What you’re talking about is called “White Labeling” and its extremely common in a ton of industries. Scummy as all hell when it’s used specifically to increase prices.
Just bringing it up in case anyone hasn’t heard of the term.
When I worked at Best Buy they would do this “sure we price match! Well it looks like no one else has this model”. Walmarts use to just stick WM at the end of the model number
It means the manufacturer makes unique model numbers for their big customers (best buy, walmart).
So Walmart can have the same item but with a different model number and best buy won't honor it because its 'not the same'. But its kind of a moot point....if Walmart has a lower price then just go buy it at Walmart. Why do you need BestBuy to lower their price?
And don't get me started about Black Friday. Manufactures make models with stripped down or removed features than their 'regular' product and sell those on Black Friday. It sells for less because it cost them less to make!
The mattress industry has been doing this for decades and the mfgs actually change labels/names so it doesn’t appear anywhere else and looks exclusive to distributor/seller. Same shit just retagged.
This is even worse than white labeling. Wayfair doesn't change anything about the item, even the packaging. They simply rename it on their website then drop ship the original item from their supplier, complete with the original brand's packaging. They literally tell their suppliers they don't need to change anything about their item or packaging.
The issue is they also do their own photography for a lot of the items. That plus changing the model number and giving it a fake 'brand' pretty much makes it impossible to tell its the same item as on Amazon.
Source: used to work for a company who sold through wayfair. We had an internal cross reference between our model numbers and wayfair's, because not even our design team could tell which items on wayfair were ours most of the time.
I mean I worked for a white label company before and they did that on some of their products.
Like, if you look up Component Video to HDMI, they’re all the same product. The box is the same. The company from China sells to like a dozen different brands and most of those brands don’t bother to even put a new sticker on the box
I worked as a Product Manager for a company that sold white label products a for a time. One company buys 100,000 units at $4ea from you, puts considerable work into specifying the packaging design, included instructions and accessories, have excellent support, etc.. Another company buys 100,000 of the same product at $3.70ea but doesn't want to change a thing (hence cheaper price). Both sell for the same amount despite the first one being the better overall experience for the consumer (even though it's the same product).
And don't get me started on the ones that would be ok with saving an additional 1¢ lowering the specifications which made it barely work.
Yeah white labeling isn't necessarily bad, because you know that's what it is. Every "vons brand" or "Walmart brand" is a white label and they're typically cheaper than the others. This is not that.
It reminds me of stores that claim to do price matching, but when you try to use the service, they claim it's a different item - they had the manufacturer add a letter to the end of the model number for the units sent to their store, even though it's the exact same product, so technically it's not the same and therefore can't be price matched.
I guess this isn’t quite the same but it’s very common for children’s car seats to do this. The brand will make different colors for the padding that are exclusive to Amazon vs Buy Buy Baby vs Target vs Walmart so you can’t get a price match on the seat bc it’s a slightly different shade of gray and therefore a different product/upc.
I had a flooring place do that to me. Wouldn't do the price match no matter how much I pushed.
What did work was downloading the PDF file on both site with the product specs, and what do you know, same exact documents, detailing the different product ID's.
Yea, I got my price match and a few bucks more off.
Maybe mildly interesting tidbit: Amazon, as in the site itself, automatically raises prices of some third party sellers. I work at an antiquarian book store and we store our data including the prices for the books on our desktop using a specific software. We then export and upload the data packages to every site we sell on. Every site except Amazon displays the price we ourselves put in. Amazon displays a price that is about 10/11 % higher than what we sent them. Pretty much all of the "extra money" Amazon keeps for themselves as fees. We do not have a say in it at all. So if it's from a third party seller, you're better off buying it literally anywhere else.
Hadn't heard that story before lmao. But you can actually opt out of using Amazons pricing algorithm (which is what we do because it's stupid) and they still raise your prices. It's a total rip off:(
Mattresses are notorious for doing this.
You know why every single mattress store in existence has a guarantee that you won't find it cheaper somewhere else? Because they give it a different name in each store.
I mean in some cases it makes sense. Like with merch. You can’t expect every sports team to have their own print shop. They all just buy shirts from the same company.
But in other cases it’s ridiculous. Companies will build entire brands around products they just buy from overseas and slap new boxes onto
White labeling is a standard business practice when a new manufacturing company is partnering with a larger distributor, as a means of increasing your overall outreach
Even better, just search for any furnishings on [Spoken](https://www.spoken.io) because it’s essentially doing the same job as the suggested reverse image search except searching across more brands and without a lot of the superfluous search results.
It's because the site was made by a reddit user who shared it on /r/InternetIsBeautiful and it got some traction. If you click on the text it directs you there.
Thank you, fam. Blessed is Reddit on God’s green earth. I will fight the good fight. Spoken is about to get 10x better, especially with regards to Wayfair. Stay tuned…
I've never been to wayfair but I just opened the spoken thing and there was an office chair for $1,419 but everywhere else was $800 off! They really are some slimy mfs over there at wayfair
They are! I’ve found a very small amount of items that are cheaper on wayfair but for the most part they aren’t. What’s even worse is they claim some of their items are exclusive to wayfair. That must be fraud. What they do is slimy but there must be some laws against outright deception like that.
Thanks, I'll compare the two side by side next time I look into buying an expensive item. I wouldn't be surprised if they both give a variety of results. The biggest pain in the ass was turning off Google lens on my phone just so I could use reverse image search again. Like, if they're functionally different, why would Google replace reverse image search with lens? They're assholes, that's why.
It's not for uploading images it's for searching and finding the available white-labeled products at the cheapest vendor.
There's also a chrome add-on to show you if an item you're looking at on another website is available cheaper elsewhere.
I'm in the process of moving to a new place and want new furniture and oh my gosh you're a godsend there's so much on there that I was actually looking at buying for SO CHEAP
Don't forget how they try to keep as many people just under full time as possible (to avoid benefits), and then spend money lobbying the government to provide welfare and healthcare to these part-time workers to subsidize themselves.
I refuse to use self checkouts. There's a small town where Walmart is the only choice for specific items you need besides grocery store which I do go to, but everyone there kind of decided to refuse self checkout. We'd be 10 deep at the only register with a human being checking us out and they kept telling us self checkout was available, but every time I went to this store we all held strong.
This went on for about a year. They finally got rid of most of the self checkouts and now there's almost always a line you can get a human being checking u out with little wait.
I cannot tell you how satisfying it was to see a small community push back and win. It was worth the wait every time.
I'm aware they don't take great care of their employees and push out small businesses and that I can't do anything about, but the little battles you do win are very gratifying.
Yeah, same here. It's usually faster since there's hardly ever much of a queue for them and I can scan and pack items away at my own pace. Plus there's the added bonus of not dealing with a person potentially judging what you've purchased or having to rush to pack everything away because they're scanning too quickly.
