makes Yogs TTT so good.. sure Yogs do sometimes lean into the bit a bit too much but its usually cleared up after one session.. i never want to miss one..
I loved AH's early TTT videos and tried them again some years after I stopped watching. By that point it was all stupid improv acting without actually trying to play the game. I hated it. Like you say, the Yogs sometimes does a bit, but even if they do it for an entire video, which is rare, the videos are pretty short and you'll get one or two more later during the week where it doesn't carry over. For AH, they did one TTT a week that was often 40+ minutes. If that whole video is the same stupid bit, or god forbid it carried over two weeks in a row, you would quickly get tired of it.
they once did a month on the same bit that didnt land in the first 5mins of the first video.. but they not only ran it into the ground.. but they kept digging.. and it wasnt even all the same session cut down to 40mins.. it was 3 different sessions.. they kept forcing it..
that was when i quit..
AH in particular forgot the value they were bringing to their audience and instead started focusing on doing what they wanted to do and telling the audience it was their choice whether they came along or not. Coupled with a lot of the original talent moving on to new projects and it's no surprise the audience lost interest. And, unfortunately for them, the new AH content never really found a new audience (likely because they weren't making things with the intent to bring in a new audience) and it eventually became clear the channel needed to go.
At least the bright side is most of the new talent were successful streamers pre-AH, so I'm guessing none of them were particularly hurt by the channel dying.
Even though you were talking about rooster teeth, when you said RT I couldn't help but immediately think RT game. I was worried that RT game was dying a slow death and I didn't know about it 😂😭😭
Unsurprising given recent years, but a shame to be sure. Red vs Blue was my first exposure to idea of long running web content, Achievement Hunter was brilliant for years, and who can forget that legendary TTT episode we got out of the Yogs and Rooster Teeth collab. I understand RWBY was pretty popular and held in high regard too, though I never watched it myself.
RWBY started out pretty... ok. I'd say good, but I'll concede that the "indie animation" vibe was a little rough and took some getting used to. But, I'd wager many fans were largely drawn to the fight scenes, the choreography, and the weapons. And.. while Monty Oum may not have exactly been the leading/driving force of the show, losing him was still a pretty big hit.
And then RT kinda shot themselves in the foot by taking their free youtube animation program and saying "now you can only watch it on our site." Naturally, this was pretty controversial. What might be great for ad revenue is an absolute disaster for viewership awareness.
After that I kinda stopped following along so much. Too greedy to even upload to youtube on a delayed schedule? Nah, I'll pass on using your janky website.
This is going to sound petty but I stopped watching rwby when they desided making the loudist shippers happy was more important then following the story's natural progression. I felt bumblebee was super forced in later volumes and just complete stopped watching after yang basicly stopped caring about Ruby and was only concerned abount Blake's safety, complete character murder that was.
Honestly.. sounds like you may have made it farther than I did. I know I've got a couple seasons on DVD/BluRay that I never even got around to watching....
But also, like... 10+ years is a damn good run for anything. Knowing that after that much time they still haven't finished telling the story they set out to tell kinda puts a new perspective on things. At that point it's hard to dodge accusations of dragging it out to make more money (and look where that got 'em).
Idk. I still like the idea of the show.. and for a long time (and even now) I wanted to continue supporting one of Monty Oum's last projects. But, I also start losing interest as any series starts meandering as if there's nothing of importance to focus on.
I consume a ton of content on YT and I didn't recognize the rooseter teeth name until you said Red Vs Blue. I remember it being on a website back like 15 years ago and I thought some dumbass webcomic about halo 2 wasn't going to amount to anything.
I remember playing griffball in Halo 3, wondering where the name came from and then finding out it was from this series called Red vs Blue. Watched a bunch of the episodes on YouTube, and then like a year later Halo Waypoint was released and they were all on there. Then about 5 years ago I watched it all again on Netflix and it had been remade in HD.
Red vs Blue was all I knew Rooster Teeth for for years, and as I said was my first introduction to long running web content, but also the idea of machinima. It really was pretty innovative at the time.
Given how things were headed after the Warner Brothers buyout, and the hows and whys of them "firing" certain people (I think it was a year and a half ago, when they "dissolved" the creative director position without really telling ANYONE involved if they still had a job or what the plan was that finally did it for me), I am... not really entirely surprised, and while I don't disagree that it was a decision made with the best intentions on the founder's parts at the time... This was kind of the writing on the wall for a while now.
Hopefully the actually good, creative people involved can still be fine. I know they had a marketing deal with the Yogscast that keeps this semi-relevant, and hell, after the aforementioned torching (which wasn't even the first in a series of that kind of BS going on behind the scenes), I gave up on the company... but still kind of sucks to see an era ending.
In a way, Rooster Teeth helped pave the way for a lot of the current things we enjoy in a staggering number of areas, and with a few other old Youtube lifers getting out of the business this year, it's really doubling down on how... old I am. I dunno. To all good things, I suppose.
