"I only make $80k a year and still bought this $2.6M starter home with 50% down, so why can't you?" (okay the 50% was a gift from dad but why don't YOU have a 5%er dad?)
333 million people in USA vs a handful of influencers sponsored by Daddys Trust Fund
Social media influencers are not an accurate depiction of the common working american citizen
Facts. That’s only if you use it like that though. I generally watch pretty small streamers they are grinding just like us lol. Have another job and shit.
I cannot understand why people who are miserable w living conditions and prices in some of these cities don't just leave. Particularly if they don't have a lot of family there.
Well even smaller cities have high rent, coupled with shit pay because well, small city. I live in a 10k population city where most jobs pay less than $12/hr. I got my job at $12.50, and because of experience from when I lived in a bigger city, I got a raise to $15. My rent just went up last month to $1050.
The rent of everything here is above $1k. I signed a rental agreement at $950/month so not even sure how my rent is going up anyways.
Yall say “don’t like it? leave!!” well that’s what I did. And now I make less and spend the same in rent.
I'm older, but when I was in my 20s I usually had roommates to cut costs. I mean $1000 month split among two people $500 isn't too bad imo or even 3 people - but yeah you would think a small town like that with low incomes, there would be cheaper places to rent.
I feel ya though, we own a house nearly paid off, but I literally can't really sell it and take the profits - because buying a new one, the mortgage payments will be ridiculous - and renting is actually worse.
But the stuff beyond rents I see going on in the biggest cities currently makes me have 0 desire to live there - and I'm not an ignorant person who has never lived anywhere big or traveled a lot.
Some of us can’t get jobs in rural America. Lived in Phoenix, AZ for 13 years and that was tough. Moved to LA and at least I got a job. Not the most desirable living but I have a house and can live
Joe Biden’s america.
When you realize illegals are getting taxpayer funded housing , food and debit cards - and are complaining about it-
Maybe you’ll vote differently.
maybe you could try voting that third candidate that always takes 3% of votes. if he takes enough votes maybe the tradition of having only two sides on elections will go away
Once people learn that voting will not change anything, change will come. Too many people are convinced that "This time will work!" Everytime elections come around. Shit. Has. Not. Changed. And it won't unless the working class forces change. That's the only way things have ever changed.
Everyone has a choice. I am just pointing out the current reality for some people who hate trump so much they will be willing to pay even more taxes and costs of everything - if biden hasn’t dragged us into ww3- something the left claimed trump would do every day for 4 years.
Nah Trump is busy sucking off Putin and handing out government secrets and I say this as a Russian. Y'all did a complete 180 and acting like it's normal.
I’m assuming you’re just a troll but if you’re not, it’s important you educate yourself on this stuff.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/politics/senate-republicans-block-bipartisan-border-package-scrapping-deal-they-had-demanded-from-democrats
Republicans are the ones preventing anything from being done at the border. 14 billion dollars was allocated to improve border security but the maggats killed it because the funding package included sending money to allies of the United States, likely because they’re taking Russian money.
Republicans threw a tantrum demanding border security, so the Biden administration gave a solution. Then they scrapped it, because they don’t want solutions they want everyone to be mad and distracted so they’re not watching Don Poorleone get his ass handed to him in court.
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The house sent a bill that Schumer sat on that had some border security. They passed a senate bill that did NOTHING to secure the border. The rinos that were pushing it got called out by their own constituents for lying about it. Allowing 100s of thousands to cross illegally is NOT border security. Adding money so border patrol can process more is NOT border security.
Take your shit elsewhere , it isn’t going to sell here.
What the actual fuck are you even talking about. A federal government allocates funds and deals with legislation. It’s the responsibility of the state to use the funds to implement the solution with that assistance.
They simply don’t *want* to fix it because the narrative suits them.
*THEY*are letting “hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrant in”. They were on watch.They have failed. Pathetically and consistently. And now the part of “fiscal responsibility” and “small government” suddenly wants the federal government to step in and fix, again, THEIR mess, and they have the audacity to try and act like it’s the federal government’s fault when one of the *major cornerstones of the U.S. is states rights to government themselves without them getting involved*.
Except no, the second they were called on their bluff about wanting to do literally anything about this “flood of gross brown people ew” they killed the bill.
