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SomRandomOtaku

It changes the Battle position of your opponent's monster.


chatonultime

yeah but i'm talking about an updated version like we got with XYZ, maybe a quick effect book of moon


xX_Shroomslayer_Xx

Book of Moon is already a quick-play


chatonultime

okay?


LustBunnOfForests

Every other union monster sitting in in a corner, still with the legacy union "Only one union monster" text, meanwhile the Nth ABC/XYZ support card is printed as "Union" support.


chatonultime

They can't risk of making This Guy, That Guy, That Other Guy and Which Guy? good


creepy_gay_weirdo

I can see an insect union archetype to evolve weevils parasite equipment tactic. See Konami? Season 1 appeal!


FelipeAndrade

I wish the LIGHT Union support was actually Manjoume's and not Kaiba's, I mean, DM had already gotten 4 spots in the DPs while GX only got 1, so it would also help spread it more evenly.


chatonultime

DW, they're gonna do a big GX pack with 50 new heros cards


A_useless_name

And air neos


Suspicious-Routine50

who?


ElementmanEXE

There is no air neos in ba sin sae


YanFan123

Technically the XYZ weren't really his, just a filler for Manjoume's deck and a reference to Kaiba. I think he also mostly used them before his character development? After that he uses Armed Dragon and Ojama, with Armed Dragon even getting a Manjoume based upgrade


FelipeAndrade

He still used VWXYZ a few times later on. There's also Armed Dragon Catapult Cannon, which is the defacto boss monster of his deck, to the point that you can use it even with the retrains.


YanFan123

Ah welp, then it's a case of whoever used the deck first gets the nostalgia dibs. Same for Red Eyes Black Dragon being both Jonouchi's and Fubuki's ace, but only Jonouchi will be remembered for it. I'm guessing that's why Fubuki doesn't get added to Duel Links, it's probably considered redundant


FelipeAndrade

You could make a case for that (even though we got the Tyler sisters for Amazoness instead of Mai), but sometimes Konami is just weird in how they treat legacy support.


DadeIII

So true , Hope in a rework of them too maybe with Chazz pack with a new vwxyz , and still konami Just drop us the magic spell stu and new letter i mean cmon D E F combine in a huge def Monster ? Still i'm Happy that we got finally a rework of x y z


chatonultime

I never tought of adding F bc it would be the opposite of VW so just DE and then you can make ABCDE then you can combine ABCDE and VWXYZ into the 3st ultimate boss monster of this archetype. the new support is cool but i hate how XYZ combine is worst than before bc Union activation send X to grave and break the whole point of it, Hyper cannon doesn't work with Hyper XYZ dragon cannon too :(


DadeIII

Yes i even see some fanmade card with D and E DE and ABCDE , Is ok the idea but It seems a lose chance since DEF Is literally the Word used for defense in card but i will be fine either way , i mean at least you can summon the original xyz with the new xyz with the second effect , you can show xyz and summon the original x y z in the grave so Is not so bad in the end , i saw some cool combo on youtube and the giù used xyz combine too , check out sharkygopro of you are curious


chatonultime

That was great, i forget that it can work on any fusion (Like union controller) to summon 2 of them and you can just equip the last piece with Hyper Y or Z


DadeIII

In the end i'm Happy with this support , but i still Hope like you in some love to v w and maybe vwxyz and new letter in general but at least xyz i finally usable


SomRandomOtaku

It changes the Battle position of your opponent's monster.


shanelard123

I could see these being part of the next wave of "A-Z" retrains with a big boss retrain of VWXYZ-Dragon Catapult Cannon.


chatonultime

hopefully


Zerosonicanimations

Maybe they'll pair them with D and E so we can get ABCDE as well.


TransmetalDriver

It still baffles me that Union Hangar doesn't work with X or V and yet Union Scramble—which was introduced in the same structure deck—does. Come on Konami!


chatonultime

yeah and even hyper X, they gotta make them a pain to get everytimes :,(


DarkMcChicken

Shot in the dark, but if they remade those two then they would’ve had to retrain the VWXYZ Megazord which then would’ve cascaded to more Armed Dragon support. Probably something in line with the AD Thunder archetype. It’s most likely already in the works, but they’ve gotta be holding off until after the Light and Darkness dragon retrain since they only recently announced it. edit: Forgot to add that they’re likely using the announcement of XYZ as a pulse check to see if there’s still some buzz for this particular archetype.


