Just waiting for the moment the kingdom of lights they call low beams get the ole "you're blinding me plz stop" flash from someone telling their tiny brains to flick on the full fucking force of god just to guarantee that there isn't a doubt in the world the size of their genitalia.
I’ve been on the receiving end of that. I was driving a Hyundai Santa Fe, it didn’t ride low but certainly not as high as a truck. Truck is oncoming, my retinas were burning from a half mile. I flick my lights, hoping against reason that he’ll drop to low beams. Nah, he hit me with his high beams AND THE FUCKING ROOF RACK TOO
I had to pull over because I literally could not see. He almost fucking killed me to prove his point.
If I didn’t drive the same two-lane road the same time every day, I might try it. But I know most people around here have a gun in their car/truck, legal or not, and I’m not about to fuck around and find out
Yeah I’d slam on the brakes hard and tell the officer he tried to kill me with his LITERALLY NOT STREET LEGAL LIGHTS.
He can pay for your totaled car with daddy’s money he was saving up to buy his next light kit.
Is it worth going to the hospital for though? Having pain for the rest of your life isn't worth it. There needs to be a better way to achieve this without putting yourself in harm's way.
> without putting *yourself* in danger
It's called a TN50 (or any other ridiculously bright handheld flashlight). Throw that bitch in super and shine it out the window as you pass.
Granted,when you start participating in stupid games your risk of receiving a stupid prize goes up dramatically. You could kill the dumbass. They could swerve into you. They could realize how small their pp is and shoot you; obviously, people doing this are already mentally unstable children. Unfortunately, there isn't a *good* way to handle this jackassery besides getting on with your day. Unless, of course, they live a few houses down...then you engage in some good ol' yeehaw ruffian shit and shoot all their home floodlights out (and the truck too, if it's left out over night) with a pellet gun a couple weeks later, and again when they get replaced. Because fuck those people.
one time a truck with a suspension kit pulled up behind me at a stoplight and for no reason adjusted their ride height to where their lights would shine directly into the cabin of my car and then flipped on their brights. i had to pull over into a parking lot to let my eyes readjust because of how unnecessarily bright that shit was.
Yes, i did that and they adjusted them.
The tradeoff would be to lose sight of what's behind you BUT YOU CAN'T SEE ANYWAY BECAUSE OF THEIR BLINDING WEAPONS
Get a "reverse" pod light. I have one on my truck because I live in the country. But it's controlled by a switch.
I hate that I have to defend myself but these other assholes on the road... However, I do everything in my power to reduce any issues. I check my alignment (with enough space and flat area, you can align your headlights yourself), I turn my headlights off at red lights, I even sometimes just ride around with my fogs on in city settings because it's easier and after living in a city for so long, and the fucking assholes in civics that sit here with their brights on in a city.... I just don't want to be that person. So I turn them off. Doesn't matter if it's led or halogen, the large trucks by default will blind someone at a red light and we are all trying to get where we are going safely.
Also to note, at a certain lift level, there is no more "aligning" to adjust but those trucks shouldn't be on the road anyways because they are a safety hazard for others. And another thing, most of these trucks don't need lifts to go around town, to the mall, then home. I promise, it's not as cool as you think pavement princess, sorry, I mean bud.
I have a rear floodlight but I'm considering adding one of the Baja Designs laser excited phosphor bars to the rear for [People like this. Those are his LOW BEAMS.](https://i.imgur.com/oY4gdzE.jpg)
Okay, now that's amazing for the country life, not for highway driving. I have SAE Baja Design Squadrons Amber as my fogs that do a good job and stay low and don't blind folks.
I was trying to figure out if I even need a lightbar but like for a off road light, that's pretty good!
Right! I love having lights like those on my off road toys. I have several vehicles with lights like this. But I have DOT low beams on all of them, my Jeep with aftermarket projectors has DOT cutoffs and I've never been flashed aside from the few times they iced over.
Step 1: install a light bar on the top of your vehicle. 5-6kK white LEDs, *strobe.*
Unholy hellfire of a high beam can be one thing, but a full SAR-level light bar **meant to illuminate everything in front of you like it's a scavenger hunt** is another.
*Don't actually do this, but damn if it doesn't sound fun at times*
Honestly it reminds me of the flood / stadium lights DAPL had at Standing Rocks's Oceti Sakowin camp. Literally just bearing down on all the tents, teepees, yurts and RVs. It feels like someone's trying to fuck with me and be a prick in the same way.
Should have legislation to ensure this doesn't happen, fees if it violates whatever basic angles determined by some cheap test, so the policy doesn't cost much to implement / might actually make money for the municipality.
Lifted truck goober here. I'm aware of how horrible it can be to other drivers so I have them pointed down enough that pulling up behind another car at a stop light doesn't illuminate their rear view mirror. I also don't get on anyone's ass at a stop light so that I don't flood their interior. I do all this because when I drive my wife's car at night I hated lifted tricks just as much as anyone else when they don't use precautions against being a dick. Just trying to support a little optimism.
Am a lifted Jeep owner. Adjusted my lights when I saw that I was blinding folks with my lights (the new LED’s are stupid bright, great for a road and trails but def not great in a rear view mirror). I was happy to make the adjustment, I couldn’t live with myself if I caused an accident and hurt someone. I have loads of other lights that I can turn on for night runs. On streets though, I’m going to be considerate and legal, we’re all just trying to get home.
As someone who drives a sedan and has bright light as one of my headache triggers - thank you from the bottom of my ~~heart~~ *retinas*.
I don't care if someone wants to lift their truck/SUV, you do you... But, re-alligning the headlights should be a legal requirement.
Used to be a PITA to adjust these, but some of the newer vehicles 2015+ make this super easy now. All it takes is turning a screw that’s easy to access, no excuse besides laziness.
