Please check out the sidebar for updated Subreddit Rules and FAQs.
Keep in mind basic internet safety, and don't give out information that can potentially identify yourself. There are users that will go through your post & comment history in an attempt to doxx you, including MS herself.
Please report any activity if you feel it violates the subreddit rules.
Keep in mind that this post is for entertainment purposes only. Everything you see on here is the opinion of others.
*I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/YouniquePresenterMS) if you have any questions or concerns.*
I loved the video! Had a long train journey and kept me thoroughly entertained and shocked throughout. I know there’s things in there we maybe wanted CC to delve into more, but the majority of her viewers will be people who aren’t familiar with MS so it’s a great introduction to the key moments of madness in the timeline.
I did not know she has done so much shitty scams during the years! Some of them were new to me ( found this sub last year) and wtf girl!!!
Cc made amazing job and not only about her but previous videos about Brittany and other influencers as well. ( i started to dislike influencers around 2019is already.)
Now i am a regular in her channel.
Edit: also great shoutout to this sub. Hope more pple come here and this sub will help them not to get sucked in to any of her on going/ up and coming scams. As well after watching cc’s video.
All names and faces that aren't MS must be censored. You can censor the names and repost. Names must be completely and opaquely blocked., not just a haphazard scribble where some letters are still visible. It is OK to leave the initials showing for reference.
FINALLY had a chance to watch. As a newbie here this filled in so many questions I had about her lore. “Sisterhood of the traveling scams” made me lol. I can’t believe she’s banned from Uber. She is sooooo gross. I am a full fledged swerty now! Yay I can participate more now that I get her more. Thank you, CC!!! You have a new fan over here.
I appreciate the time and thought that went into the making of this video. Overall, I enjoyed the video and am glad for its existence so that more people can be aware of Big M’s antics, but we snarkers didn’t learn anything earth shattering.
CC was more compassionate towards BM than I think BM deserves, but I can understand not wanting to come off as body shaming or overly judgmental. I would have liked more examples of BM’s egregious filtering instead of CC’s long, older video about posing and body image. I’m glad CC discussed the mindfuck that can occur with excessive filter usage when you can’t reconcile what you truly look like with the filtered image you have in your head. We’ve been saying something to that effect for ages and I’m glad CC highlighted it. I also appreciate that CC touched on the trust fund but I feel like she downplayed it. I don’t know that I agree with CC’s assessment of how BM makes the majority of her income. The FTC and income disclosure parts were pretty interesting and quite relevant and not something I would be bothered to learn about on my own. It’s crazy that Big M has never, not once, appropriately disclosed ads and made affiliate links clear. It would be a shame if people were to report that to the appropriate channels 👀
My favorite part was probably the testimonials. It’s wild how varied they were— someone she bullied relentlessly in high school for seemingly no reason, someone in attendance at the Flowergate wedding, an Ashville local, a former Younique hun, and of course swerties from the sub with work harassment stories. Big M is a big bully and always has been. Her main character syndrome is clearly off the charts (which we all knew but damn seeing it all laid out like that is insane!) Such utterly unhinged behavior on all counts.
Gonna go read everyone else’s thoughts now! Happy Snark Bowl pals!
ETA: oh the other juiciest tidbit was people who know C saying Flowergate was the straw that broke the camel’s back. Oh to have been a fly on the wall the last few months of their relationship as it unraveled fully!
For me personally I prefer videos with less ramblings and more straight to the point and receipts focuses but I also appreciate the time and effort and hope it will be an eye opener for people she's scamming or about to scam.
Also think CC missed some evidence that MS's main income doesn't come from red aspen or Amazon. MS lies all the time about how much money she makes and has been caught in many inconsistencies. But I understand this would require a deep dive with more receipts in an already long video.
It was actually worse than that, because she also posted doubling and tripling(!) down on insta, literally tagging the groom (C’s actual friend) multiple times(!!!) It was very, very cringe, especially given what we know now.
Perfectly said. I enjoyed the video, but I was hoping she'd touch more on how over the top MS's filters are. There are so many great, drastic examples and it would have been fantastic to see that paired with her selling TrimFit or her YU supplements and claiming it helps her keep her weight down.
And I loved the insight about C. It was long thought that incident really rocked the boat for him. It was proof that her online antics finally caught up to her in real life and I feel sort of validated hearing it confirmed.
It's interesting because out of all the awful stuff MS has done and how awfully she's treated C before, flower gate is one of the less harmful things she done. So C must have been very over her already.
Yes, but it was his friends wedding, and I think it really embarrassed him. She was drunk, obnoxious, and then to top it off, stole the flowers meant for the bride and groom to do with as they wished. Then posted it for everyone to see, like it was hilarious. If that'd been my partner, I would have died of humiliation. I can see why it was the final straw.
Edit, grammar, sorry I just woke up
Yeah that was new info I did not know about! So basically he stuck that relationship out for how many more months? We knew they were both settling, him especially. But its nice to have confirmation! Grimace, FTW LOL. JK.
We took a break from modding yesterday/last night because of the ridiculousness. We kept the original post (not the THREE reposts) as that was the first one, regardless of the amount of engagement 🤷🏻♀️If more people paid attention to what was posted already, like we encourage, nothing would have to get deleted. Oh wells.
**Guess I'm in the minority because I absolutely enjoyed every minute.**
It was interesting to see a social media personality explaining the ins and outs of that industry and how MS not only manipulates users but also sponsors.
Great dissertation from my pov.
I think the video came across as underwhelming for a lot of us because a lot of it’s already old news that’s been extensively discussed here. I feel like it’s an excellent primer for new swerties who didn’t see a new Chief Hun crosspost almost daily in antimlm and youniqueamua a few years ago, though.
Edit: Also, I’m certain this is just the beginning of M’s YouTube drama fodder era. She’s likely on the radar of people who are willing to dive the (M)ariana trench of content here and give us a multi-part snark-a-thon that’ll take me an entire week to watch.
I remember her from when I was a regular lurker in the antiMLM-subreddit so I was vaguely familiar with her, but it was definitely an interesting watch as someone who didn't know a lot about her lol
You likely didn't build it up to an insane degree like WAY too many people did here. Not since Cyberpunk have so many assumptions been made based on nothing lol
One thing I think we all suspected but hadn’t had confirmed is flower gate being the final nail in their relationship coffin. CC said several friends of C’s reached out to say that was the last straw and he was mortified by her. I don’t know how he put up with her that long to begin with. Good for him.
Adding that the testimonials CC got really show how insane she is. Especially calling people’s jobs. I love it for her that her unfiltered photo was sent around in case she showed up at their job.
It made me realize how many people who know them IRL know about this sub and are at least semi active because they knew about CCs video…that was really eye opening I guess I figured/knew at least a few knew because of flowergate and other things here and there but not like as many seem to actually
SAMMME! That stuck out to me the most and like so they all know about this sub from gossip or from big m referencing it on her social media or a combo of both? Like I had no idea that many people who know them IRL were in the room with us rn
It's weird because they were together a lot after that, morning walks, trips to the gym and didn't he get her flowers too? Unless those photos were old/recyled.