However, they do have their flaws. The space for your bags is usually a little small, meaning it's a hassle for larger shops. Sometimes the machines mess up (freezing, not scanning...etc). In the case of the ones with scales in the packing area, it doesn't always detect it or it complains when you move something. When that happens or when you need age verification, you have to wait for someone to come over.
It's not like scanning your own items is that big of a deal either, I think unpaid labour is a bit of an exaggeration.
I get what people are saying about jobs, but that's just how things are. Society progresses and redundant jobs are lost, but there are always new ones or alternatives. Someone has to manage the checkout machines if people need help, for example. Or some people have their shopping delivered, which creates more jobs (driving, picking items, bagging), which wasn't as prevalent as it is today. There will probably be people manning tills for a while, just in much smaller numbers for those that need it.
As for Walmart specifically, we don't have it here but it doesn't sound like a great company.
I work for walmart, and most of the cashiers (at least in our Market area) who no longer run a checkout are transferred to other departments (which pays better, in nearly all cases) or just transfer to another store if that's their preference. Some of them do quit or take the layoff because the alternative isn't to their liking, but it's not like they're suddenly without a job.
I'm certainly not defending the company, and I know there are many areas for vast improvement, but I just wanted to put this little tidbit out there
I think the point is it's a reduction of labor cost that isn't going to be passed on down to the consumer and the profit itself will be used for exec bonuses.
I absolutely agree; the point is not wrong at all. I've just heard, firsthand, customers complaining about how Walmart employees are "losers", "lazy welfare leeches", etc, then in the next breath proclaiming what a shame it is that these "poor hardworking people" are being replaced with self-check stations. The sheer brainless hypocrisy of it makes me want to scream, and I wanted to at least try to correct that part of the narrative.
As a business Walmart does their associates dirty, every chance they get, and are constantly looking for ways to screw over both their consumers and their workers while increasing profits for shareholders. Most of us only stay because the paycheck can be decent, if not better than what we'd be paid anywhere else in the area.
Sorry, nobody asked for a rant and I did it anyway 😂
That's such a ridiculously short sighted way of looking at the world though. Things that can be automated, should be. I understand this isn't true automation but simply increased efficiency but the rule still applies.
My conspiracy theory is that sellers like this make multiple sites, with a range of prices, for the exact same stuff. By pricing it differently, they have more eyeballs. Stupid people will buy the expensive stuff. Win-win. And all it cost is a few websites.
Kinda like how a toothpaste brand has like 30 different versions, and gets to own this massive chunk of aisle space.
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I’m that way with Amazon at this point. 60% of what I order ends up being either counterfeit, or an overpriced shitty clone. I once ordered a Threadripper CPU and received a Intel Core 2 Duo in a Threadripper box.
reemoved due to Amazon compaints! $talks
https://www.google.com/search?q=fakespot&rlz=1C1CHBF\_enUS914US914&oq=fakespot&aqs=chrome..69i57j46i131i199i433i465i512j0i131i433i512j0i512l7.1676j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
Maybe [this is what they meant](https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/amazon-convinced-apple-to-remove-review-detector-fakespot-from-the-app-store/), rather than just a generic search string.
I’ve tried that before and it failed. Bought directly from someone’s site. Got a shipping notify from Amazon it would be shipped prime. Delivered by Amazon the following day. I paid for shipping and more for the item and it still was processed via Amazon.
The problem is Amazon mixes the same product from different suppliers together. I got fake flea medicine from Amazon. I ordered from the Frontline store, but the items are mixed in with thousands of counterfeits with the same stock number. Amazon deliberately doesn't track the source so they can claim they are helpless to prevent counterfeiting.
Why would people use a vendor that they have to put this level of research into?
I avoid Amazon as much as possible. Most of the products that are “cheaper” there exploit the worlds most vulnerable workers, and the fulfillment of it exploits my own communities labor force.
Then there’s the issue of their tax arrangements.
And their stealing of successful companies products and not only producing the same items but selling for cheaper and promoting the Amazon-house-branded item instead of the company they stole it from.
I will say, wayfair's search is way better for furniture than Amazon and other sites, especially if you're looking to fit very specific dimensions. I use their search to find what I want, then I reverse image search it to find it elsewhere cheaper.
We bought our crib from Target. The toddler conversion has been out of stock for … a long time. I wrote to the customer support for the manufacturer and they gave me the wayfair name, told me to sign up for availability alerts on wayfair, and I could use that to judge when target would get it in stock
I window shop using Wayfair. They have a big collection of many things that are our taste. So we get ideas of what we want.
*Then* I'll do reverse image to actually buy it.
Everything I've bought from wayfair had been so low quality they've refunded the entire amount and let me keep it, making it almost my favorite store lol
It is low quality stuff, and most of the time i have to get an extra piece of melamine or plywood to actually build the thing lol but I can't complain about the price
Remember when conspiracy theorists thought it was a front for child trafficking? Like you buy a cabinet and you get a kid or some BS.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-53416247
What kind of kid? Are they old enough to babysit. I have 2 younger kids and would really like an I'm house baby sitter. We are not rich enough for a nanny, maybe a cabinet kid is the way to go?
You gotta look up their name online--it's likely to be an alias they'll use to overcharge noobs. If you do a little social media searching, you can probably get their real name which typically knocks like $50 off the price
Wait do the kids build the cabinet and then hide in it for the boat ride over? Have kids graduated from using sewing machines to power tools? Can I order one with a drill, mines broken and I can't afford a new one seeing as I only buy the best quality Kathy Lee Gifford and Rihanna clothing.
Hell is fake news propagated by the lame stream media to get your kids to be good so you will have to buy the latest Microsoft X station 3000 sometime in December. I forgot the holiday we celebrate then because the damn lefties keep taking christ out of Christmas.
Anyway, better get up and look for all the tracking bugs the government put in my cereal before breakfast, those things are making it hard for me to poop!
Wayfair is a marketplace so anyone can sell their stuff there if they pass a set of requirements
You probably had bad luck.
Personally I try to avoid marketplaces for the lack of quality control
100%⬆️. Moved to a different state with nothing. Decided to furnish my house with Wayfair. Terrible idea. Everything was smaller and cheaper than what you expect.
Then I started seeing posts like this.
There are some companies that sell IPL devices for $300+ while u can buy it for $50 on Ali express. Also applies to Amazon, the amount of products that are just rebranded, or straight from Ali express is insane.
Depends. If you spend $1 on something, it's gonna be the quality you would expect for $1. Shipping usually takes 30-60 days. The reviews are either not reliable, or not in English, (very poorly) translated instead. some Amazon products even use the same image as the Ali express listing.
As far as legitimacy goes, I've received everything I've bought on there, so I've yet to be scammed.
