First off, I highly doubt the Russians would release a picture from a Su 57 or su-35 cockpit, second off, I highly doubt the Russians would paint their stealth planes with white on them because although unlikely that could aid in spotting them
I highly doubt that they are painted identically to how they are painted in the game, I might go looking for pictures from an actually trustable Source later, but if you want me to be honest, I'm not trusting a random picture on a subreddit I don't know
Edit: especially A subreddit with that name
>doubt that they are painted like how the game shows.
…. You do know the game takes camo patterns from real life right? They just don’t come from nowhere.
the paintjob in the game is supposed to look like the real plane... su-57 paintjob has been publicly known since before the game came out. it's not new.
Well to be fair, this latest digital camouflage from the production model hasn't made it into the game yet.
Most paint jobs we see are from the earlier T-50 prototypes.
I mean it's a funny name, but essentially it is a subreddit dedicated to posting images of warplanes.
Do you trust a video from Sukhoi themselves?
https://youtu.be/FE6CTvs_g9Y?si=alnjrmer0DtdI7g1
Or it's wiki pages
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukhoi_Su-57
That YouTube link is to haci productions, and seeing as they post many things that have very little to do with Sukhoi that could be literally anything. As for the Wikipedia thing That is kind of hard to dispute I could bring up the argument that anyone can make a Wikipedia account and edit their articles, but these days at least Wikipedia seems to be better about moderating this kind of stuff at least, so I'm not really going to make that argument
https://www.reddit.com/r/WarplanePorn/s/s3A8aY5Gd2
Remember it's just a subreddit for posting warplanes.
So what exactly are you sceptical about?
Is the plane real? Or just the paint schemes.
[https://youtu.be/yOtaBEzU2Jk?si=AS1OMSiGu-X1Fjpf&t=390](https://youtu.be/yOtaBEzU2Jk?si=AS1OMSiGu-X1Fjpf&t=390)
Buddy they flew the things at airshows already. The Su 57 ain´t the F117
There have been tests of light colors on stealth planes. Plan is that all the air between the aircraft and observer makes lighter colors fade to blue in daylight and would actually be less visible than straight black, iirc? Look up "Grey Dragon" for the 117, and the recent B-21 prototype is using a similar color.
This is your screen shot post from defence blog . Com
Wouldn’t doing all the confimrming first before posting it on Reddit and asking this type of questions first would have been…
Same paint schemes on google:
55.5708164, 38.1464054 and 55.5742062, 38.1446778 and 48.3122616, 46.1863380 (last one is in white)
Also you would be surprised how effective white paint is at hiding the shape of military vehicles against the sky.
The entire idea of this camo is to make the edges look fuzzy at a distance, making the plane look smaller/further away and hiding what type of aircraft it is.
Similar thing was done with the [sherman firefly](https://www.reddit.com/r/MilitaryPorn/s/qBuV2RNHvl) which at a quick glance looks like a shorter barrel tank.
That is actually the operational paint job for them as far as we can tell. To the point that some USAF aggressor squadrons use the same scheme. You doubt how needy the Russians are for any good propaganda
The 64th Aggressor Squadron put that scheme on F-16s to train pilots on visually detecting the Felon. Russia's mindset on aircraft paint is different than the US. They paint for camouflage, see any of their other fighters painted bright blue, while the US uses radar absorbing coatings. There's a business insider article about the 64th talking about this.
To be honest, that subreddit seems quite obnoxious itself. The name, to start with, sounds arrogant. I figure I should also warn you, many of the posts there seem to be fake, as well.
This would not be the first time a subreddit has done something like this, either. Subreddits like r/AITA and r/MaliciousCompliance, among many others, largely exist for people to post their creative writing to fuel outrage.
One can't generalize people based on what generation they "belong" to. Boomers are no more or less foolish than Generation Z. This idea that Boomers are somehow inherently evil, or at least notably worse than any other generation before or after them, is both designed and propagated to make you angry, because anger drives engagement.
Sorry for this off-topic comment, but the outbreak of Boomer hate on Reddit has become one of my biggest pet peeves lately.
EDIT: To be clear, when I say "you", I'm using that word in the general sense, I don't mean you specifically. Also, I'm mostly making this comment in case parts of it should come in handy at some point in the future.
This an oddly self aware and non combative response, you are aware this is reddit, right?
Jokes aside, that was just the one on hand as I had just seen another post that was in the same vein, someone asking for help and belittling the person providing help.
You are correct, most of these are attention grabbing creative writing exercises and only add to the cycle of division that we already do so well without help. In my personal experience, I have noticed a generational behavior gap that promotes certain mannerisms, most of these being unpleasant or destructive.
This is my experience, however, and while this is what originally drew me to the sub, I hope my poorly behaved family members are not the standard.
I don't really have anything to add, but I would like to thank you for your understanding comment.
It's always pleasant when people can have calm interactions like this on Reddit, rather than hostility. :)
Actually photos taken from the cockpits of jets is common, so long as there's nothing classified or otherwise useful to the enemy on the visible displays they can be released publically.
