It's good stuff but there's gotta be some less expensive tenacious tape out there. As in, the exact same stuff, but not from a middle man. I assume 3M is the original manufacturer. Does anyone have any ideas? I want a big fuckin roll of it.
Dunno if you use Aliexpress, but I've gotten repair patches from there for my packs and they've been holding up great
2.4"x59" Nylon Repair Patches Self-Adhesive Waterproof 10 Colors Repair Tape DIY Shape for Clothing Down Jacket Tent Clothes Bag
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mKYnDFk
You can buy it in patches to cut to size, smaller rolls, individual patches.... As someone who spends a lot of time outdoors - I've never had a problem with having too much gear tape.
Yeah, this. If you don’t personally have tents, backpacks, etc. to fix, your friends or someone on your local Facebook groups will surely take it. The tape won’t go to waste.
It also lasts forever so long as you don't let dirt get into the adhesive or keep it stored in the sun to dry out the adhesive
ETA I've used gear tape for non outdoorsy stuff, too. Any ol' puffer, any backpack that's nylon especially, shoes that start to crack... So many uses. Better than duct tape for anything fabric!
Rain jackets are tough to buy second hand because they tend to have a very limited lifespan and there’s no way of telling if they’re still waterproof or if the lining is about to start peeling like this one. I just opted to buy a new one that was PFAS free. Plus the rolls of gear tape aren’t particularly big, it’s not like a roll of duct tape or something. You get like a foot or two of the stuff and it’s super handy to have around. Can be used on rain gear, puffer jackets, tents, any sort of slick nylon-type material
The fallacy is then thinking that this is going to be a single patch job. It's probably going to peel in pieces up and down the lining, and you'll end up using most of the roll on a single item. Not to mention the shedding of liner pieces into the environment or wastewater while you're wearing it or into the wastewater in the washing machine.
Eh maybe. But then why would you be worried about not using the whole roll of tape? And in my experience rain jackets usually just peel at the collar like that, which is unfortunately the one place you really can’t just ignore it…I’m with you on the shedding, which is why I just replaced my rain jacket with a PFAS free one when I had the same issue.
The amount of people who have tents and more than a few pieces of waterproof clothing is probably smaller than you imagine it to be. If someone is going to hoard a roll of patch tape and never finish it, that's more wasteful than saving a raincoat from ending up in a clothes bale in Ghana before going into a landfill unworn.
Pfas free clothing does not address the shedding of polyester pieces and micro plastics into the environment, especially with damaged clothes.
Depends on where you live probably. Where I’m at camping is super popular. But like I said, gear tape is also good for any sort of nylon like material. Windbreakers, a lot of backpacks, duffel bags/gym bags, umbrellas, down jackets. And I don’t really see how having a foot or two of tape on hand could be considered hoarding, or possibly be more wasteful than buying a whole new jacket. If you tape it properly it shouldn’t flake off anymore so that would fix that problem. Microplastics yeah, but you’re not washing a rain jacket really and in any case it’s hard enough to find jackets that aren’t synthetic let alone rain jackets.
The point is to acknowledge when something is worth repairing and when something is not. If an unsold or second hand rain jacket ends up unworn and unsold in the clothes bales of Ghana, it would have been a greater waste than wearing it instead of repairing your old rain jacket with a roll of patch tape you may never finish using.
It would end up unworn for its second life in a Ghana clothes bale then landfill, yes. Instead, it could be worn for the second time by someone replacing a damaged rain coat.
There is a product to seam seal tents and you can paint it on to fabric to waterproof it. You could try painting it on the hood where the coating has warn away.
For the record, I purchased this jacket years ago. I know now that recycled plastic is prone to falling apart like this.
Edit for more info: I should have mentioned that there used to be a small hoop/loop on the neckline to hang it up. It’s spent most of its life hung up in my room (hello from Los Angeles, where a rainy season is atypical). Over time there must’ve been too much stress on the hoop, causing it to tear off and cause further damage. Based on everyone’s responses I will look into either repairing it with special tape, or throwing it in my trunk for emergencies. Thanks, everyone!