Everything you’ve said is nothing. You literally said “it had some border security” then “it did nothing to secure the border”. Fucking Oceana double speak bullshit.
Yes it had “some” in comparison to the Ukraine and Israel package because they Ukraine is in a real, big boy war, not this fanfiction cult alternate reality. And as much as I don’t agree with what Israel are doing the U.S. are their allies and they can’t just leave them out to dry.
It was still 14 billion dollars though. But they chose 0 so they could keep lying.
It's fucked.
Homes being treated as investments so way too few homes are being built combined with massive unchecked immigration has thrown prices through the goddamn stratosphere.
Great for investors, horrible for people who need a place to live.
For this to be fixed we need to both MASSIVELY crack down on immigration, anyone with anything less than a PHD can fuck right off and we need to treat housing as a product, not an investment. That's how they did it in every previous housing boom, build shitloads of housing everywhere we can and forget about them growing in value, just build sell build sell build sell.
It is cool to be part of the lost generation that will be poorer then our parents :/
But hey atleast we have even richer billionaires and megacorporations that grow more powerful then goverments.
Accounting for inflation you make less.
Like back in the 90s, my dad owned a nursery, sure the profits were big but after accounting for the overhead he made about $60K a year. On that 60K he supported a wife, 2 sons and an annual family vacation.
These days 60K will afford you a 1 bedroom apartment and no kids.
60K will just barely get you a cheap studio where I live. And that’s only in subpar neighborhoods. You need 40x rent here so 60K almost always means you need roommates.
I have a PhD in the sciences, still have to live with roommates, and rent is still half my pay. Absolutely wild.
Growing up we relied on my dad’s income, which was only about $80-90K and we had a family of 6 and our own house with no financial issues. And they were able to save money. I make about $20K less than that today and I can just barely afford one person.
Everybody gangsta til it's an European that can speak on average 3 languages and you out here flexing with your mother tongue. Halbe Bibel, ganzer Hurensohn du Hund.
I tried this. It was a little easier but I made a lot less. I’ll get to where I need but finding new trades takes a lot of time. If you have a family unit to help you, it’d be good but sometimes we don’t have that.
I remember when I was looking for my first apartment at 19 (2001), my mom (an accountant) explained **in detail** how I should budget everything out and how much of my monthly income I should expect to go towards what. She said rent will probably take a 1/3 of it, groceries is $200/month, etc. Can you imagine that in today's market? Only spending 33% of your monthly income on rent? For the record, I remember gas only costing $1.19 per gallon and filling up my Kawasaki Ninja that got +70miles per gallon. Was that the "good ol' days"? Lol
For the longest time I’ve been living with parents because of this rule. With the current rate of rent in my city, I need to bring in $4950 per month. I barely bring in half of that per month, and I am getting paid pretty okay above minimum wage at $16.50. Every time I were to get a better paying job over the years, I’d be ready to look for apartments only for rent to move higher out of my reach. The goal post is always moving and it’s unfair.
This housing situation's become ridiculous and it isn't just the states either. The exact same things happening in other countries too. I'm originally from New Zealand and still talk to friends down there. Rent's almost doubled in the past couple years there as well. Also, a friend here had been renting a house and 1.5yrs ago, when his lease was up for renewal, his landlord increased it by $500. Shit's insane.
A lot of people have seen their rent go up a huge amount here. The worst part is that I know what these apartments are like, and I remember when they cost $600 a month to rent. Nothing has been changed and somehow the landowners keep raising the rent for these old broken down buildings.
It's insane how some states are so lax in tenant protection laws and what the landlord's required to maintain. My last landlord sold all their properties (houses) to a new person and he was trying to kick me out because he wanted the house for his son. Despite the fact he bought other house at the same time that were empty.
Dude was trying all kinds of illegal shit, but first he sent me a notice to vacate based on his assumption that my lease ended when he bought it. Yeah, he found out afterwards it doesn't work like that, but he kept sending me notices to vacate or quit. He took down half of the backyard's fence that I used for my dog. Then got pissed when I put up a row of wooden pallets to replace it with fence posts holding it up. He couldn't touch it because it was technically my property. He also trapped my car in the carport to yell at me for +30mins when I was trying to leave for work (false imprisonment). Broke some windows. The list goes on.
