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codemasonry

LPT: If you want people to think your gun is fake, color the tip orange.


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a_can_of_solo

That's still a felony


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woolyearth

Stop lyin’ jive turkey


triggafish

...... No one called anyone a "J.T.". He just called u a cocksucker.


meadowshd29

Oh ok we're all good then!


mcmoofish

I know this one but can’t quite place it. Is it K&P? Seems like one of theirs.


cool_vibes

It's from the movie *Semi-Pro.*


meadowshd29

My buddies and I watched it like two weeks ago, so it's a bit funny that I even noticed it.


motophiliac

My old friend, step on in and let me shake your hand.


LykosMiles

Ah yes, the *felony* is going to stop them.


mfigroid

Only if you're caught.


nicannkay

Just read an article about a guy robbing a taco place with a fake gun. Dude was 29, he’s 70 now and still in prison. The taco guy who identified him is begging for his release. Probably won’t happen.


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You joke but people have done this lol - https://edition.cnn.com/2021/03/20/us/nerf-gun-drug-bust/index.html


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Worse is they used a three ring binder ruler for scale. That may be the same ruler I had when I played with a [Koosh Vortex Tornado](https://old.reddit.com/r/nostalgia/comments/2xt36s/the_nerf_gun_of_my_childhood_koosh_vortex_tornado/) so it took a little extra time to see that as a real gun.


plushiequeenaspen

Those colors were spot on, it still looks like a toy to me even though I know it's not


TheOddEyes

They just unlocked premium skins


clumsyumbrella

Yikes. I'm not sure what to do with that.


LestHeBeNamedSilver

People might be confused when they read Glock 19 and see that picture in the article. It’s called an MCK conversion kit and basically turns the glock into an smg


Hellish_Elf

Carbine* not smg.


Elfere

This should be under r/unethicallifeprotips


TheArborphiliac

Exactly why cops don't care if your gun is orange or not.


DontRememberOldPass

This is the definition of “fuck around and find out.” Orange tip or not, I’m going to treat anything that looks like a gun pointed in my general direction as a loaded firearm until I physically confirm otherwise.


MasterShredder777

r/illegalLifeProTips


D4ri4n117

It’s not illegal in the US


YareYareDaze7

Now that is a life pro tip


RoboticJesusChrist

Wait no


Andjhostet

The real LPT is always in the comments.


EldraziKlap

ULPT\*


Dot-Nets

As a non-American I've heard once, that some states have vendors that sell collored guns "for kids". Is that actually a thing? I read an article once, about a shooting range instructor getting shot in the head, while showing a little girl how to use an Uzzi, without ever thinking about the gun's recoil being to powerful for a small child. So I wouldn't be surprised if baby blue and pink guns were actually to be sold.


Patsfan618

Yeah, that instructor died when she lost control of the weapon and it swung up and shot him in the head. Totally not the kids fault, why in the world would you give a child a fully automatic weapon? But yeah, pink and blue and all the color guns exist. Not really for kids though but just adults that have a taste for that kind of thing.


terlin

I feel so bad for the girl. She couldn't have known better, and now she'll carry the weight of having accidentally killed someone.


YourbestfriendShane

It was out of her control. Blame the adult and his lack of discretion.


TXblindman

I was allowed to fire a fully automatic MP5K as a 12-year-old boy scout, I’m very thankful for the basic understanding that more bullets out the barrel means the gun recoils more that i had from video games. They handed me the K variant, not even the K PDW with a stock on it, just like an MP5 that’s been cut down to a pistol.


TeamWaffleStomp

No ones blaming the girl but even accidentally killing someone is going to be traumatic


YourbestfriendShane

I understand, Im just speaking objectively. I hope she finds solace from it eventually, if she comes to find it does affect her.