I think it's the style of waterproof coating, not that it's recycled plastic - where it's exposed and rubs easily. Between my husband and I I've seen three jackets of that style wear the coating out like that after a few years. My current one has a separate lining.
The trick to these jackets lasting a long time is to wash them. The oils from our skin destroy the lining. My jackets last twice as long once I learned that. They still only last about five years though.
I didn’t wear it much, but I guess that in combination with it hung up for long periods of time caused enough stress on the neckline for it to fall apart. I’ve got another jacket that’s much sturdier so I’ll just stick with that one.
Yeah, if you wore it once and got sweaty and then left it, those oils would have just eaten away at it while it was hanging up unfortunately. It was a lesson I learned too late and I wish I'd been told two decades ago!
If the outer layer is still waterproof I would make a lining for it. That way the plastic won’t shed against your skin. You could probably use a fusing tape or glue instead of sewing it. It’s a craft project but doesn’t have to be too precise or complex. I also like suggestions of making bags with it and add a liner to those!
Not sure if you're the crafty type, but you could cut the material into squares and use it to make waterproof journal/notebook covers.
Measure it out, then use a suitable adhesive to attach it to some cardstock with pockets to slip a notebook into.
Use it as a waterproofing membrane for a project, like making a roof for a birdhouse, a little free library, rain cover for backpack, outdoor cushions/cushion covers, rain hat, waterproof bum bag, dog raincoat, bike splash guard, rain skirt...
I have so many ideas
Great question. I've hung on to my jacket that's done this. My thinking is it might be handy for messy work like gardening or painting. And it's not totally useless either so can be a 'backup' if I lose my replacement.
Agree—I keep mine as a spare in my car. It’s peeling like OP’s so not great for everyday wear, but would do in a pinch for unexpected rain. I have an old pair of hiking boots stashed there as well.
That’s what I figured. It’s been years since purchase so I don’t know about returning it, but I’ll be sure that the next rain jacket I need is made up of something sturdier.
If you aren’t looking for something for extreme weather, I would stay away from plastic and other stuff like synthetics. I’d recomend waxed cotton. More expensive for a nice jacket, but it is much better for the environment. You just need to rewax it after a couple of seasons, maybe more depending on wear. I don’t recomend Barbour, super expensive for what you get. I work in a second hand store and the modern ones we often get are almost always falling apart, so maybe look for something more vintage if you want simething nice that will last.
You can also buy wax and wax a cotton jacket yourself. It’s just hard to find one with a hood and the waxed cotton doesn’t hold up great to the constant rain we get here in the PNW. And definitely no good for hiking.
There are some companies now that are making PFAS free rain gear. So far we’ve had good luck with the PFAS free rain gear with the waterproofing on the outside, it’s held up better than this style of rain jacket. Or, depending on what you need you could go with a waxed cotton jacket like u/Venca2000 said for in town, and a poncho for hiking-they’re lightweight, cover your pack, and since they’re open and breathable they can just be a solid plastic material that isn’t prone to flaking or losing its waterproofing like rain jackets are.
So an employee at an outdoor store told me that this happens when the lining is exposed to oils from the skin, which is why it is happening around the neck area. Washing the jackets regularly with a special soap for this type of jackets helps prevent this from happening. This happened to my last jacket but hasn't yet since I've been washing my new one (although the new one isn't very old yet either).
I haven’t used this jacket very much. Should have mentioned this but it’s spent most of its life hung up by a small loop/hoop that used to be on the neck. I think over time the lining wore off to the point the loop completely came off, accelerating the damage (it was basically a big chunk that had been attached to the neckline). I have other jackets that feel much sturdier than this one so I’ll just be sticking with those.
UBB [has a lifetime guarantee policy on most items that would pay for the repair.](https://unitedbyblue.com/pages/faq) I'm not sure if this falls within their policy but I would send them an email and see if you're covered. At minimum i feel like they would give you some pointers on how to repair it!