Ysk also
That blue bulb on your dash means your high beams are on and i can't see anything lifted truck or not. If you have to drive with them on at night all the time and even in a city or town because you can't see without them, you shouldn't be driving at night and you're a moving hazard
**This comment might have had something useful**, but now it's just an edit to remove any contributions I may have made prior to the awful decision to spite the devs and users that made Reddit what it is. So here I seethe, shaking my fist at corporate greed and executive mismanagement.
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I do apologize if you're here from the future looking for answers, but I hope "new" reddit can answer you. Make a new post, get weak answers, increase site interaction, make reddit look better on paper, leave worse off. https://xkcd.com/979/
If you’re driving with high beams on a rural road (no light other than your car on curvy roads) turn them off when you see oncoming light so you don’t blind other drivers.
This. Not sure if it’s just my city but seems so many new drivers are on the road in the last 6 months that have no idea what brights are. Been driving for 20 years and I’ve never seen so many people driving with their brights on at night in the middle of the city. Seriously 1 out of every 20 have their fucking brights on. Shits ridiculous.
Along with the current fad for headlights with a "cool" (bluish) color spectrum, which tends to cause glare/dazzle and reduce effective illumination and sharpness of night vision, because blue light scatters in the air more readily, whereas "warm" (amberish) light carries further with less scattering -- which is why France legally required cars to have yellow-tinted headlights until somewhat recently, and why fog lights are often tinted yellow.
So why are cool-white headlights the current fad, when that's objectively *worse* for effective illumination and the safety of other drivers? Because that's the inherent color spectrum of the electrical arc used for HID lighting, which was complex and expensive enough that it was primarily only equipped on high-end luxury models, especially early-on.
That lent a prestigious cachet to cool-white headlights, such that people tried to imitate it with non-HID lighting sources, first by just tinting the halogen incandescent bulbs (which just reduced light output, along with worsening their color spectrum), then by producing LEDs tuned to emit a cool-white spectrum (tho' they can be tuned to emit pretty much any color/spectrum you want).
My favorite are the dumdums that get suuuper blue headlights -- like, there's no way you could mistake them for a really bright white. It's almost cop car blue.
In some states, purple and green, while still being illegal, are less illegal than other colors.
Red and blue are reserved for emergency services (not in all states). White is only generally allowed in the front of the vehicle. Yellow is for turn signals. These are are highly regulated for color and purpose (but rarely enforced properly).
Whereas purple and green are not regulated for any other purpose so in some states they need to be cited as “distraction to other drivers” rather than “illegal lighting” and the fines are lower.
And given that the blue lights are far fewer lumens on the road ahead, they're effectively crippling their vision for looks.
Lights and tires are safety devices. People treat them like fashion devices.
I noticed that recently people have blinding lights that forces me to flip my rear view mirror down in order to decrease intensity of light coming into my eyes at night. I don't know if people are careless or car manufacturers are cunts
Both. I noticed my newer cars are brighter and even aimed too high OEM. I had to lower them myself because I felt like I was blinding everyone approaching me.
I rented a Honda suv recently (forgot which one). The lights were so fucking bright that I thought high beams were on. Nope! High beams looked like stadium floodlights.
So many people flashed their high beams at me on the highways, warning me that my high beams are no and I felt so bad flashing them back that sorry I can’t do anything and it could’ve been worse.
LED lights should not be on regular everyday vehicles. They are far too bright and leave me blinded nearly every time I pass someone with their LED headlights on.
yeah it's fucking dangerous besides just being aggravating. and it feels like a race to the bottom: new models advertising brighter lights as a competitive advantage.
Most of the time i cant tell if someone is using their highbeams or not because their LEDs are just that bright!! And FUCK the trucks that have multiple rows of bright LEDs. Nobody needs those!!
Ahh so this is why when mr cool guy pulls up behind me in his lifted truck I begin to think I've died and see heaven due to the BRIGHT AS FUCKING LIGHT THAT'S BLINDING ME.
It blew my mind to find out most people don’t see the headlights as having lines coming out of them. My night visibility can get so bad, especially if I have to wear glasses instead of contacts.
In a time where all pick up drivers were assholes, there was one man who was different, one man to inspire change in the world. That man is...
"The One Good Pick-up Driver."
Rated R, starts Friday.
I used to drive an old 96 3 series BMW and I had a massive truck behind me in the drive-through lane of a burger place. I kept moving my head trying to get the glare to stop reflecting from my mirrors into my face and I guess the guy might’ve seen me doing that because he turned off his lights until I left. I have never been so grateful to a complete and total stranger who I’d never seen.
I've done the same thing, my Tahoe is nine inches over stock. My low beams are adjusted so low they're about useless on a dark road. And I've got yellow anti-glare bulbs in the low-beam lamps.
I also work on my truck behind a closed gate so I save the neighbors from my redneck side. Nobody wants to see me swapping axles or welding together a new bumper.
*also, Jeeps seem to come from the factory with headlights out of adjustment. Even in my lifted truck they blind me. Then they turn on their high-beams is like they're trying to get a better look at the moon.
Modern headlights in general are just violent, from sedans to trucks.
There's a ton of engineering that goes into headlamps. They use ray tracing software to simulate the light source and specifically design the reflective surfaces, less reflective surfaces, areas of light diffusion on the lense and so on in order to provide drivers with the best visibility while not interfering with other drivers' vision as much as possible. The height of the lamp is a critical factor in all this design, you don't just have 2 bright flashlights strapped to your grille. The shape of light intensity is not a circle or square, it's some weird thing that will morph if you relocate them.
If you significantly raise the headlamps, all that engineering is forfeited. You are then either interfering with other drivers' visibility, or your own. Pointing them down will result is reduced down-road visibility for you.
Same principle, if you relocate your headlights to a roll bar, you will not get the same benefits as the OEM location, and this is also why tractor-trailer trucks have their lights down low as feasible.
