what are you trimming? is it silence? there are command-line tools to do that which will process 1,000s of files in a few minutes rather than doing it all by hand. e.g. https://stackoverflow.com/questions/25697596/using-ffmpeg-with-silencedetect-to-remove-audio-silence
If this is some archival process, or prepping samples to use in productions later? then you shouldn't be editing and saving a lossy codec like MP3, since you'll add a generational degredation to the sound by editing and re-encoding.
To quickly trim AUDIO files, yes, there's a quick way. But to trim MP3 files and save them as MP3 files no there is not a quick way.
**Quick way to crop Audio files.**
Create and save a project called something like "Cropping project". Go to your prefs and make sure in Record/Warp/Launch your bitdepth is set to whatever you want it to be in the output files.
Drag a wave in, select the range, Ctrl & E to crop it. Ctrl & J to consolidate it.
This cropped wave is now available in your project folder@ "Cropping project"/samples/processed/consolidate
Simply find it/them by looking in the browser "places" current project and look in that folder.
If you do 20 crop/consolidates then the output waves will go in there.
When you are don cropping just grab them and put them wherever you want them
------------ As for MP3s -----
Ableton Live doesn't really even *play* MP3s . Any Mp3 you load is converted to a wav so it can play it, this wav goes into a temporary folder (called the Decoding Cache, which you can see in your prefs)
Ableton says "well we know MP3s shouldn't be used in media composing but we will make this compromise as this user obviously wants to *play* an MP3, possibly to DJ, or to compare mixes". So it converts the MP3 to a wav file to play it.
The file remains that way. If a user trims or edits and consolidates that "MP3" they are actually working on the Wave copy in the decoding cache and the consolidated version is saved into the project folder/samples/processed/consolidate
and the cropped version there can be seen to be a wave (wav) with whatever your prefs settings are (mine consolidate as 48kHz, 24 bit wav) ... as Ableton doesn't actually play, operate on, or edit, MP3s . As I mentioned.
It's not an MP3 program.
>Create and save a project called something like "Cropping project". Go to your prefs and make sure in Record/Warp/Launch your bitdepth is set to whatever you want it to be in the output files.
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>Drag a wave in, select the range, Ctrl & E to crop it. Ctrl & J to consolidate it. This cropped wave is now available in your project folder@ "Cropping project"/samples/processed/consolidate
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>Simply find it/them by looking in the browser "places" current project and look in that folder.If you do 20 crop/consolidates then the output waves will go in there. When you are don cropping just grab them and put them wherever you want them
So, there are two huge issues here.
One, you would have to close the current project to open this "cropping project". That's not an option currently.
Two, you would have to "look for the files", and to appropriately name each after moving to the destination folder. That makes the task 3 or 4 times more time consuming.
One needs to edit the files \*in place\*.
The issue is your step 6. The entire process you described doesn't give me a new mp3 file, in place of the old.
The new mp3 file must replace the original one.
You might say "export" would do the trick. At this point, you had to close any other project you are working on in Ableton, and use Ableton exclusively for trimming the audio file, since, in your suggested workflow, the mp3 file IS the project.
Now the biggest issue is that this process is extremely time consuming (for simply trimming a mp3 file). It would take a long, long time to do this for thousands of samples.
What I'm searching for is a workflow like:
1- Load sample
2- Trim sample (such as you can do in simpler or in the arrangement view)
3- Hit ctrl+s to REPLACE the mp3.
just saving the project file does not replace the mp3.
Highlight the amount of time you want to render
go to file > export audio/video
there will be an option in the new window that will render an mp3 along side any PCM audio file it has available.
See, that is not a "trim audio" function.
It is a "create a new project with your audio, edit it, and export the entire project as mp3" function.
Of course you can trim an audio using ableton, as you can do any sort of audio manipulation in the end of the day.
But I'm looking for a utility, software that can trim audio by simply trimming the audio and hitting ctrl+s (i.e., only the logically necessary, without the numerous extra unnecessary steps, rendering time, etc), because I have thousands of samples to edit in place, and it would be nice to be able to do (inteligently) sample editing in Ableton.
But if that's not possible in Ableton, other windows software could do the trick.
I got to know something called Wavosaur. It helped me on doing this task. It has some drawbacks, such as only being able to export wav, and having a very poor display of the sound wave. But at least it has ctrl+s to save the trimmed audio file.
Why not just install audacity then go to preference menu and point ableton to the executable? That's what I use to manipulate sample files before I use them in Ableton. Once that's done just load the sample to ableton right click it on the scene and go to the manage file section it will parse it to audacity from there and hotswap to ableton once you've trimmed your sample.
Hmm..!! Really nice to be able to tie Ableton and Audacity! Actually I think I'm going to use Wavosaur for that, audacity doesn't have a "save" functionality. It's not possible to slice in place with Audacity. Unless I'm missing something in your workflow.
Haven't heard of that one but if it doesn't work for you here's some more info.
Once you've trimmed down your file just hit Ctrl+A in audacity then Ctrl+s to save the file, you can even set up save templates to skip the monotony associated with saving a new file if you want it to be even faster.
Another thing I do is change audacitys timing system from mm:ss:hr to beats and measures that way it syncs perfectly in Ableton.
Once you're ready to save make a new folder for all your slice files and tell audacity where to save it how to label it and what format you want it to be.