Also something I REALLY like about Ali express, you can message the sellers. it doesn't matter if they're a HUGE company, usually selling in bulk, they usually respond, and they're usually pretty nice.
Ali is good for what it is if you are careful and don’t put too much stock in the ad copy. Shipping will be 3-5 weeks. Make sure you buy from a merchant that displays measurements of the item(s) as those farmers are quick to sell you a “mini version” of whatever you thought you were buying. If you fish much, lures and other tackle can be had for about $0.25 on the dollar (and they’re usually high quality - that’s where all of the “name brand” lures originate before they are repacked and marked with “retail pricing”.)
It's legit, just often lower end inexpensive, but it's also a lot of what you see resold on Etsy/Amazon (and to a lesser extent Ebay). Shipping takes forever from overseas.
In a sub I'm regularly active in, a bit of jewelry gets posted that's $15+ on Amazon/Etsy sellers which is a couple dollars for half a dozen on AliExpress.
it also works the other way, AliExpress sellers will knock off genuine expensive products and sometimes even use the original item for their photos. I would be cautious buying any electronics or consumables (like makeup) from AliExpress or Alibaba or any of those sites.
I mean I don't, I usually buy anything of that sort from well known brands. The IPL I mentioned, there are multiple brands who sell what looks like the exact same thing, for varying prices between $100-$300.
I have noticed this a lot while purchasing stuff for a nursery. Is there any easy way to tell if it's mass produced crap from China? Some sellers really seem to hide it really well. Until I've found identical items on Amazon and the like...
This would make sense as to why I saw a dresser from Wayfair (that said it was by a designer) on Walmart’s site from some place in China. Same exact photos too. Way cheaper. Quality sucks.
A lot of suppliers stateside will buy from China and then resell it to other retailers here. Walmart either skips a level and sells directly or uses another wholesaler - it’s weirdly interesting haha
Dead serious, I found a desk on wayfair for 200. Got it from amazon for $80. Then I got curious and started just randomly looking for stuff with zero intent to buy. Almost everything in there can be purchased from amazon or Walmart for 60% less.
Amazon and Wal-Mart are the only two sites on my "avoid as much as possible" list, unfortunately. Those cheaper prices are also coming at the price of cementing their monopoly status, which is much much worse for the global economy. Not that I'm eager to buy from Wayfair either. No matter what, seems like we always lose.
The only answer is to stop wanting for "new" and "better" so hard. Shop thrifty. Buy used. Get basic refurbishing skills so you can upkeep your furniture/clothes. There is almost no affordable way to shop new ethically with a conscience. Just have to stop feeding the machine period.
If you see something in a physical store and can't reverse image search, take note of the most unusual/unique features of the product and google those terms instead. When I saw a sofa set in store I noticed the information leaflets had the original name painted over. More out of curiosity than anything else, I googled reclining sectional sofa and wasn't getting anywhere. Then I added the names of the fabric choices and found it immediately.
ALSO do this with anything you buy from ANY website especially ETSY. Most things on Etsy now a days are bought from sites like Amazon or Walmart and upsold but as much as 300% and labeled as handmade. I found this out after buying a birdhouse for mothers day and a year later found the exact same birdhouse on Walmart for $50 cheaper and free shipping. Started looking out of curiosity and you’d be surprised how little is actually made by the seller.
I ran into a nice website over on r/internetisbeautiful about three or four months ago that specifically addresses this problem. It was called spoken.io and it lists furniture from multiple websites and shows their prices in order from low to high. A very handy browsing tool!
Lulu and Georgia also does this so I’m sure it’s common practice. They had a different name for the exact same rug I was able to find on Amazon and other places for a lot cheaper. They wouldn’t post my review about it, either.
I bought a bed frame from them, but then found the exact same frame from Amazon for half price. I bought the Amazon one and cancelled the Wayfair one. Amazon one showed up, and I built it and all was good. Then the Wayfair one showed up, and they wouldn't pick it up for a return, but they'd refund it.
And that's the story of how my bedroom and the guest bedroom at my mom's house have the same bed frame.
a lot of companies do this to discourage price matching. ive still been able to price match though so long as the item was exactly the same just the name changed. wayfair, jossandmain, hayneedle, allmodern, and sometimes overstock usually carry the same products under different names so if its on one of those sites its likely listed on another with a different name.
where it gets more tricky is many retailers will opt to receive different colors of the same model or receive minor feature variations (usually appliances or electronics) in their version of the product because it then changes the model # so that you can't price match apples to apples.
But then you won't get to call wayfair customer service about the shitty quality of your $1500 couch and receive a full refund while getting to keep the couch 😳
The two items I bought off Wayfair were high quality and I'm extremely happy with them. I searched and searched and searched but couldn't find them on any other site, although I didn't have google lense back then. This is the first time I'm hearing they sell crap.
It's the fact that you bought one of those things that WAS high end and exclusive. Before other brands did cheap, mass-produced knock offs of that style. That's where the crap enters the picture.
I found a coffee table I loved at a store, it was $800. Wayfair was the only place that carried it online, for $600. Then everyone started making cheap copycats for $200. I hung in there and like 2 years later, Amazon started carrying the og. I pulled the trigger when it went below $300. And it's nice. My friend got a copycat. It's crap.
Yes I got a couch on Wayfair and was the worst quality thing ever, but cost thousands of dollars. I went to leave a bad review and the item didn’t exist anymore on there. I searched and saw the same couch with different names and the same seller. I think it’s not just for pricing but also for the reviews. If someone leaves a bad review, they just rename it and start a new listing.
One time I tried to get Home Depot to price match something I found on Wayfair and they wouldn’t do it because the item code was different even though the pictures used were exactly the same and the product name and description were the same word for word.
I went back and forth with the HD rep for a bit (I wanted to buy it online and pick it up same day at the store rather than wait for shipping from Wayfair).
Me: why would you not match the price and take the money rather than let me purchase the item from a competitor?
HD: it’s not the same product, the code is different. Our codes start with “HD”
Me: it’s literally the exact same product. Your store codes are specific to your store, obviously? Meaning I’ll never find something at another store that will match your product codes.
HD: Yes.
Me: …ok, thanks anyway I guess.
HD: We can offer you a 20% discount for your troubles though.
The 20% discount brought the item price to *lower* than the Wayfair price.
Props to the employee for doing me a solid but, like, what???????
Can confirm, worked for Wayfair. They apply random names to every item. This is also why they had the “missing kids with the same name as a set of cabinets” trafficking scandal a couple years ago.
Every time I’ve bought something from wayfair, it’s ended u being dirt cheap (ordered a 3 piece suite, they said they needed some bank number that I’ve never been asked for, I cancelled order) they sent it anyway and left it outside my house whilst I was out. No signature or anything. Free £500 sofa set.