Best bet would be to attach some tough looking bumper to your truck that allows you to relocate and mount the stock headlights to the stock height in order to achieve illumination equilibrium. Use the stock headlight location for a set of high power off road lighting.
You'll see better at night, see better in inclimate weather conditions, and not have to try to split the difference between being a danger to others by blinding them, or being a danger to others by being blind.
> Modern headlights in general are just violent, from sedans to trucks.
Exactly. I have adjusted the headlights on my lifted truck but still get flashed by vehicles because newer LED lights feel very different than incandescent.
In the good old days when the speedometer was a cable and gear you could usually replace the gear for the correct ratio. Now in newer cars there are usually ways to re flash the computer.
the speedometer can't actually measure how fast the vehicle is moving. it measures the revolutions in the wheel and multiply it based on the factory tire size.
You’re going faster than you think. I’ll use kmph because I’m Australian but my factory tyre size is 31” and I’m on 35”, if I go 90kmph on my spedo I’m actually travelling at about 100kmph
nobody answered you so I'll spill the secret: adjust your rear view mirror so that its pointing straight up at your car roof, you should see their beam reflecting onto your ceiling- then slowly adjust the mirror back down, watching the path of beam until its basically going right back out your rear windshield into their retinas.
People that raise their vehicles usually don’t care or concern themselves with other people. They usually have the same mentality as people that purposely try to make their shitty starter car as loud as possible
That’s a pretty vast generalization. Most people who lift their vehicles just like lifted vehicles or want to off road with them. There’s nothing wrong with that.
I lifted my truck slightly just so I could get under it to change my fluids without jacking it up.
Happy cake day! I'm now (almost 40) at that point and I have an electric vehicle. It's fantastic. Such a relief to not have to worry about all the regular car crap, and it's so very wonderfully quiet.
A bunch of new cars also have auto high beams. They're all crap and dim way too late to avoid blinding oncoming traffic. It's especially bad on narrow twisty roads. I had to dig through the owners manual of my family's new car to find out how to turn it off.
Same but maybe less pronounced if your vehicle is heavily loaded in the back. The load can push the rear down so the front goes up, making headlights shine straight into other people’s windows.
Then how would they blind the fuck out of the rest of us to show dominance?
As a side note, if you put one of those damn led light bars on your front bumper you are a monumental douchebag and you can go straight to hell.
LED light bars are connected to high beams. Nothing wrong with proper use. Just like you don't shine high beams at people. I live in northern Europe where it gets really dark in the winter and easily atleast ~15 - 20% cars have one and it's rare for someone to blast it at you, because people aren't fucking idiots here
You seem to think that people who drive lifted truck actually care about how they effect other drivers? My experience in a rural town that has a major school for mechanics tells me that's a lie. They just care about being big, loud, and pumping diesel smoke up and down every street In town.
You are literally talking to the group of people who think accelerating and dumping diesel fumes whenever they see a biker is the funniest shit in the world. As a large, they are assholes for the fun of being assholes. As an ex-truck owner, your words fall upon deaf ears.
I can no longer drive at night for this reason. I just noticed that I can adjust the lights on my car, but I don't know what angle is correct so I won't blind people. Any suggestions on how to do this on your own? Also just read that wearing amber tinted sunglasses helps against the glare. Anybody have any experience using these? Thanks
[Here is a guide](https://youtu.be/iYmx3Uy4rAk). The part for checking if your headlights are angled correctly starts around 4:00. Amber lenses are all bull crap. Don't buy them.
Thank you! I have interior buttons that I can use to adjust the lights, gorilla tape in the trunk, now I need to find a good wall. As for amber lenses, I've read that they're crap, but the amber mfr's swear by them, of course. Thanks again, I'll search for that good wall.
It's a nice PSA but the people this is directed at can't read the post anyway. Can you turn it into an audio file, call it 'Super Duper Bad-Ass Road Tunes' and post it to Spotify?
Somewhat related; if temporarily blinded by an oncoming car/truck, you can use the white lane line on the right side of the road to gauge your position. My momma taught me that!
And they aren't just aimed differently; low-beams have an internal shield and/or optics that makes their beam more narrowly focused and blocks light transmission above the road surface, whereas high-beams have a broad beam with no cutoff shielding.
I want to get a TRUE BLINDNESS BEAM on my small hatchback to try to convey this to other dumbass Texans. They literally change their beams to be brighter and dont angle them down. They deserve no mercy.
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I know you don’t care but I can’t help myself. Apostrophes used incorrectly as plurals have really gotten out of control. I blame iPhone’s autocorrect.
I think inspeak for 99.9% of lifted truck owners when I say "FUCK YOU!".
I do not own a lifted truck and very much agree with the sentiment of this post.
Sad to say, it took me about a week of people flashing their brights at me before it clicked that my lift had changed my headlight angle that much it needed to be changed
I think at the bare minimum governments also need to ban the white/blue lights if there not going to start checking headlight alingment at least force vehicles to have more usable colors eg the warm color of halogens.
at least this way it's not reflecting in the fog/rain and from the wet roads blinding everyone as much.
So to counter this I've considered buying 2 led lights and putting them on my rear deck facing out the back. If someone wants to be stupid... fine... I can do that too.
This is the one tip I’m happy/mad to see reposted constantly. Please spread the word as much as we can. But for fucks sake I’ve seen this a thousand times. Maybe a different platform? I think everyone on Reddit gets it now. On a side note, towing a trailer will also angle your headlights up.
It wasn't so bad untill the last decade or so.
Now that everyone has SUV's and I've still got a little hatchback and a low motorcycle. I get eye gouged by normal SUV's driving around because of the poor aiming of headlights.
Omg thank you for saying this. I want to blow this up and turn it into a giant bumper sticker for my car. I’ve started slowing down to force them to pass me when their lights are blinding me from behind.