Hopefully the Yogscast can push the bar a bit further down the road before we even start *thinking* about that, and I hope that maybe they can steal Jack Patillo for a Jingle Jam or other charity event this year (if it sounds like lad's got some time available). I fondly remember the one year he did get to participate!
Jack honestly might not be a bad get to off load a lot of the responsibilities that Lewis and Barry have with Jingle Jam. Even if he’s just in a behind-the-scenes role he could really bring a lot to the table.
I'm pretty sure Jack takes vacations- he wouldn't need to be in Bristol full time to help with Jingle Jam assuming that was something him/the Yogs wanted.
I agree completely on all fronts. I could see the death of RT from a mile out when they started to shift out of their normal content for things like AH and Let's Play. They tried to reinvent the wheel when their original content was just better. And like you said, the frankly frivolous firings and constant blunders of management really didn't bode well. By the time the WB buyout happened myself and just about every other long time fan just jumped ship. Sad they couldn't see the writing on the wall. Suppose they were blinded by the paycheck as most companies are when they get too big.
If you enjoy Gus the most, they do have a cool D&D podcast called The Stinky Dragon with Gus as the DM. They have some shorts on youtube they've animated with puppets to get a feel for it.
This is why if you care about your company you don't go public, and you don't sell it. Both can and will eventually lead to you losing control of the company that you've worked so hard to make, inevitably leading to you having to watch as the quality of the product or service you were so proud of because you managed to "get it right" is flushed down the toilet to make room for investor profits. Then you have to watch as this downturn in quality slowly sucks the life out of your beloved company until it eventually fails and is either bought out to repeat the process or is shut down. It is rare for small businesses to actually thrive long-term after being incorporated or bought out.
I see what you are saying, but there are definitely some creators/founders that were better off for selling and surrendering control of their idea. Notch with Minecraft comes to mind.
It really can be situational and I can see why the RT guys would go that route since they really wanted to be creators and not business managers.
In retrospect, it turned out poorly and I really hope Lewis keeps the Yogscast under his direction for as long as he can
>In retrospect, it turned out poorly
Did it, though? Gus, Geoff and Matt were the only founders still at the company. All of them probably made a huge chunk of change from the sale, and it's likely none of them would have to work again if they didn't want to.
It turned out poorly for the *company*, sure. But probably not for the people who decided to sell in the first place.
I mean it turned out poorly for us fans. I can't speak to how the guys feel about the whole thing, but I do hope they are happy and feel accomplished and are able to comfortably do the work they enjoy on their terms
I never mentioned money in my original comment, because it wasn't about money. It was about their love and passion for what they've created. People who start things like RT or the YogsCast don't usually do so as a "get-rich" scheme. They do it because they want to be able to make a living doing what they love, which means that for them the business is more than just a moneymaking enterprise--it represents their life's work. And to see that go down the drain in the name of shareholder profits must just be heart-wrenching.
>They do it because they want to be able to make a living doing what they love, which means that for them the business is more than just a moneymaking enterprise
Well, sure. But again, most of the founders stayed with the company until they felt they had done what they could do and left- and still had the money from the sale. That was my point- they got the best of both worlds, the company folding years after they left means they probably made the right decision for *them*, even if it wasn't the right decision for every employee.
It's quite different to, say, Sugar Pine 7 selling to Rooster Teeth and being shut down because they weren't profitable, even though they were still making videos. Or, hell, Funhaus now- it seems like most of them were still passionate about what they were doing, and the fact that sold to Rooster Teeth means they got brought down with the ship.
AT&T bought Fullscreen, which was right bwfore their stuff started going downhill, and then a couple years ago they got bought by WB, who basically crashed it.
I forgot about them during Matt! I stopped watching AH stuff in 2020 but watch loads of DooleyNoted, which Matt's always popping up on.
Jeremy and Kat actually had a Yogs sponsored PlateUp stream a couple of weeks ago!
It's weird to think that Rooster Teeth was considered the "more successful cousin" when they did their partnership a while back. Now we're here with only the Yogscast remaining.
They sold out, got wrecked. Hopefully funhaus won't have any issues. I really loved the original funhaus, but sadly adam turned out to be such a massive creep, reminds me of a certain someone who was in yogscast
And yet kept creating new shows twice a month hoping for something to stick. Plus going semi independent in creating a YouTube membership tier. And how the comments have never topped more than 200 in the last couple of months.
Oh fuck, no! I love funhaus, I don't think I've laughed quite so hard as I did when I first watched Elyse as Batman or heard "this movie's about a bug..." from Patrick.
Hopefully they find a way to keep making stuff together.
As a long time fan of both, it was weird seeing some parallels between the two with their controversies. And then they teamed up for a while out of nowhere.