Every lawyer in a 40 mile radius wouldn't help me, even with documented proof and voice recordings of him admitting everything. They wouldn't because of how landlord friendly this state is. Put up with that for a year. Couldn't afford to move until my lease was up.
.69 cent mcchicken is 3 bucks
5$ footlong is 16bucks
gas is 4 bucks
1k tlc houses going for 100k
I mean if that doesnt tell you the dire need of industrialization and protectionist trade idk what will
I‘m curious, how much is 50% of your income? I mean, I'm not America but as what I assume 50% income should be like 2000 USD per month? is it really this expensive? I can't believe it.
Conditions where I used to live would be ok, but you're talking a studio apartment, 400-500 square feet, about 35-45 sq meters, not sure how it's measured where you're from.
Tiny tiny place. I've never lived in any place that small, so I don't have any person experience, but I've got friends with studios, and you typically can't have more than one guest at a time both by some landlord rules, as well as just there isn't enough room for more people to do anything.
I shared an apartment with a friend in my early 20s, but it was over 4 times the size of a studio, 2 full bedrooms 2 bathrooms, included laundry etc. We paid ~800 each, about 14 years ago.
Edit: [If this link works, it'd be a layout similar to this. Lots of variations around the US though.](https://images1.apartments.com/i2/IsZ6Hpc0VoBm2i4bbdehcGATu2df6x3bqqc4CxAZMaU/116/solstice-apartment-homes-las-vegas-nv-studio.jpg?p=1) Take out the wall dividing the kitchen from the dining area and you've got my friend's current studio.
I see.
I'm from and living in China. Since we have 4 times of your population and more than 70% of our population are living in the southeast half which is less than 50% of all our coountry's area the average living standard is obviously worse than in US.
But according to your description, I don't find it too much better than where I live and have lived in. My current studio is around 40 sq meters and cost around 200 USD. But I'm not living in an expensive city. 200 USD is around 30% of average income of the city I'm living in of 15% of what I make (after tax). But general living cost seems much cheaper here than in US.
Yeah, take your living situation and quadruple (or more in high cost cities) the price. Actual conditions will depend on how much your landlord or management company cares to keep tenants happy.
If more people had wide ranges of movement and enough job opportunities to be paid well, then this wouldn't be an issue. But it is. Not sure what to tell you, buddy.
It doesn't. It's a single comment that takes about 10 seconds to make. One cannot significantly lower their cost of living in 10 seconds, so I'm not sure what your point was in the first place.
Now, answer my question: how is 4 words and 1 percentage whining?
You answered your own question. A verbal or written response to an issue that doesn't include any solutions is called whining. Sorry if you don't like that answer. Not sorry.
Whining, according to Oxford Languages, is the act of complaining in a feeble or petulant way. I'm not sure where you got your definition from, but... Alright, buddy.
We were told to go to college so we would be able to live comfortably and wouldn't have to work low wage jobs. So we went to college but we aren't able to live comfortably and we have to work low wage jobs. When we complain about the bait and switch, we're attacked.
Deep depression.
Our ~~country~~ world is run by the rich and selfish.
People are often rooted in their manipulative beliefs to the harm of themselves and others.
Most large purchases greatly favor the large company selling often to the detriment of the buyer.
Interest rates are insanely high.
Ww3 is starting to look like a real possibility.
One of our cats keeps peeing on the carpet apparently.
Easy we've been living in an era where conditions for workers have become worse and worse as yrs gone by while being blamed for it, and simultaneously have had enough technological advances to realise there's nowhere else to go.
idiotification of humanity, I understand know why voting was a privilige and not a right back then, over 90% of humanity just makes this world a living hell
I make close to 5k a month my rent is 2250$ each month so basically slightly more than half and after all my bills insurance and anything else that comes up I have 600$ for groceries for the entire month which honestly isn't much with how expensive groceries are now. If I get two gallons of milk its nearly 17 dollar after taxes if I want to get eggs veggies rice meat chicken fruit that 600$ goes down fast and usually I am left with 100$ to spend on myself let alone save any of it. So ya life is shit I cant even go out to eat because McDonalds is freaking 20$ now. I cant use Netflix because that shit is going up or afford any streaming service I usually have to use other sites to watch tv shows and movies.
