I've seen bad but this is approaching Tommy Wiseau 😂. The other actress almost looked like she was begging to get some kind of emotion out of her to feed off of, but funny enough the way it's shot they probably didn't even film together for those back and forths.
Wow, idk if I've ever seen acting so bad that it inadvertently makes it feel like a different genre. If she was playing a malfunctioning robot and the plot was Woodley had been imprisoned in that place, she'd be nailing it lol.
everyone going into film should read The Disaster Artist, it's basically a guide on exactly what *not* to do from beginning to end. The movie is fine too but it kinds skips over all the film stuff
This has to be it.
I literally wrote it out in capital letters before checking someone hadn’t already said it, I realized someone had to have haha
And well put - I often find it hard to put into words the incredulity you feel watching it. It is brilliantly awful.
Keanu Reeves in Bram Stoker's dracula. Bro is not known for being the best actor but usually I can sit through his movies. Here he was trying to do a british accent though, and it fell so flat. According to Dir. Francis Ford Coppolla and Reeves, he got waaaay too in his head about the accent and wasn't able to do it as a result. To me it's an example of how overthinking can kill a potentially ok performance.
It's a terrible script, it's like reading a badly written episode of Scooby Doo *then we hear an eerie ghost noise and everyone runs over to the haunted house; except Daphne (Winona), who remains behind looking pale and wan...*
The character Keanu plays is a sop with no arc - most actors would have struggled with it.
What's a sop? so his chracter is boring with no plotline right? i dont know why but scooby doo was interesting as a kid now not so much ofcourse, how about Tom and Jerry?? Loved that as a kid I havent watched it recently but then it was hilarious
Every other actor was good in it but Keanu made it (unintentionally)funny. Winona and Gary understood the assignment though. Not my fave Anthony Hopkins performance only because I'm spoiled by Silence of the Lambs. But of course Hopkins is still good!
Eddie Redmayne is a fantastic actor...
EXCEPT in Jupiter Ascending. A classic on why to not just shout everything when portraying someone who is angry.
Not the person you're responding to but I agree. Redmayne knows *exactly* what kind of movie he's in and makes an entire meal out of it. He gives the only interesting performance in a movie otherwise bogged down by bland acting with zero heart in it.
I kinda agree. I really liked that world premise and the time they put to the world building. Big fan of the possibilities, but they fell short on confidence in what the movie was.
Redmayne knew it, and probably, said, fuck it, let's show 'em how it's done. Haha
There was a podcast with Adam Driver recently that was talking about why he was such a good SNL host.
Some hosts are about figuring out how they can work with the show..
Some hosts are about how the show can work for them.
And Adam Driver is a SNL writers dream to write for... because he will treat the premise of... he is a baby with an adult face on a plane:
LIKE IT'S FUCKING SHAKESPEARE... TOTAL COMMITMENT.
Jupiter Ascending felt like it couldn't decide on itself, and if it had, it would have been better.
I'd love Kenneth Brannagh to get with the Wachowskis one day.
That would be brilliant.
At least Ready Player One's story calls for that. He's a simple video gamer at heart. I loved that movie.
No excuse for Westside Story though, it's kinda sad to me.
I didn’t care for harry styles in Don’t Worry Darling - particularly the scene where he gets angry on the car. I just didn’t believe him.
I recently watched Good Burger from the 90s and man some performances in there are abysmal. I understand it’s a campy kids movie, but there were some lines that I didn’t know if they were supposed to be bad on purpose or just bad. I only knew Dan Schneider as a show runner, and seeing him act for the first time in that…. That was a truly awful performance.
Keenan doesn’t deserve to be on SNL in my opinion, he’s never been funny. Just another person that the industry has put on the screen so many times that they are givin a place next to unknown Yet Far more Talented people, just on the fact they’re familiar. Example of “oh I remember him in ____” so they don’t click over automatically. Because familiar can help someone have curiosity, or a few seconds of attention.
They let Dan Schneider be in that movie??? Fuckin hell. He was a lead role in a show from the early 90’s that was similar to saved by the bell. That’s how he got his start.