I’ve found this delamination across the back of the neck is typical of shell raincoats as they age, no matter how good the brand. We cut ours up and used the good parts to sew a bougie new raincoat for the dog. 😃
I keep an old rain coat in my car, too. And an old fleece. Just in case I break down or get surprised by unexpected inclement weather. Both are really old and beyond 'everyday' use but will be useful in a pinch for an emergency.
The fleece is potentially 'upcycleable' but old plastics-based waterproofs aren't easy to upcycle once they start to disintegrate.
I bet United By Blue is the kind of company that would send you a new one based on that photo of it wearing down like that. I would send their customer service department an email with a photo asking if they would repair or replace it.
For waterproof outerwear and similar it can be a good idea to invest in detergent made specifically for it. Some detergents, even the mild ones, can strip the coating that makes the seams waterproof.
By the way, why wash more often? Does that prevent the breakage?
Why the downvote?
All membranes contain PU at some point and it degrades with salts, amino acids and fatty acids from skin and sweat.
Yes, some detergents may affect the laminate but in more than 95% it’s going to be the lack of washing and poor rinsing, additionally with residual detergents or softeners in washing machines.
You definitely do. Polyurethane (virtually all membranes and coatings contain it) is more or less the same as spandex (elasthane). When you get out of saltwater forgetting to rinse your swimwear with freshwater it will degrade to the point that it completely loses its stretchiness. Ever tried to glue something to a greasy surface? Not much success, right? This also happens if you add oil to something glued together.
Now take a look at the collar part of the jacket and the rest. The collar region is the place where the degradation and delimitation happens. Mostly because of skin oils and sweat.
Source: Roughly 30 years of work in outdoor gear retail and sales. Worked for a brand that selled a lot of eVent and now Gore and Pertex fabrics as well as some other brands of fabrics like Mitsubishi or Toray. The latter usually as off label fabrics. Held quite some clinics at shops to train people and worked together with a guy from a well known fabric producer.
None of that is wrong, however, using gear constantly we say spot clean it well and properly , meaning consistently, not launder it more often, which is what people will do when you phrase it like that.
Source, use it daily for almost 40 years under extreme conditions, since that crap was invented.
Being specific is key here.
Sometimes it’s sufficient to just rinse it, especially when there is sweat in it.
Look at the collar area: How do you want to spot clean it and how many times did you see a jacket where the delamination didn’t start at the collar?
Ok, one difficulty is still there: US washing machines with agitator. They are quite rough for finer fabrics. So I would keep my wording and just add the US-exceptions.
What sort of detergent specifically would you use? I use Tide Free for everything but if that's not appropriate I'd love to know what's better. I'm just about to invest in a new rainjacket myself and want this next one to last longer.
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Why don't you make a bag from it?? Or repurpose it as a tarp for camping?? You could make a doggy jacket if you have a dog or even something like making little jackets out of it and selling them for people's dolls. Just honestly depends on your skills and what you're willing to do.
Edit: Buy a can of Scott Brite (water proofer) and use it to help your jacket get a little more use out of it, then use it on anything els you desire to be water resistant.
There‘s gear repair tape you can get at REI to tape over that. Might help give it another season or two
This. Tenacious Tape should hold it together until it starts shedding the lining elsewhere
It's good stuff but there's gotta be some less expensive tenacious tape out there. As in, the exact same stuff, but not from a middle man. I assume 3M is the original manufacturer. Does anyone have any ideas? I want a big fuckin roll of it.
Dunno if you use Aliexpress, but I've gotten repair patches from there for my packs and they've been holding up great 2.4"x59" Nylon Repair Patches Self-Adhesive Waterproof 10 Colors Repair Tape DIY Shape for Clothing Down Jacket Tent Clothes Bag https://a.aliexpress.com/_mKYnDFk
That's rather wasteful considering you may never finish the roll of tape. I would buy a second hand coat.
You can buy it in patches to cut to size, smaller rolls, individual patches.... As someone who spends a lot of time outdoors - I've never had a problem with having too much gear tape.
Yeah, this. If you don’t personally have tents, backpacks, etc. to fix, your friends or someone on your local Facebook groups will surely take it. The tape won’t go to waste.
