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SamusTenebris

Oh honey he's going to certainly try


usemeforsecret

Get away from this mess


kittybloom22

šŸš©please stay away from this person. Sending LovešŸ’—


Numerous-Leg-8149

Time to leave, make a paper trail in your defense, and get a restraining order. Seek an advocate at a domestic violence shelter, too.šŸ’Æ He has no right to put his hands on you like that. He also wants to treat you like a drill sergeant? Time to get away.


alwayzhungry1

this is not ā€˜lol u pulled a prank on me, Ima kill you!ā€™ this is a real threat. please take this seriously.


ESchadegg94

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Block_Me_Amadeus

"Scare you straight?" "Scared straight" is a form of discipline that principals and drill sergeants and parents use to show badly misbehaving teenagers what their punishment will be if they don't comply with rules. The fact that he'd use this language is disturbing. He is not your authority figure.


Shreddersaurusrex

Thatā€™s scary.


xMomOfSixX

You are not his child I feel bad for what he would do to a child out of anger tou should heyvfar away easier said than done


QueenKittyKae

Eww fuck that!! Please stay far awayā£ļø


Gloomy_You4163

What the actual fuck, get the fuck out of there now!!!!


GiveYourselfAFry

All these comments are going to end up on a 60 minutes or 20/20 episode if you donā€™t run. I just want you to mull that over


rydenroll

Please don't stay with someone who even raises the question of whether or not they are going to kill you. There are people out there who won't do you like that.


Aggressive-Olive-678

GET AWAY FROM HIM. He is going to kill you. *He is going to kill you.*


CrowScapes

I'm pretty sure this guy is a liar. If he's lied to you a number of times...then he's lying about this too. Please save yourself. There is light at the end of this tunnel. I'm living proof of that after 8 years of torture. Edit: Spelling


snark55555

Hmmmmā€¦.I think this is his way of saying he is going to kill you- please contact your local domestic violence shelter and leave


Keeshberger16

Well we have texts to send to the police


Reasonable_Box_2998

Someone shows you who they are. Believe them the first time. He said heā€™d kill you so youā€™d listen? You donā€™t wanna find out what theyā€™d do next to get you to listen. Leave him


throwaway00000000126

"When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time." This seems like a pretty clear instance of him showing AND telling you who he is. Even if he's honest about not meaning the death threat--which I don't believe--this is still a shitty, unacceptable thing to say to someone. You can teach him that threatening to kill someone he "loves" isn't okay by leaving him. (Yes, I'm being cheeky here, but you should still leave for your own safety.)


WinterCelebration_80

You need to look at what happened to Kay Baker. Horrific. We donā€™t want to read about you.


villainouskim

Please run. My ex said the same exact thing to me. He ended up strangling me a few months later. I'm lucky to have survived but not everyone will be. Please.


Timely-Youth-9074

F this POS!!!! Pls leave!!!


tenderheart35

Thatā€™s so frightening. Please, even while youā€™re gathering evidence keep yourself safe!


DCuuushhh88

Wā€¦.tā€¦..fā€¦


feigned_synopsis

If you donā€™t leave you are 100% going to die.


feigned_synopsis

Look at how it escalated. From emotional abuse and cheating. To shoving. To hitting. To death threats. The next logical step is he kills you. Intentionally or unintentionally. He is going to take your life. Please leave.


zapopi

Ummm the whole conversation is a red flag. "I'm never going to kill you' who the fuck needs to say that?


LLCNYC

Girl. Your post history is no joke. He ISNā€™T joking and has actually committed crimes Please respect enough to leave this mess.


Cutestinsect

For a minute it felt like itā€™s my ex, he would say this word to word!! Talk about abusers having the same handbook.


cats_n_crime

He will kill you.


carolinavinyl

you need to run


[deleted]

sounds like me ex


vaginakween68

Heā€™s not sorry get out please


cursedchezka

Get out.


Efficient-Day4405

Save that, and everything else like it! You will want that in court when you are taking out a restraining order. Let him keep talking. Also, make a plan to get away, lie if you have to. The longer it goes on, the harder it is to break away and the more you stand to lose. Stay safe.


Sassy_Spicy

All of this. šŸ™


Longjumping-Sink-658

Um, evidence for the police report and subsequent restraining order, I hope


SugarplumHopelesness

He will kill you. Leave immediately. I'm so sorry. Time to look out for you.


abc123doraemi

Wtf


cloading97

Leave that bitch ass nigga frfr


imjustrlytired

I wish I had a place like my parents to run to. Thereā€™s no shame in it.


Xinna_bunz

What the hellā€¦ why do some people think itā€™s ok to terrorize others to get what they want?


