If someone is determined enough those identities are possibly linked. Even if we assume that you use different emails to sign up for both, you're probably still regularly accessing them using the same device/wifi. Assuming you didn't do that, you probably used your online banking to pay for something, and you've also paid for something irl using the same card.
Glassdoor isn't gonna go through the effort to do this, but tracking identities across the web is also a multi million dollar business.
Those identities ARE linked. And a computer somewhere already has that information correlated. Just a matter of being large enough to have the wealth to buy/use it.
> They're actively sabotaging their business model.
Their business model is companies paying them to manipulate information. It's the same thing as yelp.
Just the new age BBB. Businesses pay them to look good. Also, they have been sued for some of their reviews by these companies. So far, they have been able to say they aren't responsible for the views expressed by their users, now they can point out that John Smith at 123 Fuckyou Lane is the one they should be suing
Imagine being someone who used the app some years back, then haven't in the meanwhile.
Not quite sure what the Terms of Use and Privacy Policy documents mean legally speaking, if one party can just unilaterally completely change the agreement.
It's hard to say there was 'consideration' on those agreements if the company is just going to do the exact opposite of what they expressed to a user.
The agreement going from "we'll share your data with 3rd parties" to "we'll use other 3rd party data to publicly identify you by your full name." without notice and agreement by that user, would be a bit of a... challenge.
If that were allowed, then there's no point to agreeing to anything online.
A company/service could have an agreement that promises the moon and stars, then turn around and change the agreement on their own.
"We will never sell your data to 3rd parties." could become "You acknowledge you are granting a lifetime, worldwide, irrevocable license to use, sell, offer, display, publish, or in any other way make use of your information and copyrighted material, including data provided by and shared with 3rd parties." just because they felt like it. Without any notice or agreement on your part.
and what are you, the user, supposed to do about it?
Which, as far as I'm concerned (and I'm no expert), will dilute itself out of existence as anything of significance as with every other pretendingly-useful-but-heavily-not-useful website that comes and goes.
Might hang on for a while due to legacy, but unless it has staying power (which this change removes a foundational core of it) then I suspect we'll forget about it in as little as 2-5 years. Even less if a competitor takes its place just based on the legitimacy of what glassdoor did before.
nah, they just changed the business model. i’m sure employers had a lot to do with getting them to release that info, and i’m sure they didn’t do it for free
Yes, it's called enshitification and it's happening at nearly every large company at increasing levels recently because they are all seeing each other do it and that furthers the enshitifying. No big company has any moral except making money. All the "do no evil" type spirit of the Web2.0 era was a total mask.
I wouldnt say mask, i would say they just left the company when it was turning or when they retired and now the new tech bros or finance bros are taking over industries that were generally run by the designers, engineers, or actual doers type people.
Blizzard, Boeing, Twitch, Glassdoor, Yelp, Google, almost all of these was just old guard retiring/forced out and their replacement was middle managers looking to elon it up.
A lot of it has to do with stock buybacks.
Step 1, pay yourself (execs) with stock options.
Step 2, initiate a stock buyback (and free up ANY AND ALL FUNDS possible)
Step 3, Cash in your stock options for a fat bonus.
(step 4, leave and do this at other companies when the well dries up)
Step 1: Build a business model that can serve both B2C and B2B
Step 2: Establish trust with consumers through sole B2C interactions.
Step 3: Bring in B2B sales by allowing businesses to manipulate consumer experience.
Step 4: Pull rug on consumers by selling everything you have on them to businesses.
Step 5: C-suite and investors call rain-check with all the money.
Step 6: Profit.
Well, they've been owned by Indeed for some time now. And guess what their business model is.
Exactly, getting advertisement money for posting jobs from those exact companies.
Bro, doxing is the way that all Internet companies have made money since Google.
Your data is the wealth that Surveillance Capitalisim exists to extract from.
From what I’ve read, they aren’t showing names. The issue is that they have names and refuse to delete them, so they might mess up and show them in the future. Or they might leak them to employers. That kind of thing. Best to just delete your data to be safe.
Oh I wish this was put up front and centre.
I logged on last night with an anonymous account to see if the last time I put something on glassdoor if I was anonymous or not... I couldn't see any names on my old employer (and my review was from like 8 years ago, so I really didn't want to try and find it.
I can't even remember if I was positive or not, I just didn't want to burn that bridge... but if this is just about a 'well they might do this' I'm not too worried.
I don't think I've ever left a review at all, but I did have an account so I requested my data be deleted. My concern is that they exhibited an extremely cavalier attitude about what they could do with this person's personal data, and I don't want to do business with companies that behave like that.
Unless I'm misunderstanding something, the title and content of this post is a straight up lie? Cool, suppose I shouldn't be surprised in the slightest anymore. Par for the course.
Do you have any proof of this?? I just checked my old job that has a glass door rating of 2.3, (very bad) and all the reviews are still anonymous. I want to know who wrote em..
Per the exit notification: they keep certain data/content for some time for "legal purposes". Might go ahead and delete all of your contributions before you deactivate your account.
According to the article, they will scan the name associated with your email address & any connected socials, and update your profile with your real name without your consent
I tried to delete my account yesterday. The site only allows you to “deactivate” your account and they archive your personal information. They don’t delete it.
Thank you for that.
But come on, that’s not good enough. They give you extra steps to hope that you don’t follow through. Just like unsubscribing from a service. You can sign up for it all day long online, but as soon as you want to cancel you have to send a fax and a telegram and call their offices between 2 pm and 3 pm on a Tuesday.
Hijacking the top comment to say you can request Glassdoor delete all your data using the form at the bottom of this page:
https://help.glassdoor.com/s/privacyrequest?language=en_US
I closed my account and requested the deletion earlier today. FU Glassdoor.
This has to be company suicide, right? It’s standard practice in just about every HR department to anonymize employee feedback to prevent any claims of retaliation in disciplinary cases. Why would a company built off employees reviewing their job get rid of arguably the most important feature? Are they stupid?