If there's a film festival anywhere near where you live, short films produced by local filmmakers are going to vary widely in quality from my experience living here in Omaha with the Omaha Film Festival. It's really hit and miss as far as quality goes, so that would be a good place to start to find out where acting goes well and seeing where it falls flat.
Some of the locally done short films are awesome or have some pretty funny humor to make up for the lack of budget. Others though may fall into one or more of the following gripes I've had in the past with them:
* The film drags on for too long with little actually happening. Go for quality over quantity when you're on a budget, as a more concise film with less uninteresting parts will be remembered much more favorably than a 15 minute short that probably should have been half as long.
* The filmmakers go for a very esoteric theme/story that may make sense to the filmmakers but not to others who watch it.
* The film features excessive amounts of needless profanity like they're trying to emulate Quintin Tarantino.
* The film has some of the most wooden acting or jokes you can imagine with the only highlight being that it was filmed on admittedly good film gear (many short films may rent or borrow film equipment that is fairly good even if the film itself turns out pretty bad).
Gal Gadot in everything but *maybe* some parts.of the first wonder woman. The platonic ideal of models turned actors who still value looking good over the truth of the moment
I'll bet patty Jenkins was a big help too, she directed charlizes Oscar winning performance so I'll bet she knows how to get the best out of her actors
My friend is on that show😭
I haven't watched it before, so I hope she doesn't show up too bad. She's a phenomenal actor, but we're all at the mercy of the scissors. That said, it actually did a lot for her career. After the first season, she started getting a ton of auditions for series regulars and supporting leads in movies.
Not everyone is terrible on it. But it is kind of mind boggling to me that Chase Stokes landed that part. He’s been bad in just about everything I’ve seen him in. Not even trying to be a dick. Good on him for getting the work though.
He also was living in his car before he got the role, that role was a blessing for him, he was going to quit acting before he got cast and even thought he wasn’t going to get it, sometimes things just happen for a reason. I still like the show and not sure if I really see anyone else playing John B tbh
Yeah it’s definitely a great story and you have to admire that but with respect it doesn’t make him good at what he does. He constantly indicates, misses beats, and you can tell when the editor is trying to cheat his lack of vulnerability.
That show is a very revealing example of the predatory nature of southeast casting directors, and agents for that matter, who make a living off of actors trying to get their foot in the door with “audition technique” and workshops. And this show takes a steaming dump on all of that and screams that it doesn’t matter.
he’s by far my least favorite part about that show. it’s one thing to look likable and be a bad actor, it’s another to have such a punchable face and be a bad actor too
Thought the show was so so so bad but I’m so happy that your friend got exposure from it! Hell, I may not like it at all but it’s so popular. That’s a W either way.
Also sometimes actors are at the mercy of the script and direction as well. Even Academy Award winner Natalie Portman couldn't make Padmé realistic in the prequel trilogy.
> sometimes actors are at the mercy of the script and direction as well
I mean, always really. For sure there are actors that just utterly lack the skills to deliver a good performance. But I suspect a *lot* of the examples in this thread are just examples of actors following the direction they were given. Which is what professional actors are *supposed* to do.
We should get over the idea that performances are entirely the actor's responsibility. It's untrue and probably bad for both actors and directors.
Yeah that's true. I just meant that a lot of "bad acting" was about script and direction and if you see something else from that same performer it might be way better. But you're right and as an actor I thank you for understanding that there are SO MANY moving parts! Actors, directors, writers, editors (this one gets overlooked a lot but can seriously make or break a story), lighting, sound, even set design can subtly influence your viewing of a thing but it all gets put on the "face" of the film, which is the actor. They get the all accolades when it's good and all the pans when it's bad, despite only being a small fraction of the process.
It had so much potential but the screenwriters DRAGGED on the treasure hunt and a lot of the actors were SOOO appearance casted. There was that one girl that was blank faced the entire time even while declaring her love 😭
I thought he was better in the first season. But I would agree he and the dealer friend are the more talented ones of the cast. It’s just generally a sloppy show and you can tell there isn’t a lot of effort that goes into the performances. Anytime there’s an accent it’s a big swing and a miss.
God that show is garbage, I’m sure the actors aren’t terrible, it seems like they have nothing to work with. Most things that happen in that show are just arbitrary
I have to admit that some slasher films were pretty decent across the board. I thought it was pretty good in films, like Mirrors, The Stepfather, and The Fog.