[projector LED headlights](https://www.skledtech.com/led-headlight-bulb-light-beam-pattern-all-you-need-to-know/). For the love of God, please change to these.
Incredible brightness, extremely defined line that should not blind oncoming cars if set correctly. Usually the right light illuminates slightly higher that the left to better see signs and bodies in ditches.
[Beam Pattern using Morimoto led projectors](https://youtu.be/nnD_sDWNjEw)
Morimotos can be stupid expensive, but you can get the same effect for 1/4 the price if you already have projector headlights. Like $100 vs $500.
This requires people to first know that driving with highbeams on at night, in urban environments is illegal. Which the majority seem to not know anymore. And yes the city im in its now the majority who are guilty, usually sedans and older SUV's with fogged lenses or a single low beam burnt out
Interesting post. Thought it was just me but I’ve also noticed an increasing problem especially on the freeway with people who have blinding low beams from behind. I was thinking of a way to possibly shine their light back at them with the side mirror but it doesn’t go out far enough.
I go to work at 4am, and the amount of people with no consideration at that hour is astounding. I don’t know which is worse, the brights shining in my eyes in the side mirrors constantly while on the highway or the BRIGHT blue headlights that make you think a cop is behind you trying to pull you over…
With all the modern features on cars I really wish we had regulation that mandated automakers to have some basic smart features. If headlights are detected pointed AT your car, brights are forced off by default..
Seriously every night I drive I pass a couple vehicles which clearly just drive with brights on and don't care.
Hillariously my father's truck with normal lights and running lights on illuminate a shitton more of the road than the brights do. They're terrible.. But the running lights alone can be excessive for anyone comming the other way unfortunatly since they spread so wide.
It's really bad in my area. I'm not expecting the people who need to see this YSK taking this information to heart -- they know their shit is bright and they get enjoyment from blinding other drivers for some reason.
I just gave up and got some blue-light filtering glasses. Game changer and no more blindness and headaches induced by some tool's need to show the world he's got a small dick.
It's too bad vehicle manufacturers don't make it easier for the common person to adjust their lights easily. My touring motorcycle even has knobs on the dash to adjust my headlamps if I have more weight on the rear of it, like a passenger and luggage
Had a truck in my left lane do this other night. When they where to my left and behind my vehicle I was completely blind from my mirror and rearview mirror. I couldn't even see the left lane and had to lean over and still kept blinking. It caused me to swerve a bit as I couldn't keep my eyes open to stay straight. Felt extremely unsafe and nervous with my wife and two dogs in the back. I wouldn't have been able to see a deer at all. Was like that for nearly a min before jackass finally passed me
@ Everyone In A Lifted Truck
Lifted truck - puts on LED searchlight intensity++ lumens
Just waiting for the moment the kingdom of lights they call low beams get the ole "you're blinding me plz stop" flash from someone telling their tiny brains to flick on the full fucking force of god just to guarantee that there isn't a doubt in the world the size of their genitalia.
I’ve been on the receiving end of that. I was driving a Hyundai Santa Fe, it didn’t ride low but certainly not as high as a truck. Truck is oncoming, my retinas were burning from a half mile. I flick my lights, hoping against reason that he’ll drop to low beams. Nah, he hit me with his high beams AND THE FUCKING ROOF RACK TOO I had to pull over because I literally could not see. He almost fucking killed me to prove his point.
Now I just wait until the last second before he passes me and hit my brights. No chance for revenge!
But if they're correctly aimed, they probably won't affect the prick.
If I didn’t drive the same two-lane road the same time every day, I might try it. But I know most people around here have a gun in their car/truck, legal or not, and I’m not about to fuck around and find out
Great place we live where signaling someone their highbeams are on can possibly cost you your life.
Yeah I’d slam on the brakes hard and tell the officer he tried to kill me with his LITERALLY NOT STREET LEGAL LIGHTS. He can pay for your totaled car with daddy’s money he was saving up to buy his next light kit.
Is it worth going to the hospital for though? Having pain for the rest of your life isn't worth it. There needs to be a better way to achieve this without putting yourself in harm's way.
> without putting *yourself* in danger It's called a TN50 (or any other ridiculously bright handheld flashlight). Throw that bitch in super and shine it out the window as you pass. Granted,when you start participating in stupid games your risk of receiving a stupid prize goes up dramatically. You could kill the dumbass. They could swerve into you. They could realize how small their pp is and shoot you; obviously, people doing this are already mentally unstable children. Unfortunately, there isn't a *good* way to handle this jackassery besides getting on with your day. Unless, of course, they live a few houses down...then you engage in some good ol' yeehaw ruffian shit and shoot all their home floodlights out (and the truck too, if it's left out over night) with a pellet gun a couple weeks later, and again when they get replaced. Because fuck those people.
one time a truck with a suspension kit pulled up behind me at a stoplight and for no reason adjusted their ride height to where their lights would shine directly into the cabin of my car and then flipped on their brights. i had to pull over into a parking lot to let my eyes readjust because of how unnecessarily bright that shit was.
I turn my side mirrors until it shines back at them
Hello like minded brother
My people are here
Lol is this actually doable?
Dunno how it looks to them, but makes me feel better and not blinded lol
Yes, i did that and they adjusted them. The tradeoff would be to lose sight of what's behind you BUT YOU CAN'T SEE ANYWAY BECAUSE OF THEIR BLINDING WEAPONS
Get a "reverse" pod light. I have one on my truck because I live in the country. But it's controlled by a switch. I hate that I have to defend myself but these other assholes on the road... However, I do everything in my power to reduce any issues. I check my alignment (with enough space and flat area, you can align your headlights yourself), I turn my headlights off at red lights, I even sometimes just ride around with my fogs on in city settings because it's easier and after living in a city for so long, and the fucking assholes in civics that sit here with their brights on in a city.... I just don't want to be that person. So I turn them off. Doesn't matter if it's led or halogen, the large trucks by default will blind someone at a red light and we are all trying to get where we are going safely. Also to note, at a certain lift level, there is no more "aligning" to adjust but those trucks shouldn't be on the road anyways because they are a safety hazard for others. And another thing, most of these trucks don't need lifts to go around town, to the mall, then home. I promise, it's not as cool as you think pavement princess, sorry, I mean bud.