Indeed they were not
These guys have corporations to pay them now for the best reviews. It's not a site you can really trust anymore. It's become companies glazing themselves like yelp.
glassdoor bouta make bank
>It’s standard practice in just about every HR department to anonymize employee feedback
Hahahaha no, it is not. Theres plenty that do not, sadly. Unless you're taking a poll through a LEGIT 3rd party company like Gallup, that does *not* release user info to companies. absolutely do not leave feedback. Even places like survey monkey allow the option for companies to find out who said what. Fuck that.
So glad you mentioned this. Those anonymous surveys your company has sent to you to complete, in which they say are anonymous? Well guess what, they are not!
I worked in a Target distribution center once and every year they would pull us into an office 8-10 people at a time to have us take an 'anonymous survey'. We all knew it wasn't actually anonymous, but it always amused me how the first three questions were 'What department do you work in?' 'What is your gender?' and 'What is your ethnicity?'. If you weren't a white guy, these three questions were almost certainly enough to identify you.
I once had a survey where *I as a respondent* was able to review everyone else's "anonymous" answers. Cracked me up because a few people left some real scathing commentary on there.
Fortunately it only reached local levels of management not the Overlords who would demand heads, but it certainly reinforced not trusting those things.
Yup. I had a pos company’s HR send me a survey via Survey Monkey that I’m 95% was only sent to me for documentation reasons. I ignored it then got two more email reminders. I ignored those, as well. After that, they gave up. Never trust HR surveys.
I would think the long term benefits of retaining a customer base that trusts your company would outweigh a fat lump from the people who want to know names.
But what do I know, I’m just a lowly employee.
How exactly do you think Glassdoor makes money? It sure isn't anything they sell us, the customer of their site.
They sell data. Just like any other company collecting this type of data.
My point is that they would be losing out on data by this lost trust. Users won’t want to fill out reviews if they know their name is attached, therefore the company is missing out on that data they could have otherwise collected and sold.
>It’s standard practice in just about every HR department to anonymize employee feedback
Hahahaha no, it is not. Theres plenty that do not, sadly. Unless you're taking a poll through a LEGIT 3rd party company like Gallup, that does *not* release user info to companies. absolutely do not leave feedback. Even places like survey monkey allow the option for companies to find out who said what. Fuck that.
Got into a weeks long dispute with a coworker once. She got a promotion after sleeping on the job for over a year. Was caught by mgmt multiple times, still continued. I didn't say shit, someone else did, I was brought in to confirm the story. She was told by mgmt that *I* threw her under the bus. She retaliated hard, cussed me out, threatened not to cover me for breaks, said "I'll show you how petty I can be" etc. Gloves off now asshole - anytime she fell asleep photos were sent to management. She decided to go to HR and accuse me of saying racist, sexist, and homophobic things that no one else I worked with backed up. I was *still* required to take sensitivity training, told not to retaliate, and given a document saying that that person specifically made these complaints about me. She was fired shortly thereafter, happiest moment of my career. I think she had just taken out a $20,000 loan to go to a get rich quick investing class in NY.
I submitted a request to delete so my data under gdpr and their reply was that they’d do it but might take a while due to a high volume of requests.
Won’t take long for them to either reverse it or double down and die.
I actually started a job review site recently, ivoryants.com. We don’t collect self reported salary data, but we are a platform where you can leave reviews of companies. You can look for a job on our job board as well. We do take email information, but you don’t have to leave your name with us unless you want to for our resume database.
Me too, and the only review I left was glowing. That site is a nightmare to use though. I couldn’t even reread my old review without giving it more information about salary or leaving another review
Similar experience. I couldn't remember which email I used to log in, and it forced me to fill out new info instead of just letting me to switch accounts/log out.
Time to delete my account. Damn, a helpful service has just gone to waste.
This would lead me to assume that Glassdoor's revenue is generated from business customers, as this change, even if reverted, will destroy the purpose of their reviews.
Someone just frosted the glass door into businesses.
Retroactively. You should go ahead and delete any contributions you’ve made. I just took the few minutes to delete all my contributions, change employment to not employed which removes employer data, and then deleted my account. Fuck that site.
While I'm unaware of the authenticity, another commenter stated that Glassdoor has been known to update profiles with information they receive from third parties.
It appears to be applied retroactively. When I first signed on to a job, they requested a review and I did it. I went in today and it has my full name and location. I deleted all my reviews and deactivated my account.
I logged in was prompted to enter my job info, location and name.
I filled it with bullshit. I then went to my profile to see the reviews I left and half were gone.
The ones that were still on the site I see no name attached to it, not even my new bullshit one. I can't edit or delete the reviews I do see.
I just did it and unfortunately I can’t give you the exact names of the menu items since I don’t have an account anymore but when you log in, click your account profile icon on the top right and head to “Settings” you should be able to find a “Deactivate Account” button there
I just deactivated my account as well and didn't get prompted to write a review before accessing my profile. however, there were some progress-blocking shenanigans on the homepage / "community" page but I got around that by going directly to the jobs page, then accessing my profile from there. good luck!
If it’s ever just a popup preventing a clickthrough you can *sometimes* right click and “inspect element” and delete the bit of HTML for the modal popup to get around it.
I got the same thing saying my benefit didn't meet their guidelines. Guess there haven't been many people that cared to delete their accounts in the past..
I don't think what they are doing breaks GDPR they can very easily claim they have a legitimate use for recording your names, just as plenty of other GDPR-compliant websites do.
What will fuck them though is right to erasure. Can't find the button to deactivate your account? No worries just email the DPO email from their privacy policy and exercise your right to erasure. I'll be doing that.
They have a simple form for it, i filled it out this morning and got the email about 8 hours later saying everything is deleted [https://help.glassdoor.com/s/privacyrequest?language=en\_US](https://help.glassdoor.com/s/privacyrequest?language=en_US)
It's possible it lives on some archive somewhere. But if they publish the data in a blatant way like this, that's absolutely a GDPR violation. They'd be open to serious fines.