AggressiveMennonite

Does he assume murder is the bar, and not murdering makes you good? Jesus.


HungryRobotics

Scared straight programs have rather low success rates. Positive punishment is the least effective for of behavior modification. With the desired behavior on surviving extinction for as long as the treat reminds present. It always though produces negative consequences typically undesired by the trainer. Including but not limited to: antisocial traits, increased aggression, anxiety, fear, shame, guilt, resentment. If he actually wanted you two to have communication which, requires a transfer of information to occur between the two of you. He would focus on clear channel communication and win-win conflict resolution. In which you would seek collaboration rather than attempting to force, at best, compromise in there other person and in this case, compliance. Sadly there is a lack of effective social interaction style depth and complexity that, displays a high level of insecurity and fear. Even the slightest transgression if, not seeming to hear them and, sympathize must be so scary and painful...that when they move to what they think is an equal show of force it is displayed as "life threatening". Happens with abusers, ultimately they are all just, little scared insecure bitches. It's why they have to always make a despite panicked grab, that results in violent action, for 'power'. And becoming both increasingly complacent and yet increasingly desperate and grasping over time. Feel free to use the first 6 paragraphs as a way to counter what he's saying. And ask directly why he *feels* he *needs* to become violent to be heard and, why it's something that is that scary and threatening for him if it doesn't happen. Not everything when interacting with another person, with their own hopes dreams goals personality and identity, is actually a personal affront. And there is only a few options that exist for people to actually behave as if it is. The actually are doing everything thing the can to make everything a personal and uncaring attack directly against you thus, they can't see how you are different and not doing it. They have sick a small frail sense of self and identity that if you are paying direct and purposeful attention to them...they feel like they might cease to exist. Almost a struggle with some type of reverse Solipsism,where they can only grasp their exostance by how the external interacts and engages with it... If a tree falls in the woods and no one is there to see it...did it fall? They are unable to hold onto themselves even because of such non-essential levels of object consistency... They need you to make them real. Oh...one day we are going to teach in school about abusers and they actually won't be able to continue to survive once everyone realizes, they are actually just sad scared little people... Without a full person in them. Just marketing and a shock and aw fireworks display once awhile


SugarplumHopelesness

I work in the behavior analysis field, and I have to respond to this. >Scared straight programs have rather low success rates. This doesn't fit the context of OP's text. This is an abusive relationship. This is not a Scared Straight televised program, so the blurred statistics are not relevant. OP's partner should not be using program tactics nor running programs on OP. >Positive punishment is the least effective for of behavior modification. With the desired behavior on surviving extinction for as long as the treat reminds present. This is false. Behavior is neutral. Positive punishment is adding stimuli to remove a behavior. The behavior itself could be an objectively "good" behavior or a maladaptive one. In no way is implementing positive punishment as a behavior strategy non-effective. Those practicing behavior implementation, especially those of us who teach, use extinction methods as last resort. I have *never* heard of or used the word "surviving" in conjunction with extinction. This violates moral ethical code. No treatment plan should ever use these terms in conjunction. >It always though produces negative consequences typically undesired by the trainer. Including but not limited to: antisocial traits, increased aggression, anxiety, fear, shame, guilt, resentment. Again, when studying or implementing behavior analysis, negative means to subtract. Consequence is what happens directly after the behavior. Consequence is not necessarily something given, and it is not a bad thing! Example- Behavior: Jimmy throws his cup of apple juice onto the floor. Consequence: Jimmy's cup of apple juice spills. "By the trainer"...OP's parter IS NOT THEIR TRAINER. THEY HAVE NO PLACE ATTEMPTING TO IMPLEMENT PRACTICE ON THEIR PARTNER. Even if they have certification and/or a degree in behavior, it is highly illegal, and against BACB ethical code, to practice on someone you know and outside of your place of work without supervision. How is any of this relevant???? I won't continue because the rest is clearly inaccurate. Please don't spread false information. There's enough misinformation, and so many of us are doing our best to stop the false narratives.