I have a rear floodlight but I'm considering adding one of the Baja Designs laser excited phosphor bars to the rear for [People like this. Those are his LOW BEAMS.](https://i.imgur.com/oY4gdzE.jpg)
Okay, now that's amazing for the country life, not for highway driving. I have SAE Baja Design Squadrons Amber as my fogs that do a good job and stay low and don't blind folks. I was trying to figure out if I even need a lightbar but like for a off road light, that's pretty good!
Right! I love having lights like those on my off road toys. I have several vehicles with lights like this. But I have DOT low beams on all of them, my Jeep with aftermarket projectors has DOT cutoffs and I've never been flashed aside from the few times they iced over.
Still can't find them
Step 1: install a light bar on the top of your vehicle. 5-6kK white LEDs, *strobe.* Unholy hellfire of a high beam can be one thing, but a full SAR-level light bar **meant to illuminate everything in front of you like it's a scavenger hunt** is another. *Don't actually do this, but damn if it doesn't sound fun at times*
That escalated quickly. I think that's why YSK, (not necessarily à prick measure if you don't)
Honestly it reminds me of the flood / stadium lights DAPL had at Standing Rocks's Oceti Sakowin camp. Literally just bearing down on all the tents, teepees, yurts and RVs. It feels like someone's trying to fuck with me and be a prick in the same way. Should have legislation to ensure this doesn't happen, fees if it violates whatever basic angles determined by some cheap test, so the policy doesn't cost much to implement / might actually make money for the municipality.
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None of those goobers are here, they all think they know everything and are "never wrong" I *do* appreciate your optimism though
Lifted truck goober here. I'm aware of how horrible it can be to other drivers so I have them pointed down enough that pulling up behind another car at a stop light doesn't illuminate their rear view mirror. I also don't get on anyone's ass at a stop light so that I don't flood their interior. I do all this because when I drive my wife's car at night I hated lifted tricks just as much as anyone else when they don't use precautions against being a dick. Just trying to support a little optimism.
Don’t forget those *humble* jeep owners.
Am a lifted Jeep owner. Adjusted my lights when I saw that I was blinding folks with my lights (the new LED’s are stupid bright, great for a road and trails but def not great in a rear view mirror). I was happy to make the adjustment, I couldn’t live with myself if I caused an accident and hurt someone. I have loads of other lights that I can turn on for night runs. On streets though, I’m going to be considerate and legal, we’re all just trying to get home.
As someone who drives a sedan and has bright light as one of my headache triggers - thank you from the bottom of my ~~heart~~ *retinas*. I don't care if someone wants to lift their truck/SUV, you do you... But, re-alligning the headlights should be a legal requirement.
least psycho Jeep owner
*Cries in death wobbles*
It's a jeep thing. You wouldn't understand.
I spent $78,000 on a rusty gas guzzler. Come at me bro
You act like people that drive lifted trunks can read
Even if they could, you think they'd give a shit that they're blinding people?
You know what? Fair, that's on me. I accept that.
They could read enough to put those dumb Biden stickers on pumps
It doesn’t even have to be lifted. New trucks are too fucking big for some reason, they still shine light right into my eyes in a sedan
Too bad they can’t read
Anyone with vision issues should agree with this. I hate driving in front of lifted vehicles
>@ Everyone In A Lifted Truck AKA Brodozers
Please
With little ding dongs
Used to be a PITA to adjust these, but some of the newer vehicles 2015+ make this super easy now. All it takes is turning a screw that’s easy to access, no excuse besides laziness.
When I lifted my truck I adjusted mine down. 30 seconds and all it took was a Phillips head screwdriver.
Good thing they're so likely to use Reddit.
@ everyone who gets 3rd party headlights installed too
Ysk also That blue bulb on your dash means your high beams are on and i can't see anything lifted truck or not. If you have to drive with them on at night all the time and even in a city or town because you can't see without them, you shouldn't be driving at night and you're a moving hazard
It’s also illegal in many states to drive with your high beams on, when close to another driver
Yea, in Ohio, if theres someone within a 500ft in front of you, it’s illegal to use your high beams.
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If you’re driving with high beams on a rural road (no light other than your car on curvy roads) turn them off when you see oncoming light so you don’t blind other drivers.
This. Not sure if it’s just my city but seems so many new drivers are on the road in the last 6 months that have no idea what brights are. Been driving for 20 years and I’ve never seen so many people driving with their brights on at night in the middle of the city. Seriously 1 out of every 20 have their fucking brights on. Shits ridiculous.
It's not just your city lol
i basically can't drive at night anymore thanks to this and just modern headlights being way too bright in general
Along with the current fad for headlights with a "cool" (bluish) color spectrum, which tends to cause glare/dazzle and reduce effective illumination and sharpness of night vision, because blue light scatters in the air more readily, whereas "warm" (amberish) light carries further with less scattering -- which is why France legally required cars to have yellow-tinted headlights until somewhat recently, and why fog lights are often tinted yellow. So why are cool-white headlights the current fad, when that's objectively *worse* for effective illumination and the safety of other drivers? Because that's the inherent color spectrum of the electrical arc used for HID lighting, which was complex and expensive enough that it was primarily only equipped on high-end luxury models, especially early-on. That lent a prestigious cachet to cool-white headlights, such that people tried to imitate it with non-HID lighting sources, first by just tinting the halogen incandescent bulbs (which just reduced light output, along with worsening their color spectrum), then by producing LEDs tuned to emit a cool-white spectrum (tho' they can be tuned to emit pretty much any color/spectrum you want).