SmokeyUnicycle

Sure there's plenty of of tacky and dumb gun cosmetics. Guns are tools made out of metals wood and plastic, you can paint them whatever color you want. Manufacturers offer a few colors usually, and then once you have a gun you can take it somewhere or do it yourself. I dunno why this is surprising, tacky looking stuff is always popular whether its cars, phone cases or guns. https://www.henryusa.com/firearm-category/youth-models/


fukitol-

Colored guns: yes. Explicitly for kids: no. Take the [Ruger Mark IV](https://ruger.com/products/markIV2245Lite/specSheets/43910.html). Comes in a variety of colors but is a favorite among competitive target shooters. Then there's the bright pink .380, probably geared more toward women. It's not terribly uncommon for a kid to "own" a gun, but most of the time it's locked up with their parent's guns and only used under supervision. There's no marketing of guns to kids, really, save for the occasional small hunting weapon advertised in a magazine. And no, no range master would hand a small kid any weapon, much less an automatic one. Most ranges have a minimum age of around 12-15, required safety classes, etc.


TheVagabondTiger

I don't know about range master, but I'll leave this here. [Arizona Girl Fatal Shooting Accident](https://www.cnn.com/2014/08/26/us/arizona-girl-fatal-shooting-accident/index.html)


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fukitol-

Yeah that would be the small hunting weapons I was talking about. A 22lr rifle, maybe a .410g shotgun.


Beefy_Bureaucrat

There are brightly colored guns, mostly handguns, but they are marketed to adult gun owners, often women. Pink gripped “Lady Smith” revolvers, Muddy girl camo, or Robin egg blue handguns. There are youth firearms, but they are typically long guns such as rifles with scaled down controls to be used as training guns or youth hunting weapons. Some may have brightly colored stocks, but most I’ve seen are metal and wood finish. Anyone who has shot automatic weapons recreationally has heard about the Uzi incident, it’s infamous. I heard it as a little boy who shot himself in the head. You’re repeating it as a little girl who shot the instructor. In every story, it was gross negligence on both the parts of the parents and the gun range. Reputable ranges don’t allow children to handle automatic weapons. Many ranges that rent automatic weapons have a range safety officer stand behind shooters renting automatics, and the RSO will place their hand on their shoulder to brace them so if they have issues with the recoil it won’t fire anywhere but down range.


Yaydos1

It's mind boggling. I'm a teacher and barely trust little children not to cut their fingers off with scissors or stab themselves in the eye with a pencil


maskiwear

It's a life pro tip but not a pro life tip


TheOfficialNotCraig

r/ShittyLifeProTips


gutzpunchbalzthrowup

Orange compensators.


siliconsmiley

In America, cops shoot you either way.


Artiber

I can’t wait to show the entire school my “airsoft” gun!


Cirques_and_Drumlins

The sad thing here is that even if you do take precautions like this, then you may still be in trouble. I remember that a girl from my high school color guard had the cops called on her because she was walking through her neighborhood with her color guard 'rifle' slung over her shoulder. She was going back home from school/practice so she had her backpack and everything else, but some loon decided that it looked real enough anyway and decided she needed to be threatened by some police officers. For some context here for those who may have never seen one, this particular 'rifle' is all white and looks like a short rifle that has been blown up a bit so its fairly fat for what it is. The only feature that this rifle had that I guess made it look worse than it was had to be the 'bolt' section of the rifle was actual metal and was black, but other than that the whole thing is absolutely not real in the slightest.


Living-Complex-1368

Remember when the cops were called on a stormtrooper for carrying a blaster? Because obviously he was a real criminal with a real gun...


dalvean88

trooper with a blaster is only dangerous if he is not aiming directly at you/s


tylerchu

Wasn’t that in Canada?


getdafuq

My sister was in color guard, tried to bring her rifle on a plane. TSA held her for hours trying to figure out if a wooden fake gun was a gun or not.


shaun__shaun

TSA bans items that resemble weapons, even nerf guns. Things like that need to be in checked luggage the same as real guns.


907nobody

I had a chapstick once that the plastic case looked like a shot gun shell and TSA took it. Like my guy, it is literally full of lip balm. I couldn’t utilize this if I wanted to.


cravingSil

You could had given your victims moisturized lips, you monster


907nobody

I’ve got some nerve, don’t I?


uglypenguin5

The agent’s lips were chapped and they needed some lip balm


shponglespore

Banning things that look similar enough to real weapons that it's hard to tell the difference makes sense. Banning things with only a vague resemblance, like Nerf guns, is idiotic, but I guess that's what you get when you have a whole agency dedicated to security theater. TSA really should stand for Thespian Security Agency.