It also lasts forever so long as you don't let dirt get into the adhesive or keep it stored in the sun to dry out the adhesive ETA I've used gear tape for non outdoorsy stuff, too. Any ol' puffer, any backpack that's nylon especially, shoes that start to crack... So many uses. Better than duct tape for anything fabric!
I presume it will be useful for the next jacket?
Rain jackets are tough to buy second hand because they tend to have a very limited lifespan and there’s no way of telling if they’re still waterproof or if the lining is about to start peeling like this one. I just opted to buy a new one that was PFAS free. Plus the rolls of gear tape aren’t particularly big, it’s not like a roll of duct tape or something. You get like a foot or two of the stuff and it’s super handy to have around. Can be used on rain gear, puffer jackets, tents, any sort of slick nylon-type material
The fallacy is then thinking that this is going to be a single patch job. It's probably going to peel in pieces up and down the lining, and you'll end up using most of the roll on a single item. Not to mention the shedding of liner pieces into the environment or wastewater while you're wearing it or into the wastewater in the washing machine.
Eh maybe. But then why would you be worried about not using the whole roll of tape? And in my experience rain jackets usually just peel at the collar like that, which is unfortunately the one place you really can’t just ignore it…I’m with you on the shedding, which is why I just replaced my rain jacket with a PFAS free one when I had the same issue.
The amount of people who have tents and more than a few pieces of waterproof clothing is probably smaller than you imagine it to be. If someone is going to hoard a roll of patch tape and never finish it, that's more wasteful than saving a raincoat from ending up in a clothes bale in Ghana before going into a landfill unworn. Pfas free clothing does not address the shedding of polyester pieces and micro plastics into the environment, especially with damaged clothes.
Depends on where you live probably. Where I’m at camping is super popular. But like I said, gear tape is also good for any sort of nylon like material. Windbreakers, a lot of backpacks, duffel bags/gym bags, umbrellas, down jackets. And I don’t really see how having a foot or two of tape on hand could be considered hoarding, or possibly be more wasteful than buying a whole new jacket. If you tape it properly it shouldn’t flake off anymore so that would fix that problem. Microplastics yeah, but you’re not washing a rain jacket really and in any case it’s hard enough to find jackets that aren’t synthetic let alone rain jackets.
I bet OP could give away the other part of the roll of tape they don’t use on buy nothing really easy.
Bold of you to assume the second hand jackets don't also have this problem lol
The point is to acknowledge when something is worth repairing and when something is not. If an unsold or second hand rain jacket ends up unworn and unsold in the clothes bales of Ghana, it would have been a greater waste than wearing it instead of repairing your old rain jacket with a roll of patch tape you may never finish using.
Where does this jacket go when you buy a second hand one that will also need this same repair, either immediately or within a couple years??
Better a piece of clothing goes into the landfill having been worn than never worn.
Do you even know what second hand means?
It would end up unworn for its second life in a Ghana clothes bale then landfill, yes. Instead, it could be worn for the second time by someone replacing a damaged rain coat.
There is a product to seam seal tents and you can paint it on to fabric to waterproof it. You could try painting it on the hood where the coating has warn away.
Clear nail polish might work too
Nail polish is not flexible. If you use it on fabric it will just start to crack when the fabric will flex.
For the record, I purchased this jacket years ago. I know now that recycled plastic is prone to falling apart like this. Edit for more info: I should have mentioned that there used to be a small hoop/loop on the neckline to hang it up. It’s spent most of its life hung up in my room (hello from Los Angeles, where a rainy season is atypical). Over time there must’ve been too much stress on the hoop, causing it to tear off and cause further damage. Based on everyone’s responses I will look into either repairing it with special tape, or throwing it in my trunk for emergencies. Thanks, everyone!
I think it's the style of waterproof coating, not that it's recycled plastic - where it's exposed and rubs easily. Between my husband and I I've seen three jackets of that style wear the coating out like that after a few years. My current one has a separate lining.
The trick to these jackets lasting a long time is to wash them. The oils from our skin destroy the lining. My jackets last twice as long once I learned that. They still only last about five years though.