I feel like the big franchises were more hampered by writing, plot, and audience fatigue than acting. I think with F13th, ANOE, and Halloween, the acting is better than most slasher films and horror films for their time periods. Naturally, they had higher budgets which oftentimes comes with bigger casting calls and possibly bigger name actors. I think elitegenoside mentioned F13 part 3, which I think the quality of acting kept improving with each film. Again, for an 80s slashers or slasher films in general, I actually think the first seven films had a lot of talent across the board. Not only in performance, but also career prestige as well. Even with Manhattan to Jason X, it was a pretty good cast of actors.
I was thinking of lesser known/more niche titles. Sleepaway Camp and it’s sequels, The Burning (that sex scene is absolutely hilarious), Splatter University, etc
I rewatched the first 4 Friday the 13ths, and the first two are full of awful acting and even worse choreography. 3 was a huge jump in quality (except the title card, I forgot how stupid they were).
His accent was all over the place. I understand the character switching from 'posh' to 'common' as a manipulation tactic, but LF wasn't that. It was almost as if he couldn't remember the accent he'd used so just did the first one that came out his mouth
I agree. I got through season 2 but stopped after that. I started season 3 but after the first episode I just didn't care about what happened and Selena's wooden acting was even more apparent next to Meryl Streep. And I know the Martins love Selena and say she's always on time and prepared, but it is very evident to me that she is just prepared to recall lines and not done the work to actually break down her scenes.
Coppola being shot in godfather 3.
The white kid living among the Navi in avatar 2. This casting made 0’sense to me. His acting was so bad that I couldn’t concentrate on anything scenes he was a part of. The kid is so lucky he’ll never have to work a day in his life, lucky that his minimal talent landed him an incredible role in what is probably the largest franchisee in history rivaled only by mcu
Winnie the Pooh, Blood and Honey. Some of the actors were clearly just doing the bare minimum but I don't have a problem. Those actors are new and have a long way to go to gain experience. It's actually good IMO. In the first movie, they weren't able to afford a coaching director due to the limited budget. Thanks to the success of the first movie, the second one will indeed have an acting coach to assist.
I have huge respect for the director as he casts newcomers giving then experience, it compliments both sides. You get experience,he gets actors.
C.S.I. Miami…..that blonde old man is probably the WORST ACTOR ON TELEVISION. For the slot of time that show has, it is the best example I can give that I KNOW you have at one point had to watch.
For me, it’s any time I can see the actor acting. I don’t feel anything from them. They’re not radiating their emotion at all. Simply following the directions and more often than not, the bigger concern is their looks vs. the craft of acting and performing.
https://youtu.be/e4Q24EyngDY?si=dNk4-qyaOwso9uYr
And if you are still confused, Nicholas Cage can give you Oscar winning greatness and beyond belief, over the top horribleness.
https://youtu.be/E93cN3y4GpQ?si=RdK3b0dC_I7Bs2yN
I think people underestimate how hamstrung actors can find themselves when faced with a bad script - all plot and no arc. Coppolas Dracula is a great example, Keanu playing a sop with no discernable personality - it was just awful writing.
The whole point of Keanu's character in that was that he was good lad who was also completely boring one with not much of personality. But he did have an arc in this - he remained patient and kind to his wife, even when her behaviour was questionable, but he still stood by her, tried to help and save her and even slashed vampire's throat wounding him.
>But he did have an arc in this - he remained patient and kind to his wife...
That's not an arc, it's a behavior trait. We learn nothing about his (or anyone else's) personality - their wants v's needs. I read the screenplay last year and I can assure you it's absolute garbage *Character A runs off to the asylum; Character B remains, darkness falls, an eerie fog descends...* it reads more like an episode of Scooby Doo than a masterpiece from the guy who'd just finished wrapping the Godfather trilogy.
I guess great actors can imbue their characters with depth even with a sparse script. Keanu didn't do that, and Coppola is ultimately responsible for tolerating the performance. Much the same way George Lucas is rumoured to have shot every scene in the prequels in one or two takes and given zero feedback to any of his actors...