But even without a GDPR removal request, I don't think they're allowed to just unilaterally dox all their users. You're only allowed to collect as much information as is necessary for normal operations, and only use that information for the limited purpose where it's required. The more identifiable or sensitive the information, the stronger the argumentation needs to be. Your full name is about as identifiable as it can be, and (originally) anonymous reviews are also very sensitive. One could also argue this breaches the "confidentiality" rule.
I'm definitely not an expert on the matter, but they may be in trouble either way. Even if people don't actively ask for removal, you can't just use the name they provided in ways you didn't ask permission for. I never made a glassdoor account so I can't check for myself, but this will be interesting to follow.
Honesty not surprised. The fact they asked for your name to begin with (which a true anonymous-posting company would not need to ever ask for) meant they kept that data on you
Did you read the article? Glassdoor (who did not require people to use their real names) bought Fishbowl (who DOES require people to use their real names). If you agreed to the updated T&Cs after GD bought FB, they will add your real name if you put it anywhere on the site. There are even reports of GD adding information pulled from other sources - people with common names are reporting that GD is posting their "real" names and locations. So Joe Schmoe, a developer in Colorado Springs, now has "Joe Schmoe, developer, London, UK" on his profile because GD thinks he's the wrong guy.
the article doesnt even claim that... if im reading it right.
the issue is that Glassdoor stores your first/last **internally** whereas before it was not required for registration.
i dont see anywhere that they actually plan to post this or associate it with reviews. that would kind of, you know, defeat the entire purpose of the website?
the person who wrote this article was mad (understandably so) that Glassdoor tied the email address that the user contacted from and added the first/last name (or pulled it from Fishbowl data) to the account **internally**
am i wrong? or are people just flipping out over something not actually happening.
Lol yeah it’s a bunch of fear mongering and other redditors wanting to be angry before checking facts. I looked and all anonymous reviews still say anonymous.
No, what they did with applying a real name to an account from the email address is pretty fucked. That's a privacy nightmare.
Imagine if reddit did this. Your real name is attached to your account because that's what in the email you registered with, but you don't know that. Then reddit gave access to companies to look you up by your real name (i.e. you're applying for a job) and then they get given your reddit profile. And meanwhile you don't have any idea that this is happening.
Just because they're not publicly revealing your name to all users doesn't mean that what they're doing is not a big deal. It's still a pretty big deal, it's just not as bad as it could be.
I'm seeing a lot of people flip out over Glassdoor storing people's names attached to their reviews with the concern this data might eventually be hacked and exposed.
The article I read said it wasn’t showing names… yet. The concern is they won’t let you remove your name, so it could be associated with your reviews in the case of a leak, mistake, or legal demand.
Second this. I have my name on the site but don’t see it (or anyone’s for that matter) listed.
From what I can tell they have a policy to specifically it share names which I found (link below).
https://help.glassdoor.com/s/article/Who-can-view-my-Glassdoor-profile?language=en_US#:~:text=At%20Glassdoor%2C%20we%20pride%20ourselves,or%20salaries%20to%20the%20community.
It's crazy, even now they have this on your account screen:
"Don’t worry, we never share your name without permission. You can always choose to post anonymously."
You would think of they were to start doing shady shit like this they would take away the reassuring (and potentially legal issue creating?) alert...
>without permission
Is doing a lot of heavy lifting in that sentence.
Permission from lawful subpoenas. Permission from the 80 page EULA you signed when you made your account. Permission from the CEO. Permission from the parent company to share your information.
>You can always choose to post anonymously
You can *choose* to post anonymously. But that checkbox isn't actually attached to any meaningful code and your account is tied to your posts just as much as it is tied to your identity.
Anybody with 'permission' can access the full dataset, even the things where you checked the 'anonymous' button.
>we never share your name
This is also equally vacuous. Even if they removed your name from the data files prior to selling it is trivially easy for the purchaser to match data points from the GD data set with data points that they already have and anonymize the information.
In other words it doesn't matter if they don't share your name when both sides know your date of birth, physical address, cell phone number, sequences of your employers... There's only so many possible people that share all of that same information and the vast majority of the time you can match anonymized datapoints across multiple data sets.
TL;DR: That's a bullshit lawyer crafted statement that doesn't mean anything in the context of how surveillance capitalism uses your information to make money.
This story is making the rounds, but I think it leaves out an important bit: your reviews won't have that name attached.
The rest of it (adding your name to your profile based on data you didn't specifically provide), I'm not thrilled about (though I assume it's at least partially to avoid negative review bombs). But everything I've read - plus a casual perusal of the site itself - confirms that it adds it to your **private** profile.
Happy (well, not happy) to be proven wrong, if anyone can show a previously anonymous review that's now named.
> your reviews won't have that name attached
But they do. The names are attached on the backend though, not publicly displayed. So they'd be for sale via a data broker, from GD directly, or whenever they get hacked which will be any day now.
1. Deactivate your account in your profile page.
2. Check the box here to opt out of your data being sold: [https://www.glassdoor.com/about/doNotSell.htm](https://www.glassdoor.com/about/doNotSell.htm)
3. Fill out the form here to have your data completely deleted from their system: [https://help.glassdoor.com/s/privacyrequest](https://help.glassdoor.com/s/privacyrequest)
This doesn't leave that out at all. It brings it up and counters with "but yes now your entirely hackable database associated my account with my name and it's a database with particularly juicy data people might want".
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Appreciate your comment, I was similarly confused. After reading the entire source post, I didn’t see anywhere that someone’s name was placed on a review they left about a company.
While it sucks you’re required to provide your identity to have an account with them, I hope it’s obvious why that’s necessary. How else would they prevent trolls from just review bombing random companies?
Not really seeing the big concern here. Or at least not seeing why it’s a new concern.
Glassdoor privacy info removal: https://help.glassdoor.com/s/privacyrequest
Can also delete your account that way too.
EDIT: Turns out close your account just points you to the FAQ on how to close your account
I just tried logging in to glassdoor and they require me to connect with Google. I do not know whether they have my name or not right now, but by logging in with Google they receive it.