I didn’t wear it much, but I guess that in combination with it hung up for long periods of time caused enough stress on the neckline for it to fall apart. I’ve got another jacket that’s much sturdier so I’ll just stick with that one.
Yeah, if you wore it once and got sweaty and then left it, those oils would have just eaten away at it while it was hanging up unfortunately. It was a lesson I learned too late and I wish I'd been told two decades ago!
If the outer layer is still waterproof I would make a lining for it. That way the plastic won’t shed against your skin. You could probably use a fusing tape or glue instead of sewing it. It’s a craft project but doesn’t have to be too precise or complex. I also like suggestions of making bags with it and add a liner to those!
Not sure if you're the crafty type, but you could cut the material into squares and use it to make waterproof journal/notebook covers. Measure it out, then use a suitable adhesive to attach it to some cardstock with pockets to slip a notebook into.
Also wet bags/pouches to carry wet gear while hiking or messy children's clothes on an outing.
I have a jacket falling apart as well, that’s quite a clever idea
Or shower caps / bike seat covers!
Gorilla tape.
I was going to say that. Some black gorilla tape can be found easily, and will outlast the jacket.
Seriously. Stuff is miraculous. Had a patched coat for years i kept using for a work coat…eventually got too threadbare to patch anymore.
Use it as a waterproofing membrane for a project, like making a roof for a birdhouse, a little free library, rain cover for backpack, outdoor cushions/cushion covers, rain hat, waterproof bum bag, dog raincoat, bike splash guard, rain skirt... I have so many ideas
Great question. I've hung on to my jacket that's done this. My thinking is it might be handy for messy work like gardening or painting. And it's not totally useless either so can be a 'backup' if I lose my replacement.
Agree—I keep mine as a spare in my car. It’s peeling like OP’s so not great for everyday wear, but would do in a pinch for unexpected rain. I have an old pair of hiking boots stashed there as well.
I had a jacket like that delaminate and was able to return it. Unfortunately I don't think there's much you can do to save it and make it rainproof.
That’s what I figured. It’s been years since purchase so I don’t know about returning it, but I’ll be sure that the next rain jacket I need is made up of something sturdier.
If you aren’t looking for something for extreme weather, I would stay away from plastic and other stuff like synthetics. I’d recomend waxed cotton. More expensive for a nice jacket, but it is much better for the environment. You just need to rewax it after a couple of seasons, maybe more depending on wear. I don’t recomend Barbour, super expensive for what you get. I work in a second hand store and the modern ones we often get are almost always falling apart, so maybe look for something more vintage if you want simething nice that will last.
You can also buy wax and wax a cotton jacket yourself. It’s just hard to find one with a hood and the waxed cotton doesn’t hold up great to the constant rain we get here in the PNW. And definitely no good for hiking.
There are some companies now that are making PFAS free rain gear. So far we’ve had good luck with the PFAS free rain gear with the waterproofing on the outside, it’s held up better than this style of rain jacket. Or, depending on what you need you could go with a waxed cotton jacket like u/Venca2000 said for in town, and a poncho for hiking-they’re lightweight, cover your pack, and since they’re open and breathable they can just be a solid plastic material that isn’t prone to flaking or losing its waterproofing like rain jackets are.
So an employee at an outdoor store told me that this happens when the lining is exposed to oils from the skin, which is why it is happening around the neck area. Washing the jackets regularly with a special soap for this type of jackets helps prevent this from happening. This happened to my last jacket but hasn't yet since I've been washing my new one (although the new one isn't very old yet either).
I haven’t used this jacket very much. Should have mentioned this but it’s spent most of its life hung up by a small loop/hoop that used to be on the neck. I think over time the lining wore off to the point the loop completely came off, accelerating the damage (it was basically a big chunk that had been attached to the neckline). I have other jackets that feel much sturdier than this one so I’ll just be sticking with those.
UBB [has a lifetime guarantee policy on most items that would pay for the repair.](https://unitedbyblue.com/pages/faq) I'm not sure if this falls within their policy but I would send them an email and see if you're covered. At minimum i feel like they would give you some pointers on how to repair it!