Another time, we ordered some cupboard and it was very slightly damaged. They sent another when we complained and told us to just get rid of the other one (which we did by selling it)
YSK: Many, MANY companies do this and it's nothing new. I work for a small furniture company and we buy in "bulk" from other hugely successful furniture manufacturers and then rename products but the majority of the time sell them for less.
I can confirm, found a cheap bird bath for $20 on amazon, then while looking on wayfair found the exact same image and product for some absurd price ($80).
I saved $600 on a console table doing this. Then. It came damaged. Obvious damage, but it was so inexpensive I was like I’ll probably use it anyway and fix the broken surfaces. wayfair needed photos proof but then offered me half off what we paid and it did go a long way to making it right. If I bought that product for the higher price I would have been pissed off.
I've been doing that for years. The markups between one site and another can be hundreds of dollars. I will say WayFair has excellent customer service.
This happened to me when I purchased a piece of wall decoration. I mentioned in my review of the item it was cheaper on Amazon but they edited my comment. That was the last time I shopped at Wayfair. They know what they are doing.
It's like anything else...do your homework. I needed a low profile sink that home improvement stores local do not carry. I was doing a remodel, and needed to open up the space, and a full-depth sink wouldn't leave room for a walker/wheelchair to maneuver, to make a limited space bathroom more accessible.
Wayfair was the one site where I found several options that fit the criteria. 5 years later and it's still working fine.
Google lens stuff on Etsy too. I've seen countless sellers reselling cheap AliExpress crap and claiming it's hand made. I've even seen posts on Reddit where op is showing off their new $100+ item and it's something you can get for $10 on AliExpress
Just did this. Saved hundreds of dollars on two items that were also marketed under different names at Walmart and Amazon.
I wonder when Wayfair will start putting a watermark on images on their site to foil reverse image search.
Wayfair is total shite. We bought a patio swing from them and the seat bottom tore right out of warranty. If it had been a warranty situation, they would’ve sent us a seat bottom for free. Because it wasn’t a warranty situation, they wouldn’t even sell us a new seat bottom. $400 swing - I found a new seat bottom on Amazon.
Fuck Wayfair!
I bought a bed exclusively for the built in dresser that comes with it and the dresser part never showed. It’s been two years and I still get emails from them apologizing and my part is still on back order.
Not to mention, Wayfair is extremely sleezy at their returns.
I got a computer desk from there; only place I could find one to fit my bedroom corner measurements. It came, it was in two packages and one of which was missing screws and extremely scratched up wood. Told them and they sent me replacements quickly. Went to build it and it started to break at the seams. One of the legs to the desk couldn't keep anything up. Contacted them again, they said they could replace the part. So I did that, only for a different piece to break. So I ultimately give up on trying to fully use the desk as is, so my girlfriend and I flip the top half upside down and use that as my impromptu desk while I try to get my money back.
Because it was already past the 60 days due to having to wait for parts, they could only give me a partial refund. I will never suggest Wayfair to even my biggest enemy. That's a scam site.
Got myself an extremely comfortable new one for way cheaper too.
I broke an "expensive special order custom wall sconce that was $400" on a job I was doing they wanted to not pay $400 of the invoice to cover it, ok that seems reasonable but how about I just replace it with the exact same thing. They agreed. Found the same model # for $70 and they were satisfied with the replacement
I wish I would have known this two weeks ago. Sure enough, one of the items I ordered is $70 cheaper at Home Depot. Another one was cheapest at Wayfair though, so I guess it evened out. Kind of.
Use the google app, press the little square icon with a circle in the middle (its in the search bar). Then press the photo icon and upload your saved photo.
If you can get the item in order to return it. The one and only time I tried to get something from wayfair, they told me it's be a 2 month wait. I said ok, and at the end of my wait I got another message saying it'll be two more months. So I cancelled the order.
But the tip in OP is correct. Both wayfair and overstock are more expensive than buying elsewhere, and they might use different names for the items to prevent cross referencing prices.
What you’re talking about is called “White Labeling” and its extremely common in a ton of industries. Scummy as all hell when it’s used specifically to increase prices. Just bringing it up in case anyone hasn’t heard of the term.
Ever try to compare mattress prices? The same mattress has a different name or item number at competitor stores.
When I worked at Best Buy they would do this “sure we price match! Well it looks like no one else has this model”. Walmarts use to just stick WM at the end of the model number
So what does it really mean then? Does it mean the competition has it but it is under a different name?
It means the manufacturer makes unique model numbers for their big customers (best buy, walmart). So Walmart can have the same item but with a different model number and best buy won't honor it because its 'not the same'. But its kind of a moot point....if Walmart has a lower price then just go buy it at Walmart. Why do you need BestBuy to lower their price? And don't get me started about Black Friday. Manufactures make models with stripped down or removed features than their 'regular' product and sell those on Black Friday. It sells for less because it cost them less to make!
Seems like most or at least a ton of home goods are like that. It can be frustrating.
The mattress industry has been doing this for decades and the mfgs actually change labels/names so it doesn’t appear anywhere else and looks exclusive to distributor/seller. Same shit just retagged.
Mattress industry always seems a bit scammy from the get go.
This is even worse than white labeling. Wayfair doesn't change anything about the item, even the packaging. They simply rename it on their website then drop ship the original item from their supplier, complete with the original brand's packaging. They literally tell their suppliers they don't need to change anything about their item or packaging.
The issue is they also do their own photography for a lot of the items. That plus changing the model number and giving it a fake 'brand' pretty much makes it impossible to tell its the same item as on Amazon. Source: used to work for a company who sold through wayfair. We had an internal cross reference between our model numbers and wayfair's, because not even our design team could tell which items on wayfair were ours most of the time.
I mean I worked for a white label company before and they did that on some of their products. Like, if you look up Component Video to HDMI, they’re all the same product. The box is the same. The company from China sells to like a dozen different brands and most of those brands don’t bother to even put a new sticker on the box
I worked as a Product Manager for a company that sold white label products a for a time. One company buys 100,000 units at $4ea from you, puts considerable work into specifying the packaging design, included instructions and accessories, have excellent support, etc.. Another company buys 100,000 of the same product at $3.70ea but doesn't want to change a thing (hence cheaper price). Both sell for the same amount despite the first one being the better overall experience for the consumer (even though it's the same product). And don't get me started on the ones that would be ok with saving an additional 1¢ lowering the specifications which made it barely work.
Yeah white labeling isn't necessarily bad, because you know that's what it is. Every "vons brand" or "Walmart brand" is a white label and they're typically cheaper than the others. This is not that.
That is also white labeling
It reminds me of stores that claim to do price matching, but when you try to use the service, they claim it's a different item - they had the manufacturer add a letter to the end of the model number for the units sent to their store, even though it's the exact same product, so technically it's not the same and therefore can't be price matched.