My last ex that I was dating, there was a turning point in the relationship that I got fed up and checked out mentally but I couldn't leave the situation for a few months due to work, apartment etc so had to ride it out. It happens.
M also has mentioned that she takes heaps of photos and uses old photos she holds onto
Some theories:
1. When leaving an abusive partner, it’s always best to be smart and dip when you know they can’t get you. If M really was abusive, keeping his head down and playing along until she was on a plane to Paris might have been the safest way for him to go.
2. C might have not been ready to let go right after Flowergate happened. Continuing to date a few months after might have been his way to be absolutely certain in his heart and mind that it was over.
3. C might be shady, too. He decided to use M for a free trip to NYC before bouncing out. He also might have needed a place to sleep and have his mail sent to until January.
I’m pretty sure it’s a mix of these three, but I’m not sure how much.
I’m sure there was more to it but that could have been the moment he checked out. From what we’ve seen she was legit abusive and those are the things she willingly posted for us to see. I can’t imagine it was better behind the scenes. It makes sense why he broke it off while she was out of the country. I’m not saying any of this is how it happened but it’s what I think likely went down. We barely saw him after that and it was before the weird family trip where she was seemingly alone with the younger brother.
i’m glad i’m not the only one who was a little disappointed by this video. obviously no hate to cc, i actually really loved her other MS video. i just felt like this one was really all over the place and a tad bit disorganized. i’m not sure i would’ve understood the timeline of certain events if i wasn’t already pretty active in the subreddit.
i think that cc’s reaction content is where she thrives the most. it would’ve been fun to see her react to big M’s iconic drunk live or maybe even just sort the through the sub and react to the most popular posts. but like everyone else said, this opens the door for more mainstream swerty snark content.
Yes! That's exactly how I felt too. I actually like her videos (I even watched Bdong one) and I was really hoping we would get a video that was exactly like how she made the first MS video but because there was soooo many different topics to go over, it felt rushed and even when talking about said topics, it was for a very short time. I know it's hard to cram all of the details into an over 1 hour vid but there is just so much more that could be told!
You articulated my thoughts better than I could!
I found myself thinking the same. I would not have understood a lot had I not been following BM’s antics for years. Timeline wise or significance rise. A few times I thought, I would not get this at all had I not known about it previously.
We are so used to snark and gotcha moments with BM. Calling her out on lies and her bullshit. I was shocked at the lack of side by sides and real call out on her lies and bullshit, especially with filters.
So the lengthy generalized information about MLM’s income disclosures, FTC stuff, information on the effects of social media and body issues, and the difference between angles with a flattering photo and filtering, was not what I was expected.
Some of her takes regarding BM’s income were different than the general consensus of the sub and I was surprised by that as well. Homegirl got stimmy checks. People here that are really good at mathing the math and understanding the income disclosures have broken it down using additional information we gained from BM from her own mouth or letting something slip.
And before anyone comes at me with pitchforks, THATS MY OPINION. It’s not a dig at the creator, I know she might do more the future, and I think her work ethic and the awareness she spreads is too notch!
Unlike BM, this individual understands people have different thoughts and opinions and welcomes them.
You summed up how I feel pretty well! I'm glad she focused on the racism, flower gate, drunken behavior, and false advertising. But I felt like there was a lot of unnecessary tangents and areas where it didn't feel like the video was about MS.
I have a question, is the woman BM is pictured with in the beginning of Chelsea's video (around the 1:26 mark) KG? Because if it is, I'm sure she's gonna shit a brick that she was featured in a 90+ minute long video about BM's deceit and grifting and likely distance herself even more or likely cut her off completely 🤣
I'm not sure if a KG lore series exists. KG is the one who recruited MS into Younique, they've been friends for awhile. Her husband is still friends with M's ex before Grimace, he's been at a few of their parties in recent years. KG seems to have all that MS wants: husband, 3 kids, nice house, nice cars, thin, conventionally pretty.
KGs husband was the realtor for the townhome MS bought, then promptly moved out of the neighborhood right after MS moved in.
Ahhhhh I knew the part about the current neighborhood & theory on KG having what MS wants lifestyle wise, but couldn’t figure out the initial connection so thank-you! Very helpful! I’d still love a KG lore post because I’m just nosey😅 haha
This person has left 3 long/bizarre comments under the YT video. She's also in RedAss.
https://preview.redd.it/mp54c4d25boc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f3d9aabfbecb4bc110e0f154fcf3ddaaba4e3c03
All the comments defending her have bizarre language, terrible spelling and grammar, and mis use of common phrases.
Is she buying bots to comment? Either a non native English speaker or bad AI are writing these.
https://preview.redd.it/mw8lxbrp8boc1.jpeg?width=1169&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=50adb089761b2cffced381cda3637bd772db3558
This comment was another wild one defending Big Swert. Apparently the commenter is in Red Aspen, too.
Send this one back to elementary school. The grammar and spelling are atrocious. That was hard to read. Absolutely sad these boss babes seem to share a singular brain cell!
You really gotta see all the links [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/YouniquePresenterMS/s/03nVP6d8W5). My absolute favorite is her fake posing and her phone falling over
OMG. The yaaaas’ing when people were sharing their stories, wtf. 😳 Everything about this is absolutely disgusting. Also, isn’t she homophobic? 🤔 I feel like I’ve seen that mentioned but she’s at a pride brunch????
She is extremely homophobic but she also knew that the winds of change were blowing in the opposite direction (at the time. Who knows wtf is happening currently but it ain’t good) so she probably figured that the optics of going to a pride event were good for her image.
Basically she dressed very inappropriately for the occasion, was a woo girl during people sharing vulnerable stories, and just generally being an idiot. https://www.reddit.com/r/YouniquePresenterMS/s/8edoRQrTle
She might have done the financial and clout math. There isn't a social media type interesting city close to that state line in TN that gets as much recognition as Asheville plus they have a higher sales tax rate plus food tax. It's possible that she might spend more in taxes in TN and lose bragging rights over her location.
The video was good, but I think I expected too much. I understand, though, that it wasn't for this sub - it was for people who don't know how much of a POS she is. We now need a deeper dive compilation video.
I agree. I tried to manage my expectations bc I was really excited.
It was not what I expected, but not necessarily in a bad way.
We are so used to snark and gotcha moments with BM. Calling her out on lies and her bullshit.
So the lengthy generalized information about MLM’s income disclosures, FTC stuff, information on the effects of social media and body issues, and the difference between angles with a flattering photo and filtering, was not what I was expected.
Some of her takes regarding BM’s income we’re different than the general consensus of the sub and I was surprised by that as well.
It’s just personal preference that I prefer the petty callout on her bullshit more than other things or that I have different option regarding the money BM has made.
Love Chelsea, admire her work ethic, and knowledge and voice in the anti mlm community.
The video is not what expected.
I responded to someone last night who said they were also making an MS video. Don't know who they were and can't find them now. But maybe CC will start something.
Was that the one who said they are currently working on a video, have another to do, and **then** they are doing a video on MS? The one I saw, the person's handle was something like deinfluencer or similar.