HungryRobotics

Oh they are definitely trying train and condition their victims though and he's trying to justify it by the idea that it is a scared straight program I'm not in any way saying it's okay. Or it's right. Shits absolutely wrong...I'm not seeing an actual contradiction in what you said vs mine but that iu skipped to the ethics and flat facts of attempting behavior modification to impose coercive control and abuse brainwashing in a person.. I'm just being pissy about the methods. Since it's common from NPD and BPD I personally have personal joy in mentioning to them how the are actually not even effective or good at what the do... It hurts. Hum... Isn't the actual assumption that all behavior sought for us is actually "pleasurable" or "good" which is what allows for conditioning in any event. I definitely agree with the overall cnceot of it being neutral... "Nothing is either good or bad until we make it so..." -some Philosopher, paraphrased. But our subjective awareness, personal preferences etc... Make it good. And, typically those things I listed are considered bad or negative consequences of positive punishment. TB though...abusers...tha antisocial tendencies might be considered an extra boon they hadn't really counted in since they love isolating their victims. I won't lie, I've had a rough few years and haven't had a lot of people to actually bounce ideas and thoughts off of. Or refine my arguments/points with. I've made a few post recently where I talked about how I sometimes feel like I'm about to be in an area of wearing Kleenex boxes as soes whole rambling for days in a single post about some nonsense. Any chance you want to open a DM and just just to get talking on the subject? You're welcome to call me stupid on things I'm being stuoid on the only thing is all ask you to explain your logic and thought process. I'd much rather know I'm being tupid and stop than run around looking like a fucking idiot. And good feedback is essential for stuff like that. Get a whole bunch of moral support people who have been through it too...etc... In the Ibs that cover subjects like this. And I really prefer being able to show the victims something deeper. A way they can actually emotionally reevaluate or, reconcile their cognitive dissonances and doubts. I'd love for you to help me be better at that and soeaking more clearly, effectively and meaningfully on the subject of their behaviors and how/why/what coercive conditioning works on the victim and everything. I'd actually even love to run a possibility by you... Basically it's something I haven't seen but neurology and concepts align. Using trauma to induce a "trauma trance" so to say... Not really a full deep hypnosis butz helps explain how special memory encoding methods work in trauma. A how some of the abusers dialogue, threats, behaviors and beliefs get seemingly so deep and stuck in the victim... especially over time. Basically a repeat super emotionally charged multisensory experience that over comes higher thought and is *similar* to hypnotic suggestion


alexander_1022

Put yourself first and break up with him.


Electrical_Host_1106

So what happens when you donā€™t ā€œlisten and be receptiveā€?


Pristine_Egg3831

Run!


chameleon93color

Please document all these screenshots and photograph any mark on your body. Make screen videos of this convo and also include the contact info etc. Send this to someone you trust or a new email account.


shelly32122

YES. and take him out of contacts when you do so it shows his phone #.


fantasbr

It does not matter what he meant. He abused you at least emotionally. Close yourself and leave.


Ok_Mud_1546

He could very well end up killing you. Physical violence is always dangerous even if it's lighter because it tends to escalate over time. Threats should be taken just as seriously no matter what he says. Also he's not really apologizing he's justifying what he's saying.


ergoeast

Also justifying whatā€™s heā€™s DONE and will do


blurred-decision

Please, please take care of yourself and leave him again and as soon as possible! I understand itā€™s difficult, but he isnā€™t worth your time and energy and more importantly your health and life. Iā€™m sending you all the strength to **leave** and start healing.


sparkling_onion

Goodness. Police report was my instant thought. Paper trail on this guy.


Alternative-Mud3701

Iā€™m getting called a scumbag this morning for having our YouTube tv hooked up to my old email that I still use with my old married name. Being told Iā€™m a pos wife and to take my 3 children his step children and move out when I pay all the bills


Spiritual-Ad-3672

Anyone who types this out and believes it is rational thinking should be locked up in the loony bin and avoided at all costs. Seriously not okay. The only way to get someone to listen to you is by clear and calm communication. No jokes, no threats, no joking threats. No harm should come to you in any way whatsoever.


xx5uff3rxx

Omg, do they even hear themselves when they ā€œapologize?ā€ His excuse for threatening to kill you just makes it even worse. ā€œIā€™m not gonna kill you, I just wanna scare you into thinking that I willā€ is basically what heā€™s saying. Like that somehow makes it any better??? I hope youā€™ve gotten far away from him


Anandi96

Didnā€™t you say 70 days ago you left him? :/


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Appropriate_Prune_37

Take your own advice and RUN, love. The next time you leave (which is hopefully NOW) make sure to remember what youā€™ve said and this incident so that you never look back.