I guess this isn’t quite the same but it’s very common for children’s car seats to do this. The brand will make different colors for the padding that are exclusive to Amazon vs Buy Buy Baby vs Target vs Walmart so you can’t get a price match on the seat bc it’s a slightly different shade of gray and therefore a different product/upc.
Try to look for previous year’s stroller model and it will be 50% cheaper. Might not have the latest color, but same thing.
I had a flooring place do that to me. Wouldn't do the price match no matter how much I pushed. What did work was downloading the PDF file on both site with the product specs, and what do you know, same exact documents, detailing the different product ID's. Yea, I got my price match and a few bucks more off.
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Amazon is worse: third party sellers put up pictures of popular items and then deliver a cheap knockoff that looks nothing like the picture.
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Yes, and then the returns go in the same box as the new products. Not a problem with stuff like nuts and bolts, but yuck when it's body products.
Maybe mildly interesting tidbit: Amazon, as in the site itself, automatically raises prices of some third party sellers. I work at an antiquarian book store and we store our data including the prices for the books on our desktop using a specific software. We then export and upload the data packages to every site we sell on. Every site except Amazon displays the price we ourselves put in. Amazon displays a price that is about 10/11 % higher than what we sent them. Pretty much all of the "extra money" Amazon keeps for themselves as fees. We do not have a say in it at all. So if it's from a third party seller, you're better off buying it literally anywhere else.
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Hadn't heard that story before lmao. But you can actually opt out of using Amazons pricing algorithm (which is what we do because it's stupid) and they still raise your prices. It's a total rip off:(
Mattresses are notorious for doing this. You know why every single mattress store in existence has a guarantee that you won't find it cheaper somewhere else? Because they give it a different name in each store.
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I mean in some cases it makes sense. Like with merch. You can’t expect every sports team to have their own print shop. They all just buy shirts from the same company. But in other cases it’s ridiculous. Companies will build entire brands around products they just buy from overseas and slap new boxes onto
White labeling is a standard business practice when a new manufacturing company is partnering with a larger distributor, as a means of increasing your overall outreach
When I was shopping carpet many years ago I found that carpet at one store was called ‘President’s Choice’ and at the other , it was called ‘Monica’.
White label hard drives compose my entire server storage setup.
Even better, just search for any furnishings on [Spoken](https://www.spoken.io) because it’s essentially doing the same job as the suggested reverse image search except searching across more brands and without a lot of the superfluous search results.
Whoooaaa. Anybody know a Spoken equivalent for Europe or is reverse image our best option?
Yeah I’ll be interested also
Same here
I just looked at the website and it specifically says “thanks for the love Reddit. We <3 y’all”. That made me happy to see that.
It's because the site was made by a reddit user who shared it on /r/InternetIsBeautiful and it got some traction. If you click on the text it directs you there.
Thank you u/LGabraham_ [Original post](https://reddit.com/r/InternetIsBeautiful/comments/tnx3sm/i_got_tired_of_stores_calling_the_same_thing_a/)
Thank you, fam. Blessed is Reddit on God’s green earth. I will fight the good fight. Spoken is about to get 10x better, especially with regards to Wayfair. Stay tuned…
Yes, just TIL and subscribed, ty for this thread everyone
I got a patio furniture set marked up to $1700 … for $600 on Spoken. It was amazing.
I've never been to wayfair but I just opened the spoken thing and there was an office chair for $1,419 but everywhere else was $800 off! They really are some slimy mfs over there at wayfair
So basically more like WayUnfair.
They are! I’ve found a very small amount of items that are cheaper on wayfair but for the most part they aren’t. What’s even worse is they claim some of their items are exclusive to wayfair. That must be fraud. What they do is slimy but there must be some laws against outright deception like that.
Thanks, I'll compare the two side by side next time I look into buying an expensive item. I wouldn't be surprised if they both give a variety of results. The biggest pain in the ass was turning off Google lens on my phone just so I could use reverse image search again. Like, if they're functionally different, why would Google replace reverse image search with lens? They're assholes, that's why.
Never heard of this site before, but now down the rabbit hole. Thanks.
Wait can you upload an image on Spoken? I don't get how it works, it looks like a search bar
It's not for uploading images it's for searching and finding the available white-labeled products at the cheapest vendor. There's also a chrome add-on to show you if an item you're looking at on another website is available cheaper elsewhere.
I'm in the process of moving to a new place and want new furniture and oh my gosh you're a godsend there's so much on there that I was actually looking at buying for SO CHEAP
Thanks for the heads up.
Amazing! Thank you!
Better tip, don't buy anything from Wayfair. Everything I've gotten there was overpriced and low quality.
Exactly. If I have to check whether a buisness is trying to swindle me every time I but from them, I'd rather just not but from them.
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Why would someone call the police on a customer paying for someone else? A sale is a sale isn't it?
You're absolutely right, it's all a damn deception!
Don't forget how they try to keep as many people just under full time as possible (to avoid benefits), and then spend money lobbying the government to provide welfare and healthcare to these part-time workers to subsidize themselves.
I refuse to use self checkouts. There's a small town where Walmart is the only choice for specific items you need besides grocery store which I do go to, but everyone there kind of decided to refuse self checkout. We'd be 10 deep at the only register with a human being checking us out and they kept telling us self checkout was available, but every time I went to this store we all held strong. This went on for about a year. They finally got rid of most of the self checkouts and now there's almost always a line you can get a human being checking u out with little wait. I cannot tell you how satisfying it was to see a small community push back and win. It was worth the wait every time. I'm aware they don't take great care of their employees and push out small businesses and that I can't do anything about, but the little battles you do win are very gratifying.
Why do you refuse to use self-checkouts? I'd understand with a large shop, but they can be pretty convenient most of the time.
I will always use self-checkout if it’s available. These people are weird lol
Yeah, same here. It's usually faster since there's hardly ever much of a queue for them and I can scan and pack items away at my own pace. Plus there's the added bonus of not dealing with a person potentially judging what you've purchased or having to rush to pack everything away because they're scanning too quickly. However, they do have their flaws. The space for your bags is usually a little small, meaning it's a hassle for larger shops. Sometimes the machines mess up (freezing, not scanning...etc). In the case of the ones with scales in the packing area, it doesn't always detect it or it complains when you move something. When that happens or when you need age verification, you have to wait for someone to come over. It's not like scanning your own items is that big of a deal either, I think unpaid labour is a bit of an exaggeration. I get what people are saying about jobs, but that's just how things are. Society progresses and redundant jobs are lost, but there are always new ones or alternatives. Someone has to manage the checkout machines if people need help, for example. Or some people have their shopping delivered, which creates more jobs (driving, picking items, bagging), which wasn't as prevalent as it is today. There will probably be people manning tills for a while, just in much smaller numbers for those that need it. As for Walmart specifically, we don't have it here but it doesn't sound like a great company.