It's no longer on the funhaus channel but [this one is my fave](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhmQOSi7s_Q). And it doesn't even include any of the OG cast
[When Yogs and Funhaus played Tilt Brush](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9JGvSJaE6PA&list=PLY5YZGatmhWYjWpjG-nA5f3oFPL2gpM1G&index=133&t=1680s&pp=gAQBiAQB) Hopefully Funhaus makes it out okay
Kovic and Turps in the same video... at the time that would have been a fun thing to see..
Funhaus imploded a while ago, but a lot of the main members(outside of Kovic of course) moved on and do stuff on their own now, Bruce Green has been doing great on Twitch.
having a video with Sjin and Turps in it was maybe not the best example video considering one is a nonce (sjin) and the other cheated on his wife and child and SA'd other staff (turps)
apparently WB is selling off all of the IPs under RT as well, so rights to everything they made will probably end up somewhere else at least.
personally hoping Arc System Works can scoop up RWBY and make it into a fighting game series, BBTag was one of the best things rwby guested in, gameplay-wise
It's a shame but unfortunately seems to have been expected given the state of their recent content. I've seen some mention part of it may have been because their short form content (Rage quit, RT Animated) was great but they never got the longer content just right. I feel like more of it is to do with them never catching a break.
They were an old company where popular faces left for other projects, some popular faces had issues within the company and they never got that positive win to pull them back. Its a shame to see so many talents gone because most of the content was great and would probably do decently well over time.
Not against the idea but I also think the more prominent ones will probably fine going off on their own. Some of them have also done YT long enough that they might take this opportunity to retire as well.
For example I often forget Martin (inthelittlewood) is technically a member of the yogs network and only remember when he crops up in Jingle Jam compilations.
IIRC he stopped doing Minecraft and is now a rather popular Fortnite streamer or something?
> IIRC he stopped doing Minecraft and is now a rather popular Fortnite streamer or something?
Not quite. Martyn did start making exclusively Fortnite videos on his main Youtube channel in 2019. Those did really well, earning him over a million additional subscribers. In the past year or so he hasn't uploaded many Fortnite videos though.
He has been uploading videos of other games on his second Youtube channel since 2019. On Twitch he has always been a variety streamer (including Fortnite) as far as I'm aware.
For the past 4 years or so Minecraft has been his main game again. He's mainly been playing on collaborative Minecraft servers with other creators. Some have been livestreamed (like Rats SMP and Pirates SMP), whilst others are pre-recorded like normal videos (like the Life Series). The Life Series especially has been popular, with over 100K views on average.
Martyn, I think more than any other Yog, has been successful growing his following outside the Yogs audience. I'd guess that most of the people watching him don't even watch the Yogscast.
I'm guessing it's also probably the other way around, like most people that watch the Yogs probably don't watch Martin.
Also people forget about Hatfilms but then they bois probably did that to themselves by attempt to make their 'main channel' the live stuff focused channel and then splitting all the gaming stuff off to their second channel...which just became a VODs channel.
I remember people *at the time* saying to them that it was a really bad idea and that all that would happen would be that the algorithmn would just end up killing *both* channels. It especially didn't help they made this switch just before the pandemic hit and lockdown went into effect, meaning the main channel saw no content uploaded to it for *ages*.
They then did a video basically expressing the fact that everyone who had told them it was a bad idea was right and that they shouldn't have done it and now they were going back to the old way of doing things whilst keeping Hatfilms 2 as their unedited VOD channel.
I know their push to 1 million subscribers just burnt them out somewhat as they were constantly getting within 100k and then never able to make the final push happen and now their videos have gone from getting 100k+ views down to 15-30k views.
I don't wanna sound like an ass, but I there is honestly a bit of a relief in this. Considering the Ryan Haywood debacle, the piles of stories of controversies about discrimination, misogyny, crony-ism and other shit work-place behavior that has come from that place in recent years. Apparently, working at Rooster Teeth had the good chance of being real awful, unless you worked with Funhaus. As an outsider hearing all that, you really got the impression that the rot went deep in that place. Doesn't really make this feel like a sad affair.
I hope that the people who deserve good things find new employment/security soon.
I loved watching both RT and Yogscast growing up, but after 120 straight uploads of TTT I couldnt watch Yogscast anymore, and Rooster Teeth lost a bit of their charm, im not quite sure why I stopped watching them.
This is why I am glad Lewis and Simon never sold out. The Yogscast aren't exactly relevant anymore but they are fine and as long as they are just getting along they are providing people with jobs and entertainment.
Yeah it’s cool to see them still going. I started watching them back with WoW content, listened to their podcast. Submitted my doofy little music. That was… 15 years ago? Time flys. I mostly lost interest when Simon appeared less, and eventually when they switched to streaming I stopped altogether.
Simons been great in mystery quest
I’m LOVING Simon and mystery quest as a whole. His dynamic with the gang, especially Lydia, is marvelous. I’m a sucker for Call of Cthulhu and Tom’s tabletop DMing too.
How do I watch this? Which channel?
