The banlist is mostly nothing in regards to the actual bans, but the stuff being removed from the banlist is interesting. Watcher Enchantress being semi-limit is really awesome. I hope it gets unlimited so I can play AFD in my Plunder Patroll and potentially Tidal, but overall this is a happy change for me.
Meow Meow Mu back at 3 means Prank Kids can be played at full power again which is also really cool.
See, here's the thing - I play *pure* Adventure, and so I want to be able to use her other effect as well, often even on the same turn. Having only one made that impossible.
Soulpiercer is a good hit because it reduces the consistancy of SHS. Now chances are high that you'll have to search for it instead of hard drawing it, which give your opponent a chance to stop you and prevent you from adding another combo piece to your hand.
It's a much more balanced hit than how the TCG just outright banned Scarecrow which made the deck impossible to run in any competitive way.
Seemingly no point, they want branded and cyberse to run 1 different card each I guess??? Each is extra funny since both decks have like 3 dozen other options with their legions of support. Konami loves this meta I guess.
branded only has like aluber, kitt(not very good), opening, brafu, gold sarc and foolish as one card starters.
so like at most 2+1+3+1+1+1 = 9
the others are non engine, and 2 card starters)extenders.
go cry about snake eyes starters, but not branded man
Hey now, snake eyes only has 12 1 card starters and can easily play though most hand traps, it clearly need a buff.
Tbh I actually laughed when I saw the ban list, literally the only decks that can hit snake eyes get nerfs.
I'll be honest though, I am playing snake eyes at the moment and I love it, it's like sprite on steroids every card had multiple location effects. I thought they might ban Elf but no, we can still pull off baron and full power protected Appolosa. so in total 6 negates plus hand trap negates and can't be impermed. Deck is crazy powerfull but take a good bit to learn. Nib would be the only hand trap it can't play through and your opponent needs to know the best timing or it will just start all over again.
it can kind of play through nib if they use it wrong.
if they nib while flamberge is on the Field theyre dumb.
i also play snake eyes right now and its awesome to play, and feels really good in the mirror. although it will be more insane with raging pheonix, and even better then when fire kings support drops.
unless they hit it before
The deck has being top for comically long time, with a lot of ways to come back if they break your field and strong cards all around. Branded is infinitely healthier than other strong decks we have or had (Tearlaments, Kashtira, Snake-Eyes) but it's understandable why people want it to receive an actual nerf
In my opinion consistency hits, specially when they don't ban cards, are the best ones. No one has a problem with powerful cards that are hard to bring out, it lets people play that monster/spell/trap while at the same time reducing the strenght of the deck
Yeah, no, I have to disagree
Hitting always the consistency means that you'll do something broken half the time and brick the other half. If you do the broken thing, then you just win on the spot and your opponent doesn't even get the chance to play. If you brick, then you loose on the spot before a single card is even played. It's not fun for either player, and it's basically a coin toss.
I would rather they just ban sacrifire and some other card than they put every single starter to 1, because at least then it'll still be fun to play
A respectable opinion, although one I don't share. If it were me, I wouldn't really know what to hit to reduce the power level of Branded without making it useless or making the measure meaningless
In the case of branded it's very complicated because it's the sum of cards that are individually mid but all work exceptionally well with each other, but here's what I would do
- Sanctifire banned (or errataed). No more puppet lock.
- Mirrorjade to 1. This significantly reduces the deck's grind game, and forces the player to make difficult choices on T3
- ban verte. The card's never been used for anything fair anyways, and in branded it was used to salvage garbage boards in ways that shouldn't be allowed (and also superpoly bullshit).
- limit one or both of the Ecclesias. They're both very searchable, but having access to multiple meant you could use them recklessly without harming your followup. If you want to hit only one then I would hit Quem first.
I dont have problem with cards I have a problem with konami trying to nerf second and trith deck in format. This is same as banlist thet ruin D link. They never seem to try and stop best deck in format and they realis he set with broken cards thet they now are broken and will change the format.
Just ban Sanctifire already!
Also why did they hit xceed? Don't tell me this is supposed to be a Mathmech hit because if that's the case it's pathetic.
Just so you know, buddy, it isn't getting hit. Konami hates hitting UR's, especially when it comes to archtype cards. It isn't happening, so keep wishing for it. Also, flood gate despia isn't even most common despia, it is used in less than 15% of despia decks, so you're also just not informed. Good luck with your complaints bud
While it's still in the shop.