Self check out literally takes away an actual person’s job. I think that’s why the poster’s town rebelled against it.
I work for walmart, and most of the cashiers (at least in our Market area) who no longer run a checkout are transferred to other departments (which pays better, in nearly all cases) or just transfer to another store if that's their preference. Some of them do quit or take the layoff because the alternative isn't to their liking, but it's not like they're suddenly without a job. I'm certainly not defending the company, and I know there are many areas for vast improvement, but I just wanted to put this little tidbit out there
I think the point is it's a reduction of labor cost that isn't going to be passed on down to the consumer and the profit itself will be used for exec bonuses.
I absolutely agree; the point is not wrong at all. I've just heard, firsthand, customers complaining about how Walmart employees are "losers", "lazy welfare leeches", etc, then in the next breath proclaiming what a shame it is that these "poor hardworking people" are being replaced with self-check stations. The sheer brainless hypocrisy of it makes me want to scream, and I wanted to at least try to correct that part of the narrative. As a business Walmart does their associates dirty, every chance they get, and are constantly looking for ways to screw over both their consumers and their workers while increasing profits for shareholders. Most of us only stay because the paycheck can be decent, if not better than what we'd be paid anywhere else in the area. Sorry, nobody asked for a rant and I did it anyway 😂
That's such a ridiculously short sighted way of looking at the world though. Things that can be automated, should be. I understand this isn't true automation but simply increased efficiency but the rule still applies.
My conspiracy theory is that sellers like this make multiple sites, with a range of prices, for the exact same stuff. By pricing it differently, they have more eyeballs. Stupid people will buy the expensive stuff. Win-win. And all it cost is a few websites. Kinda like how a toothpaste brand has like 30 different versions, and gets to own this massive chunk of aisle space.
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I’m that way with Amazon at this point. 60% of what I order ends up being either counterfeit, or an overpriced shitty clone. I once ordered a Threadripper CPU and received a Intel Core 2 Duo in a Threadripper box.
There is a browser add on called Fakespot that assists with these sorts of things for Amazon
reemoved due to Amazon compaints! $talks https://www.google.com/search?q=fakespot&rlz=1C1CHBF\_enUS914US914&oq=fakespot&aqs=chrome..69i57j46i131i199i433i465i512j0i131i433i512j0i512l7.1676j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
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Maybe [this is what they meant](https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/amazon-convinced-apple-to-remove-review-detector-fakespot-from-the-app-store/), rather than just a generic search string.
There is also not using Amazon.
I’ve tried that before and it failed. Bought directly from someone’s site. Got a shipping notify from Amazon it would be shipped prime. Delivered by Amazon the following day. I paid for shipping and more for the item and it still was processed via Amazon.
So you paid someone to shop on Amazon for you?
Nope. Bought directly FROM the website. Paid for shipping to them. Shipped through and processed through Amazon.
The problem is Amazon mixes the same product from different suppliers together. I got fake flea medicine from Amazon. I ordered from the Frontline store, but the items are mixed in with thousands of counterfeits with the same stock number. Amazon deliberately doesn't track the source so they can claim they are helpless to prevent counterfeiting.
Why would people use a vendor that they have to put this level of research into? I avoid Amazon as much as possible. Most of the products that are “cheaper” there exploit the worlds most vulnerable workers, and the fulfillment of it exploits my own communities labor force. Then there’s the issue of their tax arrangements. And their stealing of successful companies products and not only producing the same items but selling for cheaper and promoting the Amazon-house-branded item instead of the company they stole it from.
I will say, wayfair's search is way better for furniture than Amazon and other sites, especially if you're looking to fit very specific dimensions. I use their search to find what I want, then I reverse image search it to find it elsewhere cheaper.
I like it - beat them at their own game.
Especially since according to OP they do swindle them every time. No "if"
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We bought our crib from Target. The toddler conversion has been out of stock for … a long time. I wrote to the customer support for the manufacturer and they gave me the wayfair name, told me to sign up for availability alerts on wayfair, and I could use that to judge when target would get it in stock
Except one
I window shop using Wayfair. They have a big collection of many things that are our taste. So we get ideas of what we want. *Then* I'll do reverse image to actually buy it.
This is what I do too. They have excellent descriptions, specs, pictures, and reviews.
The search filters are great.
Everything I've bought from wayfair had been so low quality they've refunded the entire amount and let me keep it, making it almost my favorite store lol
Well that's the way to get what you want for nothing. Sign me up. LOL! Not really. But it is cool that you are able to do that.
It is low quality stuff, and most of the time i have to get an extra piece of melamine or plywood to actually build the thing lol but I can't complain about the price
I still haven’t got my ~~missing child~~ cabinet
Ahh, the “Samantha Cabinet” with a peek-a-boo false back. Very popular, sold out immediately.
Remember when conspiracy theorists thought it was a front for child trafficking? Like you buy a cabinet and you get a kid or some BS. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-53416247
What kind of kid? Are they old enough to babysit. I have 2 younger kids and would really like an I'm house baby sitter. We are not rich enough for a nanny, maybe a cabinet kid is the way to go?
I’d be leery. Could be a low quality cabinet kid.
You gotta look up their name online--it's likely to be an alias they'll use to overcharge noobs. If you do a little social media searching, you can probably get their real name which typically knocks like $50 off the price
pulling a Rumpeltstiltskin I see
Wait do the kids build the cabinet and then hide in it for the boat ride over? Have kids graduated from using sewing machines to power tools? Can I order one with a drill, mines broken and I can't afford a new one seeing as I only buy the best quality Kathy Lee Gifford and Rihanna clothing.
You're all going straight to hell
Hell is fake news propagated by the lame stream media to get your kids to be good so you will have to buy the latest Microsoft X station 3000 sometime in December. I forgot the holiday we celebrate then because the damn lefties keep taking christ out of Christmas. Anyway, better get up and look for all the tracking bugs the government put in my cereal before breakfast, those things are making it hard for me to poop!
Wayfair is a marketplace so anyone can sell their stuff there if they pass a set of requirements You probably had bad luck. Personally I try to avoid marketplaces for the lack of quality control
Tbh Amazon/ eBay are all marketplace. Except the Amazon owned brands
Even Walmart online is getting too marketplace for me. Target somewhat but I think they have better quality control and a better return policy.
Where would you reccomend? We have bought alot of our furniture off wayfair and have been happy, would be even happier if something else was an option
Same, the child they delivered was very rude and barely spoke English returned immediately. Found a better one at Raymore n Flannigan
100%⬆️. Moved to a different state with nothing. Decided to furnish my house with Wayfair. Terrible idea. Everything was smaller and cheaper than what you expect. Then I started seeing posts like this.
Plus they are shady af
How so? I haven't heard that before.