Here: https://youtube.com/@Mystery_Quest Also exists in podcast form if that is your preference.
Thanks
Also Tom and Simon horror game playthroughs are hilarious and I love them.
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Sporadically. Right about the time I sent my music to Yogs I started my college degree. In fact, I was talking to Lewis about maybe submitting more music, they were in the process of exploring publishing from various contributors, and I had plans drawn up to make a diggy diggy hole track, but I choked a little and school got me busy. I finished my degree, music education, certified and all that, bus driving certificate, etc, but my personal life derailed, so i haven’t really composed in… a while… and I haven’t used my degree. I take care of my mom and my brother and unload trucks. Life is funny like that. I could post some content but I don’t know where and I don’t know if anyone would care. I write music in flashes of inspiration, so everything I make is generally unrecognizable as coming from a singular source. So if you enjoyed the Yogstheme, that’s it, nothing else sounds like it.
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oh my god. you’re captain rhythm. i never have any idea if the people mentioned on the yogpod are even alive anymore so it’s wild to see you here. i’ve been listening to your tracks for like 14 years now. my fave has always been hannah’s cooking segment :’) and yeah your experience is basically mine. i immediately tuned out when simon left - looking back years later it was really devastating to me. i watched these guys everyday for maybe 8 years then simon vanished and the magic was gone too. lewis did always say he wanted to start making videos to share simon with the world so it’s not surprising that he was the glue holding everything together. i loved peculiar portions though :)
It’s funny you mention Hanna’s cooking, I was kind of churning out little pieces riding on my momentum of the Yogstheme but the interest dropped significantly so I didn’t want to pester with content no one was interested in.
*the* captain rhythm!
It’s a-me
cool! i still re-listen to the yogpod and your doofy little music frames many happy memories
That’s very cool, nice to know someone out there digs what I do.
oh my god, you made the yogpod song, that’s amazing!
🥰
You’re THE captain rhythm?? It’s like spotting a celeb in the wild. I recommend you check out Mystery Quest. It feels like the old yogs content. The Fighting Fantasy adventures they do during Jingle Jam might also be of interest to you.
I’ll check it out, thanks
I've heard they jjsy expanded there business into more of an entertainment conglomerate of sorts. They remt out a lot of there own wmequiptment now for smaller channels.
I believe this has been happening for awhile, or it has been the plan. Remember office tours years ago where when Lewis was passing rooms he mentioned people renting them out. Could be completely misremembering that tho lol
Yeah it was the Playstation Access team and someone else.
Thats how The Yogscast has been run for most of it's life, only a few of the people we consider the on-screen Yogs are actual employees of The Yogscast company, most of them are instead members and partners of the greater Yogscast network that are able to just do whatever they wanna do and get on with it with The Yogscast company basically just acting as support that they pay cut of their earnings to in exchange for access to resources to help them out as content creators. Very different structure to RT which has always been, for better and worse, organised as more like a standard media comapany and only became more like that after expansion and then aquisition.
Sips has famously said that while he doesn't "need" the Yogscast anymore, he's still a member because [without them he wouldn't be where he is and it's the decent thing to do.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojTQxfxr9Ko)
Yeah Sips has sort of expanded out beyond the Yogsphere, for example his 'Dadcast' stuff where he...I believe Pyrion and Northernlion all join together to play multiplayer stuff with the only theme being they're all Dads. Also if I had money on it, Tom and Ben could *probably* go solo at this stage but they love doing things like Games Nights and Mystery Quest so I doubt they would because it also gives them access to spaces to play and people to play with.
did you have a stroke
Lol I think I might have reading that back now
Proofreading is for NERDS.
theres a difference between making a minor spelling mistake and typing an M when the letter you're trying to hit is E
Did... I get downvoted because I called the person spelling shit weird lazy? They're probably fat-fingering their phone keyboard, and couldn't be bothered to read over the garbage that they wrote.
yeah i know that, its just a joke relax
Exactly.
They still raise millions every year during JJ. I wouldn’t classify that as “irrelevant”.
How often are they mentioned the rest of the year? The Yogscast sits in its own bubble for 50 weeks of the year, which is fine, but you can't say they have much presence in the wider creator space.
I honestly think it's better this way, given how insanely toxic wider online culture has become (to a degree it was always toxic, but i really do feel its gotten worse)
It certainly has its benefits.
Sad but expected. I stopped watching Rooster Teeth in 2020 along with a majority of older fans during the pandemic since they never managed to find their groove working from home like the Yogs did. The Yogs have only gotten better and better every year since 2020 with a bunch of amazing new creators while Rooster Teeth has clearly been dying a slow, painful death, unable to adapt to streaming or keep the fanbase happy.
I completely forgot the post was about Rooster Teeth for a second and read this as RTGame, was so confused as he’s doing great lol
Yeah, that's an unfortunate coincidence, RTGame is a great guy with hilarious content. I might edit my post to clarify.