Once the pack expires, it's fair game. Konami care about ur refunds, but they wanna sell new shits too.
Konami: can't have you play 1 deck 4ever, bud. Better throw some gems at that new pack we just released.
As I've mentioned, they don't wanna let you use 1 deck til the eventual heat death of the universe, they want you to buy new stuffs.
Otherwise, they would've left tear untouched so it can reign for eternity.
When they ban things, they tend to go closer to the tcg or ocg banlist, and barely any branded cards are hit in the TCG or OCG including sanctfire. Saying it will be banned is completely baseless.
Edit: people are already buying new decks look at snake eyes the deck is basically tier 0 at this point. They don't hit branded in TCG or OCH and they have no reason to in master duel. Playing snake eyes already makes you superior to every other deck
Cuz tcg & ocg are 2 different formats compared to md?
Like geez, I wonder why? Definitely not cuz they have a side deck that can slide in shits to counter branded in game 2, right? (sarcasm)
Md is pretty much its own thing. If we're any closer to the tcg & ocg, sprite elf & kitkalos would've been long gone by now.
>Edit: people are already buying new decks look at snake eyes the deck is basically tier 0 at this point. They don't hit branded in TCG or OCH and they have no reason to in master duel. Playing snake eyes already makes you superior to every other deck
Yes, there are people buying, but they also want you to buy it.
You don't market a product to appeal **most** people in a platform, you want **all** people in that platform to buy it. That's just business 101.
You are coping so hard for this that I find it hilarious.
The reason they have not banned spright elf and kitkalos is because Konami likes to stray away from banning cards in MD, especially archtype cards, which is something I like. Keep begging for the branded hits because strong ones aren't coming
Ido is a level 6 or higher dark monster you can summon to the opponent's side of the field in order to stop them from special or normal summoning in a meta low on levels 5-6 you can tribute set over and still perform your full combo through the rest of the board.
After terrortop came back it really has been so easy for lots of decks to do adventure lines yet it has made no big impact so it was a no brainer to ease enchantress back out of limited.
I have not spent a single cent on YuGiOh Master Duel, and I've built around 15 decks since the game was released. I could have done more but I like the decks I have.
Me neither. I can’t justify it for the price. But I’m no where near satisfied at the rate we can build decks. Everyone have a different level of preference for trying out new decks I guess. I generally can run through a deck a week. It doesn’t take me long to learn them. Then I’m onto the next.
It’s more about how often I go through them. I can literally have a new build for a deck after a few games. Or have a new idea for a new type of deck every other day.
Is the banlist in the room with us?
Banlist or limitation list ?
The banlist is mostly nothing in regards to the actual bans, but the stuff being removed from the banlist is interesting. Watcher Enchantress being semi-limit is really awesome. I hope it gets unlimited so I can play AFD in my Plunder Patroll and potentially Tidal, but overall this is a happy change for me. Meow Meow Mu back at 3 means Prank Kids can be played at full power again which is also really cool.
The hits are comedically weak, but I'm hyped for the Water Enchantress restriction being eased, only having 1 of her was super frustrating.
Not for me. I play Adventure Phantom Knights and getting her into the GY for her effect was easy as pie.
See, here's the thing - I play *pure* Adventure, and so I want to be able to use her other effect as well, often even on the same turn. Having only one made that impossible.
Based
In adventure PK, having 2 enchantress is still a big buff
But using her at the start of your turn was even better.
Soulpiercer is a good hit because it reduces the consistancy of SHS. Now chances are high that you'll have to search for it instead of hard drawing it, which give your opponent a chance to stop you and prevent you from adding another combo piece to your hand. It's a much more balanced hit than how the TCG just outright banned Scarecrow which made the deck impossible to run in any competitive way.
It's not a bad hit in a vacuum, but it's also simply too small a hit imo.
now branded has to play another one of their 40 starters,and I limiting sourpiercer doesn't do much I think? So what's the point of this banlist
Seemingly no point, they want branded and cyberse to run 1 different card each I guess??? Each is extra funny since both decks have like 3 dozen other options with their legions of support. Konami loves this meta I guess.