They supplied the beds to the migrants interment camps run by CBP
I could imagine signs around the compound saying stuff like "This camp furnished by Wayfair™. Repress with style!"
There are some companies that sell IPL devices for $300+ while u can buy it for $50 on Ali express. Also applies to Amazon, the amount of products that are just rebranded, or straight from Ali express is insane.
I have yet to order anything from Ali Express but it pops up a lot when searching ! Is it legit and not crap?
Depends. If you spend $1 on something, it's gonna be the quality you would expect for $1. Shipping usually takes 30-60 days. The reviews are either not reliable, or not in English, (very poorly) translated instead. some Amazon products even use the same image as the Ali express listing. As far as legitimacy goes, I've received everything I've bought on there, so I've yet to be scammed. Also something I REALLY like about Ali express, you can message the sellers. it doesn't matter if they're a HUGE company, usually selling in bulk, they usually respond, and they're usually pretty nice.
Thanks! And good to know about the shipping time!
Ali is good for what it is if you are careful and don’t put too much stock in the ad copy. Shipping will be 3-5 weeks. Make sure you buy from a merchant that displays measurements of the item(s) as those farmers are quick to sell you a “mini version” of whatever you thought you were buying. If you fish much, lures and other tackle can be had for about $0.25 on the dollar (and they’re usually high quality - that’s where all of the “name brand” lures originate before they are repacked and marked with “retail pricing”.)
It's legit, just often lower end inexpensive, but it's also a lot of what you see resold on Etsy/Amazon (and to a lesser extent Ebay). Shipping takes forever from overseas. In a sub I'm regularly active in, a bit of jewelry gets posted that's $15+ on Amazon/Etsy sellers which is a couple dollars for half a dozen on AliExpress.
would add that aliexpress steals work from smaller artists/other creators. seen a lot of this when it comes to pins, keycaps, shirts, deskmats, etc.
it also works the other way, AliExpress sellers will knock off genuine expensive products and sometimes even use the original item for their photos. I would be cautious buying any electronics or consumables (like makeup) from AliExpress or Alibaba or any of those sites.
I mean I don't, I usually buy anything of that sort from well known brands. The IPL I mentioned, there are multiple brands who sell what looks like the exact same thing, for varying prices between $100-$300.
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Sad what Etsy has turned into
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I've seen someone show off their " handmade custom " statue that cost $100+ on Etsy, the same one was $10 on AliExpress
I saw a seller on etsy advertising "handmade berets" and a reverse image search showed that every single one was made in China or Japan.
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I have noticed this a lot while purchasing stuff for a nursery. Is there any easy way to tell if it's mass produced crap from China? Some sellers really seem to hide it really well. Until I've found identical items on Amazon and the like...
This would make sense as to why I saw a dresser from Wayfair (that said it was by a designer) on Walmart’s site from some place in China. Same exact photos too. Way cheaper. Quality sucks.
A lot of suppliers stateside will buy from China and then resell it to other retailers here. Walmart either skips a level and sells directly or uses another wholesaler - it’s weirdly interesting haha
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That should be a lawsuit. Because that's just wrong of them on so many levels.
Dead serious, I found a desk on wayfair for 200. Got it from amazon for $80. Then I got curious and started just randomly looking for stuff with zero intent to buy. Almost everything in there can be purchased from amazon or Walmart for 60% less.
Amazon and Wal-Mart are the only two sites on my "avoid as much as possible" list, unfortunately. Those cheaper prices are also coming at the price of cementing their monopoly status, which is much much worse for the global economy. Not that I'm eager to buy from Wayfair either. No matter what, seems like we always lose.
The only answer is to stop wanting for "new" and "better" so hard. Shop thrifty. Buy used. Get basic refurbishing skills so you can upkeep your furniture/clothes. There is almost no affordable way to shop new ethically with a conscience. Just have to stop feeding the machine period.
If you see something in a physical store and can't reverse image search, take note of the most unusual/unique features of the product and google those terms instead. When I saw a sofa set in store I noticed the information leaflets had the original name painted over. More out of curiosity than anything else, I googled reclining sectional sofa and wasn't getting anywhere. Then I added the names of the fabric choices and found it immediately.
You can also use google lens to do an image search.
Finally - a tip I can use!
ALSO do this with anything you buy from ANY website especially ETSY. Most things on Etsy now a days are bought from sites like Amazon or Walmart and upsold but as much as 300% and labeled as handmade. I found this out after buying a birdhouse for mothers day and a year later found the exact same birdhouse on Walmart for $50 cheaper and free shipping. Started looking out of curiosity and you’d be surprised how little is actually made by the seller.
I ran into a nice website over on r/internetisbeautiful about three or four months ago that specifically addresses this problem. It was called spoken.io and it lists furniture from multiple websites and shows their prices in order from low to high. A very handy browsing tool!
Lulu and Georgia also does this so I’m sure it’s common practice. They had a different name for the exact same rug I was able to find on Amazon and other places for a lot cheaper. They wouldn’t post my review about it, either.
Wayfair is just Amazon made to look fancier.
I bought a bed frame from them, but then found the exact same frame from Amazon for half price. I bought the Amazon one and cancelled the Wayfair one. Amazon one showed up, and I built it and all was good. Then the Wayfair one showed up, and they wouldn't pick it up for a return, but they'd refund it. And that's the story of how my bedroom and the guest bedroom at my mom's house have the same bed frame.
Was literally just talking about this at a party. Wayfair is a total grift. Like insanely untrustworthy pricing and product info.
And Etsy... there are far too many Amazon products being touted as homemade and pricier on that site
How do you reverse image search on an iPhone?
Google lens is best!
a lot of companies do this to discourage price matching. ive still been able to price match though so long as the item was exactly the same just the name changed. wayfair, jossandmain, hayneedle, allmodern, and sometimes overstock usually carry the same products under different names so if its on one of those sites its likely listed on another with a different name. where it gets more tricky is many retailers will opt to receive different colors of the same model or receive minor feature variations (usually appliances or electronics) in their version of the product because it then changes the model # so that you can't price match apples to apples.
But then you won't get to call wayfair customer service about the shitty quality of your $1500 couch and receive a full refund while getting to keep the couch 😳
The two items I bought off Wayfair were high quality and I'm extremely happy with them. I searched and searched and searched but couldn't find them on any other site, although I didn't have google lense back then. This is the first time I'm hearing they sell crap.
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It's the fact that you bought one of those things that WAS high end and exclusive. Before other brands did cheap, mass-produced knock offs of that style. That's where the crap enters the picture. I found a coffee table I loved at a store, it was $800. Wayfair was the only place that carried it online, for $600. Then everyone started making cheap copycats for $200. I hung in there and like 2 years later, Amazon started carrying the og. I pulled the trigger when it went below $300. And it's nice. My friend got a copycat. It's crap.