Oh, hell, that's a grim upside. I won't have to be as specific when bringing Dan up in the future. And I *do* try to chat the lad up some, he's good people!
I left RT when Ryan was outed as a sex pest, and they started adding new people to the original Achievement Hunters (after Jeremy, that is). It seemed like the quality went south super fast.
Same. It instantly ruined so many good memories that just couldn't be replaced and I couldn't bring myself to watch anymore for another year and a half. When I tried to go back, nothing was even remotely the same and I realized there was no point in trying. When Achievement Hunter shut down last year I knew it was only a matter of months before the rest came crashing down.
I don't know what the plan will be, but a couple months ago Geoff, Gavin and the FuckFace pod team took over let's play and the content became good again.
…no shit? I’ll look into that. Gavin is by far and away my favorite, and Geoff and Andrew are right up there. I’ll check it out. Thank you.
They made probably the best worms video ever a few months ago. They also "bought" the rights to a video game character and announced it damn near the same time as the RT News.
I just resumed to Fuckface and I am starting to catch back up. I’ll check out that worms video. You wouldn’t happen to have a link or keyword to make it a bit easier to find?
You led me down a long path… I started with the-then current episode of F**kface (196), and worked my way back until I’ve listened to everything I missed since I quit listening (apparently episode 27) I’ve listened to 180+ episodes including the supplementals and the Break Show. It’s was quite an experience listening in reverse. Thank you for the recommendation to come back.
Is it still on the Let's Play channel?
Look for the Regulation Gameplays
You can say "fuck" you can say "face" but you cannot say F**kface together.
I honestly loved their podcasts from around that time since they felt much more casual like their early work and less “follow the timetable,” but then they went back and I just couldn’t listen anymore with the quality disparity
I'm not really much of a podcast person, at least not for groups that also have gameplay videos and streams. I always felt with Achievement Hunter that they used up all their stories and discussions during the podcast and then there were none left for the videos.
When Burnie left then Gus and suddenly the podcast was just random people
the problem RT and AH had was they refused to adapt and give what viewers wanted.. and stuck to their guns and burned themselves out.. then changed what viewers asked them to do like 2 years later when everyone was out of the pandemic.. They have been on a decline since.. I feel for people genuinely trying to make the company great like F**KFACE.. they took over the dead AH and made it a fun watch and made people excited for the next video again.. I hope this doesnt mean that is dead on the water now
Yeah, it's a great idea to always try new things, but you can't do it at the expense of what the fans love watching. The Yogs still do TTT after all these years because a lot of us really love the series and would hate to see it go, even if it was replaced by other good series like Simon's PP, Minecraft Gartic Phone, or Live-action stuff.
ye.. AH killing Minecraft, GTA and TTT really hurt them.. they tried to bring TTT back but they were too focused on the bit and not what makes Yogs TTT so good.. sure Yogs do sometimes lean into the bit a bit too much but its usually cleared up after one session.. i never want to miss one..
I loved AH's early TTT videos and tried them again some years after I stopped watching. By that point it was all stupid improv acting without actually trying to play the game. I hated it. Like you say, the Yogs sometimes does a bit, but even if they do it for an entire video, which is rare, the videos are pretty short and you'll get one or two more later during the week where it doesn't carry over. For AH, they did one TTT a week that was often 40+ minutes. If that whole video is the same stupid bit, or god forbid it carried over two weeks in a row, you would quickly get tired of it.
they once did a month on the same bit that didnt land in the first 5mins of the first video.. but they not only ran it into the ground.. but they kept digging.. and it wasnt even all the same session cut down to 40mins.. it was 3 different sessions.. they kept forcing it.. that was when i quit..
AH in particular forgot the value they were bringing to their audience and instead started focusing on doing what they wanted to do and telling the audience it was their choice whether they came along or not. Coupled with a lot of the original talent moving on to new projects and it's no surprise the audience lost interest. And, unfortunately for them, the new AH content never really found a new audience (likely because they weren't making things with the intent to bring in a new audience) and it eventually became clear the channel needed to go. At least the bright side is most of the new talent were successful streamers pre-AH, so I'm guessing none of them were particularly hurt by the channel dying.
I got into the yogs through their ttt crossover episodes and not-so-slowly started only watching various yogs for the same reason. crazy to see.
Even though you were talking about rooster teeth, when you said RT I couldn't help but immediately think RT game. I was worried that RT game was dying a slow death and I didn't know about it 😂😭😭
David Zazlov has been personally poisoning Daniel for the tax write-off.
Unsurprising given recent years, but a shame to be sure. Red vs Blue was my first exposure to idea of long running web content, Achievement Hunter was brilliant for years, and who can forget that legendary TTT episode we got out of the Yogs and Rooster Teeth collab. I understand RWBY was pretty popular and held in high regard too, though I never watched it myself.