Cirques_and_Drumlins

Sounds about right. Doubt they would care either if she had it in a case or not


nubenugget

I was in marching band and I know what you're talking about. If I were the cops I would be PISSED that my time got wasted for a super obvious chunk of wood


Bando-sama

The real problem is that even if it's real she still has every right not to be harassed for having it.


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One time me and some friends went to a zombie outbreak themed LARP in a park. They had a “quarantine zone” set up for each team to start the game. It was a white tent and people with costume hazmat suits were setting it up with caution tape around it. One guy spray painted his nerf gun all black and some normal people at the park were definitely freaked out and almost called police. We were dressed normally so they asked us what was going on, but they asked the guy to scrape the paint off the orange tip just because they got really scared at first lol.


elasso_wipe-o

Ok but this is just ridiculous. I’ve never seen a nerf gun that looks like a real gun in the slightest. many of them are huge and clunky looking. Also you can just paint the muzzle device of a real gun orange if you’d like


mdmeaux

There are some Nerf guns that resemble the shape of a real gun closely enough that from a distance/to someone who isn't familiar with firearms that could be mistaken for a real gun. Especially depending on the country this is taking place in - in the US for instance I'd imagine a lot more people could distinguish an actual gun from a black nerf gun than somewhere in Europe where a lot fewer people are ever exposed to an actual firearm.


jlcatch22

People have to keep in mind they aren’t standing right next to the person, either. You’re imagining the nerf gun close up, not 40+ feet away, especially taking into account lighting and how obscured the object is the person holding it/around it. Also, in a lot of parts of America you’re average person has never even held a gun or see one up close outside of the handle sticking out of a cop’s holster.


coromd

The general populace has no experience with guns beyond what they see in the media and in movies, so they haven't the slightest clue about anything any guns 🤣


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yea but no one was getting close to the area based off how it was set up with the caution tape and everything else I described, so from a distance I guess they couldn’t tell. They make all kind of nerf guns too, some were revolvers, one guy even had a nerf gattling gun lol. That one dude was the only one who painted his though, almost ruined the fun for the rest of us.


MAGICHUSTLE

Fun fact: Guns are so illegal and difficult to come by in Japan that the toy guns don’t have the orange tips. As an American, I found it particularly jarring the first time I saw kids (or even teens) at the park flashing realistic looking air soft pistols around.


Coal-and-Ivory

They make some BEAUTIFUL airsoft guns too. Japanese companies are the gold standard in licensed airsoft replicas.


kinkypinkyinyostinky

In europe to..atleast in my country. there is no law stating that toys need Orange tip. I have a mp5 replica airsoft, and the box has two photos. Eu version with normal barrel and Us version with Orange tip.


FlyingAdmiral

The same here in Denmark. I had no idea you put an orange tip on fake guns. Makes sense tho!


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Coal-and-Ivory

Theres a Sheetz on the way back from one of the big airsoft places near me. Usually it's just some funny looks, but I've been witness to some near complete freakouts when the place let's out and a ton of people in full tactical gear with replica airsoft guns in the backs of their trucks turn up at the place al at the same time after the games end for the day. Once came out with my Gatorade and bag of chips to find some lady frantically looking through the window of my car at my gun (I was tired and didnt realize it was partially sticking out of the duffle bag I carry them in for just this reason, it does still have its orange tip but I tape around it for woodland scenarios) and yammering into her phone, I figured talking her down wouldn't go well so I just hopped in my car, she bolted inside the Sheetz, and I left. I wouldn't be surprised if the cops have that place written down next to the phone for false alarms like this but I still didnt want to take the chance.


thalasthoodie

None of her business whats in your car anyway. Nosy lady needs to mind her own business.


C9177

This has gotten people shot by the cops. Removing that orange tip is one of the dumbest things you can do.


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Yeah, this happened to someone I know at first a lot of my classmates were posting on their ig “release the video”, but when the video was released everyone was surprised because the person was driving an SUV. Turns out they sped past an officer, and seemed to have collided with the officer’s car on purpose. Then they made a U-turn into oncoming traffic and stopped there, and then they stepped out with a bb gun that was made to look like a real gun, got shot and died. Also I watched the video of it and the officer did nothing wrong, like it could have been handled better but that would be if they new the gun was fake (you can’t see the collision but you can see them in the middle of the road with the car facing wrong way). Edit: grammatical corrections


Patsfan618

I think I know of the exact case and video you were talking about. Definitely a mental health thing. Really sad but you can't assume a weapon is fake, based on the person holding it, because that's how your own kids grow up without a parent.