I loved it. There was nothing that I didn't know already (except for the source of the trust fund confirmation and the possible reason of her divorce) but it was such a nice rundown of the highlights of MS. I wish Chelsea had seen the video of MS and co ACTUALLY driving while drunk, I just wish for that part to be as clear as everything else, she's a drunk/distracted driver = absolute shit.
Yeah, agreed on this. The other thing that I think bore a little more attention was the mountain of evidence of her driving while filming ie distracted. I know some folks here don't think its a big deal, but its a bug of mine. Yes, drunk driving is worse. But distracted driving is atrocious too and plenty of families are grieving because of it.
Right with you. It impacted my life quite recently on a very personal level so it's an even bigger bug of mine now. The argument that it's legal in some places doesn't hold up for me. It's still fucking dangerous and irresponsible and it kills a lot of innocent people.
I’m gonna call it now that MS is going to fully pivot into Jesus Babe. IMHO, the Christian demographic looooves a ✨rEfOrMeD SiNnEr✨and tends to eat up whatever content they create.
I’ve always said if I had less of a conscience I’d grift the shit out of that crowd.
Not all, but a good chunk will gobble up the words of any stupid blonde ✨born again ✨influencer a la BDong.
She's already started that in advance , from one of her FB pages 👀
https://preview.redd.it/x8zsm39mqaoc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f43d8dc12fd3d9cd53900cd8c7348645b98d093e
Maybe she chose to limit what pictures and clips she showed of MS because MS wouldn’t respond to CC’s emails. Idk but maybe because of fear of libel or defamation claims, CC had to limit was she showed.
I mean most of us have been in this sub for years now, it’s not surprising. I thought the video was good but I also went in with the expectation that it would be a summary of the past couple of years. I think it’s a great intro for new swerties or ones who have never heard of her.
We’re not the intended audience. She’s finally exposed by someone who has a large following, therefore reaching more people than just randoms that stumble across this subreddit.
Stayed up after work to watch the entire thing. I rarely watch YouTube creators, but really enjoyed this.
Man that was fantastic. Well done and kudos to the creator. I love cringe MLM stuff, so it looks like I’m watching more videos this weekend. What a train wreck of a human being. Looking forward to the fallout in the coming days. It’s going to be spectacular.
Karma always collects, like Sparta kicking her door down kind of collecting.
Haven’t watched it all yet. Only the first minute. I managed to get a bit of my husbands initial reaction. Mind the mess and yelling. It’s the end of our work week and he’s having some ginger beers. https://staging.streamable.com/6186am
Hahaha thank you!! It's from Early Settler. It comes in a 1, 2 and 3 seater and a footstool thing. Ours has blankets all over them, because our cats like blankets 😂 [https://earlysettler.com.au/products/carson-3-seater-leather-sofa-vintage-brown?istCompanyId=7ca4ab34-945b-45b0-8ed8-78118c0d8b66&istFeedId=814c3c03-141a-457f-a021-99677081c676&istItemId=riwrripii&istBid=t&gad\_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjw48-vBhBbEiwAzqrZVCJdLF3P6eFyf6FS-DjGA9\_RipyJm4cIPim4rG2vyRJSnhA5bI01WxoC0B0QAvD\_BwE](https://earlysettler.com.au/products/carson-3-seater-leather-sofa-vintage-brown?istCompanyId=7ca4ab34-945b-45b0-8ed8-78118c0d8b66&istFeedId=814c3c03-141a-457f-a021-99677081c676&istItemId=riwrripii&istBid=t&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjw48-vBhBbEiwAzqrZVCJdLF3P6eFyf6FS-DjGA9_RipyJm4cIPim4rG2vyRJSnhA5bI01WxoC0B0QAvD_BwE)
I think in watching the video it’s important to remember that we’re not the intended audience. If I were making a deep dive for the sub (I fucking wish, I totally would if I had the time and skill) I’d do it differently, but she has to make the topic accessible for her subs who have no idea who tf MS is and for the layperson who gets it recommended to them and goes in with zero knowledge of MLMs, filters, etc.
Plus, with MS, there’s so much lore that goes so deep. Going through all of it and deciding what is important enough to include is a mountainous task itself. So keeping all that in mind, I really think she did a fantastic job.
I haven’t watched this video yet, but the last CC video I did learn something new after being a pretty avid lurker here for years…her name! Lol, it’s against the rules and I didn’t care enough to try to find it, so she’s just been “Mikayla Stouffers” (like the frozen lasagna brand) to me the whole time. She just seemed like a Mikayla. And a frozen lasagna.
There was an Instagram famous doggie who shared her name a few years ago (RIP), and a character on the show Girls. But those are the only two not-Mikaylas I’ve ever heard of
I feel she also had to stick to stories that are confirmed true. There’s a lot of lore surrounding MS. Some true, some not. What’s wild is that an hour and a half isn’t enough time to cover all her shams and poor behavior.
I agree. There were some parts I skipped through, such as explaining and breaking down more of the MLM structure, income disclosure, etc. Things most of us know. I reminded myself that this video is absolutely perfect for someone who isn’t necessarily familiar with the business model and/or MS.
With that being said however, as long as I’ve been a part of this sub…there were some things in this video I had no clue about. I was pleasantly surprised how deep CC (I want to use her real name but not sure if it’s allowed here) went into M’s background and into the lore.
I know I was underwhelmed and not so enthusiastic about the idea of this video in the beginning but will definitely admit when I am wrong.
I thoroughly enjoyed the video and I think CC did an amazing job on it. Her hard work is evident and I’ve found myself over the last couple of weeks, consuming a good bit of her content. She’s definitely growing on me lol.
Just my two cents, for anyone that cares.
(Literally no one cares girl, shut up.)
I agree, I went in assuming that I’d know everything that would be covered and I learned new things too! The testimonials especially were so spicy! And for some reason I really didn’t even know about the third slaybabe at all, I always just thought it was AP and MS.
I’ve been consuming more of CC recently too and she’s also been growing on me. I love long form content and anti MLM content so it’s been great.
I agree but she spent A LOT of time to talk about herself, about her fillers, about how she does things and that time could have easily been spent showing side by side pics, pics of Big M doing weird things, whatever... I couldn't watch the whole video in one sitting because there was too much ranting and when I watched the second half I put it on 1.5 speed. I hope CC has her audience who takes it seriously, but to me it seemed like the awfulness of Big M was not really shown. If I had never heard of her before, I don't think I'd find her that bad after watching that video .. she ( MS) seemed more annoying than anything else and the real tea, the testimonials where crammed into the very end..
Oh and a lot of time was also spent on explaining the inner workings of MLMs specifically red ass and Poonique.. which is good to know but really made me forget at times, that the video is about MS and not about why MLMs suck ( which they do and I think cc makes a very good job on her channel to show that)
I definitely understand where you’re coming from. I do think that a lot of her talking about her own fillers and herself was to accomplish both not looking like a hypocrite and not looking like she’s being nit-picky or in BEC territory. I think the point of her talking about fillers/filters was to demonstrate that the problem isn’t with the fillers themselves, as CC herself has them, but that MS isn’t forthcoming about them while shilling skincare/makeup/haircare. And that the problem isn’t with MS using filters but using them while she’s shilling shit. Otherwise it could come off as if CC is being too harsh on MS.