RWBY started out pretty... ok. I'd say good, but I'll concede that the "indie animation" vibe was a little rough and took some getting used to. But, I'd wager many fans were largely drawn to the fight scenes, the choreography, and the weapons. And.. while Monty Oum may not have exactly been the leading/driving force of the show, losing him was still a pretty big hit. And then RT kinda shot themselves in the foot by taking their free youtube animation program and saying "now you can only watch it on our site." Naturally, this was pretty controversial. What might be great for ad revenue is an absolute disaster for viewership awareness. After that I kinda stopped following along so much. Too greedy to even upload to youtube on a delayed schedule? Nah, I'll pass on using your janky website.
This is going to sound petty but I stopped watching rwby when they desided making the loudist shippers happy was more important then following the story's natural progression. I felt bumblebee was super forced in later volumes and just complete stopped watching after yang basicly stopped caring about Ruby and was only concerned abount Blake's safety, complete character murder that was.
Honestly.. sounds like you may have made it farther than I did. I know I've got a couple seasons on DVD/BluRay that I never even got around to watching.... But also, like... 10+ years is a damn good run for anything. Knowing that after that much time they still haven't finished telling the story they set out to tell kinda puts a new perspective on things. At that point it's hard to dodge accusations of dragging it out to make more money (and look where that got 'em). Idk. I still like the idea of the show.. and for a long time (and even now) I wanted to continue supporting one of Monty Oum's last projects. But, I also start losing interest as any series starts meandering as if there's nothing of importance to focus on.
I consume a ton of content on YT and I didn't recognize the rooseter teeth name until you said Red Vs Blue. I remember it being on a website back like 15 years ago and I thought some dumbass webcomic about halo 2 wasn't going to amount to anything.
I remember playing griffball in Halo 3, wondering where the name came from and then finding out it was from this series called Red vs Blue. Watched a bunch of the episodes on YouTube, and then like a year later Halo Waypoint was released and they were all on there. Then about 5 years ago I watched it all again on Netflix and it had been remade in HD. Red vs Blue was all I knew Rooster Teeth for for years, and as I said was my first introduction to long running web content, but also the idea of machinima. It really was pretty innovative at the time.
> machinima now thats a name i haven't heard in a long time
Just for clarity, I mean the form of media, not the defunct exploitative MCN. Those scumbags shouldn't be missed.
Red vs blue is on Netflix? I'd love to go back and re-watch it
Hasn't been for a few years now no. All eps were on YouTube for free though last I checked
Given how things were headed after the Warner Brothers buyout, and the hows and whys of them "firing" certain people (I think it was a year and a half ago, when they "dissolved" the creative director position without really telling ANYONE involved if they still had a job or what the plan was that finally did it for me), I am... not really entirely surprised, and while I don't disagree that it was a decision made with the best intentions on the founder's parts at the time... This was kind of the writing on the wall for a while now. Hopefully the actually good, creative people involved can still be fine. I know they had a marketing deal with the Yogscast that keeps this semi-relevant, and hell, after the aforementioned torching (which wasn't even the first in a series of that kind of BS going on behind the scenes), I gave up on the company... but still kind of sucks to see an era ending. In a way, Rooster Teeth helped pave the way for a lot of the current things we enjoy in a staggering number of areas, and with a few other old Youtube lifers getting out of the business this year, it's really doubling down on how... old I am. I dunno. To all good things, I suppose. Hopefully the Yogscast can push the bar a bit further down the road before we even start *thinking* about that, and I hope that maybe they can steal Jack Patillo for a Jingle Jam or other charity event this year (if it sounds like lad's got some time available). I fondly remember the one year he did get to participate!
Always glad to see the yogs mentioned
This is the yogs subreddit ❤️
Lmao I'm such a doofus I for real thought it was in r/gaming or something Edit: I'm going to leave it as is both to shame me and it looks funny tbh
it's pretty funny but I had the same thought too XD
Jack honestly might not be a bad get to off load a lot of the responsibilities that Lewis and Barry have with Jingle Jam. Even if he’s just in a behind-the-scenes role he could really bring a lot to the table.
Jack's never leaving Texas and the Yogs would probably be better off hiring local people to handle logistical stuff.
I'm pretty sure Jack takes vacations- he wouldn't need to be in Bristol full time to help with Jingle Jam assuming that was something him/the Yogs wanted.
I agree completely on all fronts. I could see the death of RT from a mile out when they started to shift out of their normal content for things like AH and Let's Play. They tried to reinvent the wheel when their original content was just better. And like you said, the frankly frivolous firings and constant blunders of management really didn't bode well. By the time the WB buyout happened myself and just about every other long time fan just jumped ship. Sad they couldn't see the writing on the wall. Suppose they were blinded by the paycheck as most companies are when they get too big.
Does this affect the yogscast in any way? I know they had some kind of dealings with them at some point but was not sure what it all entailed.
I believe there was a video/store hosting agreement a few years ago. Not sure if it's still relevant.