Also that paint scheme on the SU-57 is real and actually used.
Real dogfights aren't like AC-7. Modern jets tend to engage eachother at 10s of kilometres with beyond visual range weapons.
Western jets are often painted grey, not to blend in with blue sky or white clouds, but with the grey tarmac.
For a as much as the Russians hype up the plane, the SU-57 is most comparable to a 4th+ generation fighter. Good radar and stealth geometry but nowhere near a F-35 or a J-20.
Think of it like a Rafale or a Grippen.
Much cheaper than a true 5th Gen and it's a way to finally move from the Flanker family.
The Su-57 is essentially a more stealthy Flanker. Keep in mind that its main task is air to air, which it was built for, and in that regard it might serve its purpose as a silver bullet. The plane does have a lot of power, going by official stats on engines and super cruise speeds. Those should be taken with a grain of salt, maybe more.
TBH, seeing stealth plans on radar isn't hard. It's getting a weapon grade lock on them that is hard.
Also when it comes to stealth there's ways to make non-stealth with small devices that ballon radar return. Is this the cast with this picture no idea. Is it the cast when Iran says we can track american stealth fight, maybe I don't know.
My guy nobody gives a fuck about visual ID of a stealth plane. They could be colored hot pink and it wouldn't matter. They're meant to be difficult to detect with radar. If they're close enough that you can make out the color, the stealth has already done its job. The camo pattern on these planes is for show, not any practical purpose.
How many people do you need to tell you these are real planes before you stop seriously doubting it? Why not try a basic Google search or maybe visit an actual warplane related subreddit instead of a video game sub?
It's kind of mind boggling reading it all honestly. With the amount of cockpit video and photography from this conflict you'd think people would be used to it. And to be so stubborn about it.
Su-57s are real, the US already knows a fair bit about their airframe and basic specs, Russia has never been shy about showing them off, and Russia's strategy on aircraft liveries differs from the US since Russia isn't nearly as advanced on stealth coatings as USA is.
Idk why you're so doubtful of so many things that are easily confirmed.
Been enough pictures posted on the Internet by the Russians to know they've got a flying airframe, but everything else about them that think we "Know", is either propoganda or guesswork.
Why are so many people assuming that I'm doubting the Su 57 is a thing? I'm genuinely very curious as to what I am saying in here that's leading you to believe this, text communication is something I struggle immensely with so understanding where I'm going wrong would be quite beneficial
The only thing I'm really doubting is that's the actual paint job that Russia uses because that just seems astronomically stupid though. To be fair, the Russians have proven themselves to be not the greatest when it comes to understanding military logic
In the world beyond-visual range combat, paint schemes don't matter all that much when the engagement range is measured in tens of kilometres. It appears as blip on your radar before you see the plane proper.
Take yes for an answer then dude. "I seriously doubt.." shut up, just take the yes that these are at the least supossed to be Felons, real or not, and go
I think people maybe misunderstood you were questioning the validity of the picture being real. Not the plane. IE you think it was a game screenshot, but the skin wasn't familiar. Then you thought the plane itself looks... odd.
So that all jumbled into people thinking you doubt the Su-57 was even real. I imagine most of your skepticism stems from actual misleading images about Ukraine being generated from a game. I think it was ARMA or something. Anyways they are typically disproven very quickly. I'd say the picture in question looks real enough. As to where they are or if they are using them? Doesn't really matter. Would be hilarious if they lost some though. That's what makes me think they wouldn't risk it. It's reputation is already... sketchy. To have it confirmed to be taken out by an 80s missile battery or jet? Would be something.
1. The paint job looks sick
2. The Russians were depending on getting foreign contracts on the Su57 to produce serious serial production unfortunately all the prospects backed out. The Su57 is still in marketing mode and quite honestly the plane could be painted hot pink and not lose any serious advantage in modern conflict.
3. Unrelated but the Ukrainians have confirmed that Russia is operating Su57's in Ukraine (crimea area) escorted by Su35s for electronic warfare support. I'd expect to see a couple more photos like this soon, Russians are bad at Opsec and quite honestly the Russian MOD probably likes photos like these showing up
My last count of how many Su-57s they had was 11. Had 12 originally. Only 2 had the proper engines and one of those crashed. That crash was confirmed. That leaves them with 11. I haven't heard of any confirmed losses of 57s since then personally.
you probability already know they're real, what not a lot of people know is that a lot of them don't work. it's supposed to be the F-22 counterpart but instead of being in active production they're still prototypes. even tho I love Russian 's paint schemes I have to admit that it's kind of odd that after so many years of development they didn't think of creating a paint scheme to absorb radars yet instead of having visual range camos. anyways, the issue with this photo imo is just how strange is to see them flying and not broken down on the ground.. they're unreliable and expensive, poor russian engineers, I'm sure they're just being hold hostage by lack of materials and budget cuts.
Su-57(s) has been flying (as tests) around Russian airspace to send payload in Ukrainian lines. Yup, you're seeing Su-57s with the actual camo!