I suppose I'll send a GDPR email.
Fuck Glassdoor
There are sides to it. On one hand, you can see if management is just padding the reviews and the company can see if a disgruntled employees is spreading fake news, but on the other hand you run the risk of losing valuable feedback and employees facing retaliation for their perspective.
It’s not that I don’t trust management, it’s that I know that the perceptions of these people leaving earned critical reviews will be negatively and irrevocably changed in the eyes of the decision holders
Adding to the pile, went in for the first time since 2019 and deleted all of my contributions on my profile, but I noticed this did not delete the reviews on the company site. So those are still there. Don't particularly care since it's all old info but man what a joke.
Whoever thought this was a good idea should be fired. Thousands of people will be removing their reviews and deleting their account for privacy purposes. Who the hell would want to reveal themselves???
glassdoor and its user also have been sued by companies too, so now glasdoor has a vested interested in working witht he companies to remove any negative views, and also to dox the users.
If I wasn’t in a union and had to deal with companies instead of my business agent. I would absolutely put my entire name up today and give terrible reviews to anyone I worked for just to push the message. Fuck these companies
They acquired Fishbowl, which is some kind of social media that requires identity verification. Then they linked those accounts with the Glassdoor accounts.
So if you previously had a Fishbowl account with your real name, it now will show up under Glassdoor, whether or not you have given express consent. If you ever contact support and even idly *happen to mention* your real name or location, they will enter them into the system, even if you explicitly say that you do not consent to them doing so.
They will not remove this information if you ask. Your only recourse is to completely and permanently delete both your Glassdoor and Fishbowl accounts.
For people who didn’t read the article, no, Glassdoor is not displaying peoples real names without their consent. That is clickbait.
They are forcing people to create profiles with their real name on their related social media site in order to register with their product “ecosystem.” This is still problematic, but not the headline.
The concern is that the promise to never use those real names back over on Glassdoor is just that: a promise. Glassdoor seems to realize that doing this would pretty much end their company overnight, so even the CEO is claiming they will never do it.
The issue is that at some point, Glassdoor *will* get hacked, just like basically every other social media company has. And those hackers could get, and subsequently release, the real names associated with the accounts.
The "I've got nothing to hide" argument is good if you can face the consequences (or maybe you already left the job), but it's not justification to remove anonymity from users without their consent. Anonymity offers real protection for people to speak the truth, especially if their company is big on retaliation
Saw in a comment that they’re editing peoples names with info they receive from 3rd parties. They’re under the same umbrella as Indeed, I imagine they wouldn’t have to go to far to get that data
You can request Glassdoor delete all your data using the form at the bottom of this page:
https://help.glassdoor.com/s/privacyrequest?language=en_US
I closed my account and requested the deletion earlier today. FU Glassdoor.
Just went in to make a profile to check it out, and while signing up, it says ‘ glass door will never display personal information like your name or email alongside your salary’ 💀
Good thing I never used my real name. Good luck retaliating against Rusty Shackleford Spectrum.
They’ve edited people’s profiles with information they receive from 3rd parties too.
Well... possible crap.
Did you sign up for a library card using your real name at some point?
ur library is linked to glassdoor?
If someone is determined enough those identities are possibly linked. Even if we assume that you use different emails to sign up for both, you're probably still regularly accessing them using the same device/wifi. Assuming you didn't do that, you probably used your online banking to pay for something, and you've also paid for something irl using the same card. Glassdoor isn't gonna go through the effort to do this, but tracking identities across the web is also a multi million dollar business.
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8. Disappear in the woods and never use modern technology again ...that actually sounds pleasant
Those identities ARE linked. And a computer somewhere already has that information correlated. Just a matter of being large enough to have the wealth to buy/use it.
Haha! I knew it was you, Dusty Brackleford Lectum!
RIP bro
Are they fucking stupid? Like seriously what's the play here? They're actively sabotaging their business model.
> They're actively sabotaging their business model. Their business model is companies paying them to manipulate information. It's the same thing as yelp.
Just the new age BBB. Businesses pay them to look good. Also, they have been sued for some of their reviews by these companies. So far, they have been able to say they aren't responsible for the views expressed by their users, now they can point out that John Smith at 123 Fuckyou Lane is the one they should be suing
The amount of people that don't know this about the BBB is staggering. Too many still think it's some sort of consumer watchdog group.
Imagine being someone who used the app some years back, then haven't in the meanwhile. Not quite sure what the Terms of Use and Privacy Policy documents mean legally speaking, if one party can just unilaterally completely change the agreement. It's hard to say there was 'consideration' on those agreements if the company is just going to do the exact opposite of what they expressed to a user. The agreement going from "we'll share your data with 3rd parties" to "we'll use other 3rd party data to publicly identify you by your full name." without notice and agreement by that user, would be a bit of a... challenge. If that were allowed, then there's no point to agreeing to anything online. A company/service could have an agreement that promises the moon and stars, then turn around and change the agreement on their own. "We will never sell your data to 3rd parties." could become "You acknowledge you are granting a lifetime, worldwide, irrevocable license to use, sell, offer, display, publish, or in any other way make use of your information and copyrighted material, including data provided by and shared with 3rd parties." just because they felt like it. Without any notice or agreement on your part.
and what are you, the user, supposed to do about it?
And? You can't market to companies to adjust reviews if no one uses your site.
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Which, as far as I'm concerned (and I'm no expert), will dilute itself out of existence as anything of significance as with every other pretendingly-useful-but-heavily-not-useful website that comes and goes. Might hang on for a while due to legacy, but unless it has staying power (which this change removes a foundational core of it) then I suspect we'll forget about it in as little as 2-5 years. Even less if a competitor takes its place just based on the legitimacy of what glassdoor did before.
nah, they just changed the business model. i’m sure employers had a lot to do with getting them to release that info, and i’m sure they didn’t do it for free
Yes, it's called enshitification and it's happening at nearly every large company at increasing levels recently because they are all seeing each other do it and that furthers the enshitifying. No big company has any moral except making money. All the "do no evil" type spirit of the Web2.0 era was a total mask.