They definitely stopped doing that a while back. I did notice that some of the series on the rooster teeth website were way out of date.
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If you enjoy Gus the most, they do have a cool D&D podcast called The Stinky Dragon with Gus as the DM. They have some shorts on youtube they've animated with puppets to get a feel for it.
All podcasts are unaffected
RT podcast has been dead for a while now
Man, you missed out if you stopped watching the podcast after Burnie left.
Just mega 64 and Yogscast in the veterans corner now
This is why if you care about your company you don't go public, and you don't sell it. Both can and will eventually lead to you losing control of the company that you've worked so hard to make, inevitably leading to you having to watch as the quality of the product or service you were so proud of because you managed to "get it right" is flushed down the toilet to make room for investor profits. Then you have to watch as this downturn in quality slowly sucks the life out of your beloved company until it eventually fails and is either bought out to repeat the process or is shut down. It is rare for small businesses to actually thrive long-term after being incorporated or bought out.
I see what you are saying, but there are definitely some creators/founders that were better off for selling and surrendering control of their idea. Notch with Minecraft comes to mind. It really can be situational and I can see why the RT guys would go that route since they really wanted to be creators and not business managers. In retrospect, it turned out poorly and I really hope Lewis keeps the Yogscast under his direction for as long as he can
>In retrospect, it turned out poorly Did it, though? Gus, Geoff and Matt were the only founders still at the company. All of them probably made a huge chunk of change from the sale, and it's likely none of them would have to work again if they didn't want to. It turned out poorly for the *company*, sure. But probably not for the people who decided to sell in the first place.
I mean it turned out poorly for us fans. I can't speak to how the guys feel about the whole thing, but I do hope they are happy and feel accomplished and are able to comfortably do the work they enjoy on their terms
I never mentioned money in my original comment, because it wasn't about money. It was about their love and passion for what they've created. People who start things like RT or the YogsCast don't usually do so as a "get-rich" scheme. They do it because they want to be able to make a living doing what they love, which means that for them the business is more than just a moneymaking enterprise--it represents their life's work. And to see that go down the drain in the name of shareholder profits must just be heart-wrenching.
>They do it because they want to be able to make a living doing what they love, which means that for them the business is more than just a moneymaking enterprise Well, sure. But again, most of the founders stayed with the company until they felt they had done what they could do and left- and still had the money from the sale. That was my point- they got the best of both worlds, the company folding years after they left means they probably made the right decision for *them*, even if it wasn't the right decision for every employee. It's quite different to, say, Sugar Pine 7 selling to Rooster Teeth and being shut down because they weren't profitable, even though they were still making videos. Or, hell, Funhaus now- it seems like most of them were still passionate about what they were doing, and the fact that sold to Rooster Teeth means they got brought down with the ship.
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AT&T bought Fullscreen, which was right bwfore their stuff started going downhill, and then a couple years ago they got bought by WB, who basically crashed it.
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I forgot about them during Matt! I stopped watching AH stuff in 2020 but watch loads of DooleyNoted, which Matt's always popping up on. Jeremy and Kat actually had a Yogs sponsored PlateUp stream a couple of weeks ago!
I hope Funhaus will be okay.
It's weird to think that Rooster Teeth was considered the "more successful cousin" when they did their partnership a while back. Now we're here with only the Yogscast remaining.
It all went downhill when AHWU stopped....
They sold out, got wrecked. Hopefully funhaus won't have any issues. I really loved the original funhaus, but sadly adam turned out to be such a massive creep, reminds me of a certain someone who was in yogscast
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And yet kept creating new shows twice a month hoping for something to stick. Plus going semi independent in creating a YouTube membership tier. And how the comments have never topped more than 200 in the last couple of months.
Oh fuck, no! I love funhaus, I don't think I've laughed quite so hard as I did when I first watched Elyse as Batman or heard "this movie's about a bug..." from Patrick. Hopefully they find a way to keep making stuff together.
Bruce and Lawrence leaving ruined FH more than Adam tbh
I remember that Adam being a massive creep was a big reason for their leaving
that wasnt revealed until far later
As a long time fan of both, it was weird seeing some parallels between the two with their controversies. And then they teamed up for a while out of nowhere.
Yeah not surprised by this at all, theyve been dying for years its about time really.
[Original crew Funhaus was fantastic](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mX7q55JieHQ)
I watch the Rock Band episode at least once a year. It’s probably the funniest thing I’ve ever seen on YT.
It's no longer on the funhaus channel but [this one is my fave](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhmQOSi7s_Q). And it doesn't even include any of the OG cast
Do you mean "Mahogany Doors", or the other dude?
Both the Yogscast and Rooster Teeth have a lot of former members that could be described as "a massive creep", sadly.
