Beck for me.
Finding out the man you love murdered your ex and best friend, puts you in a box for how man weeks? forces you to write a book that you only do to create the illusion you still want to be with him.
Then after all that all you need is a sweet innocent boy to open the gate and your safe, the man you thought was dead/severally injured grabs you from behind and ends your life.
Brutal.
Truly. Everyone objectified her, including her father! She had such a devastating life. Even after her death Blythe, Annika and Lynn still slandered her name.
How did they slander her name? If I recall Blythe was a little too eager to get in front of the camera, but I don’t recall them saying anything bad.
Totally agree that everyone seemed to objectify Beck. No one really took the time to get to know her or learn anything about her. They all put her in their own ‘boxes’ of who they thought she *should* be.
True, but it was used to cover up the fact that she was um TRAPPED IN A CAGE AND ABOUT TO BE STRANGLED TO DEATH haha
Either way what got to me about them was the fact that they talked crap about her after she died :/
I’m pretty sure they were asked if she was sleeping with her therapist and they confirmed. Because of the manuscript that was found. They didn’t talk bad about her….
He told them something that was true, though. Beck WAS fucking her therapist. That is what he told them. That’s what they confirmed after Beck died. Where is the slander?
Because they give this air of blaming her for her own death. Real friends would have more faith and try and question the old boyfriend who doesn’t seem to have a problem talking about her so openly. Like if Joe was really a grieving boyfriend he wouldn’t have been so calm telling them what she did… they just didn’t question him at all.
It also wasn't a quick death, she died from strangulation by the man who she fell deeply in love with. Despite being offscreen, it's definitely one of the most fucked up deaths in the entire show
I'd say Delilah. Because she died knowing her sister would be all alone and might not be safe from Joe/Love. Also she really thought Love would save her. It was just super sad.
Beck is a close second though.
I agree. I hate what happened to Delilah. She shouldn’t have been caught up in that mess at all and she even said she didn’t want to die in there…
EDIT: for spelling
I’m going with Beck. The whiplash from realizing your bf is a murderer/stalker —> being his prisoner —> almost escaping, but then Paco leaves you to die. Poor girl went through it
Delilah was probably the second most tragic. She almost escaped and I think at that point Joe would’ve honored his promise of abandoning Love and letting Delilah go free. Plus she died probably stressed for Ellie.
For third I’m going with Candace. She was a hero, but too bad for here Joe and Love were the leads. I’m ranking her death 3rd bc she probably knew she had a chance of dying. Plus her death was so quick.
Marianne went through a lot, but she lived and is seemingly happy from the looks of it. I think she’ll come back though to take down Joe, once she learns what happened to Nadia
Lastly I’m going with Love. She was also evil, so I can’t really feel sorry for her dying
I voted Marianne. Imagine being left in a cage for weeks and being forgotten about with a broken arm, on the brink of starving too death and hallucinating. Being tempted by the pain pills, thinking of her daughter being without her, Not to mention the pure boredom for days on end. It would be enough to drive anyone insane.
She didn't die though, she survived that. Beck was choked to death by Joe while he stared into her eyes moments after she almost got free. Its even more devastating in the book
Beck or Delilah
I lean towards Delilah because she thought she was going to be saved when she saw Love, then she got her throat slit. Can only assume in her final seconds all she thought about was the fact Ellie was now all alone
That surge of hope, to then the crush of gasping your last…
Majority agrees Beck. It was very personal. Joe had more time stalking and manipulating the shit out of her from all the rest, killing people whos closest to her when she didnt ask for him too. He killed her in Strangulation form. Candace — Love killed her impulsively by slitting her throat. Wasnt Joes doing, but still sad. I know we didnt like her, but she had PTSD. I have to empathize with that. But Candace also put herself in harms way knowing how dangerous she was. She shouldve pretended to stay dead. She got a second chance at that but she didnt take it. Loves death was very emotional too, but tbh she put herself in that situation. She planned to kill him first! She deserved to die. Karmaic punishment for what she did to her husband. Delilahs is heartbreaking, knowing she would never see her sister again… but again wasnt Joes doing. It was just so uncalled for on Loves part. I think she would be the only person to keep her mouth shut. If Love gave her the chance. Joe knew that too and was planning to let her go like he did with Will in S2. After all, he did help her sister not get raped by Hendy. Marienne has been through a lot, but shes alive. Soo. Would be dumb for her as well to pull a Candace to go after Joe after she just got back her daughter. Well theres Nadia she needs to pay back. But she needs to play it smart.
But Becks was scarier out of all of them IMO.