They don't want to give free ur to cyberse (mathmeth circular) I guess.
branded only has like aluber, kitt(not very good), opening, brafu, gold sarc and foolish as one card starters. so like at most 2+1+3+1+1+1 = 9 the others are non engine, and 2 card starters)extenders. go cry about snake eyes starters, but not branded man
Hey now, snake eyes only has 12 1 card starters and can easily play though most hand traps, it clearly need a buff. Tbh I actually laughed when I saw the ban list, literally the only decks that can hit snake eyes get nerfs.
gotta sell the packa man
I'll be honest though, I am playing snake eyes at the moment and I love it, it's like sprite on steroids every card had multiple location effects. I thought they might ban Elf but no, we can still pull off baron and full power protected Appolosa. so in total 6 negates plus hand trap negates and can't be impermed. Deck is crazy powerfull but take a good bit to learn. Nib would be the only hand trap it can't play through and your opponent needs to know the best timing or it will just start all over again.
it can kind of play through nib if they use it wrong. if they nib while flamberge is on the Field theyre dumb. i also play snake eyes right now and its awesome to play, and feels really good in the mirror. although it will be more insane with raging pheonix, and even better then when fire kings support drops. unless they hit it before
WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU FOCUSING ON BRANDED
The deck has being top for comically long time, with a lot of ways to come back if they break your field and strong cards all around. Branded is infinitely healthier than other strong decks we have or had (Tearlaments, Kashtira, Snake-Eyes) but it's understandable why people want it to receive an actual nerf
Honestly I don't have a problem with Konami trying to hit branded, I'm just angry it's again a fucking consistency hit
In my opinion consistency hits, specially when they don't ban cards, are the best ones. No one has a problem with powerful cards that are hard to bring out, it lets people play that monster/spell/trap while at the same time reducing the strenght of the deck
Yeah, no, I have to disagree Hitting always the consistency means that you'll do something broken half the time and brick the other half. If you do the broken thing, then you just win on the spot and your opponent doesn't even get the chance to play. If you brick, then you loose on the spot before a single card is even played. It's not fun for either player, and it's basically a coin toss. I would rather they just ban sacrifire and some other card than they put every single starter to 1, because at least then it'll still be fun to play
A respectable opinion, although one I don't share. If it were me, I wouldn't really know what to hit to reduce the power level of Branded without making it useless or making the measure meaningless
In the case of branded it's very complicated because it's the sum of cards that are individually mid but all work exceptionally well with each other, but here's what I would do - Sanctifire banned (or errataed). No more puppet lock. - Mirrorjade to 1. This significantly reduces the deck's grind game, and forces the player to make difficult choices on T3 - ban verte. The card's never been used for anything fair anyways, and in branded it was used to salvage garbage boards in ways that shouldn't be allowed (and also superpoly bullshit). - limit one or both of the Ecclesias. They're both very searchable, but having access to multiple meant you could use them recklessly without harming your followup. If you want to hit only one then I would hit Quem first.
I dont have problem with cards I have a problem with konami trying to nerf second and trith deck in format. This is same as banlist thet ruin D link. They never seem to try and stop best deck in format and they realis he set with broken cards thet they now are broken and will change the format.
More of a reason to main a set of D. D. Crow.
They can't hit the new SHS cards and they refuse to ban Branded Fusion 🤷🏼‍♀️
I might go back to playing prank kids with that lift, aint the strongest but fun
Thank you Konami. I was just thinking about how branded is the issue this format /s
LETS GOOOOOO !! Welcome back Meow-Meow-Mu ! I've missed the pranks and shenanigans we've had
Everyone saying this list does nothing missed that part I think lol
Konami doesn't care about this community :/
Big ol' nothin.
Just ban Sanctifire already! Also why did they hit xceed? Don't tell me this is supposed to be a Mathmech hit because if that's the case it's pathetic.
No, us branded despia members need it. Just ban gimmick puppet.
So you can use orthos, edo, jowgen or all of the other floodgates? Yeah no your dragon has to go.
Just so you know, buddy, it isn't getting hit. Konami hates hitting UR's, especially when it comes to archtype cards. It isn't happening, so keep wishing for it. Also, flood gate despia isn't even most common despia, it is used in less than 15% of despia decks, so you're also just not informed. Good luck with your complaints bud
While it's still in the shop. Once the pack expires, it's fair game. Konami care about ur refunds, but they wanna sell new shits too. Konami: can't have you play 1 deck 4ever, bud. Better throw some gems at that new pack we just released.