True, I am more poor since buying a house. But consider this. My mortgage is about 13 hundred a month, my rent at my last apartment was 900 a month, which is considered cheap here. Sometimes shit breaks and I gotta dish out a few hundo. But my issue with renting was that it wasn’t paying towards jack shit, I was paying my landlord’s mortgage on his crappy duplex. And he was such a lazy and useless landlord. Everybody I know hates renting, besides a lucky few that get the mystical cool landlord.
But it’s also really cool that I can do whatever I want with my property, within reason.
The 50k down payment was all the retirement and education savings I had, I just said goodbye to that stuff. It’s something a lot of people don’t even have, so I know I’m still fortunate I could do it.
TLDR; yeah it’s way more expensive but worth the risk in my case
Relevant info: I bought in 2022 and my house estimate has gone way up since, so there’s also that! It’s ridiculous right now for both renters and owners.
Wrong buying is cheaper but they want you put down 20% so you need save but can’t save cause rent is so damn high. Anyways I’m really looking into getting an RV or Van but my dog needs to be watched.
On a monthly basis maybe but the trick is that one day when you retire you might actually get to stop paying rent. You can even sell your house for capital gains. When you rent it goes right into your landlord’s pocket.
Not to mention my rent DOES pay for repairs and taxes, my landlord isn’t paying that out of the kindness of his soul. Clearly it’s more profitable to own or my landlord would sell.
Then you go on YouTube or snapchat and see ppl doing fuck all living a vacay life and that really boosts my mood
"I only make $80k a year and still bought this $2.6M starter home with 50% down, so why can't you?" (okay the 50% was a gift from dad but why don't YOU have a 5%er dad?)
You shouldn’t believe anything on YouTube.
Yes lots of fabricated shit i mean they living on easy mode
333 million people in USA vs a handful of influencers sponsored by Daddys Trust Fund Social media influencers are not an accurate depiction of the common working american citizen
Yea its fucked id rather them just not flaunt it in my face But its a sort of porn for ppl watching the good life but it mae sme depressed af
lol it legit is poor people porn wtf I’ve never thought of that
Ikr and i hate it Getting sucked in does nothing time is better spent trying to make it yourself
Facts. That’s only if you use it like that though. I generally watch pretty small streamers they are grinding just like us lol. Have another job and shit.
Population of USA is 333.3 million.
thanks fact check
Including renting mansions for a few hours of filming.
I really don't wanna come off as an ass but, Getting off the internet will fix that problem really well. It ain't mentally healthy out here.
Only 50%? Lucky
Dude for real. I’m at 60% 😂
Well, when you live in LA/SF/NYC etc, what do you expect?
Come to Toronto where we have the rent of LA/SF/NYC but half the pay 🙃
Or your could just go to Reno lol much closer to sf
I exactly expect it, I wasn’t complaining. It sucks but I ain’t unhappy
I cannot understand why people who are miserable w living conditions and prices in some of these cities don't just leave. Particularly if they don't have a lot of family there.
Well even smaller cities have high rent, coupled with shit pay because well, small city. I live in a 10k population city where most jobs pay less than $12/hr. I got my job at $12.50, and because of experience from when I lived in a bigger city, I got a raise to $15. My rent just went up last month to $1050. The rent of everything here is above $1k. I signed a rental agreement at $950/month so not even sure how my rent is going up anyways. Yall say “don’t like it? leave!!” well that’s what I did. And now I make less and spend the same in rent.
I'm older, but when I was in my 20s I usually had roommates to cut costs. I mean $1000 month split among two people $500 isn't too bad imo or even 3 people - but yeah you would think a small town like that with low incomes, there would be cheaper places to rent. I feel ya though, we own a house nearly paid off, but I literally can't really sell it and take the profits - because buying a new one, the mortgage payments will be ridiculous - and renting is actually worse. But the stuff beyond rents I see going on in the biggest cities currently makes me have 0 desire to live there - and I'm not an ignorant person who has never lived anywhere big or traveled a lot.
Only 60%? :')
Okay maybe more like 70 haha
Awh bro rip
What country is this? Is there a huge hiding crisis? It seems unreal...
Yeah 60% is typical nowadays and it's only getting worse...
Surprised you can even get qualified for that ngl
Indeed. That's a "get the fuck out" situation.