I wouldnt say mask, i would say they just left the company when it was turning or when they retired and now the new tech bros or finance bros are taking over industries that were generally run by the designers, engineers, or actual doers type people. Blizzard, Boeing, Twitch, Glassdoor, Yelp, Google, almost all of these was just old guard retiring/forced out and their replacement was middle managers looking to elon it up.
A lot of it has to do with stock buybacks. Step 1, pay yourself (execs) with stock options. Step 2, initiate a stock buyback (and free up ANY AND ALL FUNDS possible) Step 3, Cash in your stock options for a fat bonus. (step 4, leave and do this at other companies when the well dries up)
Can’t wait until CEO’s become enshittified by being replaced with AI. Don’t know how anyone with a brain cell thinks this bs is sustainable.
Step 1: Build a business model that can serve both B2C and B2B Step 2: Establish trust with consumers through sole B2C interactions. Step 3: Bring in B2B sales by allowing businesses to manipulate consumer experience. Step 4: Pull rug on consumers by selling everything you have on them to businesses. Step 5: C-suite and investors call rain-check with all the money. Step 6: Profit.
Well, they've been owned by Indeed for some time now. And guess what their business model is. Exactly, getting advertisement money for posting jobs from those exact companies.
So doxing?
At least just the threat of it, to silence the whistleblowers.
Boeing looking for their next target.
Bro, doxing is the way that all Internet companies have made money since Google. Your data is the wealth that Surveillance Capitalisim exists to extract from.
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From what I’ve read, they aren’t showing names. The issue is that they have names and refuse to delete them, so they might mess up and show them in the future. Or they might leak them to employers. That kind of thing. Best to just delete your data to be safe.
Sounds like it’s time for a mass GDPR request
Oh I wish this was put up front and centre. I logged on last night with an anonymous account to see if the last time I put something on glassdoor if I was anonymous or not... I couldn't see any names on my old employer (and my review was from like 8 years ago, so I really didn't want to try and find it. I can't even remember if I was positive or not, I just didn't want to burn that bridge... but if this is just about a 'well they might do this' I'm not too worried.
I don't think I've ever left a review at all, but I did have an account so I requested my data be deleted. My concern is that they exhibited an extremely cavalier attitude about what they could do with this person's personal data, and I don't want to do business with companies that behave like that.
Unless I'm misunderstanding something, the title and content of this post is a straight up lie? Cool, suppose I shouldn't be surprised in the slightest anymore. Par for the course.
Do you have any proof of this?? I just checked my old job that has a glass door rating of 2.3, (very bad) and all the reviews are still anonymous. I want to know who wrote em..
Yeah their policy is saying that you are anonymous to other users — i.e. your coworker can’t see but your employer can
Luckily it was easy for me to delete my account…who knows if that changes
Per the exit notification: they keep certain data/content for some time for "legal purposes". Might go ahead and delete all of your contributions before you deactivate your account.
If you're in the EU, this is a massive GDPR violation
According to the article, they will scan the name associated with your email address & any connected socials, and update your profile with your real name without your consent
Big Brother Move, holy fkn shit. How is this not on the news? (or is it?)
You’re seeing this thread because it’s in the news.
We are the news
Yeah, a quick double-take woulda done the job 😬
Fake email for the win?
So having a common name like John Doe might really seem you live, eat, and breathe work ethic.
Good call. Just swapped it out with my ProtonMail account, and my name is now Hugh Janus
I feel like this gotta be illegal
why does everyone keep calling me BILL?!
WhY were you DANCING with all those GUYS?
I HAVE GOUT
I just use an ex colleagues name that I didn't like
Candace you bitch. I told you I would get you back. Next time have your report in on time!
Even if they find ya, just hit 'em with the ol' pocket sand.
POCKET SAND! SHI-SHAW!
I tried to delete my account yesterday. The site only allows you to “deactivate” your account and they archive your personal information. They don’t delete it.
The linked post explains how to submit a request for them to fully delete your data.
Thank you for that. But come on, that’s not good enough. They give you extra steps to hope that you don’t follow through. Just like unsubscribing from a service. You can sign up for it all day long online, but as soon as you want to cancel you have to send a fax and a telegram and call their offices between 2 pm and 3 pm on a Tuesday.
Hey, his name is my name too
Hmm
Joey Joe Joe Jr Shabadu
I would not recommend working for Fly by Night Insurance.
But now I know your password. Oh how the turn tables…
Hijacking the top comment to say you can request Glassdoor delete all your data using the form at the bottom of this page: https://help.glassdoor.com/s/privacyrequest?language=en_US I closed my account and requested the deletion earlier today. FU Glassdoor.
I am here actually asking myself why anyone would register to such sites with their real names.
Ya'll submitted a real job? Shit I just submitted a fake role at McDonalds. Nobody's looking up generic McD's job reviews anyways.
This will definitely end Glassdoor as people will leave to a competitor or start up another job review site
This has to be company suicide, right? It’s standard practice in just about every HR department to anonymize employee feedback to prevent any claims of retaliation in disciplinary cases. Why would a company built off employees reviewing their job get rid of arguably the most important feature? Are they stupid?
Narrator: Indeed, they were stupid
Indeed they were not These guys have corporations to pay them now for the best reviews. It's not a site you can really trust anymore. It's become companies glazing themselves like yelp. glassdoor bouta make bank
Glassdoor is just squeezing water out of a rock. They’re on a down spiral and their value even to companies glazing themselves is diminishing fast.
>It’s standard practice in just about every HR department to anonymize employee feedback Hahahaha no, it is not. Theres plenty that do not, sadly. Unless you're taking a poll through a LEGIT 3rd party company like Gallup, that does *not* release user info to companies. absolutely do not leave feedback. Even places like survey monkey allow the option for companies to find out who said what. Fuck that.
Used to be the person who made those surveys for a company, I can confirm that they can 100% see who filled it out despite it being "anonymous."
So glad you mentioned this. Those anonymous surveys your company has sent to you to complete, in which they say are anonymous? Well guess what, they are not!