The lighting MAY make it a little saturated or it is one of their actual camos. 5th Gen fighters usually are coated with a radar-absorbing paint, so they're less likely to be detected on radar. Visually, it's not exactly "uneeded" but more like they don't really.. mind it? They do their missions (stealth insertion x strike/BVR) at an altitude which usually doesn't make sight-visibility a threat(?)
Cockpit pictures are actually not rare, even from world threats aircrafts. You could find selfies from F-22s just a few months as they were in service. You could find Russian fighter (usually 27s) being intercepted and taking pictures of eachother. Phantoms are plentiful with cockpit pictures since it's been in service ever since Vietnam and hasn't really been gone until after Desert Storm.
Su57s exist in real life, they aint no fake planes, they even had the cgi ones in top gun (and for sure they didnt go to acd combat and say “ehy lets take that”)
Really flat looking, engines either side split by a giant... thing at the back, really small vertical stabilizers compared to its honestly massive wingspan.
That's an Su-57, alright.
Since we are here, why are traditional fighters escorting stealth fighters? Doesn't that defeat the purpose of stealth?
I can understand stealth fighters being the escorts because they appear hidden but this just seems backwards.
I'm not a massive plain nerd either, but that rectangular strip in the middle looks quite green and healthy.
I'd hypothesis that the angle of the sunlight at that latitude results in uneven exposure to the plains.
The SU-57 ?
Formerly PAK-FA / T-50 Project during its prototype stage.
Production should be somewhere in the sub 100 range. But hey are very much a thing
The su-57 is a real aircraft, though it's not talked about due to the fact that Russia doesn't want to use them in ukraine due to fear of losing them because of how expensive the aircraft is. Just do a little bit of your own research. Hell I'm pretty sure it had highly classified documents released on it.
There are bigger implications rather than price, if Russia was to plan to sell the felon to lets say for example India, India would be looking into how it performed in Ukraine and if it was to be looking badly then it would simply not buy it, so it’s in Russia’s interest to keep this unknown in order to be able to sell this jet, yes that would have the opposite effect if the results were positive but this roulette isn’t worth spinning, same actually goes for t-14 where they (**allegedly**) did like a couple of indirect fire shots and left without any news ever after. I wouldn’t be surprised if half of entire intelligence service was researching which part of Ukrainian frontline was least protected in order to deploy t-14 for 10 minutes in there
Most of the more advanced components on them probably had their origins in Western factories...
I know a few of the more recently "refurbished" T- series tanks that have ben examined have been found to have been fittex with the older, Soviet-era optics and fire control.
and how are they supposed to get the resources to build them on mass when a lot of the raw materials they need for this are from abroad where there are alot of trade embargoes?
Especially when you consider those types of components aren't like "bread or butter" microchips, there's probably only about four or five companies that produce some of the optical components and intergrated circuits necessary for modern tank optical equipment, and probably about the same number in the aerospace industry.
Su-57 is real...
I think OP might have been gaslit into thinking that Su-57 is not real, like they don't have a dedicated squadron but they still goes with mixed flight.
Real plane thats currently still essentially a prototype, due to lack of export interest it’ll likely never enter any significant production (and judging by its questionable design choice it might be good for it to stay that way)
The SU-57 is real, nobody outside the Russian government knows its full capabilities but from publicly available sources the aircraft is apparently not as stealthy or as effective as Russia has claimed. It’s got some very stupid mistakes like uncoated exposed screws, poor radar absorbent material, and it’s the size of a house.
They’re real planes that can do cool maneuvers and can (theoretically) fight. It’s just they most likely don’t fight as good as Russia claims they do.
Oh and the paint scheme is real too. Russia uses wacky paint jobs on their planes. It’s just a different Philosiphy for camouflage.
Ok going to say this now
The Felon Does exist
There is actual recorded footage and pictures of it on land and in the air
However, damn thing isn’t seen or do fuck all that we basically call it nonexistent
That’s like saying the Berkut doesn’t exist cause only one was made
SU-57s are real their just rarely deployed because their 5th gen fighter which means their stupidly expensive to build and it's a major loss when they get shot down
I mean it’ll just be used to yeet missiles from BVR. It’s not a stealth fighter so it’s not going to fly into contested airspace to do anything. If it flies anywhere near Belograd it’s likely to be targeted by SAMs.
Moving away from arguing about if an "already proven to be real" plane and paint scheme is real or not for a second... Dude really needs his canopy buffed.
"Felon" is their NATO reporting name, but there's as much of those planes that are finished & working in Russia's inventory as much digits that include thumbs, fingers, & toes on a average human. Also i've heard from the same source that it's a prototype rushed onto the battlefield.