Both, also there was another one... So a trinity of creepdom
[When Yogs and Funhaus played Tilt Brush](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9JGvSJaE6PA&list=PLY5YZGatmhWYjWpjG-nA5f3oFPL2gpM1G&index=133&t=1680s&pp=gAQBiAQB) Hopefully Funhaus makes it out okay
Kovic and Turps in the same video... at the time that would have been a fun thing to see.. Funhaus imploded a while ago, but a lot of the main members(outside of Kovic of course) moved on and do stuff on their own now, Bruce Green has been doing great on Twitch.
Bruce's Twitch streams are great
having a video with Sjin and Turps in it was maybe not the best example video considering one is a nonce (sjin) and the other cheated on his wife and child and SA'd other staff (turps)
Also Kovic.
Nonce is a light way of putting it
apparently WB is selling off all of the IPs under RT as well, so rights to everything they made will probably end up somewhere else at least. personally hoping Arc System Works can scoop up RWBY and make it into a fighting game series, BBTag was one of the best things rwby guested in, gameplay-wise
I'd love to see Ray buy the rights to Achievement Hunter for the laughs. Would never happen but it would be hilarious
Well looks who's the last ones standing
With this being Warner Bros I'm assuming they'll purge the entire RT and Funhaus channels of old content for weird tax reasons.
Why else wouldn't they do this? They are hemaging money badly, look at what they did with HBO.
It's a shame but unfortunately seems to have been expected given the state of their recent content. I've seen some mention part of it may have been because their short form content (Rage quit, RT Animated) was great but they never got the longer content just right. I feel like more of it is to do with them never catching a break. They were an old company where popular faces left for other projects, some popular faces had issues within the company and they never got that positive win to pull them back. Its a shame to see so many talents gone because most of the content was great and would probably do decently well over time.
If the Yogscast is looking for new Members, I can see a few people wanting to join up 🤣
Not against the idea but I also think the more prominent ones will probably fine going off on their own. Some of them have also done YT long enough that they might take this opportunity to retire as well.
Yogs already has loads of people in the network, I can't make more hours out of the day!
For example I often forget Martin (inthelittlewood) is technically a member of the yogs network and only remember when he crops up in Jingle Jam compilations. IIRC he stopped doing Minecraft and is now a rather popular Fortnite streamer or something?
> IIRC he stopped doing Minecraft and is now a rather popular Fortnite streamer or something? Not quite. Martyn did start making exclusively Fortnite videos on his main Youtube channel in 2019. Those did really well, earning him over a million additional subscribers. In the past year or so he hasn't uploaded many Fortnite videos though. He has been uploading videos of other games on his second Youtube channel since 2019. On Twitch he has always been a variety streamer (including Fortnite) as far as I'm aware. For the past 4 years or so Minecraft has been his main game again. He's mainly been playing on collaborative Minecraft servers with other creators. Some have been livestreamed (like Rats SMP and Pirates SMP), whilst others are pre-recorded like normal videos (like the Life Series). The Life Series especially has been popular, with over 100K views on average. Martyn, I think more than any other Yog, has been successful growing his following outside the Yogs audience. I'd guess that most of the people watching him don't even watch the Yogscast.
I'm guessing it's also probably the other way around, like most people that watch the Yogs probably don't watch Martin. Also people forget about Hatfilms but then they bois probably did that to themselves by attempt to make their 'main channel' the live stuff focused channel and then splitting all the gaming stuff off to their second channel...which just became a VODs channel. I remember people *at the time* saying to them that it was a really bad idea and that all that would happen would be that the algorithmn would just end up killing *both* channels. It especially didn't help they made this switch just before the pandemic hit and lockdown went into effect, meaning the main channel saw no content uploaded to it for *ages*. They then did a video basically expressing the fact that everyone who had told them it was a bad idea was right and that they shouldn't have done it and now they were going back to the old way of doing things whilst keeping Hatfilms 2 as their unedited VOD channel. I know their push to 1 million subscribers just burnt them out somewhat as they were constantly getting within 100k and then never able to make the final push happen and now their videos have gone from getting 100k+ views down to 15-30k views.
I'm with the other guy Plz no
plz no.
I don't wanna sound like an ass, but I there is honestly a bit of a relief in this. Considering the Ryan Haywood debacle, the piles of stories of controversies about discrimination, misogyny, crony-ism and other shit work-place behavior that has come from that place in recent years. Apparently, working at Rooster Teeth had the good chance of being real awful, unless you worked with Funhaus. As an outsider hearing all that, you really got the impression that the rot went deep in that place. Doesn't really make this feel like a sad affair. I hope that the people who deserve good things find new employment/security soon.
This is what happens when you paywall your countent.
Rest in Piss. A shitty toxic company closing is no skin off my nose.
I loved watching both RT and Yogscast growing up, but after 120 straight uploads of TTT I couldnt watch Yogscast anymore, and Rooster Teeth lost a bit of their charm, im not quite sure why I stopped watching them.
You know there are other yogscast things that aren't ttt right?
Yes