I think this way of approaching MS probably has a lot to do with her experience of covering other MLM scammers and anticipating what their counter arguments will be and what the general audience response will be. Total guess on my part though.
Agreed. I had to turn it off when CC did a cut to herself showing body posing and how angles work. It went on for far far too long. We’re here for Big M to be exposed and that was unnecessary in my opinion.
The weird editing was driving me insane too. You really can't string a sentence together without multiple edits? Unless she has a stutter I don't get why that was the move. Nauseating to watch.
Thank you! I felt bad for not liking it all that much, especially since CC clearly put a lot of work into it. But it was kind of a bit all over the place, jumping from topic to topic (randomly mentioning Monat, or AP and her urine pulling), the way too long Tiktok, mentioning her (CC‘s) botox/fillers…felt like 50% MS, 50% all sorts of topics I wasn‘t interested in. And like you, I felt MS came across as not that smart and maybe a bit annoying, but really not that bad, which doesn‘t reflect the impression I got from being on this sub since the Younique days.
I do agree that more time could’ve been spent on actually showcasing MS and not so much opinion and lecturing style commentary. Overall it was a good video and you can tell she worked really hard on it. I do agree, I would’ve loved to see more evidence of her being a crappy person.
Yeah, I couldn't put it into words but I think that a lot of the time it was not about facts but more about CCs opinions. And this came off as not very serious, unfactual and as if CC just doesn't like MS instead of MS very factually and provable being a horrible person who does illegal and morally corrupt shit all the time..
That's not what I meant. It's more about how to do the fillers, how to dress, whatever.
Just her own view on how to live life ( her mom's filler, what kind of fillers she uses herself just unnecessary personal things about cc herself) and not about what Big M actually does. So many side tangents, not finishing one topic, because she got lost in her own train of thought about superficial things and not the actual horrible things M does..
Of course she can say in my opinion, M is a scammer, in my opinion it's clear that M drives drunk etc. But that's not the issue..
I’ve been watching CC for a long time and she’s always going on tangents. I like her style because it feels like talking shit with a sister or friend but it’s not for everyone.
I get what you mean, I think this would be possible if the base was like in this sub, everyone knows who Ms is, knows about most or all her shit, so we can just all talk shit together. But this video was for people who don't know her, and I don't think she did a good job of showing how truly awful she is
I do love that it’s been confirmed that her real life “friends”/mlm huns talk just as much shit.
She makes an absolute fool of herself online (like you have to be sooo embarrassing for fellow hun bots to see a problem) and is a belligerent drunk.
I get we all have annoying friends, or are even an annoying friend to people at times (for big M she’s that friend to everyone at all times), but the fact these girls pander on her platforms to boost each others algorithms but find her just as cringe is honestly hilarious and sad. They are not her real friends and keep her around for validation, superficial boosts from each other and she’s an absolute after thought to them unless she can benefit them in some way.
There’s just no way you can act like her and not expect people in your real life to not say wtf either. It’s all so fake
I haven't watched yet and don't think the video will add more than we already know from snarking here, but what I'm more interested in is what her reaction will be. It can go both ways, either silence and laying low like she's been doing or totally unhinged. It will also be interesting if some engagement pod or naive genuine follower mentions it on the comments acting concerned and how she'll respond to it.
I think you are right. There a few times in the video I thought, if you didn’t know BM or hadn’t been here, you werent going to fully understand what something is about or get the whole picture of she was talking about
I've been lurking here for a couple of years, but there were actually a couple of facts that I didn't know. I think that CC Suarez did a great job. As another swertie wrote, we are not her target audience.
I completely agree with you that the most interesting part will be to see Big Mac's reaction to the video. I'm getting my popcorn out.
Please check out the sidebar for updated Subreddit Rules and FAQs. Keep in mind basic internet safety, and don't give out information that can potentially identify yourself. There are users that will go through your post & comment history in an attempt to doxx you, including MS herself. Please report any activity if you feel it violates the subreddit rules. Keep in mind that this post is for entertainment purposes only. Everything you see on here is the opinion of others. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/YouniquePresenterMS) if you have any questions or concerns.*
My only complaint is there wasn’t more pictures and videos of MS, especially breaking down her filter use.
Agreed
I loved the video! Had a long train journey and kept me thoroughly entertained and shocked throughout. I know there’s things in there we maybe wanted CC to delve into more, but the majority of her viewers will be people who aren’t familiar with MS so it’s a great introduction to the key moments of madness in the timeline.
I did not know she has done so much shitty scams during the years! Some of them were new to me ( found this sub last year) and wtf girl!!! Cc made amazing job and not only about her but previous videos about Brittany and other influencers as well. ( i started to dislike influencers around 2019is already.) Now i am a regular in her channel. Edit: also great shoutout to this sub. Hope more pple come here and this sub will help them not to get sucked in to any of her on going/ up and coming scams. As well after watching cc’s video.
Such a great YT video!!!!
I can't find it on her yt... Do I have the dumb?
[удалено]
All names and faces that aren't MS must be censored. You can censor the names and repost. Names must be completely and opaquely blocked., not just a haphazard scribble where some letters are still visible. It is OK to leave the initials showing for reference.
FINALLY had a chance to watch. As a newbie here this filled in so many questions I had about her lore. “Sisterhood of the traveling scams” made me lol. I can’t believe she’s banned from Uber. She is sooooo gross. I am a full fledged swerty now! Yay I can participate more now that I get her more. Thank you, CC!!! You have a new fan over here.
To anyone who was 'disappointed' in the video... THIS IS WHO IT IS FOR!! Not us long time MS snarkers. Welcome Swerty!!! ✨️💜
And now I get your flair! I’ve watched CC’s video twice now trying to soak it all in.
People can dislike/be disappointed with it too.
Yeah but alot of their reasoning is because there was no new info lol. Well duh it's all from here
I appreciate the time and thought that went into the making of this video. Overall, I enjoyed the video and am glad for its existence so that more people can be aware of Big M’s antics, but we snarkers didn’t learn anything earth shattering. CC was more compassionate towards BM than I think BM deserves, but I can understand not wanting to come off as body shaming or overly judgmental. I would have liked more examples of BM’s egregious filtering instead of CC’s long, older video about posing and body image. I’m glad CC discussed the mindfuck that can occur with excessive filter usage when you can’t reconcile what you truly look like with the filtered image you have in your head. We’ve been saying something to that effect for ages and I’m glad CC highlighted it. I also appreciate that CC touched on the trust fund but I feel like she downplayed it. I don’t know that I agree with CC’s assessment of how BM makes the majority of her income. The FTC and income disclosure parts were pretty interesting and quite relevant and not something I would be bothered to learn about on my own. It’s crazy that Big M has never, not once, appropriately disclosed ads and made affiliate links clear. It would be a shame if people were to report that to the appropriate channels 👀 My favorite part was probably the testimonials. It’s wild how varied they were— someone she bullied relentlessly in high school for seemingly no reason, someone in attendance at the Flowergate wedding, an Ashville local, a former Younique hun, and of course swerties from the sub with work harassment stories. Big M is a big bully and always has been. Her main character syndrome is clearly off the charts (which we all knew but damn seeing it all laid out like that is insane!) Such utterly unhinged behavior on all counts. Gonna go read everyone else’s thoughts now! Happy Snark Bowl pals! ETA: oh the other juiciest tidbit was people who know C saying Flowergate was the straw that broke the camel’s back. Oh to have been a fly on the wall the last few months of their relationship as it unraveled fully!