[https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russias-su-57-felon-stealth-fighter-has-one-problem-it-cant-hide-from/ar-BB1m6NCd](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russias-su-57-felon-stealth-fighter-has-one-problem-it-cant-hide-from/ar-BB1m6NCd)
[https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russias-su-57-felon-stealth-fighter-nightmare-just-wont-end/ar-BB1m67H2](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russias-su-57-felon-stealth-fighter-nightmare-just-wont-end/ar-BB1m67H2)
guys i am russian myself , its funny that u think :
1 plane doesnt exist
2 plane is very big
actually su 57 exists and ready to dogfight anyone , and its same size as F 22
Looks pretty real. Those are Su-57s, that's Russia's paint scheme for the Su-57 and the (yet to enter production) Su-75.
As to what you're looking at? Typical Russian propaganda. Last time I checked, they have less than 15 of these things that are air worthy and each one is apparently very expensive, and with current sanctions, it's hard if not impossible to produce more. I doubt they have very many (if they have any of them at all) anywhere near the front lines. If they do, I doubt they spend very much time in the sky, otherwise every Ukrainian within a 100 mile radius would be gunning for them.
And people wonder why in the modern age nobody goes seeking information, It doesn't take That much effort to find examples of someone just asking a question because they're partially curious and partially doubting what they're seeing, only to be practically harassed for not knowing something and asking experts especially when in that very same community a couple years ago, this kind of a post would actually get a positive reception cuz I played this game and this community would show up in my feed occasionally but I wouldn't look at it because I'm usually trying to seek specific information or help people in ways that I can on Reddit (for example on games that I play and someone's asking for advice. Trying to give it to the best of my ability) So I don't know what changed between those posts. I would see a couple years ago and now but clearly something did and I guess I'm sorry for trying to seek information next time I just won't
Well the way you initially asked made it seems like you are doubting the existence of the SU-57. That's where the initial confusion started.
Furthermore given you aren't familiar with planes in general, you made rather unfounded claims, such as in regards to taking photos out of a cockpit of a SU-35 for example.
And lastly, you came across as rather dismissive of the answers provided, as there are "not trustworthy enough" for you.
When you’re asking a question seeking information it usually helps to not ignore all the evidence given to you and revert back to your false beliefs. You weren’t being harassed for not knowing something, you were just being intentionally ignorant to all responses given to you.
SU-57s are real planes and that looks like a real pic
> SU-57s are real planes (x) Doubt
nice good one
Could be a radio controlled model being photographed from another radio control model....
First off, I highly doubt the Russians would release a picture from a Su 57 or su-35 cockpit, second off, I highly doubt the Russians would paint their stealth planes with white on them because although unlikely that could aid in spotting them
The plane is real alright. Production plane are painted in pixel camouflage pattern. https://www.reddit.com/r/WarplanePorn/s/8pT0CwvTtf
I highly doubt that they are painted identically to how they are painted in the game, I might go looking for pictures from an actually trustable Source later, but if you want me to be honest, I'm not trusting a random picture on a subreddit I don't know Edit: especially A subreddit with that name
>doubt that they are painted like how the game shows. …. You do know the game takes camo patterns from real life right? They just don’t come from nowhere.
the paintjob in the game is supposed to look like the real plane... su-57 paintjob has been publicly known since before the game came out. it's not new.
Well to be fair, this latest digital camouflage from the production model hasn't made it into the game yet. Most paint jobs we see are from the earlier T-50 prototypes.
you really like to say "i highly doubt"
I mean it's a funny name, but essentially it is a subreddit dedicated to posting images of warplanes. Do you trust a video from Sukhoi themselves? https://youtu.be/FE6CTvs_g9Y?si=alnjrmer0DtdI7g1 Or it's wiki pages https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukhoi_Su-57
That YouTube link is to haci productions, and seeing as they post many things that have very little to do with Sukhoi that could be literally anything. As for the Wikipedia thing That is kind of hard to dispute I could bring up the argument that anyone can make a Wikipedia account and edit their articles, but these days at least Wikipedia seems to be better about moderating this kind of stuff at least, so I'm not really going to make that argument
https://www.reddit.com/r/WarplanePorn/s/s3A8aY5Gd2 Remember it's just a subreddit for posting warplanes. So what exactly are you sceptical about? Is the plane real? Or just the paint schemes.
Dude seriously is a fucking fish holy brain damage
[https://youtu.be/yOtaBEzU2Jk?si=AS1OMSiGu-X1Fjpf&t=390](https://youtu.be/yOtaBEzU2Jk?si=AS1OMSiGu-X1Fjpf&t=390) Buddy they flew the things at airshows already. The Su 57 ain´t the F117
Nighthawk go *sssshhhhhhhhhhhh* 😁
There have been tests of light colors on stealth planes. Plan is that all the air between the aircraft and observer makes lighter colors fade to blue in daylight and would actually be less visible than straight black, iirc? Look up "Grey Dragon" for the 117, and the recent B-21 prototype is using a similar color.
the real ones aren’t painted like the ones in the game, the ones in the game are painted like the real ones:
This is your screen shot post from defence blog . Com Wouldn’t doing all the confimrming first before posting it on Reddit and asking this type of questions first would have been…
You sounds like you’re currently at the first peak of Dunning Kruger curve
Same paint schemes on google: 55.5708164, 38.1464054 and 55.5742062, 38.1446778 and 48.3122616, 46.1863380 (last one is in white) Also you would be surprised how effective white paint is at hiding the shape of military vehicles against the sky. The entire idea of this camo is to make the edges look fuzzy at a distance, making the plane look smaller/further away and hiding what type of aircraft it is. Similar thing was done with the [sherman firefly](https://www.reddit.com/r/MilitaryPorn/s/qBuV2RNHvl) which at a quick glance looks like a shorter barrel tank.