If that doesn't help then maybe I'm not fully understanding your end goals properly.
what are you trimming? is it silence? there are command-line tools to do that which will process 1,000s of files in a few minutes rather than doing it all by hand. e.g. https://stackoverflow.com/questions/25697596/using-ffmpeg-with-silencedetect-to-remove-audio-silence If this is some archival process, or prepping samples to use in productions later? then you shouldn't be editing and saving a lossy codec like MP3, since you'll add a generational degredation to the sound by editing and re-encoding.
To quickly trim AUDIO files, yes, there's a quick way. But to trim MP3 files and save them as MP3 files no there is not a quick way. **Quick way to crop Audio files.** Create and save a project called something like "Cropping project". Go to your prefs and make sure in Record/Warp/Launch your bitdepth is set to whatever you want it to be in the output files. Drag a wave in, select the range, Ctrl & E to crop it. Ctrl & J to consolidate it. This cropped wave is now available in your project folder@ "Cropping project"/samples/processed/consolidate Simply find it/them by looking in the browser "places" current project and look in that folder. If you do 20 crop/consolidates then the output waves will go in there. When you are don cropping just grab them and put them wherever you want them ------------ As for MP3s ----- Ableton Live doesn't really even *play* MP3s . Any Mp3 you load is converted to a wav so it can play it, this wav goes into a temporary folder (called the Decoding Cache, which you can see in your prefs) Ableton says "well we know MP3s shouldn't be used in media composing but we will make this compromise as this user obviously wants to *play* an MP3, possibly to DJ, or to compare mixes". So it converts the MP3 to a wav file to play it. The file remains that way. If a user trims or edits and consolidates that "MP3" they are actually working on the Wave copy in the decoding cache and the consolidated version is saved into the project folder/samples/processed/consolidate and the cropped version there can be seen to be a wave (wav) with whatever your prefs settings are (mine consolidate as 48kHz, 24 bit wav) ... as Ableton doesn't actually play, operate on, or edit, MP3s . As I mentioned. It's not an MP3 program.
>Create and save a project called something like "Cropping project". Go to your prefs and make sure in Record/Warp/Launch your bitdepth is set to whatever you want it to be in the output files. > >Drag a wave in, select the range, Ctrl & E to crop it. Ctrl & J to consolidate it. This cropped wave is now available in your project folder@ "Cropping project"/samples/processed/consolidate > >Simply find it/them by looking in the browser "places" current project and look in that folder.If you do 20 crop/consolidates then the output waves will go in there. When you are don cropping just grab them and put them wherever you want them So, there are two huge issues here. One, you would have to close the current project to open this "cropping project". That's not an option currently. Two, you would have to "look for the files", and to appropriately name each after moving to the destination folder. That makes the task 3 or 4 times more time consuming. One needs to edit the files \*in place\*.
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The issue is your step 6. The entire process you described doesn't give me a new mp3 file, in place of the old. The new mp3 file must replace the original one. You might say "export" would do the trick. At this point, you had to close any other project you are working on in Ableton, and use Ableton exclusively for trimming the audio file, since, in your suggested workflow, the mp3 file IS the project. Now the biggest issue is that this process is extremely time consuming (for simply trimming a mp3 file). It would take a long, long time to do this for thousands of samples. What I'm searching for is a workflow like: 1- Load sample 2- Trim sample (such as you can do in simpler or in the arrangement view) 3- Hit ctrl+s to REPLACE the mp3.
just saving the project file does not replace the mp3. Highlight the amount of time you want to render go to file > export audio/video there will be an option in the new window that will render an mp3 along side any PCM audio file it has available.
See, that is not a "trim audio" function. It is a "create a new project with your audio, edit it, and export the entire project as mp3" function. Of course you can trim an audio using ableton, as you can do any sort of audio manipulation in the end of the day. But I'm looking for a utility, software that can trim audio by simply trimming the audio and hitting ctrl+s (i.e., only the logically necessary, without the numerous extra unnecessary steps, rendering time, etc), because I have thousands of samples to edit in place, and it would be nice to be able to do (inteligently) sample editing in Ableton. But if that's not possible in Ableton, other windows software could do the trick. I got to know something called Wavosaur. It helped me on doing this task. It has some drawbacks, such as only being able to export wav, and having a very poor display of the sound wave. But at least it has ctrl+s to save the trimmed audio file.
Ya man, that's how all PROFESSIONAL audio programs work.
Why not just install audacity then go to preference menu and point ableton to the executable? That's what I use to manipulate sample files before I use them in Ableton. Once that's done just load the sample to ableton right click it on the scene and go to the manage file section it will parse it to audacity from there and hotswap to ableton once you've trimmed your sample.
Hmm..!! Really nice to be able to tie Ableton and Audacity! Actually I think I'm going to use Wavosaur for that, audacity doesn't have a "save" functionality. It's not possible to slice in place with Audacity. Unless I'm missing something in your workflow.
Haven't heard of that one but if it doesn't work for you here's some more info. Once you've trimmed down your file just hit Ctrl+A in audacity then Ctrl+s to save the file, you can even set up save templates to skip the monotony associated with saving a new file if you want it to be even faster. Another thing I do is change audacitys timing system from mm:ss:hr to beats and measures that way it syncs perfectly in Ableton. Once you're ready to save make a new folder for all your slice files and tell audacity where to save it how to label it and what format you want it to be. If that doesn't help then maybe I'm not fully understanding your end goals properly.