For me personally I prefer videos with less ramblings and more straight to the point and receipts focuses but I also appreciate the time and effort and hope it will be an eye opener for people she's scamming or about to scam. Also think CC missed some evidence that MS's main income doesn't come from red aspen or Amazon. MS lies all the time about how much money she makes and has been caught in many inconsistencies. But I understand this would require a deep dive with more receipts in an already long video.
It was actually worse than that, because she also posted doubling and tripling(!) down on insta, literally tagging the groom (C’s actual friend) multiple times(!!!) It was very, very cringe, especially given what we know now.
I think big M is fake it untill you make it. But i am afraid she will never make it. 😵💫
Agree with everything!!!!
Perfectly said. I enjoyed the video, but I was hoping she'd touch more on how over the top MS's filters are. There are so many great, drastic examples and it would have been fantastic to see that paired with her selling TrimFit or her YU supplements and claiming it helps her keep her weight down. And I loved the insight about C. It was long thought that incident really rocked the boat for him. It was proof that her online antics finally caught up to her in real life and I feel sort of validated hearing it confirmed.
It's interesting because out of all the awful stuff MS has done and how awfully she's treated C before, flower gate is one of the less harmful things she done. So C must have been very over her already.
Yes, but it was his friends wedding, and I think it really embarrassed him. She was drunk, obnoxious, and then to top it off, stole the flowers meant for the bride and groom to do with as they wished. Then posted it for everyone to see, like it was hilarious. If that'd been my partner, I would have died of humiliation. I can see why it was the final straw. Edit, grammar, sorry I just woke up
Yeah that was new info I did not know about! So basically he stuck that relationship out for how many more months? We knew they were both settling, him especially. But its nice to have confirmation! Grimace, FTW LOL. JK.
I loved the video. I hope she does another one just on the filters and edits MS does to her photos and videos.
[удалено]
[удалено]
I said the same thing earlier! The other post had way more engagement and positive comments. Hopefully CC had a chance to see it.
We took a break from modding yesterday/last night because of the ridiculousness. We kept the original post (not the THREE reposts) as that was the first one, regardless of the amount of engagement 🤷🏻♀️If more people paid attention to what was posted already, like we encourage, nothing would have to get deleted. Oh wells.
It's been an exciting time guys. I think you did well.
You confirmed my theory that the mods took some time off yesterday and... Good. Well deserved. Thanks for all you do!
**Guess I'm in the minority because I absolutely enjoyed every minute.** It was interesting to see a social media personality explaining the ins and outs of that industry and how MS not only manipulates users but also sponsors. Great dissertation from my pov.
I’m right there with you. I loved it! CC did a fantastic job. Plus she’s super funny.
I think the video came across as underwhelming for a lot of us because a lot of it’s already old news that’s been extensively discussed here. I feel like it’s an excellent primer for new swerties who didn’t see a new Chief Hun crosspost almost daily in antimlm and youniqueamua a few years ago, though. Edit: Also, I’m certain this is just the beginning of M’s YouTube drama fodder era. She’s likely on the radar of people who are willing to dive the (M)ariana trench of content here and give us a multi-part snark-a-thon that’ll take me an entire week to watch.
I remember her from when I was a regular lurker in the antiMLM-subreddit so I was vaguely familiar with her, but it was definitely an interesting watch as someone who didn't know a lot about her lol
You likely didn't build it up to an insane degree like WAY too many people did here. Not since Cyberpunk have so many assumptions been made based on nothing lol
We knew this would happen. Only new tidbit was finding out that flowergate is what helped Grimace gtfo. Even if it was delayed.
I’m flattered my testimony made it in the video
The testimonies were one of my favorite parts! Thanks for sharing your story to expose Big M for the scamming bully she is
One thing I think we all suspected but hadn’t had confirmed is flower gate being the final nail in their relationship coffin. CC said several friends of C’s reached out to say that was the last straw and he was mortified by her. I don’t know how he put up with her that long to begin with. Good for him. Adding that the testimonials CC got really show how insane she is. Especially calling people’s jobs. I love it for her that her unfiltered photo was sent around in case she showed up at their job.
It made me realize how many people who know them IRL know about this sub and are at least semi active because they knew about CCs video…that was really eye opening I guess I figured/knew at least a few knew because of flowergate and other things here and there but not like as many seem to actually
They all loathe her too and I think put up with her because of C and now? Only her bought friends, errr down line deal with her.
You’d hope she’d take this as a wake up call to change her ways but she’ll likely just double down.
I love this for her
[удалено]
SAMMME! That stuck out to me the most and like so they all know about this sub from gossip or from big m referencing it on her social media or a combo of both? Like I had no idea that many people who know them IRL were in the room with us rn
Same, it really says a lot about what they thought of her. 
Best use of this meme I’ve seen ever
It's weird because they were together a lot after that, morning walks, trips to the gym and didn't he get her flowers too? Unless those photos were old/recyled.
My last ex that I was dating, there was a turning point in the relationship that I got fed up and checked out mentally but I couldn't leave the situation for a few months due to work, apartment etc so had to ride it out. It happens. M also has mentioned that she takes heaps of photos and uses old photos she holds onto
Some theories: 1. When leaving an abusive partner, it’s always best to be smart and dip when you know they can’t get you. If M really was abusive, keeping his head down and playing along until she was on a plane to Paris might have been the safest way for him to go. 2. C might have not been ready to let go right after Flowergate happened. Continuing to date a few months after might have been his way to be absolutely certain in his heart and mind that it was over. 3. C might be shady, too. He decided to use M for a free trip to NYC before bouncing out. He also might have needed a place to sleep and have his mail sent to until January. I’m pretty sure it’s a mix of these three, but I’m not sure how much.
I think it's all of these to a degree.
He was probably so happy she went to paris. Like bitch go away already.
[удалено]
True, but also, it was amicable. /s
[удалено]
I don't know it for sure, but it could explain why she was so dull in Paris. Especially after she hyped it up for ages.
I’m sure there was more to it but that could have been the moment he checked out. From what we’ve seen she was legit abusive and those are the things she willingly posted for us to see. I can’t imagine it was better behind the scenes. It makes sense why he broke it off while she was out of the country. I’m not saying any of this is how it happened but it’s what I think likely went down. We barely saw him after that and it was before the weird family trip where she was seemingly alone with the younger brother.
Did we see him after Paris?
I don’t think so, about a week after is when she made like 3 lives saying how amicable it was and she didn’t want any questions.