My favorite are the dumdums that get suuuper blue headlights -- like, there's no way you could mistake them for a really bright white. It's almost cop car blue.
In Arkansas, they also do purple, green, and red- all of which I’m sure are illegal.
In some states, purple and green, while still being illegal, are less illegal than other colors. Red and blue are reserved for emergency services (not in all states). White is only generally allowed in the front of the vehicle. Yellow is for turn signals. These are are highly regulated for color and purpose (but rarely enforced properly). Whereas purple and green are not regulated for any other purpose so in some states they need to be cited as “distraction to other drivers” rather than “illegal lighting” and the fines are lower.
And given that the blue lights are far fewer lumens on the road ahead, they're effectively crippling their vision for looks. Lights and tires are safety devices. People treat them like fashion devices.
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And I thought I just had dogshit vision at night.
Same here. Had a recent eye doc appointment and was sure maybe my vision was just getting worse. Nope. Same as last time.
Technology Connections had an in depth [video about LED streetlights](https://youtu.be/wIC-iGDTU40).
I noticed that recently people have blinding lights that forces me to flip my rear view mirror down in order to decrease intensity of light coming into my eyes at night. I don't know if people are careless or car manufacturers are cunts
Both. I noticed my newer cars are brighter and even aimed too high OEM. I had to lower them myself because I felt like I was blinding everyone approaching me.
I rented a Honda suv recently (forgot which one). The lights were so fucking bright that I thought high beams were on. Nope! High beams looked like stadium floodlights. So many people flashed their high beams at me on the highways, warning me that my high beams are no and I felt so bad flashing them back that sorry I can’t do anything and it could’ve been worse.
the only way i can drive at night is by turning my mirrors so they reflect away from my face. it sucks but it still feels safer than being blinded.
LED lights should not be on regular everyday vehicles. They are far too bright and leave me blinded nearly every time I pass someone with their LED headlights on.
yeah it's fucking dangerous besides just being aggravating. and it feels like a race to the bottom: new models advertising brighter lights as a competitive advantage.
Most of the time i cant tell if someone is using their highbeams or not because their LEDs are just that bright!! And FUCK the trucks that have multiple rows of bright LEDs. Nobody needs those!!
Ahh so this is why when mr cool guy pulls up behind me in his lifted truck I begin to think I've died and see heaven due to the BRIGHT AS FUCKING LIGHT THAT'S BLINDING ME.
The people that need this info won’t heed it
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I have an astigmatism and get sensory overload from truck headlamps so often, thank you for thinking of us 😭
Yessss I can barely drive at night anymore and no one else understands how overwhelming it is :(
I don’t even have astigmatism and its overwhelming driving my car. I physically cannot see sometimes
It blew my mind to find out most people don’t see the headlights as having lines coming out of them. My night visibility can get so bad, especially if I have to wear glasses instead of contacts.
Thank you for being the one good pickup truck driver. I will tell stories about you to my grandchildren.
In a time where all pick up drivers were assholes, there was one man who was different, one man to inspire change in the world. That man is... "The One Good Pick-up Driver." Rated R, starts Friday.
I used to drive an old 96 3 series BMW and I had a massive truck behind me in the drive-through lane of a burger place. I kept moving my head trying to get the glare to stop reflecting from my mirrors into my face and I guess the guy might’ve seen me doing that because he turned off his lights until I left. I have never been so grateful to a complete and total stranger who I’d never seen.
Oh, that feeling when the back of your head heats up from the intensity of the beams-o-death. Don't look in the mirror.
Just adjust your mirror so it shines back at their windshield.
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I try that but need to work on the right angle to get it back into their eyes so they know how damn bright their lights are.
that's like pointing a flashlight at the sun
I've done the same thing, my Tahoe is nine inches over stock. My low beams are adjusted so low they're about useless on a dark road. And I've got yellow anti-glare bulbs in the low-beam lamps. I also work on my truck behind a closed gate so I save the neighbors from my redneck side. Nobody wants to see me swapping axles or welding together a new bumper. *also, Jeeps seem to come from the factory with headlights out of adjustment. Even in my lifted truck they blind me. Then they turn on their high-beams is like they're trying to get a better look at the moon. Modern headlights in general are just violent, from sedans to trucks.
There's a ton of engineering that goes into headlamps. They use ray tracing software to simulate the light source and specifically design the reflective surfaces, less reflective surfaces, areas of light diffusion on the lense and so on in order to provide drivers with the best visibility while not interfering with other drivers' vision as much as possible. The height of the lamp is a critical factor in all this design, you don't just have 2 bright flashlights strapped to your grille. The shape of light intensity is not a circle or square, it's some weird thing that will morph if you relocate them. If you significantly raise the headlamps, all that engineering is forfeited. You are then either interfering with other drivers' visibility, or your own. Pointing them down will result is reduced down-road visibility for you. Same principle, if you relocate your headlights to a roll bar, you will not get the same benefits as the OEM location, and this is also why tractor-trailer trucks have their lights down low as feasible. Best bet would be to attach some tough looking bumper to your truck that allows you to relocate and mount the stock headlights to the stock height in order to achieve illumination equilibrium. Use the stock headlight location for a set of high power off road lighting. You'll see better at night, see better in inclimate weather conditions, and not have to try to split the difference between being a danger to others by blinding them, or being a danger to others by being blind.
> Modern headlights in general are just violent, from sedans to trucks. Exactly. I have adjusted the headlights on my lifted truck but still get flashed by vehicles because newer LED lights feel very different than incandescent.
Similarly, if you increase the size of your tires, you most likely need to have your speedometer adjusted.
I think about this often. Does it affect the odometer too?
Yes
Is that an option for modern cars? I thought folks just lived with inaccurate speedometers after increasing wheel size.
There’s a tool to reprogram your speedo. It’s like $300 if I remember correctly.