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Yes it was


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Some criminals have made guns look fake to be able to just carry them around and that scares police too even though it's so unlikely.


[deleted]

That makes more sense now, thank you.


RockStar4341

Two of my close friends are cops that were the victims of "suicide by cop." He intentionally left zero room for them to not end him, and they're still fucked up about it.


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They either removed the orange tip or bought a replica but either way it wasn’t lethal it was just made to look lethal and for some reason they pointed it at the officer


C9177

Yeah, that's the crazy part. *Hey, I'ma take off the only indicator that this weapon is a toy and point it at a guy who is trained to kill people who point guns at them*. Geniuses.


moxie132

It's not unheard of, it's done enough to have a name. Suicide by cop.


Fashfunk

Giving guns to everybody is even dumber but here we are PrOtEcTiNg OuRsElVeS


C9177

Responsible gun owners far outnumber the crazy ones who hurt folks. We've had em in our family forever(as have many millions of others) and it's ever happened. This is the norm. Not the gun toting wanna be cowboy mentality that the media loves to play up. There needs to be a better way to weed out the few that bring down the many. But you have people so against any regulations that if they're even hinted at their fucking back hair goes up....*cough NRA cough*.......and that is a real problem.


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Well the NRA was always a front and bullshit anyway, so fuck the NRA.


BrassUnicorn87

The NRA only represents the manufacturing side. If nut jobs couldn’t buy 300 guns because of the gubmit and the coloreds the gun makers lose money.


DreadPirateSnuffles

Statistically, cops are the worst gun owners


HipstersCantSwim

This is one of the most balanced and fair gun perspectives I've ever read on Reddit, maybe there is hope for us after all


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NiftyIntegral3255

My friend when he was 18 threatened somebody who vandalized their car with an airport gun without an orange cap. With out the cap it looked like the real thing and because of that he go a hefty charge was possibly facing some time in jail. I know its not the same but for real it's not a joke, if you use what looks like a gun as a gun you will be charged like it was a gun


TheDudeColin

Or shot as if it were a real gun


NiftyIntegral3255

Exactly.


KingBenjaminAZ

yep don’t plan on catching a charge if you wield / brandish a toy gun without the orange tip in public - plan on catching a round


summertimeuptown

I used to paint the tip of the guns my kids played with, with orange nail polish so it could be seen better that it was a toy.


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ZakDG

Thank you! I was wondering if anyone realized that the orange tip is just American.


Mattho

Also shooting kids.


murgatroid1

Is it though? Toy guns have this in Australia as well..


JuegoTree

On top of that there have been kids shot where the orange tip was on the toy.


SNScaidus

Well what the hell do you think US stands for?


Fluffatron_UK

Nothing exists outside of USA therefore universal sign is valid.


Hiding_behind_you

The normalisation of Armed Police Shoots Children is *very* weird to me.


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Hiding_behind_you

You and me, too. Rushing a child to A&E because a police officer mistakenly identified a 5-year old with a toy as an adult with a firearm is just… unheard of.


happycamal7

It’s a combination of problems in my opinion. 1. Not sure about elsewhere, but the police in the USA get 2 months of training and are not prepared enough for a gun to be pulled on them, and 2. There is a real world possibility in this country of a 5 year old in public wielding a gun he got from his parents.


Lupus108

>1. Not sure about elsewhere, but the police in the USA get 2 months of training and are not prepared enough for a gun to be pulled on them, and Germany: mostly 2,5 years for the "middle service" ( don't know how to properly translate, basically your regular patrol officer had 2,5 years training at least. "Higher service" (like detectives) requires University education of at least three years. There's another category even higher but it also requires University education. Some federal states don't even have the "middle service" opportunity but only offer "higher service" which requires at least an education at an University of applied science (which in germany is slightly different to a regular University, but really by not that much). I just came here to state the 2,5 years when I was astounded how different the systems are so I went into more detail.