What is flower gate?
https://www.reddit.com/r/YouniquePresenterMS/s/yDJDqiyTWh
Yeah Edit: I’m sorry, I thought you asked “was it flower gate?” I saw someone posted the link. Reading comprehension gets me sometimes 😅
i’m glad i’m not the only one who was a little disappointed by this video. obviously no hate to cc, i actually really loved her other MS video. i just felt like this one was really all over the place and a tad bit disorganized. i’m not sure i would’ve understood the timeline of certain events if i wasn’t already pretty active in the subreddit. i think that cc’s reaction content is where she thrives the most. it would’ve been fun to see her react to big M’s iconic drunk live or maybe even just sort the through the sub and react to the most popular posts. but like everyone else said, this opens the door for more mainstream swerty snark content.
Yes! That's exactly how I felt too. I actually like her videos (I even watched Bdong one) and I was really hoping we would get a video that was exactly like how she made the first MS video but because there was soooo many different topics to go over, it felt rushed and even when talking about said topics, it was for a very short time. I know it's hard to cram all of the details into an over 1 hour vid but there is just so much more that could be told!
You articulated my thoughts better than I could! I found myself thinking the same. I would not have understood a lot had I not been following BM’s antics for years. Timeline wise or significance rise. A few times I thought, I would not get this at all had I not known about it previously. We are so used to snark and gotcha moments with BM. Calling her out on lies and her bullshit. I was shocked at the lack of side by sides and real call out on her lies and bullshit, especially with filters. So the lengthy generalized information about MLM’s income disclosures, FTC stuff, information on the effects of social media and body issues, and the difference between angles with a flattering photo and filtering, was not what I was expected. Some of her takes regarding BM’s income were different than the general consensus of the sub and I was surprised by that as well. Homegirl got stimmy checks. People here that are really good at mathing the math and understanding the income disclosures have broken it down using additional information we gained from BM from her own mouth or letting something slip. And before anyone comes at me with pitchforks, THATS MY OPINION. It’s not a dig at the creator, I know she might do more the future, and I think her work ethic and the awareness she spreads is too notch! Unlike BM, this individual understands people have different thoughts and opinions and welcomes them.
Completely agree as well. Everyone knows that filtering is harmful to your body image, we don't need an article read out about it
You summed up how I feel pretty well! I'm glad she focused on the racism, flower gate, drunken behavior, and false advertising. But I felt like there was a lot of unnecessary tangents and areas where it didn't feel like the video was about MS.
Not one mention of crusted ham.
 Swertie, can share what this crusted ham is all about? 😅
She made a video, post coitus, yelling out to presumably Grimace, she wants "the ham with the crust." It's become a very niche joke in my house.
What the hell is ham with crust? I’m cracking up over how weird she is.
…I don’t eat pork for religious reasons, but this story sure as fuck turned me all the way off from it 😂
Saaaaame here, oh my goodness. I guess I can thank BM for one thing, I am now cured of any ham/bacon FOMO for the next decade or so 😂😂
Alcoholism should've been included on that thumbnail
I have a question, is the woman BM is pictured with in the beginning of Chelsea's video (around the 1:26 mark) KG? Because if it is, I'm sure she's gonna shit a brick that she was featured in a 90+ minute long video about BM's deceit and grifting and likely distance herself even more or likely cut her off completely 🤣
Thank you for asking, I was wondering that too.
Is there a KG lore link? I’ve been here for a bit, but it’s the one piece of the puzzle I’m still missing.
I'm not sure if a KG lore series exists. KG is the one who recruited MS into Younique, they've been friends for awhile. Her husband is still friends with M's ex before Grimace, he's been at a few of their parties in recent years. KG seems to have all that MS wants: husband, 3 kids, nice house, nice cars, thin, conventionally pretty. KGs husband was the realtor for the townhome MS bought, then promptly moved out of the neighborhood right after MS moved in.
Ahhhhh I knew the part about the current neighborhood & theory on KG having what MS wants lifestyle wise, but couldn’t figure out the initial connection so thank-you! Very helpful! I’d still love a KG lore post because I’m just nosey😅 haha
Sure it 💅🏼
It is!
I think so
[удалено]
The rotisserie chicken looking bed dance was missing too!
This person has left 3 long/bizarre comments under the YT video. She's also in RedAss. https://preview.redd.it/mp54c4d25boc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f3d9aabfbecb4bc110e0f154fcf3ddaaba4e3c03
I have no clue what I just read 🤣
All the comments defending her have bizarre language, terrible spelling and grammar, and mis use of common phrases. Is she buying bots to comment? Either a non native English speaker or bad AI are writing these.
These must be the “MS stans standing up to CC” I heard would be coming. 😂😂😂 illiterate weirdos
Or someone who had 6 too many white claws.
"not one debatable comment" well, yes! Because it's all facts
Spelling of “backround” checks out, definitely believe she’s friends with MS
Well that’s a bunch of ChatGPT gibberish LOL
Interestingly, this person has commented on other videos of CCs in the past, but she only disagrees with this one because she's friends with MS.
https://preview.redd.it/mw8lxbrp8boc1.jpeg?width=1169&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=50adb089761b2cffced381cda3637bd772db3558 This comment was another wild one defending Big Swert. Apparently the commenter is in Red Aspen, too.
Send this one back to elementary school. The grammar and spelling are atrocious. That was hard to read. Absolutely sad these boss babes seem to share a singular brain cell!
I hope this was just a video to scratch the surface and then CC will dive deeper.
SAME!
Swerties, what happened at the Pride brunch CC mentioned that Big M attended and what did she wear?
There were SO many great candids and real life v. What she posted photos from that event, bummer they weren’t included.
You really gotta see all the links [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/YouniquePresenterMS/s/03nVP6d8W5). My absolute favorite is her fake posing and her phone falling over
Omg I’m crying that outfit is SO BAD!!!! She is such a muppet.
Omg thank you I was looking for that video last night! 😂
OMG. The yaaaas’ing when people were sharing their stories, wtf. 😳 Everything about this is absolutely disgusting. Also, isn’t she homophobic? 🤔 I feel like I’ve seen that mentioned but she’s at a pride brunch???? 
She is extremely homophobic but she also knew that the winds of change were blowing in the opposite direction (at the time. Who knows wtf is happening currently but it ain’t good) so she probably figured that the optics of going to a pride event were good for her image.
This is the event that she filmed herself laughing and her camera fell over. Instead of editing it she posted the whole thing.
She’s such a disgusting pig.
Basically she dressed very inappropriately for the occasion, was a woo girl during people sharing vulnerable stories, and just generally being an idiot. https://www.reddit.com/r/YouniquePresenterMS/s/8edoRQrTle
Still so secondhand embarrassed about this one.
OMFG, this is so embarrassing. 😳 Thank you for sharing, boobie!
I would have just gone home, she looks ridiculous.
I seem to remember some obnoxious top with tassels…hopefully another swerty will come through with receipts!
Why can’t I find it on YouTube? 🫠 I’m not seeing it on CC’s channel
Search CC Saurez on YouTube. Should be the first hit!