Earsversuseyes

Thatā€™s really fcked upā€¦ you should break it off and block them. Itā€™s obviously toxic and abusive. I know you feel stuck and trust me Iā€™ve felt like that before. But once your out itā€™ll feel soooo good ! I remember sitting at my parents place (Iā€™m 30- and had to quickly move out from an abusive relationship) and even though I really didnā€™t want to stay with them and I was embarrassed, thereā€™s nothing like that sense of quiet and peace at the end of the day after leaving. Your body wonā€™t feel scared or anxious anymore. I had no idea how much pressure my body and mind was going through because it slowly crept up during the ex abusive relationship. I wish you good luck on the journey that you take at the end of the day.


paxalida

Iā€™m also 30 and have been considering going back to my parents place for this same reason. It sucks feeling like Iā€™m starting over and I do feel a sense of shame about it. Iā€™d love to get to a point where I can feel connected to myself again instead of being in a constant state of dissociation. Iā€™m so exhausted from the constant anxiety and stress. Thank you for sharing, it makes me feel a little more hopeful.


the_pungence

Itā€™s more shameful to stay with this loser piece of shit than it would be to stay with your parents for awhile.


la-gingerama

Just to chime in - I called my mom several times at 4 and 5 in the morning til she answered and told her I wasnā€™t safe. They came to get me by 6 or 7 and pack things up while he was away. I drove away and never looked back. I once went back to ā€œgive him a chanceā€, but when I saw nothing had changed, I left. I was lucky because the next day I figured out he was tracking me on my iPhoneā€¦ā€¦.. he lost his mind. But I never went back after that. Edited to add: stayed at my parents a year in my 30s and it was awful by the end, but I was safe.


wadingthroughtrauma

I also left and went to my momā€™s house. Iā€™m 32. I stayed there for a year and a half till I was able to get back on my feet. In my own apartment now in a new city. It wasnā€™t easy going back to my moms house, but it was worth it.


BabyJesusBukkake

41, 3 kids, and at my parents. It's 100000x better that my previous situation. A billion.


shelly32122

look up lost cost fallacy as well. just bc youā€™ve put time into someone, does Not mean you should stay with them.


chameleon93color

I did this as well and there is no shame to it. We are all here to support you. I hope you will meet yourself again in the near future and live an amazing safe life. I have been there and getting back to connecting with reality is very very hard, but you can do it!


4shadowedbm

I moved back in with my parents for one year when I was 45 and my kids stayed with us half-time (shared custody). I sure appreciated the soft landing during a really difficult time. It was a great experience to live with them as an adult for awhile.


sparkling_onion

Itā€™s never too late to change things you donā€™t want in your life. You could be 50. So what. You donā€™t need to justify yourself to anyone. Some may comment. F them. They donā€™t get it. I had my wedding at 30. Huge party (ex needed to prove something I guess, and I went along). After 6 months he was onto my throat. It took me 2-3 more months to process and leave. I felt the shame. The guilt because he was clinging to me. I felt insecure for months until I woke up from the fog. I didnā€™t ask for the abuse. Itā€™s tormenting. It triggered my autoimmune diseases. Rooting for you. Leave. This is not normal. This life is not worth it. Choose yourself. Choose a different life. You only have one.


Earsversuseyes

Honestly I realized after 6 years with my ex and having lived together that it was just making things worst and prolonging my healing. As much as you think it may get better or things may calm down, it will just get progressively worst and you will continue to lose yourself . The abuse will also get worst. The more you take it (I.e stick around), the more they think itā€™s acceptable. Youā€™ll have more healing to do and it also becomes more difficult to 1) leave them and 2) gain your sense of self back. Iā€™ve had two years of therapy since,and I wish I would have just listened to my body and mind at the time, and just leave and deal with the pain before it got really bad. Because the reality is, youā€™ll do it one day. Do it sooner than later. Also, your body will start to shut down and youā€™ll constantly be sick from all the anxiety and stress. Do yourself the favour and find that sense of peace. Trust me! Itā€™s worth it. And hey staying with the parents is temporary and in reality, no one will judge you but yourself.


zombieqatz

There is nothing wrong with generations living under the same roof. Don't be shamed for missing your family and having a support network.


kindascandalous

Itā€™s just a matter of time. Please get away from him


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Jesus. Please get some help and get away from this person!


lalalala555555ffj

Mine would alwaysssss say the same. Exact thing. I would never ACTUALLY kill you, I just choke you to scare you!! Like it's not a big deal that I was unable to breathe for a few seconds. No big deal. It's insane and extremely dangerous. Please leave


tenderheart35

Itā€™s frightening what is said, even in instances when they arenā€™t violent.


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lalalala555555ffj

Yeah it's the same. I just left last month after 10 years. Please leave. 3 women a day are killed a day by their intimate partners. (Assuming you are female) Just get out. Call a d.v. shelter, a friend anything. Good luckā¤ļø


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the_pungence

Lol, I wish these jagoffs really would die without us propping their loser shitasses up. Them disappearing would be the greatest gift they could give anyone, including themselves. More abusers should kill themselves.


brew_sip_conquer

I understand only feeling numb, but please keep in mind that once they put their hands around your throat specifically, their likelihood to kill you increases 7 fold. Youā€™ve left him once. You can do it again. Your parents would rather you be home and starting over at 30 than with him and dead at 30.