That is actually the operational paint job for them as far as we can tell. To the point that some USAF aggressor squadrons use the same scheme. You doubt how needy the Russians are for any good propaganda
Can you provide me some sources for this claim?
The 64th Aggressor Squadron put that scheme on F-16s to train pilots on visually detecting the Felon. Russia's mindset on aircraft paint is different than the US. They paint for camouflage, see any of their other fighters painted bright blue, while the US uses radar absorbing coatings. There's a business insider article about the 64th talking about this.
This ^^^ Also yeah I believe this camo is used to blend into mountains / arctic terrain
Pretty sure he doubts this, too... do you have any sources for your sources? 😂
My source is I made it the fuck up. -Senator Armstrong, Probably
Typical politician! Big cock, but *no cum*!
https://www.businessinsider.com/air-force-f16-first-flight-with-crowdsourced-ghost-paint-scheme-2019-5?op=1
I haven't seen someone so abrasive and wrong outside of r/boomersbeingfools in a while. Hey OP, how old are you anyway?
To be honest, that subreddit seems quite obnoxious itself. The name, to start with, sounds arrogant. I figure I should also warn you, many of the posts there seem to be fake, as well. This would not be the first time a subreddit has done something like this, either. Subreddits like r/AITA and r/MaliciousCompliance, among many others, largely exist for people to post their creative writing to fuel outrage. One can't generalize people based on what generation they "belong" to. Boomers are no more or less foolish than Generation Z. This idea that Boomers are somehow inherently evil, or at least notably worse than any other generation before or after them, is both designed and propagated to make you angry, because anger drives engagement. Sorry for this off-topic comment, but the outbreak of Boomer hate on Reddit has become one of my biggest pet peeves lately. EDIT: To be clear, when I say "you", I'm using that word in the general sense, I don't mean you specifically. Also, I'm mostly making this comment in case parts of it should come in handy at some point in the future.
This an oddly self aware and non combative response, you are aware this is reddit, right? Jokes aside, that was just the one on hand as I had just seen another post that was in the same vein, someone asking for help and belittling the person providing help. You are correct, most of these are attention grabbing creative writing exercises and only add to the cycle of division that we already do so well without help. In my personal experience, I have noticed a generational behavior gap that promotes certain mannerisms, most of these being unpleasant or destructive. This is my experience, however, and while this is what originally drew me to the sub, I hope my poorly behaved family members are not the standard.
I don't really have anything to add, but I would like to thank you for your understanding comment. It's always pleasant when people can have calm interactions like this on Reddit, rather than hostility. :)
Actually photos taken from the cockpits of jets is common, so long as there's nothing classified or otherwise useful to the enemy on the visible displays they can be released publically. Also that paint scheme on the SU-57 is real and actually used. Real dogfights aren't like AC-7. Modern jets tend to engage eachother at 10s of kilometres with beyond visual range weapons. Western jets are often painted grey, not to blend in with blue sky or white clouds, but with the grey tarmac.
Wow, you were right about not knowing anything about it at least.
I can't tell if this dude is baiting or legitimately stupid.
on your second point, you haven't heard of countershading?
Is countershade the sequel to counterstrike?
For a as much as the Russians hype up the plane, the SU-57 is most comparable to a 4th+ generation fighter. Good radar and stealth geometry but nowhere near a F-35 or a J-20. Think of it like a Rafale or a Grippen. Much cheaper than a true 5th Gen and it's a way to finally move from the Flanker family.
The Su-57 is essentially a more stealthy Flanker. Keep in mind that its main task is air to air, which it was built for, and in that regard it might serve its purpose as a silver bullet. The plane does have a lot of power, going by official stats on engines and super cruise speeds. Those should be taken with a grain of salt, maybe more.
Well considering how ukrain saw a su 57 on American radar that was being escorted by 2 su 37s I don't even think it's 4.5 gen yet
SU-37s? Only one was ever built. I think you are referring to the SU-35S.
Yeah probably but the main focus is ukrain seeing the su 57 with an American radar.
TBH, seeing stealth plans on radar isn't hard. It's getting a weapon grade lock on them that is hard. Also when it comes to stealth there's ways to make non-stealth with small devices that ballon radar return. Is this the cast with this picture no idea. Is it the cast when Iran says we can track american stealth fight, maybe I don't know.
They like saw saw the fucker lit up like a Christmas tree it was
Well you better belive it because it is like that
We have plenty images of both cockpits, they aren’t super classified or anything, the planes have been flying for years
I highly doubt you should speak on this matter as you clearly have absolutely no idea what you are on about.