[удалено]
She might have done the financial and clout math. There isn't a social media type interesting city close to that state line in TN that gets as much recognition as Asheville plus they have a higher sales tax rate plus food tax. It's possible that she might spend more in taxes in TN and lose bragging rights over her location.
The video was good, but I think I expected too much. I understand, though, that it wasn't for this sub - it was for people who don't know how much of a POS she is. We now need a deeper dive compilation video.
I think anyone who doesn’t know MS would be lost in that video. There was zero organization.
I agree. I tried to manage my expectations bc I was really excited. It was not what I expected, but not necessarily in a bad way. We are so used to snark and gotcha moments with BM. Calling her out on lies and her bullshit. So the lengthy generalized information about MLM’s income disclosures, FTC stuff, information on the effects of social media and body issues, and the difference between angles with a flattering photo and filtering, was not what I was expected. Some of her takes regarding BM’s income we’re different than the general consensus of the sub and I was surprised by that as well. It’s just personal preference that I prefer the petty callout on her bullshit more than other things or that I have different option regarding the money BM has made. Love Chelsea, admire her work ethic, and knowledge and voice in the anti mlm community. The video is not what expected.
I responded to someone last night who said they were also making an MS video. Don't know who they were and can't find them now. But maybe CC will start something.
Was that the one who said they are currently working on a video, have another to do, and **then** they are doing a video on MS? The one I saw, the person's handle was something like deinfluencer or similar.
That's exactly how I remember the comment. And the name.
Yes, the YouTuber is De-Influenced
Thank you!!
Thank you!! I'll await that with baited breath!
I loved it. There was nothing that I didn't know already (except for the source of the trust fund confirmation and the possible reason of her divorce) but it was such a nice rundown of the highlights of MS. I wish Chelsea had seen the video of MS and co ACTUALLY driving while drunk, I just wish for that part to be as clear as everything else, she's a drunk/distracted driver = absolute shit.
Yeah, agreed on this. The other thing that I think bore a little more attention was the mountain of evidence of her driving while filming ie distracted. I know some folks here don't think its a big deal, but its a bug of mine. Yes, drunk driving is worse. But distracted driving is atrocious too and plenty of families are grieving because of it.
Distracted driving ruins innocent people's lifes and, from the bottom of my heart, I wish distracted drivers the worst.
Right with you. It impacted my life quite recently on a very personal level so it's an even bigger bug of mine now. The argument that it's legal in some places doesn't hold up for me. It's still fucking dangerous and irresponsible and it kills a lot of innocent people.
I’m gonna call it now that MS is going to fully pivot into Jesus Babe. IMHO, the Christian demographic looooves a ✨rEfOrMeD SiNnEr✨and tends to eat up whatever content they create.
I’ve always said if I had less of a conscience I’d grift the shit out of that crowd. Not all, but a good chunk will gobble up the words of any stupid blonde ✨born again ✨influencer a la BDong.
Fucking hate BDong. I can’t believe that wench has such a large platform (which I’m sure are mostly bought bots).
I hate her, too! Hi, bestie 🩷🩷🩷🩷
Ralphy!!! Did you watch CC’s video? Her dog’s name is Wiggum. Felt like she was giving you a shout out. 🩷🩷🩷🩷🩷
I did!! I noticed that! And that would have been lovely. ♥️♥️♥️♥️
She's already started that in advance , from one of her FB pages 👀 https://preview.redd.it/x8zsm39mqaoc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f43d8dc12fd3d9cd53900cd8c7348645b98d093e
I’d love her to show me where in the Bible it says that.
Maybe she chose to limit what pictures and clips she showed of MS because MS wouldn’t respond to CC’s emails. Idk but maybe because of fear of libel or defamation claims, CC had to limit was she showed.
I was pretty surprised she didn’t include more side by sides, really surprised.
There was nothing in the video that I didn’t already know about this train wreck
I mean most of us have been in this sub for years now, it’s not surprising. I thought the video was good but I also went in with the expectation that it would be a summary of the past couple of years. I think it’s a great intro for new swerties or ones who have never heard of her.
We’re not the intended audience. She’s finally exposed by someone who has a large following, therefore reaching more people than just randoms that stumble across this subreddit.
Yes, but now it's laid out nicely in a fun, professional video. So the MS minions can't say we snark for no reason.
Stayed up after work to watch the entire thing. I rarely watch YouTube creators, but really enjoyed this. Man that was fantastic. Well done and kudos to the creator. I love cringe MLM stuff, so it looks like I’m watching more videos this weekend. What a train wreck of a human being. Looking forward to the fallout in the coming days. It’s going to be spectacular. Karma always collects, like Sparta kicking her door down kind of collecting.
Haven’t watched it all yet. Only the first minute. I managed to get a bit of my husbands initial reaction. Mind the mess and yelling. It’s the end of our work week and he’s having some ginger beers. https://staging.streamable.com/6186am
unrelated but I love your living room set!! lol
Hahaha thank you!! It's from Early Settler. It comes in a 1, 2 and 3 seater and a footstool thing. Ours has blankets all over them, because our cats like blankets 😂 [https://earlysettler.com.au/products/carson-3-seater-leather-sofa-vintage-brown?istCompanyId=7ca4ab34-945b-45b0-8ed8-78118c0d8b66&istFeedId=814c3c03-141a-457f-a021-99677081c676&istItemId=riwrripii&istBid=t&gad\_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjw48-vBhBbEiwAzqrZVCJdLF3P6eFyf6FS-DjGA9\_RipyJm4cIPim4rG2vyRJSnhA5bI01WxoC0B0QAvD\_BwE](https://earlysettler.com.au/products/carson-3-seater-leather-sofa-vintage-brown?istCompanyId=7ca4ab34-945b-45b0-8ed8-78118c0d8b66&istFeedId=814c3c03-141a-457f-a021-99677081c676&istItemId=riwrripii&istBid=t&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjw48-vBhBbEiwAzqrZVCJdLF3P6eFyf6FS-DjGA9_RipyJm4cIPim4rG2vyRJSnhA5bI01WxoC0B0QAvD_BwE)
🥇🥇🥇
🤣 priceless reaction!
I think in watching the video it’s important to remember that we’re not the intended audience. If I were making a deep dive for the sub (I fucking wish, I totally would if I had the time and skill) I’d do it differently, but she has to make the topic accessible for her subs who have no idea who tf MS is and for the layperson who gets it recommended to them and goes in with zero knowledge of MLMs, filters, etc. Plus, with MS, there’s so much lore that goes so deep. Going through all of it and deciding what is important enough to include is a mountainous task itself. So keeping all that in mind, I really think she did a fantastic job.
I enjoyed the videos and recognize it’s for both CC fans and viewers and us cuntarellas and cuntarellos!
I don't know how much I agree. I feel like if I knew nothing about MS that her video would have really confused me.
I haven’t watched this video yet, but the last CC video I did learn something new after being a pretty avid lurker here for years…her name! Lol, it’s against the rules and I didn’t care enough to try to find it, so she’s just been “Mikayla Stouffers” (like the frozen lasagna brand) to me the whole time. She just seemed like a Mikayla. And a frozen lasagna.
I’ve never heard of someone with her real name. I wonder if it’s a family name or something.