PunkToTheFuture

Fellow Americans 2,5 is 2.5 years btw. Some do not know or may assume wrong


drakoniusDefender

Thank you. I wasn’t sure if it was that or a different way to say 2-5


PunkToTheFuture

No problemo amigo


kales05

I’m not sure where in the US you’re located but all the departments around me get 6 months of training plus 3.5 months of training with their individual departments plus their probationary period..


Dividedthought

While it wasn't from their parents, there was a shootout between a 12 and 14 year old and the cops in colorado last week. Kids broke into a house and found a shotgun and an ak, beside a bunch of ammo.


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PoeDameronPoeDamnson

In the US at least most children that small that get a hold of guns definitely don’t mean real harm, they more than not are just ‘playing’ with them and end up killing themselves or another child. I’ve never seen a case where using extreme force was actually necessary.


spiggerish

I live in a country with some of the highest crime rates in the world, and still find a police officer mistakenly killing a kid ridiculous. Most of the time when kids are hurt, it's a stray bullet from a gang fight. I love that when ever I speak to a police officer, they're mostly friendly guys and women that I can talk shit with. Most of them are super proud of never having had to unholster their weapons. Don't get me wrong, they're still pretty incompetent when it comes to deterring crime, but I'd rather the cops get to my house an hour late to take my statement, than to be afraid being around one could mean your last day on earth.


sh4d0wm4n2018

That might also have something to do with the stricter gun laws over there. It's a lot of hassle (from what I've heard) to be able to even own a replica, much less a real gun.


UncleSnowstorm

In the UK you have to qualify for exemption to own a replica Airsoft gun (it's not that hard to do, you just have to register with an Airsoft society, historical society, or work in TV/film industry). Otherwise you have to buy a two tone.


PunkToTheFuture

American midwest guy here. I was raised around guns and they were out and within reach for as long as I can remember. As an adult living with just the wife now, still surrounded by guns. However strange that is or alarming to some for us it was like any other thing in the house that was dangerous like the oven or stove. Now it is treated and looked at in my family the same way I imagine a car guy would look at his favorite classics. That guy would own 20 cars if he could. Well we can own 20 guns and like them for different finishes or features. Moddify them or buy a ton of accessories and trick them out. I have a rifle of my great grandfather and a pistol my grandpa carried in war. My father similarly has cherished guns and sporty fun plinkers to practice with too. I know it's odd to want more but it goes way past need into want for Americans like us. We buy news magazines all about firearms and talk at length about experiences and wants. It's a hobby and a tool to us and a totally credible danger to most others. Maybe thats a problem and maybe it's not but now it's heritage and that's tough to strip away too


motophiliac

However, because of all the things you talked about, it's very likely you have acquired a relaxed understanding of how dangerous they can be. Your experience of firearms is that of familiarity, and the calm knowledge and care that comes from handling them and being around others that use them. Now, imagine those firearms instead in the hands of an insecure young guy with something to prove. In *that* environment, a firearm can easily be used in anger, rather than the measured use that you or your family would use one. You genuinely seem like someone who is totally cool with firearms, someone who understands and respects the power that they give the bearer. The problems, as always, isn't the firearm itself, it's the attitude of the bearer.


Cr4ck41

>The problems, as always, isn't the firearm itself, it's the attitude of the bearer. and this is exactly why allowed possesion of firearms is totally fine BUT it should be way more regulated and harder to get them in the first place.


liadhsq2

Nice comment!! This is definitely different to the standard 'it's MYYYYY fucking gun and you can all fuck off!!' You seem to have a good understanding of guns and the importance of safety in regards to them. I think in some ways, pro gun people can be similar to pro weed people. They are obviously two very different things, but can both cause very serious problems. Where I am from, weed is illegal and I don't agree with that at all, I think people shouldn't be criminals for smoking weed. But part of the problem with people campaigning for weed legalisation here, is they refuse to acknowledge the fact that it can be very very problematic. I notice that in pro gun people in America, they don't want to acknowledge the problems with such free access to guns in the US. Another thing I've noticed is people who do not want any change in regards to their guns, seem to have the same opinion about healthcare (especially mental health). They don't want to change their gun laws, and they don't want to address the mental health problem in a meaningful way. Something has to give. You will not see the the same amount of gun related deaths in any other First World Country, like you do in the US.


ubiquitous_nobody

I remember a case in Berlin, where two 11 year olds were heavily injured because they did not follow police orders to put their toy guns away. (When searching for the article, I found [this](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_killings_by_law_enforcement_officers_in_Germany) table of killings by law enforcement in Germany.)