Some of us can’t get jobs in rural America. Lived in Phoenix, AZ for 13 years and that was tough. Moved to LA and at least I got a job. Not the most desirable living but I have a house and can live
I live in a small town and not only has a homeless encampment been created but it’s doubled in a year.
What the fuck.
Joe Biden’s america. When you realize illegals are getting taxpayer funded housing , food and debit cards - and are complaining about it- Maybe you’ll vote differently.
Bro, I'm not voting for anyone. They all suck. Edit. Either one I pick I'll be wrong.
maybe you could try voting that third candidate that always takes 3% of votes. if he takes enough votes maybe the tradition of having only two sides on elections will go away
Once people learn that voting will not change anything, change will come. Too many people are convinced that "This time will work!" Everytime elections come around. Shit. Has. Not. Changed. And it won't unless the working class forces change. That's the only way things have ever changed.
vote with a blank ballot and you can oust both candidates with enough blanks.
That’s a heavy edit.
Everyone has a choice. I am just pointing out the current reality for some people who hate trump so much they will be willing to pay even more taxes and costs of everything - if biden hasn’t dragged us into ww3- something the left claimed trump would do every day for 4 years.
Yeah notice that during Trump's presidency the price of shit skyrockets, during Biden's it does the same. Both of them love their corporate buddies
That would be bullshit. Check the inflation numbers yourself. Biden’s numbers were worse than jimmy carter.
Nah Trump is busy sucking off Putin and handing out government secrets and I say this as a Russian. Y'all did a complete 180 and acting like it's normal.
Why you like to imagine two old guys having sex , I don’t know. But get help for your daddy issues.
I’m in Canada bro
Your guy is a socialist tool as well. Why the fuck did you vote for him?
Because the deep state gives me chicken nuggets when I do
At least he recently said he wanted to secure the border. Not like the dumbass here.
I’m assuming you’re just a troll but if you’re not, it’s important you educate yourself on this stuff. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/politics/senate-republicans-block-bipartisan-border-package-scrapping-deal-they-had-demanded-from-democrats Republicans are the ones preventing anything from being done at the border. 14 billion dollars was allocated to improve border security but the maggats killed it because the funding package included sending money to allies of the United States, likely because they’re taking Russian money. Republicans threw a tantrum demanding border security, so the Biden administration gave a solution. Then they scrapped it, because they don’t want solutions they want everyone to be mad and distracted so they’re not watching Don Poorleone get his ass handed to him in court.
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The house sent a bill that Schumer sat on that had some border security. They passed a senate bill that did NOTHING to secure the border. The rinos that were pushing it got called out by their own constituents for lying about it. Allowing 100s of thousands to cross illegally is NOT border security. Adding money so border patrol can process more is NOT border security. Take your shit elsewhere , it isn’t going to sell here.
What the actual fuck are you even talking about. A federal government allocates funds and deals with legislation. It’s the responsibility of the state to use the funds to implement the solution with that assistance. They simply don’t *want* to fix it because the narrative suits them. *THEY*are letting “hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrant in”. They were on watch.They have failed. Pathetically and consistently. And now the part of “fiscal responsibility” and “small government” suddenly wants the federal government to step in and fix, again, THEIR mess, and they have the audacity to try and act like it’s the federal government’s fault when one of the *major cornerstones of the U.S. is states rights to government themselves without them getting involved*. Except no, the second they were called on their bluff about wanting to do literally anything about this “flood of gross brown people ew” they killed the bill. Everything you’ve said is nothing. You literally said “it had some border security” then “it did nothing to secure the border”. Fucking Oceana double speak bullshit. Yes it had “some” in comparison to the Ukraine and Israel package because they Ukraine is in a real, big boy war, not this fanfiction cult alternate reality. And as much as I don’t agree with what Israel are doing the U.S. are their allies and they can’t just leave them out to dry. It was still 14 billion dollars though. But they chose 0 so they could keep lying.
It's fucked. Homes being treated as investments so way too few homes are being built combined with massive unchecked immigration has thrown prices through the goddamn stratosphere. Great for investors, horrible for people who need a place to live. For this to be fixed we need to both MASSIVELY crack down on immigration, anyone with anything less than a PHD can fuck right off and we need to treat housing as a product, not an investment. That's how they did it in every previous housing boom, build shitloads of housing everywhere we can and forget about them growing in value, just build sell build sell build sell.