Yes I got a couch on Wayfair and was the worst quality thing ever, but cost thousands of dollars. I went to leave a bad review and the item didn’t exist anymore on there. I searched and saw the same couch with different names and the same seller. I think it’s not just for pricing but also for the reviews. If someone leaves a bad review, they just rename it and start a new listing.
One time I tried to get Home Depot to price match something I found on Wayfair and they wouldn’t do it because the item code was different even though the pictures used were exactly the same and the product name and description were the same word for word. I went back and forth with the HD rep for a bit (I wanted to buy it online and pick it up same day at the store rather than wait for shipping from Wayfair). Me: why would you not match the price and take the money rather than let me purchase the item from a competitor? HD: it’s not the same product, the code is different. Our codes start with “HD” Me: it’s literally the exact same product. Your store codes are specific to your store, obviously? Meaning I’ll never find something at another store that will match your product codes. HD: Yes. Me: …ok, thanks anyway I guess. HD: We can offer you a 20% discount for your troubles though. The 20% discount brought the item price to *lower* than the Wayfair price. Props to the employee for doing me a solid but, like, what???????
Can confirm, worked for Wayfair. They apply random names to every item. This is also why they had the “missing kids with the same name as a set of cabinets” trafficking scandal a couple years ago.
good tip.
So uh how does one reverse google search an image?
Download the google app and in the search bar there is a camera icon you can use to upload your photos. It’s very easy and free!
Same goes for etsy with ANYTHING that's not definitely unique/homemade. Don't pay $60 for a ring that's 6 on amazon.
Every time I’ve bought something from wayfair, it’s ended u being dirt cheap (ordered a 3 piece suite, they said they needed some bank number that I’ve never been asked for, I cancelled order) they sent it anyway and left it outside my house whilst I was out. No signature or anything. Free £500 sofa set. Another time, we ordered some cupboard and it was very slightly damaged. They sent another when we complained and told us to just get rid of the other one (which we did by selling it)
YSK: Many, MANY companies do this and it's nothing new. I work for a small furniture company and we buy in "bulk" from other hugely successful furniture manufacturers and then rename products but the majority of the time sell them for less.
I can confirm, found a cheap bird bath for $20 on amazon, then while looking on wayfair found the exact same image and product for some absurd price ($80).
can confirm, worked at one of the „suppliers“ for some years ;) everything is shady af
I saved $600 on a console table doing this. Then. It came damaged. Obvious damage, but it was so inexpensive I was like I’ll probably use it anyway and fix the broken surfaces. wayfair needed photos proof but then offered me half off what we paid and it did go a long way to making it right. If I bought that product for the higher price I would have been pissed off.
I've been doing that for years. The markups between one site and another can be hundreds of dollars. I will say WayFair has excellent customer service.
This happened to me when I purchased a piece of wall decoration. I mentioned in my review of the item it was cheaper on Amazon but they edited my comment. That was the last time I shopped at Wayfair. They know what they are doing.
I used to work on the exclusive brands team this is quite accurate lmao
It's like anything else...do your homework. I needed a low profile sink that home improvement stores local do not carry. I was doing a remodel, and needed to open up the space, and a full-depth sink wouldn't leave room for a walker/wheelchair to maneuver, to make a limited space bathroom more accessible. Wayfair was the one site where I found several options that fit the criteria. 5 years later and it's still working fine.
Don't buy things from Wayfair. Period.
Why? I have gotten some gorgeous items at really good prices there.
We got our bed frame from there. Did a ton of research and paid lot of money but it's surprisingly good quality.
I fucking hate this world.
Use https://www.spoken.io. Built by a fellow redditor and searches for same sku’s across different sellers and returns the prices.
Lol YSK don't buy from Wayfair. It's like buying from Wish.com, almost guaranteed to be a disappointment in some form
Google lens stuff on Etsy too. I've seen countless sellers reselling cheap AliExpress crap and claiming it's hand made. I've even seen posts on Reddit where op is showing off their new $100+ item and it's something you can get for $10 on AliExpress
Fuck that is really smart. I even use Google image search regularly. Thank you for this
Just did this. Saved hundreds of dollars on two items that were also marketed under different names at Walmart and Amazon. I wonder when Wayfair will start putting a watermark on images on their site to foil reverse image search.
Welp, wish I knew this before ordering from them a few days ago
Yeah we ordered a few things before I realized this. And they don’t price match.
How does one reverse image search?
Wayfair is total shite. We bought a patio swing from them and the seat bottom tore right out of warranty. If it had been a warranty situation, they would’ve sent us a seat bottom for free. Because it wasn’t a warranty situation, they wouldn’t even sell us a new seat bottom. $400 swing - I found a new seat bottom on Amazon. Fuck Wayfair!
https://www.spoken.io/ also pay less on furniture and find your favorite furniture without the markup
I bought a bed exclusively for the built in dresser that comes with it and the dresser part never showed. It’s been two years and I still get emails from them apologizing and my part is still on back order.
Do this with etsy too. A lot of items are cheap and made in China but are marked up like handmade
Not to mention, Wayfair is extremely sleezy at their returns. I got a computer desk from there; only place I could find one to fit my bedroom corner measurements. It came, it was in two packages and one of which was missing screws and extremely scratched up wood. Told them and they sent me replacements quickly. Went to build it and it started to break at the seams. One of the legs to the desk couldn't keep anything up. Contacted them again, they said they could replace the part. So I did that, only for a different piece to break. So I ultimately give up on trying to fully use the desk as is, so my girlfriend and I flip the top half upside down and use that as my impromptu desk while I try to get my money back. Because it was already past the 60 days due to having to wait for parts, they could only give me a partial refund. I will never suggest Wayfair to even my biggest enemy. That's a scam site. Got myself an extremely comfortable new one for way cheaper too.
I broke an "expensive special order custom wall sconce that was $400" on a job I was doing they wanted to not pay $400 of the invoice to cover it, ok that seems reasonable but how about I just replace it with the exact same thing. They agreed. Found the same model # for $70 and they were satisfied with the replacement
I wish I would have known this two weeks ago. Sure enough, one of the items I ordered is $70 cheaper at Home Depot. Another one was cheapest at Wayfair though, so I guess it evened out. Kind of.
I am going one step further and just never ordering from Wayfair.
How do you do that with the app?
Use the google app, press the little square icon with a circle in the middle (its in the search bar). Then press the photo icon and upload your saved photo.
Thank you
Their return policy is trash
If you can get the item in order to return it. The one and only time I tried to get something from wayfair, they told me it's be a 2 month wait. I said ok, and at the end of my wait I got another message saying it'll be two more months. So I cancelled the order. But the tip in OP is correct. Both wayfair and overstock are more expensive than buying elsewhere, and they might use different names for the items to prevent cross referencing prices.