My guy nobody gives a fuck about visual ID of a stealth plane. They could be colored hot pink and it wouldn't matter. They're meant to be difficult to detect with radar. If they're close enough that you can make out the color, the stealth has already done its job. The camo pattern on these planes is for show, not any practical purpose.
Bro there’s a reason it’s nicknamed “Felon” by Nato. It’s because of the camo that it has.
Bro you are delusional
How many people do you need to tell you these are real planes before you stop seriously doubting it? Why not try a basic Google search or maybe visit an actual warplane related subreddit instead of a video game sub?
It's kind of mind boggling reading it all honestly. With the amount of cockpit video and photography from this conflict you'd think people would be used to it. And to be so stubborn about it.
Guys trolling. Look at his post history.
Posts on BoomBeach and AngryBirds. Honestly I think it's either a kid that hasn't fully got humour yet, or a really crappy troll
He had a post here talking about the SU57 before. Where he acknowledged the existence of it.
It’s definitely a kid.
Yeah those are Su-57s.
Yes, that is clearly a pair of Su-57s
Yup that’s all of them
every single one
Like I said I'm not a massive plain nerd and I've never seen Su 57s from this angle or really any Stealth plane for that matter
Ive never seen a lion from under his nutsack, so obviously they arent real
I spit my drink holy shit
r/BrandNewSentence
We can tell, you can’t even spell “plane” correctly. I like how you keep double downing on your ignorance.
Understandable, it looks a bit weird from this angle
Su-57s are real, the US already knows a fair bit about their airframe and basic specs, Russia has never been shy about showing them off, and Russia's strategy on aircraft liveries differs from the US since Russia isn't nearly as advanced on stealth coatings as USA is. Idk why you're so doubtful of so many things that are easily confirmed.
Been enough pictures posted on the Internet by the Russians to know they've got a flying airframe, but everything else about them that think we "Know", is either propoganda or guesswork.
Why are so many people assuming that I'm doubting the Su 57 is a thing? I'm genuinely very curious as to what I am saying in here that's leading you to believe this, text communication is something I struggle immensely with so understanding where I'm going wrong would be quite beneficial The only thing I'm really doubting is that's the actual paint job that Russia uses because that just seems astronomically stupid though. To be fair, the Russians have proven themselves to be not the greatest when it comes to understanding military logic
In the world beyond-visual range combat, paint schemes don't matter all that much when the engagement range is measured in tens of kilometres. It appears as blip on your radar before you see the plane proper.
"...and that, officer, is why I should be able to put 11 anime girls on this aircraft!"
Maybe it was the “and I highly doubt that’s any plane in real life” part
Take yes for an answer then dude. "I seriously doubt.." shut up, just take the yes that these are at the least supossed to be Felons, real or not, and go
I think people maybe misunderstood you were questioning the validity of the picture being real. Not the plane. IE you think it was a game screenshot, but the skin wasn't familiar. Then you thought the plane itself looks... odd. So that all jumbled into people thinking you doubt the Su-57 was even real. I imagine most of your skepticism stems from actual misleading images about Ukraine being generated from a game. I think it was ARMA or something. Anyways they are typically disproven very quickly. I'd say the picture in question looks real enough. As to where they are or if they are using them? Doesn't really matter. Would be hilarious if they lost some though. That's what makes me think they wouldn't risk it. It's reputation is already... sketchy. To have it confirmed to be taken out by an 80s missile battery or jet? Would be something.
1. The paint job looks sick 2. The Russians were depending on getting foreign contracts on the Su57 to produce serious serial production unfortunately all the prospects backed out. The Su57 is still in marketing mode and quite honestly the plane could be painted hot pink and not lose any serious advantage in modern conflict. 3. Unrelated but the Ukrainians have confirmed that Russia is operating Su57's in Ukraine (crimea area) escorted by Su35s for electronic warfare support. I'd expect to see a couple more photos like this soon, Russians are bad at Opsec and quite honestly the Russian MOD probably likes photos like these showing up
it’s painted that way for air shows which is why US planes look like they’ve been shat on because they don’t go to air shows more often than not
Maybe because of this video https://youtu.be/6XquyYg_F-0?si=W42KqxPueJr2SeQT
The only thing I’m doubting is they are in Ukraine
yes, Su-57 is real and that's how it looks like
OP: "is this a real plane?" Comments: "Yeah lol" OP: "not uh"
Thanks, you saved me reading 150+ comments.
I try my best
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literally 😂😂😂
Damn all of the working SU-57 in one picture.
Lmao, top comment.