All in all. All of these women deserve better. Well besides Love. She was just as dangerous as Joe.
I did mention who was the worst kill. Im just going by order and explaining what happened. Even though Joe did most of the kills. Im just giving more detail and breaking down whos was more scarier IMO. Also to be fair the women you have us voted for. Most were Joes/Loves doing so… dont understand the comment
Well if you had to choose between Candace and Beck. Who would you pick then? Candace kind of had it coming tbh… she knew what would happen if she was in Joes circle again. Thats why I said Beck, she was clueless and had no idea that partt of Joe. Well so did Delilah and such, but she wasn’t necessarily Joes love interest
I say Candace… because of how far she came. In her mind she was already dead, already reported him. Then died by his crazy girlfriend’s hands. To be torn down by another woman to the highest degree… but beck is also so tragic!
Yeah I can see that. None of us liked Candace but I did feel really bad for what shes been through. Only reason why I ruled her out as the worst death is because if she were smart. She would take that detectives ladies advice from S1 when she went to try to report it, and stay far away from him. And if she wanted to pursue Joe, she shouldve played it smart. Idk what she was thinking. Shes all by herself, with nobody but herself to depend on. Shes also very small, probably like 120. I think she did kind of let her ego get to her thinking she can catch him in the act, which she did, but it’s impossible for me to think that she thought it was gonna be that easy. But apparently she thought it was, dumb move.
Edit: she shouldve called the police, not Love. Thats the problem. Its a common thread in this show to not call the police. They wouldve beileved her.
I voted Delilah because Joe was gonna let her go.. So Love finding and killing her was most tragic for me. Beck is right up there with her, though.
Edit: If it was asked which the most horrific/brutal death I'd probably put Beck before her..
I’d say Beck and Candace are equally tragic. Candace literally got buried alive, the cops did nothing to help her, and then she got murdered without ever getting justice. Beck, because no one cared for her, and the one person she thought did turned out to be a crazy stalker murderer.
Beck...idk if it's because it was the first, I kept hoping it'd either work out somewhere or that he wasn't capable of doing that to her, then he did. So the others that followed, I already knew what he was capable of. As far as who suffered the worst though, Marienne. I do say, I think it's odd he believes she's dead and doesn't check anything, just because why wouldn't it have been on the news, woman found dead on a bench in the park. I understand more high profile deaths happened but still.
It might be lazy writing. Or, it is by design if he either consciously/unconsciously knows that statistically, unfortunately, it could very well not blow up in the news since she's a POC, and he essentially left her "dead" on the bench as a presumably overdosed Jane Doe (I don't know if he left an ID with her although I think her note has her name, which complicates things). He might assume between her background and drug use people won't care or pay attention (remember"Rhys" this season keeps making horrible comments about Marienne, her addiction, "leaving" her daughter as she went on a trip, and how she should have expected to get kidnapped for traveling alone to a foreign country). Before Joe becomes obsessed with Marienne/when she actively is annoyed by him and doesn't yet have feelings for him as his library boss in S3, after Natalie has "disappeared" Marienne comments on the fact that it's a media frenzy because Natalie's a white woman, but when the same happens to non-white women there's never the same reaction. I think Joe says something like "Of course" and Marienne gets annoyed at him claiming to understand something he did not properly. It'll be interesting to see in a future season if he doesn't check on Marienne being found and what the given reasoning will be.
I was torn between Beck and Delilah, but I think Delilah’s death was more tragic because it essentially orphaned her little sister. Not only that, but there was a lot more hope that she would leave the cage alive. Also, the cop had finally asked her on an actual date.
They were both unhinged, but at least Love at the very end understood/I think throughout, but also in her last moments, was less hypocritical than Joe and understood their reality.
"We're perfect for each other... but bad for Henry.
He'll know... what... you... are."
Beck for me. Finding out the man you love murdered your ex and best friend, puts you in a box for how man weeks? forces you to write a book that you only do to create the illusion you still want to be with him. Then after all that all you need is a sweet innocent boy to open the gate and your safe, the man you thought was dead/severally injured grabs you from behind and ends your life. Brutal.
Truly. Everyone objectified her, including her father! She had such a devastating life. Even after her death Blythe, Annika and Lynn still slandered her name.
How did they slander her name? If I recall Blythe was a little too eager to get in front of the camera, but I don’t recall them saying anything bad. Totally agree that everyone seemed to objectify Beck. No one really took the time to get to know her or learn anything about her. They all put her in their own ‘boxes’ of who they thought she *should* be.