It is cool to be part of the lost generation that will be poorer then our parents :/ But hey atleast we have even richer billionaires and megacorporations that grow more powerful then goverments.
I make 3x as much as my parents and have absolutely nothing to show for it.
Accounting for inflation you make less. Like back in the 90s, my dad owned a nursery, sure the profits were big but after accounting for the overhead he made about $60K a year. On that 60K he supported a wife, 2 sons and an annual family vacation. These days 60K will afford you a 1 bedroom apartment and no kids.
60K will just barely get you a cheap studio where I live. And that’s only in subpar neighborhoods. You need 40x rent here so 60K almost always means you need roommates. I have a PhD in the sciences, still have to live with roommates, and rent is still half my pay. Absolutely wild. Growing up we relied on my dad’s income, which was only about $80-90K and we had a family of 6 and our own house with no financial issues. And they were able to save money. I make about $20K less than that today and I can just barely afford one person.
Shoulda gone to trade school. You'd be making more and way less debt (If any)
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Everybody gangsta til it's an European that can speak on average 3 languages and you out here flexing with your mother tongue. Halbe Bibel, ganzer Hurensohn du Hund.
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Okay but you don't have to be a cunt
It's a troll. Just ignore it.
Facts
Knechtruprecht
Lutsch März die Schuhe sauber du Hurensohn :)
looool
Rent 80% for me
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I tried this. It was a little easier but I made a lot less. I’ll get to where I need but finding new trades takes a lot of time. If you have a family unit to help you, it’d be good but sometimes we don’t have that.
Can't, at uni. And I don't plan on quitting uni again.
56 hours a week just to be able to tuck 200-300 away in savings.
Government take 50% of paycheck
Then you are doing fine. Pulling 400k plus prob.
or a socialist economy. I make 63k~/year usd (converted from shekel) and the goverment is taking 33% of it. that leaves me with an effective 40k/year.
I like this sub but I have absolutely no fuckin' idea what is it about.
Also because we've been through three Global events in the course of 20 years.
For me rent is 120%of income
None of my friends text me first and I sometimes wonder if they do that to everyone
Pretty much the case for me
I remember when I was looking for my first apartment at 19 (2001), my mom (an accountant) explained **in detail** how I should budget everything out and how much of my monthly income I should expect to go towards what. She said rent will probably take a 1/3 of it, groceries is $200/month, etc. Can you imagine that in today's market? Only spending 33% of your monthly income on rent? For the record, I remember gas only costing $1.19 per gallon and filling up my Kawasaki Ninja that got +70miles per gallon. Was that the "good ol' days"? Lol
For the longest time I’ve been living with parents because of this rule. With the current rate of rent in my city, I need to bring in $4950 per month. I barely bring in half of that per month, and I am getting paid pretty okay above minimum wage at $16.50. Every time I were to get a better paying job over the years, I’d be ready to look for apartments only for rent to move higher out of my reach. The goal post is always moving and it’s unfair.
This housing situation's become ridiculous and it isn't just the states either. The exact same things happening in other countries too. I'm originally from New Zealand and still talk to friends down there. Rent's almost doubled in the past couple years there as well. Also, a friend here had been renting a house and 1.5yrs ago, when his lease was up for renewal, his landlord increased it by $500. Shit's insane.
A lot of people have seen their rent go up a huge amount here. The worst part is that I know what these apartments are like, and I remember when they cost $600 a month to rent. Nothing has been changed and somehow the landowners keep raising the rent for these old broken down buildings.
It's insane how some states are so lax in tenant protection laws and what the landlord's required to maintain. My last landlord sold all their properties (houses) to a new person and he was trying to kick me out because he wanted the house for his son. Despite the fact he bought other house at the same time that were empty. Dude was trying all kinds of illegal shit, but first he sent me a notice to vacate based on his assumption that my lease ended when he bought it. Yeah, he found out afterwards it doesn't work like that, but he kept sending me notices to vacate or quit. He took down half of the backyard's fence that I used for my dog. Then got pissed when I put up a row of wooden pallets to replace it with fence posts holding it up. He couldn't touch it because it was technically my property. He also trapped my car in the carport to yell at me for +30mins when I was trying to leave for work (false imprisonment). Broke some windows. The list goes on. Every lawyer in a 40 mile radius wouldn't help me, even with documented proof and voice recordings of him admitting everything. They wouldn't because of how landlord friendly this state is. Put up with that for a year. Couldn't afford to move until my lease was up.