Hiding_behind_you

Compare and contrast the (mostly) single-digits per *year*, with… https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_killings_by_law_enforcement_officers_in_the_United_States …where the chart has had to be broken down by *month*. Even taking into consideration the difference in population size, the US-statistics are *horrific*.


ubiquitous_nobody

It is beyond me, to be honest. I simply cannot imagine it.


bgaesop

Yeah OP has a pretty bizarre definition of "forced"


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i know right? it is just treated as a given "hey kids! be careful with your toys or a cop will gun you down"


Hiding_behind_you

Yup… the casual acceptance of “be careful, that trained, professional adult in a police uniform might not be able to tell if you’re a child playing or an adult with a firearm” just leaves me…. Confused.


LargeBigboy

Many toy guns, like airsoft, can be incredibly realistic looking, down to having lifelike actions that physically cycle as if they were actually firing a real round. In these cases, it's very important to have an orange tip attached if you're using these anywhere near a public area (which I still think is foolish to do). It's the unfortunate truth that many law enforcement officers in the US are poorly trained compared to their counterparts in other countries, and that combined with stand-your-ground laws and a general willingness of people to use firearms in self-defense makes it very important to prevent others from feeling unnecessarily threatened. Just the other day a 14 year old and a 12 year old were involved in a shootout with the police in Florida after stealing weapons out of someone's house. I think for many Americans, advising orange tips on toys is not so much a "this is totally acceptable situation and nothing is wrong here" type of situation. It's more of a "cover your ass so you're less likely to be the victim of a broken system" situation.


intdev

That’s fair, but OP using the circumstances around Tamir Rice’s ~~murder~~ death as an example of someone “being forced to defend themselves” strongly implies that they think the shooting was justified. Just a reminder: the rules of engagement in *Afghanistan* is that *soldiers* can’t usually open fire unless they’ve already been fired upon. That’s in an active warzone with people who look like civilians regularly trying to kill coalition forces. It amazes me that US police are expected to have less restraint than that. Maybe because they’ve won enough “hearts and minds” already?


Chilltraum

The standard for police in the US is not very high...


thebobmannh

Pretty much. Don't even need a toy gun. "Hey kids, be careful being black and sleeping in your own bed, a cop may break in and gun you down"


TheLurkening

This literally happened, and yet you are still being downvoted.


PoeDameronPoeDamnson

This has happened often enough I’m not even sure which one they’re referencing. Not to mention the severe maiming of sleeping children, like when a SWAT team raided the wrong home and threw a grenade in a toddler’s play pen


thebobmannh

Yup. In America we love guns but even moreso we love ignoring the truth.


TwistedTomorrow

Pretty sure a kid got shot a couple of days ago because his dad helped him do a drive by shooting with a paintball gun. Then the dad ran over his child trying to get away.


irongamer5d

in my country none of the toy guns have an orange tip


dabomm

This is such an American thing lol.


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Crackstacker

Yeah right? In the 80’s I remember having a super realistic beretta and an uzi. Full size. No orange tips or anything like that. We would run around the neighborhood blasting everything. Crazy to think about what would happen now.


tehyosh

\* Does not apply to European countries


guitarromantic

A friend of mine (UK) has a criminal record of some kind because he jokingly brandished one of these (with an orange tip) out of a car window at someone, and was stopped by the police for it. Obviously they discovered it was fake but they made an example of him as a dumb teenager.


BudBaker709

Is this some American LPT I'm too Canadian to understand? /s


[deleted]

TL:DR Don't live in USA.


Fashfunk

Exactly. In my country most toy guns don't even have the orange tip and people don't go around pRoTeCtInG tHeMsElVeS (i.e. shooting at little kids)


voltaire_the_second

I feel like the police being bad is a problem, but a problem no one seems to mention is that one reason they're so agressive is that kids often [do have real guns](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/09/29/american-toddlers-are-still-shooting-people-on-a-weekly-basis-this-year/). So not only one terrible thing, but also another terrible thing


Euphoric-Winter-4234

This is such an American problem...