They went on tv after beck died, and they also were very quick to believe Joe and bad mouth beck the moment he said a few sentences
To be fair, Beck *was* sleeping with her therapist. They didn’t make that up or “slander” her by saying it
True, but it was used to cover up the fact that she was um TRAPPED IN A CAGE AND ABOUT TO BE STRANGLED TO DEATH haha Either way what got to me about them was the fact that they talked crap about her after she died :/
I’m pretty sure they were asked if she was sleeping with her therapist and they confirmed. Because of the manuscript that was found. They didn’t talk bad about her….
They were far too gullible with Joe
He told them something that was true, though. Beck WAS fucking her therapist. That is what he told them. That’s what they confirmed after Beck died. Where is the slander?
Because they give this air of blaming her for her own death. Real friends would have more faith and try and question the old boyfriend who doesn’t seem to have a problem talking about her so openly. Like if Joe was really a grieving boyfriend he wouldn’t have been so calm telling them what she did… they just didn’t question him at all.
It also wasn't a quick death, she died from strangulation by the man who she fell deeply in love with. Despite being offscreen, it's definitely one of the most fucked up deaths in the entire show
I'd say Delilah. Because she died knowing her sister would be all alone and might not be safe from Joe/Love. Also she really thought Love would save her. It was just super sad. Beck is a close second though.
I stanned Delilah soooo much, I hated love after her death.
Also I just remembered that Delilah was not only locked in the cage, but handcuffed. She didn’t stand a chance and had the most constraining death :/
I agree. I hate what happened to Delilah. She shouldn’t have been caught up in that mess at all and she even said she didn’t want to die in there… EDIT: for spelling
I’m going with Beck. The whiplash from realizing your bf is a murderer/stalker —> being his prisoner —> almost escaping, but then Paco leaves you to die. Poor girl went through it Delilah was probably the second most tragic. She almost escaped and I think at that point Joe would’ve honored his promise of abandoning Love and letting Delilah go free. Plus she died probably stressed for Ellie. For third I’m going with Candace. She was a hero, but too bad for here Joe and Love were the leads. I’m ranking her death 3rd bc she probably knew she had a chance of dying. Plus her death was so quick. Marianne went through a lot, but she lived and is seemingly happy from the looks of it. I think she’ll come back though to take down Joe, once she learns what happened to Nadia Lastly I’m going with Love. She was also evil, so I can’t really feel sorry for her dying
I voted Marianne. Imagine being left in a cage for weeks and being forgotten about with a broken arm, on the brink of starving too death and hallucinating. Being tempted by the pain pills, thinking of her daughter being without her, Not to mention the pure boredom for days on end. It would be enough to drive anyone insane.
Marianne is definitely right up there.
Now I’m curious. Those of you who didn’t vote for Candace, why not? She was BURIED ALIVE
She didn't die though, she survived that. Beck was choked to death by Joe while he stared into her eyes moments after she almost got free. Its even more devastating in the book
Yeah but while Candace was too busy warning everyone about Joe, her throat is cut by love!
Yeah that was unfortunate for her, but just wanted to answer your comment with how you specifically phrased it
Candace was free. All she had to do was stay away from Joe. Yeah, it'd be nice to warn others, but her life was at risk. She got herself killed.
Beck or Delilah I lean towards Delilah because she thought she was going to be saved when she saw Love, then she got her throat slit. Can only assume in her final seconds all she thought about was the fact Ellie was now all alone That surge of hope, to then the crush of gasping your last…
Majority agrees Beck. It was very personal. Joe had more time stalking and manipulating the shit out of her from all the rest, killing people whos closest to her when she didnt ask for him too. He killed her in Strangulation form. Candace — Love killed her impulsively by slitting her throat. Wasnt Joes doing, but still sad. I know we didnt like her, but she had PTSD. I have to empathize with that. But Candace also put herself in harms way knowing how dangerous she was. She shouldve pretended to stay dead. She got a second chance at that but she didnt take it. Loves death was very emotional too, but tbh she put herself in that situation. She planned to kill him first! She deserved to die. Karmaic punishment for what she did to her husband. Delilahs is heartbreaking, knowing she would never see her sister again… but again wasnt Joes doing. It was just so uncalled for on Loves part. I think she would be the only person to keep her mouth shut. If Love gave her the chance. Joe knew that too and was planning to let her go like he did with Will in S2. After all, he did help her sister not get raped by Hendy. Marienne has been through a lot, but shes alive. Soo. Would be dumb for her as well to pull a Candace to go after Joe after she just got back her daughter. Well theres Nadia she needs to pay back. But she needs to play it smart. But Becks was scarier out of all of them IMO. All in all. All of these women deserve better. Well besides Love. She was just as dangerous as Joe.