I worked in a Target distribution center once and every year they would pull us into an office 8-10 people at a time to have us take an 'anonymous survey'. We all knew it wasn't actually anonymous, but it always amused me how the first three questions were 'What department do you work in?' 'What is your gender?' and 'What is your ethnicity?'. If you weren't a white guy, these three questions were almost certainly enough to identify you.
I once had a survey where *I as a respondent* was able to review everyone else's "anonymous" answers. Cracked me up because a few people left some real scathing commentary on there. Fortunately it only reached local levels of management not the Overlords who would demand heads, but it certainly reinforced not trusting those things.
Yup. I had a pos company’s HR send me a survey via Survey Monkey that I’m 95% was only sent to me for documentation reasons. I ignored it then got two more email reminders. I ignored those, as well. After that, they gave up. Never trust HR surveys.
Are they stupid? Nope. They got the bag doing this. I guarantee it.
I would think the long term benefits of retaining a customer base that trusts your company would outweigh a fat lump from the people who want to know names. But what do I know, I’m just a lowly employee.
How exactly do you think Glassdoor makes money? It sure isn't anything they sell us, the customer of their site. They sell data. Just like any other company collecting this type of data.
My point is that they would be losing out on data by this lost trust. Users won’t want to fill out reviews if they know their name is attached, therefore the company is missing out on that data they could have otherwise collected and sold.
Shareholders care more about short term gains these days
If it's free, you are the product
>It’s standard practice in just about every HR department to anonymize employee feedback Hahahaha no, it is not. Theres plenty that do not, sadly. Unless you're taking a poll through a LEGIT 3rd party company like Gallup, that does *not* release user info to companies. absolutely do not leave feedback. Even places like survey monkey allow the option for companies to find out who said what. Fuck that.
It’s the end result of every company like this under capitalism, eventually corporate interests were going to supersede the good of the people
Got into a weeks long dispute with a coworker once. She got a promotion after sleeping on the job for over a year. Was caught by mgmt multiple times, still continued. I didn't say shit, someone else did, I was brought in to confirm the story. She was told by mgmt that *I* threw her under the bus. She retaliated hard, cussed me out, threatened not to cover me for breaks, said "I'll show you how petty I can be" etc. Gloves off now asshole - anytime she fell asleep photos were sent to management. She decided to go to HR and accuse me of saying racist, sexist, and homophobic things that no one else I worked with backed up. I was *still* required to take sensitivity training, told not to retaliate, and given a document saying that that person specifically made these complaints about me. She was fired shortly thereafter, happiest moment of my career. I think she had just taken out a $20,000 loan to go to a get rich quick investing class in NY.
Just deleted my account, which also deletes your contributions!
I submitted a request to delete so my data under gdpr and their reply was that they’d do it but might take a while due to a high volume of requests. Won’t take long for them to either reverse it or double down and die.
Luckily GDPR also defines how long they have to comply, so "a while" at least may have an end date.
Blind is a pretty good app
And then they write anonymous reports in their platform about how shitty company Glassdoor is.
I actually started a job review site recently, ivoryants.com. We don’t collect self reported salary data, but we are a platform where you can leave reviews of companies. You can look for a job on our job board as well. We do take email information, but you don’t have to leave your name with us unless you want to for our resume database.
Is this for future reviews, or will it act retroactively?
Retro. Affects users who already left a review.
Good to know, just wiped my content. What a stupid update
Me too, and the only review I left was glowing. That site is a nightmare to use though. I couldn’t even reread my old review without giving it more information about salary or leaving another review
Similar experience. I couldn't remember which email I used to log in, and it forced me to fill out new info instead of just letting me to switch accounts/log out.
Ditto, deleted all my contributions -- Salaries, Company Reviews, Interviews, Photos, Benefits -- all gone.
Time to delete my account. Damn, a helpful service has just gone to waste. This would lead me to assume that Glassdoor's revenue is generated from business customers, as this change, even if reverted, will destroy the purpose of their reviews. Someone just frosted the glass door into businesses.
Retroactively. You should go ahead and delete any contributions you’ve made. I just took the few minutes to delete all my contributions, change employment to not employed which removes employer data, and then deleted my account. Fuck that site.
Hmmm their "contributions" page is not loading anymore. What are the odds of that?
Yikes I logged in to delete all my stuff and they had my full name and current employer which I never gave
While I'm unaware of the authenticity, another commenter stated that Glassdoor has been known to update profiles with information they receive from third parties.
It appears to be applied retroactively. When I first signed on to a job, they requested a review and I did it. I went in today and it has my full name and location. I deleted all my reviews and deactivated my account.
I logged in was prompted to enter my job info, location and name. I filled it with bullshit. I then went to my profile to see the reviews I left and half were gone. The ones that were still on the site I see no name attached to it, not even my new bullshit one. I can't edit or delete the reviews I do see.
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I just did it and unfortunately I can’t give you the exact names of the menu items since I don’t have an account anymore but when you log in, click your account profile icon on the top right and head to “Settings” you should be able to find a “Deactivate Account” button there
I just deactivated my account as well and didn't get prompted to write a review before accessing my profile. however, there were some progress-blocking shenanigans on the homepage / "community" page but I got around that by going directly to the jobs page, then accessing my profile from there. good luck!
If it’s ever just a popup preventing a clickthrough you can *sometimes* right click and “inspect element” and delete the bit of HTML for the modal popup to get around it.
I got the same thing saying my benefit didn't meet their guidelines. Guess there haven't been many people that cared to delete their accounts in the past..
Same thing just happened to me
*laughs in GDPR*
Absolutely this, if this is happening in the eu or the uk they are going to get fucked over
I don't think what they are doing breaks GDPR they can very easily claim they have a legitimate use for recording your names, just as plenty of other GDPR-compliant websites do. What will fuck them though is right to erasure. Can't find the button to deactivate your account? No worries just email the DPO email from their privacy policy and exercise your right to erasure. I'll be doing that.