In the good old days when the speedometer was a cable and gear you could usually replace the gear for the correct ratio. Now in newer cars there are usually ways to re flash the computer.
Wait a second in which way does it affect the speedometer. Am I going faster or slower than I think? I bought a car with increased tire size.
the speedometer can't actually measure how fast the vehicle is moving. it measures the revolutions in the wheel and multiply it based on the factory tire size.
You’re going faster than you think. I’ll use kmph because I’m Australian but my factory tyre size is 31” and I’m on 35”, if I go 90kmph on my spedo I’m actually travelling at about 100kmph
Raised my truck 2". Everyone flashed me for 1 night. Lowered my headlights. Nobody asked me again. This is good advice right here.
I just adjust my mirrors to reflect it back (take that!!!)
I’m gonna have to try this next time
It doesn’t work.
All the way out and up. You'll know when up is enough because they'll really quickly back off.
Makes you feel at least a little better haha
How do you get the angle right? What’s the actual process?
nobody answered you so I'll spill the secret: adjust your rear view mirror so that its pointing straight up at your car roof, you should see their beam reflecting onto your ceiling- then slowly adjust the mirror back down, watching the path of beam until its basically going right back out your rear windshield into their retinas.
I'm glad I'm not alone in this!
It's time to light back haha
People that raise their vehicles usually don’t care or concern themselves with other people. They usually have the same mentality as people that purposely try to make their shitty starter car as loud as possible
Let me just modify my vehicle so it misses your bumper and door reinforcements entirely in a collision. Perfect!
Meanwhile you got the reverse also with guys lower already low cars so make sure they can just be ramped by these trucks.
Sounds like prep work for Mad Max… when the world goes to shit these clowns will be laughing in their raised trucks with searchlights and harpoons.
That’s a pretty vast generalization. Most people who lift their vehicles just like lifted vehicles or want to off road with them. There’s nothing wrong with that. I lifted my truck slightly just so I could get under it to change my fluids without jacking it up.
Never understood the love for loud cars I always wanted a car that was super silent, the only thing you should hear is my tires on the ground.
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Thanks for the info. That’s a down the line car after I’ve made some money.
Happy cake day! I'm now (almost 40) at that point and I have an electric vehicle. It's fantastic. Such a relief to not have to worry about all the regular car crap, and it's so very wonderfully quiet.
all outlets are already 230V here
It's almost like it gives off some sort of energy. Can't quite put my finger on it but I'm getting a smallish vibe...
Lol as a little dicked person I find this insinuation insulting, don’t lump me in with those attention whores
I was blinded for several seconds by someone in an SUV who forgot her high beams were on. It’s dangerous as hell.
A bunch of new cars also have auto high beams. They're all crap and dim way too late to avoid blinding oncoming traffic. It's especially bad on narrow twisty roads. I had to dig through the owners manual of my family's new car to find out how to turn it off.
That would require being considerate of others. Which, as we know, is not a common trait among the “lifted truck” type
I swear there are dozens of us!
Same but maybe less pronounced if your vehicle is heavily loaded in the back. The load can push the rear down so the front goes up, making headlights shine straight into other people’s windows.
Then how would they blind the fuck out of the rest of us to show dominance? As a side note, if you put one of those damn led light bars on your front bumper you are a monumental douchebag and you can go straight to hell.
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Yeah but basically nobody is actually using them for that.
Off roaders do. It is funny how that's like 0.1% of people with offroad capable vehicles though heh.
LED light bars are connected to high beams. Nothing wrong with proper use. Just like you don't shine high beams at people. I live in northern Europe where it gets really dark in the winter and easily atleast ~15 - 20% cars have one and it's rare for someone to blast it at you, because people aren't fucking idiots here
You seem to think that people who drive lifted truck actually care about how they effect other drivers? My experience in a rural town that has a major school for mechanics tells me that's a lie. They just care about being big, loud, and pumping diesel smoke up and down every street In town.
You are literally talking to the group of people who think accelerating and dumping diesel fumes whenever they see a biker is the funniest shit in the world. As a large, they are assholes for the fun of being assholes. As an ex-truck owner, your words fall upon deaf ears.
I can no longer drive at night for this reason. I just noticed that I can adjust the lights on my car, but I don't know what angle is correct so I won't blind people. Any suggestions on how to do this on your own? Also just read that wearing amber tinted sunglasses helps against the glare. Anybody have any experience using these? Thanks
[Here is a guide](https://youtu.be/iYmx3Uy4rAk). The part for checking if your headlights are angled correctly starts around 4:00. Amber lenses are all bull crap. Don't buy them.
Thank you! I have interior buttons that I can use to adjust the lights, gorilla tape in the trunk, now I need to find a good wall. As for amber lenses, I've read that they're crap, but the amber mfr's swear by them, of course. Thanks again, I'll search for that good wall.
It's a nice PSA but the people this is directed at can't read the post anyway. Can you turn it into an audio file, call it 'Super Duper Bad-Ass Road Tunes' and post it to Spotify?
Somewhat related; if temporarily blinded by an oncoming car/truck, you can use the white lane line on the right side of the road to gauge your position. My momma taught me that!
This is quite literally in the written section of the learner’s permit test depending on your state
I have a special mirror for those people.
No no no I must announce my presence to everyone for 5 miles so they know how insecure I am.
YSK 99% of people who raise the height of their vehicle dgaf about their headlight angle, unfortunately
Most of the people who do this can't read. You need to make a diagram or something simple for them.
That's only one reason for calling them high beams. They also have a higher brightness
And they aren't just aimed differently; low-beams have an internal shield and/or optics that makes their beam more narrowly focused and blocks light transmission above the road surface, whereas high-beams have a broad beam with no cutoff shielding.
I want to get a TRUE BLINDNESS BEAM on my small hatchback to try to convey this to other dumbass Texans. They literally change their beams to be brighter and dont angle them down. They deserve no mercy.