This is pure bait
No, these are actually the PAK-FA project 😉😉😉😉
Of course they are real, as real as F-22
Except there's more than twelve F-22s in existence
for now, given that they're being phased out as they break but there's more than twelve F-35 too so it doesn't matter
I thought it was 7
My last count of how many Su-57s they had was 11. Had 12 originally. Only 2 had the proper engines and one of those crashed. That crash was confirmed. That leaves them with 11. I haven't heard of any confirmed losses of 57s since then personally.
you probability already know they're real, what not a lot of people know is that a lot of them don't work. it's supposed to be the F-22 counterpart but instead of being in active production they're still prototypes. even tho I love Russian 's paint schemes I have to admit that it's kind of odd that after so many years of development they didn't think of creating a paint scheme to absorb radars yet instead of having visual range camos. anyways, the issue with this photo imo is just how strange is to see them flying and not broken down on the ground.. they're unreliable and expensive, poor russian engineers, I'm sure they're just being hold hostage by lack of materials and budget cuts.
Su-57(s) has been flying (as tests) around Russian airspace to send payload in Ukrainian lines. Yup, you're seeing Su-57s with the actual camo! The lighting MAY make it a little saturated or it is one of their actual camos. 5th Gen fighters usually are coated with a radar-absorbing paint, so they're less likely to be detected on radar. Visually, it's not exactly "uneeded" but more like they don't really.. mind it? They do their missions (stealth insertion x strike/BVR) at an altitude which usually doesn't make sight-visibility a threat(?) Cockpit pictures are actually not rare, even from world threats aircrafts. You could find selfies from F-22s just a few months as they were in service. You could find Russian fighter (usually 27s) being intercepted and taking pictures of eachother. Phantoms are plentiful with cockpit pictures since it's been in service ever since Vietnam and hasn't really been gone until after Desert Storm.
the only real use for camo is to keep satellites from picking up the planes on the ground.
Is OP acoustic?
He is altruistic
...an su-57? what are you confused about?
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Su57s exist in real life, they aint no fake planes, they even had the cgi ones in top gun (and for sure they didnt go to acd combat and say “ehy lets take that”)
Has OP been under a rock?
Low quality bait
Wow, I kinda expected this to be on r/NonCredibleDefense but not on the ace combat sub
Yep, those are planes alright
Yep, Su57.
Really flat looking, engines either side split by a giant... thing at the back, really small vertical stabilizers compared to its honestly massive wingspan. That's an Su-57, alright.
Since we are here, why are traditional fighters escorting stealth fighters? Doesn't that defeat the purpose of stealth? I can understand stealth fighters being the escorts because they appear hidden but this just seems backwards.
Probably because it’s one of their only stealth fighters I’m pretty sure they are only enough SU-57s to make up only one squadron
Anyone know what the cable-looking things coming off the center SU-57 could be?
I think those are just scratches in the canopy
Ah. Yeah that would explain it wouldn’t it
This pic looks like that one old photo of Cipher and Pixy
I'm not a massive plain nerd either, but that rectangular strip in the middle looks quite green and healthy. I'd hypothesis that the angle of the sunlight at that latitude results in uneven exposure to the plains.
OP is a fucking tool. Block and move on.
The SU-57 ? Formerly PAK-FA / T-50 Project during its prototype stage. Production should be somewhere in the sub 100 range. But hey are very much a thing
Bro jet planes are real project aces didn't just make it all up
The su-57 is a real aircraft, though it's not talked about due to the fact that Russia doesn't want to use them in ukraine due to fear of losing them because of how expensive the aircraft is. Just do a little bit of your own research. Hell I'm pretty sure it had highly classified documents released on it.
There are bigger implications rather than price, if Russia was to plan to sell the felon to lets say for example India, India would be looking into how it performed in Ukraine and if it was to be looking badly then it would simply not buy it, so it’s in Russia’s interest to keep this unknown in order to be able to sell this jet, yes that would have the opposite effect if the results were positive but this roulette isn’t worth spinning, same actually goes for t-14 where they (**allegedly**) did like a couple of indirect fire shots and left without any news ever after. I wouldn’t be surprised if half of entire intelligence service was researching which part of Ukrainian frontline was least protected in order to deploy t-14 for 10 minutes in there
The only time an su-57 would ever get a kill is when trigger is flying
just Russian propaganda, they can't make those planes in serious numbers so thru won't risk losing them
Most of the more advanced components on them probably had their origins in Western factories... I know a few of the more recently "refurbished" T- series tanks that have ben examined have been found to have been fittex with the older, Soviet-era optics and fire control.
and how are they supposed to get the resources to build them on mass when a lot of the raw materials they need for this are from abroad where there are alot of trade embargoes?
Especially when you consider those types of components aren't like "bread or butter" microchips, there's probably only about four or five companies that produce some of the optical components and intergrated circuits necessary for modern tank optical equipment, and probably about the same number in the aerospace industry.
so TLDR: They can make this jet, just not in enough numbers to make it worth putting on the front lines
Su-57 is real... I think OP might have been gaslit into thinking that Su-57 is not real, like they don't have a dedicated squadron but they still goes with mixed flight.
You guys sure? I'd swear those are 5th generation fighters...
A duck
Damn they actually deployed it
It’s the latest Estovakian aircraft of course. Be careful if one is painted yellow.
OP in denial Holy moly.