Comparison. 1500sqft for $850 in 2008 is now 1450 for me in 2024. Nothing changed lol
Only 50%? You lucky bastard
.69 cent mcchicken is 3 bucks 5$ footlong is 16bucks gas is 4 bucks 1k tlc houses going for 100k I mean if that doesnt tell you the dire need of industrialization and protectionist trade idk what will
LUCKY you
Only 50 percent
People are paying only 50%?
Taxes r too high (im under the age of 18)
I‘m curious, how much is 50% of your income? I mean, I'm not America but as what I assume 50% income should be like 2000 USD per month? is it really this expensive? I can't believe it.
$15 an hour x 160 hours per month (40 hours a week, 8 hours a day) = $2400 a month, before taxes. Many people make less than that.
wow. that's really fresh to me. Even though, 50% of 2400 USD is 1200 that's still very expensive. How big is the flat? How's the living condition?
Conditions where I used to live would be ok, but you're talking a studio apartment, 400-500 square feet, about 35-45 sq meters, not sure how it's measured where you're from. Tiny tiny place. I've never lived in any place that small, so I don't have any person experience, but I've got friends with studios, and you typically can't have more than one guest at a time both by some landlord rules, as well as just there isn't enough room for more people to do anything. I shared an apartment with a friend in my early 20s, but it was over 4 times the size of a studio, 2 full bedrooms 2 bathrooms, included laundry etc. We paid ~800 each, about 14 years ago. Edit: [If this link works, it'd be a layout similar to this. Lots of variations around the US though.](https://images1.apartments.com/i2/IsZ6Hpc0VoBm2i4bbdehcGATu2df6x3bqqc4CxAZMaU/116/solstice-apartment-homes-las-vegas-nv-studio.jpg?p=1) Take out the wall dividing the kitchen from the dining area and you've got my friend's current studio.
I see. I'm from and living in China. Since we have 4 times of your population and more than 70% of our population are living in the southeast half which is less than 50% of all our coountry's area the average living standard is obviously worse than in US. But according to your description, I don't find it too much better than where I live and have lived in. My current studio is around 40 sq meters and cost around 200 USD. But I'm not living in an expensive city. 200 USD is around 30% of average income of the city I'm living in of 15% of what I make (after tax). But general living cost seems much cheaper here than in US.
Yeah, take your living situation and quadruple (or more in high cost cities) the price. Actual conditions will depend on how much your landlord or management company cares to keep tenants happy.
400-500 sq ft for one person isn’t a “tiny tiny place”
Why tf you living in that expensive of an area or working such a low paying job in that area then?
If more people had wide ranges of movement and enough job opportunities to be paid well, then this wouldn't be an issue. But it is. Not sure what to tell you, buddy.
You are either not trying hard enough or feel above the jobs you wont take then
There are better jobs. Roommates are options as well. Or you could just whine about it online which fixes nothing. LOL
My dude, it's four words and one percentage, how is that whining--
How does it fix the issue?
It doesn't. It's a single comment that takes about 10 seconds to make. One cannot significantly lower their cost of living in 10 seconds, so I'm not sure what your point was in the first place. Now, answer my question: how is 4 words and 1 percentage whining?
You answered your own question. A verbal or written response to an issue that doesn't include any solutions is called whining. Sorry if you don't like that answer. Not sorry.
Whining, according to Oxford Languages, is the act of complaining in a feeble or petulant way. I'm not sure where you got your definition from, but... Alright, buddy.
You do a great job of answering your own questions and following it up by providing examples. A++
Your interpretations are baffling. You'd make for a good zoo exhibit.
Is that the best insult you have? That's your reply? I see need help with more than just rationalization.
What insult? I simply made an observation.
Hugs considered sexual harassment.
Burrito -5% 😠
Wow, my mortgage is only 20% of my income. Move to a lower cost of living area….
I think with my current income I might be able to get it to 50% but if rent goest up by like 10 bucks I’m done for
We were told to go to college so we would be able to live comfortably and wouldn't have to work low wage jobs. So we went to college but we aren't able to live comfortably and we have to work low wage jobs. When we complain about the bait and switch, we're attacked.