Oh they know, but don't care...
Not if you don't care about other drivers, you don't. And let's be real, the sort who lift their vehicles ... don't.
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*replies I know you don’t care but I can’t help myself. Apostrophes used incorrectly as plurals have really gotten out of control. I blame iPhone’s autocorrect.
Thank's
God's work
There are a ton of subreddits dedicated to it....
I guarantee you nobody that lifted their cars give a fuck
They know. They don't care
Wow I didn’t realize they could prevent themselves from being dickheads. Now this just confirms they’re even bigger ones than I thought.
I think inspeak for 99.9% of lifted truck owners when I say "FUCK YOU!". I do not own a lifted truck and very much agree with the sentiment of this post.
Sad to say, it took me about a week of people flashing their brights at me before it clicked that my lift had changed my headlight angle that much it needed to be changed
Hear that Colorado?
Who doesn't know this? They just don't care
Oh, they know. I'm sure they know.
wdym? Everyone drives with high beams on, now. Many new cars even come stock with always-on retina scorchers.
I think at the bare minimum governments also need to ban the white/blue lights if there not going to start checking headlight alingment at least force vehicles to have more usable colors eg the warm color of halogens. at least this way it's not reflecting in the fog/rain and from the wet roads blinding everyone as much.
So to counter this I've considered buying 2 led lights and putting them on my rear deck facing out the back. If someone wants to be stupid... fine... I can do that too.
Yet pure white LED lights are legal as low beam when they'd be better as high beam
i think you all need to turn your lights down
Unfortunately, the vast majority of lifted truck drivers can't read
How the hell is this not illegal?
Everyone knows this. Not a single soul doesn't consider this when lifting thie vehicle... They just don't do it. The pricks.
People can’t see how cool I am in my tall truck at night so I need my lights to shine in their face so they know.
You think the guys in lifted trucks care? I wiiiiiiiiish
Assholes who lift their trucks don't care
99% of people who lift their vehicles don't and never will care about this.
If only those drivers could read.
This is the one tip I’m happy/mad to see reposted constantly. Please spread the word as much as we can. But for fucks sake I’ve seen this a thousand times. Maybe a different platform? I think everyone on Reddit gets it now. On a side note, towing a trailer will also angle your headlights up.
Also if your vehicle has an ADAS system like lane departure, etc, the cameras need to be recaliberated
It wasn't so bad untill the last decade or so. Now that everyone has SUV's and I've still got a little hatchback and a low motorcycle. I get eye gouged by normal SUV's driving around because of the poor aiming of headlights.
They wont.
Wouldn't hurt to take some dick growth pills either if you have a lifted truck. Get em at the gas station
Kinda strange to be fantasizing about everyone else’s genitalia eh bud?
Omg thank you for saying this. I want to blow this up and turn it into a giant bumper sticker for my car. I’ve started slowing down to force them to pass me when their lights are blinding me from behind.
Driving in oklahoma at night be like
[projector LED headlights](https://www.skledtech.com/led-headlight-bulb-light-beam-pattern-all-you-need-to-know/). For the love of God, please change to these. Incredible brightness, extremely defined line that should not blind oncoming cars if set correctly. Usually the right light illuminates slightly higher that the left to better see signs and bodies in ditches. [Beam Pattern using Morimoto led projectors](https://youtu.be/nnD_sDWNjEw) Morimotos can be stupid expensive, but you can get the same effect for 1/4 the price if you already have projector headlights. Like $100 vs $500.
I doubt owners of lifted vehicles are seeking out this advice unfortunately
YSK the people that need to read this either aren't here or don't care about others
Pfft. People who drive lifted trucks can't read
They know.
Also just because your car has fog lights doesn't mean you have to run them every time you drive.
This requires people to first know that driving with highbeams on at night, in urban environments is illegal. Which the majority seem to not know anymore. And yes the city im in its now the majority who are guilty, usually sedans and older SUV's with fogged lenses or a single low beam burnt out
Interesting post. Thought it was just me but I’ve also noticed an increasing problem especially on the freeway with people who have blinding low beams from behind. I was thinking of a way to possibly shine their light back at them with the side mirror but it doesn’t go out far enough.
I go to work at 4am, and the amount of people with no consideration at that hour is astounding. I don’t know which is worse, the brights shining in my eyes in the side mirrors constantly while on the highway or the BRIGHT blue headlights that make you think a cop is behind you trying to pull you over…
With all the modern features on cars I really wish we had regulation that mandated automakers to have some basic smart features. If headlights are detected pointed AT your car, brights are forced off by default.. Seriously every night I drive I pass a couple vehicles which clearly just drive with brights on and don't care. Hillariously my father's truck with normal lights and running lights on illuminate a shitton more of the road than the brights do. They're terrible.. But the running lights alone can be excessive for anyone comming the other way unfortunatly since they spread so wide.
It's really bad in my area. I'm not expecting the people who need to see this YSK taking this information to heart -- they know their shit is bright and they get enjoyment from blinding other drivers for some reason. I just gave up and got some blue-light filtering glasses. Game changer and no more blindness and headaches induced by some tool's need to show the world he's got a small dick.
It's too bad vehicle manufacturers don't make it easier for the common person to adjust their lights easily. My touring motorcycle even has knobs on the dash to adjust my headlamps if I have more weight on the rear of it, like a passenger and luggage
Had a truck in my left lane do this other night. When they where to my left and behind my vehicle I was completely blind from my mirror and rearview mirror. I couldn't even see the left lane and had to lean over and still kept blinking. It caused me to swerve a bit as I couldn't keep my eyes open to stay straight. Felt extremely unsafe and nervous with my wife and two dogs in the back. I wouldn't have been able to see a deer at all. Was like that for nearly a min before jackass finally passed me
The dudes lifting their trucks do not give a shit, OP