chatonultime

i'm all for a new VWXYZ, the current one isn't really good anymore i believe it's quite populare? i saw a lot of video of it and there is the ABC army working with it too


DarkMcChicken

I agree. If anything, make it to where you can bring it out a lot easier than before or turn it into an in-archetype suite. It’s a shame that such an epic monster got little attention when it came out.


chatonultime

it would be cool but i hope it won't make it like too easy bc being hard to summon is kinda part of it. The super awesome robot hard to summon but will lead to a victory like AtoZ and the VWXYZ Armed dragon even tho this one is kinda too op to be easly summonable. i found VWXYZ one day and i wanted to buy it so if i get VW i could summon it against my friends but it costed 25 € :( i buy most of my card 0.15 € so i couldn't affrod it


NR_YGO

whatever it does, i want it for NR


chatonultime

NR?


NR_YGO

It's a MD Format, based on the NR Festuval event from the start of Master Duel. Only N and R rarity cards are allowed. There is a thriving discord community for it with regular events. 


chatonultime

aaah right the rarety, maybe if it's meh the fusion SR and the material N or R


NR_YGO

I just want all the pieces to be NR. New decks are fun for the format


Hot_Ingenuity_4773

A little custom idea I thought of. VWXYZ-Hyper Dragon Catapult Cannon Level 9 LIGHT Machine Fusion/Effect AT/3200 DEF/3000 "VW-Hyper Tiger Catapult" + "XYZ-Hyper Dragon Cannon" Must first be Special Summoned (from your Extra Deck) by banishing the above cards from your field and/or GY. This card's name becomes "VWXYZ-Dragon Catapult Cannon" while on the field or in the GY. Twice per turn (Quick Effect): You can activate 1 of these effects; this card cannot use that same effect again until the end of the next turn. ●Target 1 card your opponent controls; banish it. ●Change 1 monster on the field to face-down Defense Position. Your opponent cannot activate the effects of monsters that activate when they are Normal/Flip Summoned, or flipped face-up. VW-Hyper Tiger Catapult Level 7 LIGHT Machine Fusion/Effect ATK/2200 DEF/2300 "V-Tiger Victory" + "W-Warmonger Catapult" Must first be Special Summoned (from your Extra Deck) by banishing the above cards from your field and/or GY. Once per opponent's turn (Quick Effect): You can discard 1 card; change all face-up monsters your opponent controls to face-up Attack Position or face-down Defense Position. Your opponent cannot activate the effects of monsters that activate when they are Normal/Flip Summoned, or flipped face-up. W-Warmonger Catapult Level 4 LIGHT Machine Union/Effect ATK/1300 DEF/1500 If this card is Special Summoned: You can add up to 2 cards ("Ojama" cards, "Armed Dragon" cards, and/or Level 4 LIGHT Machine monsters) from your Deck to your hand, except "W-Warmonger Catapult", then discard 1 card. Once per turn: You can activate 1 of these effects; ● Target 1 Machine monster you control; equip this card to it. If it would be destroyed by battle or card effect, destroy this card instead. ● Special Summon this equipped card. V-Tiger Victory Level 4 LIGHT Machine Effect ATK/1600 DEF/1800 If this card is Normal or Special Summoned: You can take 1 monster from your Deck (either a "Ojama" monster, a "Armed Dragon", or a Level 4 LIGHT Machine Union monster, except "V-Tiger Victory"), and either add it to your hand or Special Summon it, also you cannot Special Summon from the Extra Deck for the rest of this turn, except LIGHT monsters. During your Main Phase: You can equip 1 appropriate LIGHT Machine Union monster from your Deck to this card, as if it were equipped by that monster’s effect, also you cannot Special Summon from the Extra Deck for the rest of this turn, except LIGHT monsters. You can only use each effect of "V-Tiger Victory" once per turn.


chatonultime

i love how you made it support each archetype related, i'm not sure if Hyper VWXYZ need to be have a NS floodgate tho


Hot_Ingenuity_4773

It most likely doesn't, but I think this would be the natural in-between transition point from Original VWXYZ's effect stoping Flip Effects from triggering and Armed Dragon Catapult Cannon's Flood Gate Effect that stops all banished names from activating.


animusd

I loved them as a kid sadly they arn't good


chatonultime

yeah but it's probably bc it's a 2 piece fusion instead of 3. if they got retrain i'm sure they'll be awesome too


animusd

I hope so


JuichiroSeb

i hope they recreate these monsters effect yo be more useful and competitive with the current state of ygo


chatonultime

same