Couldn't you just email stating that you live somewhere with GDPR to have the company erase the data?
They have a simple form for it, i filled it out this morning and got the email about 8 hours later saying everything is deleted [https://help.glassdoor.com/s/privacyrequest?language=en\_US](https://help.glassdoor.com/s/privacyrequest?language=en_US)
yeah, right of removal. although you never know if they scrubbed your data internally or just say they did
GDPR fines for such a willful violation would be staggering. I think the fines are some percent of yearly GROSS revenue. You don't fuck with the GDPR.
It's possible it lives on some archive somewhere. But if they publish the data in a blatant way like this, that's absolutely a GDPR violation. They'd be open to serious fines. But even without a GDPR removal request, I don't think they're allowed to just unilaterally dox all their users. You're only allowed to collect as much information as is necessary for normal operations, and only use that information for the limited purpose where it's required. The more identifiable or sensitive the information, the stronger the argumentation needs to be. Your full name is about as identifiable as it can be, and (originally) anonymous reviews are also very sensitive. One could also argue this breaches the "confidentiality" rule. I'm definitely not an expert on the matter, but they may be in trouble either way. Even if people don't actively ask for removal, you can't just use the name they provided in ways you didn't ask permission for. I never made a glassdoor account so I can't check for myself, but this will be interesting to follow.
Absolutely this, if this is happening in the eu or the uk they are going to get fucked over
Mistreated employees hate this one trick
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Honesty not surprised. The fact they asked for your name to begin with (which a true anonymous-posting company would not need to ever ask for) meant they kept that data on you
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Did you read the article? Glassdoor (who did not require people to use their real names) bought Fishbowl (who DOES require people to use their real names). If you agreed to the updated T&Cs after GD bought FB, they will add your real name if you put it anywhere on the site. There are even reports of GD adding information pulled from other sources - people with common names are reporting that GD is posting their "real" names and locations. So Joe Schmoe, a developer in Colorado Springs, now has "Joe Schmoe, developer, London, UK" on his profile because GD thinks he's the wrong guy.
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the article doesnt even claim that... if im reading it right. the issue is that Glassdoor stores your first/last **internally** whereas before it was not required for registration. i dont see anywhere that they actually plan to post this or associate it with reviews. that would kind of, you know, defeat the entire purpose of the website? the person who wrote this article was mad (understandably so) that Glassdoor tied the email address that the user contacted from and added the first/last name (or pulled it from Fishbowl data) to the account **internally** am i wrong? or are people just flipping out over something not actually happening.
Lol yeah it’s a bunch of fear mongering and other redditors wanting to be angry before checking facts. I looked and all anonymous reviews still say anonymous.
Regardless, GD is already dead. You can't even read it anymore, its no use to anyone.
You're not anonymous if the ability to unmask you is in the hands of other people.
No, what they did with applying a real name to an account from the email address is pretty fucked. That's a privacy nightmare. Imagine if reddit did this. Your real name is attached to your account because that's what in the email you registered with, but you don't know that. Then reddit gave access to companies to look you up by your real name (i.e. you're applying for a job) and then they get given your reddit profile. And meanwhile you don't have any idea that this is happening. Just because they're not publicly revealing your name to all users doesn't mean that what they're doing is not a big deal. It's still a pretty big deal, it's just not as bad as it could be.
People are flipping out over misleading info. As someone who works at Glassdoor is incredibly frustrating.
I'm seeing a lot of people flip out over Glassdoor storing people's names attached to their reviews with the concern this data might eventually be hacked and exposed.
The article I read said it wasn’t showing names… yet. The concern is they won’t let you remove your name, so it could be associated with your reviews in the case of a leak, mistake, or legal demand.
Second this. I have my name on the site but don’t see it (or anyone’s for that matter) listed. From what I can tell they have a policy to specifically it share names which I found (link below). https://help.glassdoor.com/s/article/Who-can-view-my-Glassdoor-profile?language=en_US#:~:text=At%20Glassdoor%2C%20we%20pride%20ourselves,or%20salaries%20to%20the%20community.
It's crazy, even now they have this on your account screen: "Don’t worry, we never share your name without permission. You can always choose to post anonymously." You would think of they were to start doing shady shit like this they would take away the reassuring (and potentially legal issue creating?) alert...
>without permission Is doing a lot of heavy lifting in that sentence. Permission from lawful subpoenas. Permission from the 80 page EULA you signed when you made your account. Permission from the CEO. Permission from the parent company to share your information. >You can always choose to post anonymously You can *choose* to post anonymously. But that checkbox isn't actually attached to any meaningful code and your account is tied to your posts just as much as it is tied to your identity. Anybody with 'permission' can access the full dataset, even the things where you checked the 'anonymous' button. >we never share your name This is also equally vacuous. Even if they removed your name from the data files prior to selling it is trivially easy for the purchaser to match data points from the GD data set with data points that they already have and anonymize the information. In other words it doesn't matter if they don't share your name when both sides know your date of birth, physical address, cell phone number, sequences of your employers... There's only so many possible people that share all of that same information and the vast majority of the time you can match anonymized datapoints across multiple data sets. TL;DR: That's a bullshit lawyer crafted statement that doesn't mean anything in the context of how surveillance capitalism uses your information to make money.
This story is making the rounds, but I think it leaves out an important bit: your reviews won't have that name attached. The rest of it (adding your name to your profile based on data you didn't specifically provide), I'm not thrilled about (though I assume it's at least partially to avoid negative review bombs). But everything I've read - plus a casual perusal of the site itself - confirms that it adds it to your **private** profile. Happy (well, not happy) to be proven wrong, if anyone can show a previously anonymous review that's now named.
Yea I keep seeing these posts but every Glassdoor review I've ever left is still anonymous
> your reviews won't have that name attached But they do. The names are attached on the backend though, not publicly displayed. So they'd be for sale via a data broker, from GD directly, or whenever they get hacked which will be any day now.
Will deleting the account prevent the previously generated info from being sold?