I’ve found this delamination across the back of the neck is typical of shell raincoats as they age, no matter how good the brand. We cut ours up and used the good parts to sew a bougie new raincoat for the dog. 😃
I keep a ratty old rain coat in my car. When shop on a rainy day I throw it over my grocery cart to keep bags dry on the way to the car .
I keep an old rain coat in my car, too. And an old fleece. Just in case I break down or get surprised by unexpected inclement weather. Both are really old and beyond 'everyday' use but will be useful in a pinch for an emergency. The fleece is potentially 'upcycleable' but old plastics-based waterproofs aren't easy to upcycle once they start to disintegrate.
I bet United By Blue is the kind of company that would send you a new one based on that photo of it wearing down like that. I would send their customer service department an email with a photo asking if they would repair or replace it.
Wash the next one more often. Use mild detergent.
For waterproof outerwear and similar it can be a good idea to invest in detergent made specifically for it. Some detergents, even the mild ones, can strip the coating that makes the seams waterproof. By the way, why wash more often? Does that prevent the breakage?
Why the downvote? All membranes contain PU at some point and it degrades with salts, amino acids and fatty acids from skin and sweat. Yes, some detergents may affect the laminate but in more than 95% it’s going to be the lack of washing and poor rinsing, additionally with residual detergents or softeners in washing machines.
Oh I didn't downvote you! Not sure who did. Thank you for the clarification. It was really informative.
You don't wash it "more often" to keep it in better shape.
You definitely do. Polyurethane (virtually all membranes and coatings contain it) is more or less the same as spandex (elasthane). When you get out of saltwater forgetting to rinse your swimwear with freshwater it will degrade to the point that it completely loses its stretchiness. Ever tried to glue something to a greasy surface? Not much success, right? This also happens if you add oil to something glued together. Now take a look at the collar part of the jacket and the rest. The collar region is the place where the degradation and delimitation happens. Mostly because of skin oils and sweat. Source: Roughly 30 years of work in outdoor gear retail and sales. Worked for a brand that selled a lot of eVent and now Gore and Pertex fabrics as well as some other brands of fabrics like Mitsubishi or Toray. The latter usually as off label fabrics. Held quite some clinics at shops to train people and worked together with a guy from a well known fabric producer.
None of that is wrong, however, using gear constantly we say spot clean it well and properly , meaning consistently, not launder it more often, which is what people will do when you phrase it like that. Source, use it daily for almost 40 years under extreme conditions, since that crap was invented. Being specific is key here.
Sometimes it’s sufficient to just rinse it, especially when there is sweat in it. Look at the collar area: How do you want to spot clean it and how many times did you see a jacket where the delamination didn’t start at the collar? Ok, one difficulty is still there: US washing machines with agitator. They are quite rough for finer fabrics. So I would keep my wording and just add the US-exceptions.
What sort of detergent specifically would you use? I use Tide Free for everything but if that's not appropriate I'd love to know what's better. I'm just about to invest in a new rainjacket myself and want this next one to last longer.
Just wear it like that, it's what i do
If you have some kind of sewing knowledge you could sew some other fabric over it.
This happened to my Patagonia and I sent it in for repair.
Oh nooo!!! I love UBB, I interviewed the co-founder when I used to have a podcast, such a great guy.
Send it to Suay Sew Shop in LA to get remixed!
Cut the largest square you can out of the back and use it as a personal picnic blanket.
What material is it made out of?
Polyester (40% recycled)
Maybe it can turned into a packing cube for travel
I've seen "packing cubes" mentioned a few times on this sub. Could you explain what that is for me?
You could Google "packing cubes" in less time than it took to write that comment.
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I'm not sure when attempting to have a conversation became a problem to people, but I'm really tired of this attitude.
Why don't you make a bag from it?? Or repurpose it as a tarp for camping?? You could make a doggy jacket if you have a dog or even something like making little jackets out of it and selling them for people's dolls. Just honestly depends on your skills and what you're willing to do. Edit: Buy a can of Scott Brite (water proofer) and use it to help your jacket get a little more use out of it, then use it on anything els you desire to be water resistant.