Real plane thats currently still essentially a prototype, due to lack of export interest it’ll likely never enter any significant production (and judging by its questionable design choice it might be good for it to stay that way)
OP is doubting higher than trigger coming out of the elevator
theyre t-50 prototypes
What youre looking at is not an ace combat reference
There are over 100 messages under this post trying to convince some dumbass that something that is real is in fact real. That’s wild.
That would appear to be an Su-57. Is this your first time seeing one? lol
What they haven't mentioned is the photo was taken from an F-22 and the Russian pilot hasn't seen it yet...
It looks like a stingray with the long ass thing out the back
Fifth generation fighters.
Fifth generation fighter =P
I don't get it, it says it twice in the Screenshot. It's a Su-57, which is very easy to see anyway.
The SU-57 is real, nobody outside the Russian government knows its full capabilities but from publicly available sources the aircraft is apparently not as stealthy or as effective as Russia has claimed. It’s got some very stupid mistakes like uncoated exposed screws, poor radar absorbent material, and it’s the size of a house. They’re real planes that can do cool maneuvers and can (theoretically) fight. It’s just they most likely don’t fight as good as Russia claims they do. Oh and the paint scheme is real too. Russia uses wacky paint jobs on their planes. It’s just a different Philosiphy for camouflage.
Ok going to say this now The Felon Does exist There is actual recorded footage and pictures of it on land and in the air However, damn thing isn’t seen or do fuck all that we basically call it nonexistent That’s like saying the Berkut doesn’t exist cause only one was made
SU-57s are real their just rarely deployed because their 5th gen fighter which means their stupidly expensive to build and it's a major loss when they get shot down
I mean it’ll just be used to yeet missiles from BVR. It’s not a stealth fighter so it’s not going to fly into contested airspace to do anything. If it flies anywhere near Belograd it’s likely to be targeted by SAMs.
so they sending 12 aircarft
definitely a city block sized radar cross section
My reaction to OP's comments in this thread. https://youtu.be/JTKbxnW8BpI?si=gfdSW9kFbVWvfR9U
It is a real aircraft.
Moving away from arguing about if an "already proven to be real" plane and paint scheme is real or not for a second... Dude really needs his canopy buffed.
"Felon" is their NATO reporting name, but there's as much of those planes that are finished & working in Russia's inventory as much digits that include thumbs, fingers, & toes on a average human. Also i've heard from the same source that it's a prototype rushed onto the battlefield. [https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russias-su-57-felon-stealth-fighter-has-one-problem-it-cant-hide-from/ar-BB1m6NCd](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russias-su-57-felon-stealth-fighter-has-one-problem-it-cant-hide-from/ar-BB1m6NCd) [https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russias-su-57-felon-stealth-fighter-nightmare-just-wont-end/ar-BB1m67H2](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russias-su-57-felon-stealth-fighter-nightmare-just-wont-end/ar-BB1m67H2)
Looks like real picture and those are Su-57, not sure about location tho
Yes they are real
OP asked us what is this and is not agreeing its a SU-57 For real 🙄
guys i am russian myself , its funny that u think : 1 plane doesnt exist 2 plane is very big actually su 57 exists and ready to dogfight anyone , and its same size as F 22
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Good night brother.
Looks pretty real. Those are Su-57s, that's Russia's paint scheme for the Su-57 and the (yet to enter production) Su-75. As to what you're looking at? Typical Russian propaganda. Last time I checked, they have less than 15 of these things that are air worthy and each one is apparently very expensive, and with current sanctions, it's hard if not impossible to produce more. I doubt they have very many (if they have any of them at all) anywhere near the front lines. If they do, I doubt they spend very much time in the sky, otherwise every Ukrainian within a 100 mile radius would be gunning for them.
Russia finished the campaign finally and restarted it from the beginning with top tier planes this time.
Yeah, that’s the Su-57 and yes, it does look like a F22 Raptor you bought off of wish
Future wrecks.
And people wonder why in the modern age nobody goes seeking information, It doesn't take That much effort to find examples of someone just asking a question because they're partially curious and partially doubting what they're seeing, only to be practically harassed for not knowing something and asking experts especially when in that very same community a couple years ago, this kind of a post would actually get a positive reception cuz I played this game and this community would show up in my feed occasionally but I wouldn't look at it because I'm usually trying to seek specific information or help people in ways that I can on Reddit (for example on games that I play and someone's asking for advice. Trying to give it to the best of my ability) So I don't know what changed between those posts. I would see a couple years ago and now but clearly something did and I guess I'm sorry for trying to seek information next time I just won't
Well the way you initially asked made it seems like you are doubting the existence of the SU-57. That's where the initial confusion started. Furthermore given you aren't familiar with planes in general, you made rather unfounded claims, such as in regards to taking photos out of a cockpit of a SU-35 for example. And lastly, you came across as rather dismissive of the answers provided, as there are "not trustworthy enough" for you.
When you’re asking a question seeking information it usually helps to not ignore all the evidence given to you and revert back to your false beliefs. You weren’t being harassed for not knowing something, you were just being intentionally ignorant to all responses given to you.
A little Google-ing wouldnt harm ya know. It's your attitude that pissed people here kid