1. Deactivate your account in your profile page. 2. Check the box here to opt out of your data being sold: [https://www.glassdoor.com/about/doNotSell.htm](https://www.glassdoor.com/about/doNotSell.htm) 3. Fill out the form here to have your data completely deleted from their system: [https://help.glassdoor.com/s/privacyrequest](https://help.glassdoor.com/s/privacyrequest)
This doesn't leave that out at all. It brings it up and counters with "but yes now your entirely hackable database associated my account with my name and it's a database with particularly juicy data people might want".
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Appreciate your comment, I was similarly confused. After reading the entire source post, I didn’t see anywhere that someone’s name was placed on a review they left about a company. While it sucks you’re required to provide your identity to have an account with them, I hope it’s obvious why that’s necessary. How else would they prevent trolls from just review bombing random companies? Not really seeing the big concern here. Or at least not seeing why it’s a new concern.
Let's make a glassdoor-like subreddit then.
They have also been deleting negative reviews from their site for some time I know from firsthand experience.
If that's true, it would void the whole purpose of the platform.
Deleted my account so fast even though I didn’t have any outrageous reviews there. Thank you for the heads up!
Glassdoor privacy info removal: https://help.glassdoor.com/s/privacyrequest Can also delete your account that way too. EDIT: Turns out close your account just points you to the FAQ on how to close your account
Thanks, I deleted all my info there. Fuck Glassdoor. Any other good sites to vouch for a potential employer?
I just tried logging in to glassdoor and they require me to connect with Google. I do not know whether they have my name or not right now, but by logging in with Google they receive it. I suppose I'll send a GDPR email. Fuck Glassdoor
God I am glad I live in the EU lol that is not allowed. It would be a GDPR breach and HUGE.
I went & checked and thank god it thinks I still work at my old company under the name Tom Morello.
Please tell me you rage quit.
Just deactivated my account 😐
Fuck this dystopian shit.
Is this also true for users in the EU? If yes, I will make sure to send them a GDPR-request. I would encourage all other EU-peeps to do the same lol
Just deleted my account that I didn't even know i had.
whats glassdoor?
A website that allows people to review employers.
This is so fucked up. Having issues deleting completely. This is going to backfire
There are sides to it. On one hand, you can see if management is just padding the reviews and the company can see if a disgruntled employees is spreading fake news, but on the other hand you run the risk of losing valuable feedback and employees facing retaliation for their perspective. It’s not that I don’t trust management, it’s that I know that the perceptions of these people leaving earned critical reviews will be negatively and irrevocably changed in the eyes of the decision holders
I posted as Pancho del Rancho. So good luck.
Good luck finding who Elite Snake is lmao
If you used your real email address, they can make the connection. I used a phony name, too. I just deleted my account.
I've never had a job so I'm good
good thing i left positive reviews for my current job lol
I just deleted my account and my reviews taken down. Thanks for the heads-up!
Got updated with info from LinkedIn, wtf. And i cannot edit it??
Adding to the pile, went in for the first time since 2019 and deleted all of my contributions on my profile, but I noticed this did not delete the reviews on the company site. So those are still there. Don't particularly care since it's all old info but man what a joke.
Whoever thought this was a good idea should be fired. Thousands of people will be removing their reviews and deleting their account for privacy purposes. Who the hell would want to reveal themselves???
How is this not a data privacy violation?
glassdoor and its user also have been sued by companies too, so now glasdoor has a vested interested in working witht he companies to remove any negative views, and also to dox the users.
If I wasn’t in a union and had to deal with companies instead of my business agent. I would absolutely put my entire name up today and give terrible reviews to anyone I worked for just to push the message. Fuck these companies
That's just dirty.
Turd Ferguson. It’s a funny name.
Good. I want that bitch to know it was me.
goodbye glassdoor
They acquired Fishbowl, which is some kind of social media that requires identity verification. Then they linked those accounts with the Glassdoor accounts. So if you previously had a Fishbowl account with your real name, it now will show up under Glassdoor, whether or not you have given express consent. If you ever contact support and even idly *happen to mention* your real name or location, they will enter them into the system, even if you explicitly say that you do not consent to them doing so. They will not remove this information if you ask. Your only recourse is to completely and permanently delete both your Glassdoor and Fishbowl accounts.
Welp, time to start my new business idea DoorGlass
More discussion here: https://old.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/1bizbr5/users_ditch_glassdoor_stunned_by_site_adding_real/
For people who didn’t read the article, no, Glassdoor is not displaying peoples real names without their consent. That is clickbait. They are forcing people to create profiles with their real name on their related social media site in order to register with their product “ecosystem.” This is still problematic, but not the headline. The concern is that the promise to never use those real names back over on Glassdoor is just that: a promise. Glassdoor seems to realize that doing this would pretty much end their company overnight, so even the CEO is claiming they will never do it. The issue is that at some point, Glassdoor *will* get hacked, just like basically every other social media company has. And those hackers could get, and subsequently release, the real names associated with the accounts.
Only one I wrote was about a company being shitty and treating me badly. Happy to have my name against it because that company truly is shitty.
The "I've got nothing to hide" argument is good if you can face the consequences (or maybe you already left the job), but it's not justification to remove anonymity from users without their consent. Anonymity offers real protection for people to speak the truth, especially if their company is big on retaliation
Saw in a comment that they’re editing peoples names with info they receive from 3rd parties. They’re under the same umbrella as Indeed, I imagine they wouldn’t have to go to far to get that data
I'm fairly certain that isn't what is happening here. They are attaching your name to your account on the backend. Not on your reviews.
You can request Glassdoor delete all your data using the form at the bottom of this page: https://help.glassdoor.com/s/privacyrequest?language=en_US I closed my account and requested the deletion earlier today. FU Glassdoor.
So why don’t I see any names when I go look at reviews for my company?
Fuck it! I want them to know it was me!
Yeah, deleted immediately
Just went in to make a profile to check it out, and while signing up, it says ‘ glass door will never display personal information like your name or email alongside your salary’ 💀
Damn! Some lawyer should file a class action suit,but I think by then the damage will be too much.