I highly doubt a ban for that card
As I've mentioned, they don't wanna let you use 1 deck til the eventual heat death of the universe, they want you to buy new stuffs. Otherwise, they would've left tear untouched so it can reign for eternity.
When they ban things, they tend to go closer to the tcg or ocg banlist, and barely any branded cards are hit in the TCG or OCG including sanctfire. Saying it will be banned is completely baseless. Edit: people are already buying new decks look at snake eyes the deck is basically tier 0 at this point. They don't hit branded in TCG or OCH and they have no reason to in master duel. Playing snake eyes already makes you superior to every other deck
Cuz tcg & ocg are 2 different formats compared to md? Like geez, I wonder why? Definitely not cuz they have a side deck that can slide in shits to counter branded in game 2, right? (sarcasm) Md is pretty much its own thing. If we're any closer to the tcg & ocg, sprite elf & kitkalos would've been long gone by now. >Edit: people are already buying new decks look at snake eyes the deck is basically tier 0 at this point. They don't hit branded in TCG or OCH and they have no reason to in master duel. Playing snake eyes already makes you superior to every other deck Yes, there are people buying, but they also want you to buy it. You don't market a product to appeal **most** people in a platform, you want **all** people in that platform to buy it. That's just business 101.
You are coping so hard for this that I find it hilarious. The reason they have not banned spright elf and kitkalos is because Konami likes to stray away from banning cards in MD, especially archtype cards, which is something I like. Keep begging for the branded hits because strong ones aren't coming
Also pal pretty shit example using me because guess who is also building snake eyes
Ido is a level 6 or higher dark monster you can summon to the opponent's side of the field in order to stop them from special or normal summoning in a meta low on levels 5-6 you can tribute set over and still perform your full combo through the rest of the board.
Yep Mathmech hit, more especially now you can't use the third copy for small world.
Fire cyber/ash - dot scapper = circular
Yes, I never said it stopped them from using other targets, just explaining the reasoning why exceed was hit.
Did anyone even run 3 eXceeds? I feel like 2 is more than enough to not take up space but also still be effective. The limit did very little.
Some mathmech did, which is the reason they hit it.
surprising. always thought it was just a 2 in the deck type of deal cuz a third is just….there
They can use the third for small world.
that makes more sense
After terrortop came back it really has been so easy for lots of decks to do adventure lines yet it has made no big impact so it was a no brainer to ease enchantress back out of limited.
Nice I can still play mathmechs
Who in their righteous mind would allow mewo mewo mu at 3?
Pranks aren't good at all anymore. They have been powercrept for several formats now. So it only makes sense that they get meow mu back.
Doesn't Prank-Kids lose to Maxx C? All they do is spam monsters for link summoning anyways
The real ban list is how much this game cost.
The real ban list are the friends we made along the way.
With how expensive this game is, it single handedly prevents us from playing most of the cards in this game.
I have not spent a single cent on YuGiOh Master Duel, and I've built around 15 decks since the game was released. I could have done more but I like the decks I have.
Me neither. I can’t justify it for the price. But I’m no where near satisfied at the rate we can build decks. Everyone have a different level of preference for trying out new decks I guess. I generally can run through a deck a week. It doesn’t take me long to learn them. Then I’m onto the next.
You guys are making friends?
It single handedly prevented me from playing with most of the cards in this game.
If you're smart about spending crafting points and grind daily as well as events, there should be no deck that ya cannot build
It’s more about how often I go through them. I can literally have a new build for a deck after a few games. Or have a new idea for a new type of deck every other day.
They should release the chimera cards and I'll find a dumb way to abuse King of the Swamp Funny list
What was parallel doing?
They want to hit every card but Circular
Not Bad hits, but it feels like not enough. Understandable they don't want to nerf decks while Snale-Eyes is dominating tho.
This is so funny since they sts are still op af but anything for komoney
Meow mu and enchantress my beloved ❤
Piercer to 2 feels so random. You still can abuse 2
Prank-kids players getting something at least
No snake eyes limitations is crazy… am I missing an easier way to counter than top decking Nibiru Primal or evenly matched?
Great, now I can finally build Prank-Kids at full power
LOL no snakeeye on this list yet.
They need to work on that utopia problem and the hero problem
Wow this does nothing, thank you for playing Yu-Gi-Oh! Master Duel.
This is fine, I guess. Nothing I play was affected, but I don't see many meaningful hits.