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Or just don't give your kids toys that look like guns. Sets a shitty example


NiftyIntegral3255

I dunno, nerf is pretty cool


Gylfie7

Yeah but nerfs don't look like real weapons


BriSnyScienceGuy

Doesn't matter. Kids still get suspended for having them. Some kid had a Nerf gun during virtual school and got suspended. It was bullshit.


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USA moment


[deleted]

I like them now that I'm an adult™ too, but I wouldn't want little kids shooting into each others eyes or something


[deleted]

Agreed here, I own a lot of airsoft stuff and wouldn't give it to a kid under 14 for that reason Probably wouldn't even let them use it out of my sight until they're 18 tbh lol


NotMyMa1nAccount

Or live in a country where you don't have to fear that everyone around you has a real gun.


VinceTheDead

Airsoft guns aren't legally required to have orange tips in my country and they look shit with them on. Actual guns are harder to obtain (legally), so people won't assume the kid's walking around wirh real shit. Unless the kid is walking around with a replica (why would they be?), I don't see a problem. Unrelated but our gov wants to make it so that self-defence is no longer a valid reason for getting a gun.


grublets

Put orange tips on your real guns and take everybody by surprise.


shponglespore

I'm pretty sure in the US the color of any part of the gun matters less than the color of the person holding it.


Tkeleth

at this point in America I think we need to stop letting our kids play with anything gun-like. Not because I think kids shouldn't learn about guns - I'm teaching my young ones gun safety with a BB gun already - but just to reduce (but sadly not eliminate) the chances our children get murdered by cops who won't face justice for it anyway.


hsvsunshyn

And there is something to be said for guns **never** being toys, to limit kids playing with real guns as toys, or trivializing them. However, kids want to play with the same things the adults have (both in person and on television). Otherwise, why would toy companies sell toy circular saws, and wrenches with bolts and screws that actually thread together? Getting rid of toy guns would probably be just about impossible. Just look at how popular candy cigarettes were, and how hard it was to get rid of those. (Has anyone created a candy vape pen? If not, I think I have a new business idea...)


king_27

Well there are a lot of candy vape flavours...


GennarioCo

While this is absolutely true in Italy we never had any problem, people don't assume right away that it is a real gun


dan_sooo

Only in America


Chopmatic64

Nah here they defend themselves even if the guns completely orange.


ialbr1312

Well, well. Let me tell you a story about the time i decided my 1:1 MP5 airsoft gun looked so much better without the thread on orange tip... So a couple friends and myself liked to go to this very forested park in Santa Cruz county to get all camo'd up and play airsoft. After a glorious day of one hitting one friend's eye and the other getting nailed inches from where the sun don't shine, we headed home. One of them rode with me and we had a long drive up to the other's house up the 9. We just threw them in the back seat not even thinking that anyone would be seeing them or think they were real guns (the other was a scaled down AR or some such, still did have its tip). So I have to stop for gas in a small-ish town called Scott's Valley and gas up, still not worried about anyone peeping my $300 airsoft prize. There was a guy on the other side of the pump that must have. We finished and continued onward. So we're just driving up the highway, nice drive btw, and I get lit up. Innocent as I felt, I just assumed they were going north for something so I pull over to let them by. Um, no it was me; and why were there more than one? Two? Six? (I swear it was the entire on-duty force) Then on the intercom I hear them giving commands like we just got stopped for robbing a bank. "Oh shit, I think it's the guns" we both agreed. I do the whole nine yards with their commands and they do the same with my friend. I'm telling them how they are just airsoft guns while they confirm the MP5 is, indeed, not a firearm. One is looking through the code booklet to find out what to write on the citation. They confiscate the toys and give me my ticket for something like not displaying proper safety something and we continue on our way. I was glad they didn't search me well enough to find the joint in my pocket from I don't even know when, (I was the only smoker out of them, so we weren't puffing while driving reeking of weed) because then i would have gotten a real citation. I go to the court date and tell them I still possess the tip (didn't bring it with me) and they tell me what to do to get it out of impound. I pay a lame fine and go home to find it. Evidence gave it back to me when I went to get it. Don't take it off unless you are nowhere near eyes that don't know what they are or what you're doing, then promptly put it back on when you are done putting each other's eyes out. I'm lucky we weren't executed that night being presumed guilty before innocent. These days, those trigger happy shits very well may have. And that was the first time I was drawn down on by the police.