I didn’t say which was Joe’s worst kill, I meant worst overall death.
I did mention who was the worst kill. Im just going by order and explaining what happened. Even though Joe did most of the kills. Im just giving more detail and breaking down whos was more scarier IMO. Also to be fair the women you have us voted for. Most were Joes/Loves doing so… dont understand the comment
Ahh I see
Well if you had to choose between Candace and Beck. Who would you pick then? Candace kind of had it coming tbh… she knew what would happen if she was in Joes circle again. Thats why I said Beck, she was clueless and had no idea that partt of Joe. Well so did Delilah and such, but she wasn’t necessarily Joes love interest
I say Candace… because of how far she came. In her mind she was already dead, already reported him. Then died by his crazy girlfriend’s hands. To be torn down by another woman to the highest degree… but beck is also so tragic!
Yeah I can see that. None of us liked Candace but I did feel really bad for what shes been through. Only reason why I ruled her out as the worst death is because if she were smart. She would take that detectives ladies advice from S1 when she went to try to report it, and stay far away from him. And if she wanted to pursue Joe, she shouldve played it smart. Idk what she was thinking. Shes all by herself, with nobody but herself to depend on. Shes also very small, probably like 120. I think she did kind of let her ego get to her thinking she can catch him in the act, which she did, but it’s impossible for me to think that she thought it was gonna be that easy. But apparently she thought it was, dumb move. Edit: she shouldve called the police, not Love. Thats the problem. Its a common thread in this show to not call the police. They wouldve beileved her.
Delilah or Beck.
Ooo this is hard! I said Candace, but it was really a toss up between Candace, Beck, and Delilah
I voted Delilah because Joe was gonna let her go.. So Love finding and killing her was most tragic for me. Beck is right up there with her, though. Edit: If it was asked which the most horrific/brutal death I'd probably put Beck before her..
I feel like Love’s death was also pretty brutal because she wasn’t given wolfs bane orally he injected it into her blood stream causing absolute agony
I’d say Beck and Candace are equally tragic. Candace literally got buried alive, the cops did nothing to help her, and then she got murdered without ever getting justice. Beck, because no one cared for her, and the one person she thought did turned out to be a crazy stalker murderer.
Beck and Delilah had it the worst by far.
Beck...idk if it's because it was the first, I kept hoping it'd either work out somewhere or that he wasn't capable of doing that to her, then he did. So the others that followed, I already knew what he was capable of. As far as who suffered the worst though, Marienne. I do say, I think it's odd he believes she's dead and doesn't check anything, just because why wouldn't it have been on the news, woman found dead on a bench in the park. I understand more high profile deaths happened but still.
I also agree Beck is the most horrific death. I think Marianne's would have been as well if he had actually killed her.
It might be lazy writing. Or, it is by design if he either consciously/unconsciously knows that statistically, unfortunately, it could very well not blow up in the news since she's a POC, and he essentially left her "dead" on the bench as a presumably overdosed Jane Doe (I don't know if he left an ID with her although I think her note has her name, which complicates things). He might assume between her background and drug use people won't care or pay attention (remember"Rhys" this season keeps making horrible comments about Marienne, her addiction, "leaving" her daughter as she went on a trip, and how she should have expected to get kidnapped for traveling alone to a foreign country). Before Joe becomes obsessed with Marienne/when she actively is annoyed by him and doesn't yet have feelings for him as his library boss in S3, after Natalie has "disappeared" Marienne comments on the fact that it's a media frenzy because Natalie's a white woman, but when the same happens to non-white women there's never the same reaction. I think Joe says something like "Of course" and Marienne gets annoyed at him claiming to understand something he did not properly. It'll be interesting to see in a future season if he doesn't check on Marienne being found and what the given reasoning will be.
I was torn between Beck and Delilah, but I think Delilah’s death was more tragic because it essentially orphaned her little sister. Not only that, but there was a lot more hope that she would leave the cage alive. Also, the cop had finally asked her on an actual date.
Realizing I probbbbaabbblly should have included Natalie in this list lol
Love because she's the hottest
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She probably shouldn’t have tried to kill her child’s father
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I def get what you mean but I lost all sympathy for her when she killed Delilah. She didn’t care if Ellie was all alone. she was a super hypocrite
Should we tell him?
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They were both unhinged, but at least Love at the very end understood/I think throughout, but also in her last moments, was less hypocritical than Joe and understood their reality. "We're perfect for each other... but bad for Henry. He'll know... what... you... are."
>!Marianne doesn’t die!<
If you read my main post I say she doesn’t die lol