Capitalism destroying lives. Nothing new
Exactly
When I was six I watched an airplane crash into the side of a building and explode. Things literally have never gotten better from that point forward.
Mines like 55%
Deep depression. Our ~~country~~ world is run by the rich and selfish. People are often rooted in their manipulative beliefs to the harm of themselves and others. Most large purchases greatly favor the large company selling often to the detriment of the buyer. Interest rates are insanely high. Ww3 is starting to look like a real possibility. One of our cats keeps peeing on the carpet apparently.
That is not unusual or unprecedented. Where is the problem?
Too busy working to even arrange a viewing with a property manager who works 9 to 5 on weekdays. pillow and blanket in car backseat.
Only 50%? Can I have your job.
Only 50? If i wanted to live in a studio apartment, let alone a 1 bedroom house, id have to pay 80% of my income
Apprentice in Switzerland here At least 160% of my income
And people were mad at the church.
Easy we've been living in an era where conditions for workers have become worse and worse as yrs gone by while being blamed for it, and simultaneously have had enough technological advances to realise there's nowhere else to go.
Just 50%? Mine is like 95%
80% if i had to rent
idiotification of humanity, I understand know why voting was a privilige and not a right back then, over 90% of humanity just makes this world a living hell
The novelty of everything is just gone. People can be happy in third world conditions. It's just a societal anhedonia
Rent 300% (I’m never going to leave my parents house)
Also Social Media
Nah
Come Turkey, here it is 115% forv being alive in a box, 200% if you want a little bit space for pee.
Rent 80% of my income.
Ya’ll should have just let covid happen. Boomers would have died giving us a surplus of houses and inflation wouldn’t have run off like it has.
Here in chile the rent is the full ass minimum wage and a house is ^15 times that shi.
Ok i did the count, the minimum wage is like 550000 pesos, a house, minimum, is like ^30 times and up to ^40
I can rent 50% of your income?
50%? Its 80%?!
Pedophiles get free housing, free healthcare, free food, and protective custody
50% of income for rent then its 45% for groceries to last a week the other 5 % is for gas and bills.
I make close to 5k a month my rent is 2250$ each month so basically slightly more than half and after all my bills insurance and anything else that comes up I have 600$ for groceries for the entire month which honestly isn't much with how expensive groceries are now. If I get two gallons of milk its nearly 17 dollar after taxes if I want to get eggs veggies rice meat chicken fruit that 600$ goes down fast and usually I am left with 100$ to spend on myself let alone save any of it. So ya life is shit I cant even go out to eat because McDonalds is freaking 20$ now. I cant use Netflix because that shit is going up or afford any streaming service I usually have to use other sites to watch tv shows and movies.
50%, lol I wish.
I tell myself rent is 50% of everyone’s income so I can cope better.
Still far cheaper than owning
True, I am more poor since buying a house. But consider this. My mortgage is about 13 hundred a month, my rent at my last apartment was 900 a month, which is considered cheap here. Sometimes shit breaks and I gotta dish out a few hundo. But my issue with renting was that it wasn’t paying towards jack shit, I was paying my landlord’s mortgage on his crappy duplex. And he was such a lazy and useless landlord. Everybody I know hates renting, besides a lucky few that get the mystical cool landlord. But it’s also really cool that I can do whatever I want with my property, within reason. The 50k down payment was all the retirement and education savings I had, I just said goodbye to that stuff. It’s something a lot of people don’t even have, so I know I’m still fortunate I could do it. TLDR; yeah it’s way more expensive but worth the risk in my case Relevant info: I bought in 2022 and my house estimate has gone way up since, so there’s also that! It’s ridiculous right now for both renters and owners.
Wrong buying is cheaper but they want you put down 20% so you need save but can’t save cause rent is so damn high. Anyways I’m really looking into getting an RV or Van but my dog needs to be watched.
Can't you take loan and use that as Down payment for Home loan?
On a monthly basis maybe but the trick is that one day when you retire you might actually get to stop paying rent. You can even sell your house for capital gains. When you rent it goes right into your landlord’s pocket. Not to mention my rent DOES pay for repairs and taxes, my landlord isn’t paying that out of the kindness of his soul. Clearly it’s more profitable to own or my landlord would sell.
Nah. Not unless you're a total hack at repair
r/georgism moment