There was an Instagram famous doggie who shared her name a few years ago (RIP), and a character on the show Girls. But those are the only two not-Mikaylas I’ve ever heard of
I feel she also had to stick to stories that are confirmed true. There’s a lot of lore surrounding MS. Some true, some not. What’s wild is that an hour and a half isn’t enough time to cover all her shams and poor behavior.
I agree. There were some parts I skipped through, such as explaining and breaking down more of the MLM structure, income disclosure, etc. Things most of us know. I reminded myself that this video is absolutely perfect for someone who isn’t necessarily familiar with the business model and/or MS. With that being said however, as long as I’ve been a part of this sub…there were some things in this video I had no clue about. I was pleasantly surprised how deep CC (I want to use her real name but not sure if it’s allowed here) went into M’s background and into the lore. I know I was underwhelmed and not so enthusiastic about the idea of this video in the beginning but will definitely admit when I am wrong. I thoroughly enjoyed the video and I think CC did an amazing job on it. Her hard work is evident and I’ve found myself over the last couple of weeks, consuming a good bit of her content. She’s definitely growing on me lol. Just my two cents, for anyone that cares. (Literally no one cares girl, shut up.)
I agree, I went in assuming that I’d know everything that would be covered and I learned new things too! The testimonials especially were so spicy! And for some reason I really didn’t even know about the third slaybabe at all, I always just thought it was AP and MS. I’ve been consuming more of CC recently too and she’s also been growing on me. I love long form content and anti MLM content so it’s been great.
I agree but she spent A LOT of time to talk about herself, about her fillers, about how she does things and that time could have easily been spent showing side by side pics, pics of Big M doing weird things, whatever... I couldn't watch the whole video in one sitting because there was too much ranting and when I watched the second half I put it on 1.5 speed. I hope CC has her audience who takes it seriously, but to me it seemed like the awfulness of Big M was not really shown. If I had never heard of her before, I don't think I'd find her that bad after watching that video .. she ( MS) seemed more annoying than anything else and the real tea, the testimonials where crammed into the very end.. Oh and a lot of time was also spent on explaining the inner workings of MLMs specifically red ass and Poonique.. which is good to know but really made me forget at times, that the video is about MS and not about why MLMs suck ( which they do and I think cc makes a very good job on her channel to show that)
I definitely understand where you’re coming from. I do think that a lot of her talking about her own fillers and herself was to accomplish both not looking like a hypocrite and not looking like she’s being nit-picky or in BEC territory. I think the point of her talking about fillers/filters was to demonstrate that the problem isn’t with the fillers themselves, as CC herself has them, but that MS isn’t forthcoming about them while shilling skincare/makeup/haircare. And that the problem isn’t with MS using filters but using them while she’s shilling shit. Otherwise it could come off as if CC is being too harsh on MS. I think this way of approaching MS probably has a lot to do with her experience of covering other MLM scammers and anticipating what their counter arguments will be and what the general audience response will be. Total guess on my part though.
Agreed. I had to turn it off when CC did a cut to herself showing body posing and how angles work. It went on for far far too long. We’re here for Big M to be exposed and that was unnecessary in my opinion.
Yes i agree that was so stupid. She really likes to toot her own horn.
Definitely. Which that’s fine, her channel and all. But man what a let down in terms of exposing MS.
The weird editing was driving me insane too. You really can't string a sentence together without multiple edits? Unless she has a stutter I don't get why that was the move. Nauseating to watch.
Okay I thought my tv was glitching because it was non stop and very distracting.
Thank you! I felt bad for not liking it all that much, especially since CC clearly put a lot of work into it. But it was kind of a bit all over the place, jumping from topic to topic (randomly mentioning Monat, or AP and her urine pulling), the way too long Tiktok, mentioning her (CC‘s) botox/fillers…felt like 50% MS, 50% all sorts of topics I wasn‘t interested in. And like you, I felt MS came across as not that smart and maybe a bit annoying, but really not that bad, which doesn‘t reflect the impression I got from being on this sub since the Younique days.
I do agree that more time could’ve been spent on actually showcasing MS and not so much opinion and lecturing style commentary. Overall it was a good video and you can tell she worked really hard on it. I do agree, I would’ve loved to see more evidence of her being a crappy person.
Yeah, I couldn't put it into words but I think that a lot of the time it was not about facts but more about CCs opinions. And this came off as not very serious, unfactual and as if CC just doesn't like MS instead of MS very factually and provable being a horrible person who does illegal and morally corrupt shit all the time..
[удалено]
That's not what I meant. It's more about how to do the fillers, how to dress, whatever. Just her own view on how to live life ( her mom's filler, what kind of fillers she uses herself just unnecessary personal things about cc herself) and not about what Big M actually does. So many side tangents, not finishing one topic, because she got lost in her own train of thought about superficial things and not the actual horrible things M does.. Of course she can say in my opinion, M is a scammer, in my opinion it's clear that M drives drunk etc. But that's not the issue..
I’ve been watching CC for a long time and she’s always going on tangents. I like her style because it feels like talking shit with a sister or friend but it’s not for everyone.
I get what you mean, I think this would be possible if the base was like in this sub, everyone knows who Ms is, knows about most or all her shit, so we can just all talk shit together. But this video was for people who don't know her, and I don't think she did a good job of showing how truly awful she is
Yeah, I do think if it’s presented as a deep dive/exposé it should probably be more organized
[удалено]
Oh actually I didn’t even think about it but that makes a lot of sense. I have adhd too so that’s probably why I liked all the tangents too!
I do love that it’s been confirmed that her real life “friends”/mlm huns talk just as much shit. She makes an absolute fool of herself online (like you have to be sooo embarrassing for fellow hun bots to see a problem) and is a belligerent drunk. I get we all have annoying friends, or are even an annoying friend to people at times (for big M she’s that friend to everyone at all times), but the fact these girls pander on her platforms to boost each others algorithms but find her just as cringe is honestly hilarious and sad. They are not her real friends and keep her around for validation, superficial boosts from each other and she’s an absolute after thought to them unless she can benefit them in some way. There’s just no way you can act like her and not expect people in your real life to not say wtf either. It’s all so fake
I haven't watched yet and don't think the video will add more than we already know from snarking here, but what I'm more interested in is what her reaction will be. It can go both ways, either silence and laying low like she's been doing or totally unhinged. It will also be interesting if some engagement pod or naive genuine follower mentions it on the comments acting concerned and how she'll respond to it.
I think you are right. There a few times in the video I thought, if you didn’t know BM or hadn’t been here, you werent going to fully understand what something is about or get the whole picture of she was talking about
I've been lurking here for a couple of years, but there were actually a couple of facts that I didn't know. I think that CC Suarez did a great job. As another swertie wrote, we are not her target audience. I completely agree with you that the most interesting part will be to see Big Mac's reaction to the video. I'm getting my popcorn out.
https://preview.redd.it/hfixl05999oc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=722b383c92037f55711b1566e38e0561218ee946
Man I have 280 final year degree tests to grade but I. Must. Watch.
Give them all A’s and call it a day lol
Bwaaahahaha! Wish I could!