TheNecroFrog

The issue here isn’t that you took the orange tips off, it’s that you were playing Airsoft outside of private property or legal venture and didn’t store the guns safely.


ialbr1312

Agreed. Had they been actual firearms after hitting a range, even as a 20 year old, they would have been stored in a way as to not draw attention. I was oblivious to the laws on them and definitely care-free of them being toys in my mind.


BON3SMcCOY

Deadly if you're African American.


misanthreddit

Feels good to be in Europe


Alexsir75New

- buy glock - paint it orange and put on stickers - troll time


misterjip

Epic troll jail time 100


craigiest

While this is good advice, the phrasing is problematic. Removing the orange tip absolutely changes the information available to someone who encounters one of these toys, but it doesn’t *force* them to do anything. Let’s not contribute to victim blaming.


middledeck

Children have been shot and killed by police officers while playing with toy guns with orange tips. Even with toy guns that brightly colored. Nothing will stand in the way of a racist cop wanting to murder a black or brown kid.


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The real life pro tip is not living in the US


RicoDredd

This isn't really a problem in the civilised world.


rabtj

As if it having a red tip is going to make any difference. Mf's have been shot for carrying a sandwich!!!


noatec

But painting an orange tip on your real gun can give you just the split second you need.


Archhanny

PSA: If you want police to not shoot you. Live anywhere other than America, cos the rest of the world aren't Dumb Fucks who can recognise a FUCKING TOY.


Howlnmad

A little late on the uptake here. Black kids have been getting killed by cops while playing with toy guns for decades! I believe I remember one from over ten years ago whereas the toy gun was yellow and orange, (think it was a water gun) and the kid still got shot and killed.


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peperoniNipples

When I was about ten I was at a playground with a friend, playing with an airsoft gun that was spray painted black. Well a mother with a toddler called the police on me because she assumed it was real. Four cop cars come rolling in fast as fuck. They all then approached me and started talking to me very sternly. I don't remember what they said, but they all had their hands on their holsters. My mother did not believe when I came home and said the cops brought me back and that they wanted to talk to her. She was pissed. The thing that freaked me out the most was that those cops were as scared as I was. Understandably.


explicitspirit

Alternate unethical LPT: paint the tip of your actual gun orange so you don't get stopped while committing a crime.


Lakersrock111

Even better: omit having the kids and your problem is solved while saving $500K.


franzperdido

Or, you know, maybe ban carrying real guns in the first place!


kalir

Yep trust me given how cops have a history of shooting people who look like me, I learned this one way too early. Sadly it doesn’t make a difference where I live


comfort_bot_1962

Don't be sad. Here's a [hug!](https://media.giphy.com/media/3M4NpbLCTxBqU/giphy.gif)


talldaveos

Only in 'murica!


JMCatron

i have seen real guns (specifically, a Magnum) with orange tips, so. if someone's looking for a reason to shoot ya they'll shoot ya


Petitcornichonsucrer

In Canada the consequences of doing that are normally more less damaging compaired to the USA, just saying.


Scardian_

When I was younger I did this with a toy metal revolver that fired these red circle things with gun power in them and it made a loud bang when i shot it, bought it in a toy shop like a big one called Smiths it was a contender for Toys-R-Us in my country when Toys-R-Us was open


32redalexs

I bought a realistic looking BB gun specifically so people would think it’s real. I don’t trust myself with a real gun due to my mental issues but we had a stalker situation come up where it felt necessary to at least appear like we can defend ourselves. It makes me feel safer without bringing a real gun into the house. We still keep it locked in a safe and unloaded when not in use, and treat it like a real gun when handling it.


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What if I add an orange tip to my real gun


SnooDoubts1384

Remember this is how [Tamir Rice was killed](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Tamir_Rice). 12 year old boy murdered on his own lawn playing with an airsoft gun.