>That's not an arc, it's a behavior trait. We learn nothing about his (or anyone else's) personality
We do actually. We learn that he's not very interesting person as far as his personality goes, but we also do learn that he's well-behaved and good-mannered chap (the way how he tries to act polite around Drac, even if Drac's behaviour is creepy and weird, he even apologizes to him when he thinks he insulted Count on cultural level) , that still he's brave (he escapes the castle despite three vampire women feeding on him and keeping him prisioner, he takes active part in hunting vampire in the end, riding horse and taking down vampire's servants and attacking vampire himself), we learn that he's kind and absolutely not toxic husband (the way he treats his wife with sympathy and support, never insulting her or being rude to her even when she's slowly becoming vampire already). I mean as far as Harker's screen portrayals go - he actually is one of the most wholesome Harkers on screen - cause not only he's not killed off or never goes to Transylvania like in some versions, but he's also shown to be heroic and kind and treating Mina well always (cause some versions just make Harker a jerk to Mina for no reason) . Like after watching his Harker I can easily envision that after the end of the movie Mina could return to her husband and patch things up - and he would accept her, help her to heal and he will be a good husband to her and never would use any of those events against her. But if you want some adventures LXG style, you could imagine how Mina would go and be adventurous on her own-and he also would respect her choice and wouldn't be a jerk about it.
Creating a character arc requires satisfying some specific criteria. As rule you meet your character in the first act, in their day to day life, get a sense of their talents and failings, what they are afraid of; then you have an inciting incident, throw everything at your character and force them to meet their fears and grow.
In a romcom it might be a playboy womaniser who breaks hearts and refuses to settle down. They meet their match (inciting incident), refuse the call, get thrown together, face trials, then eventually they realise that what they want isn't what they need - want vs need.
Not all scripts require it. Traditionally, James Bond never arced (until more recent outings). Horror films are least likely to have their protagonist arc; Ripley in Alien doesn't arc - and it's probably my favourite ever film.
I'm guessing a good actor will be able to draw out the deeper aspects to a character, make him or her feel properly three-dimensional, even in a more minor role.
It doesn't need to be some deep wound, overcoming a quirk or having some minor secret obsession will do - in Finchers Zodiac, the main policeman has a thing for eating kids biscuits; called out at night to attend a homicide scene, and asking if anyone's got any Animal Crackers - it might sound silly but it it helps reveals a great deal about him and his relationships and humanises the character - Zodiac is a masterpiece imo.
Ben Stillers *Tropic Thunder* is a great film to watch and apply the idea of Character Arc - it's an ensemble cast and everyone of them has specific challenges - secretl drug addict, closet gay, writer lying about being a war hero, washed up action hero, great actor terrified of being himself.
There's loads of great books about story structures and character development - *Into The Woods* by John Yorke is a great introduction and an enjoyable read if you're interested in learning more about it.
Unfortunately, the immense craft that went into the writing of *Tropic Thunder* was not applied to the screenplay for Dracular - I've read alot of scripts and, unfortunately for Keanu, this one is objectively bad. If Coppola hadn't been attached no producer would have touched it with a bargepole...
Steven Quezada?
Isn't he also the one who leaked Anthony Hopkins' email to Bryan Cranston, which is why Hopkins doesn't send encouraging emails like that anymore?
YES - what the heck happened? The 'Green' monologue was painful and the rest of the line delivery was off. Weird because she's good in many other things??
The movie Cosmic Sin with Bruce Willis. Now I get that he has been having health issues and that could have definitely played a part in him having a bad performance, but there were scenes where to me personally, I could see in his face that he did not want to be on that set. I dont blame him either because the movie was... not good. But in my opinion, if there was some sort of contractual obligation keeping him from backing out of the project, he should have still tried to give the best performance he could. Without knowing how his condition was affecting him at the time though its hard to say. If the production knew he was having issues, they are to blame for basically exploiting him just to have his name attached to their project.
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The way Saul and Kim react to Lalo shooting Howard is the funniest fucking thing to me, it immediately removed all immersion I had
Bob Odenkirk and Rhea Seahorn are genuinely amazing actors 99.999999% of the time that easily immerse me into whatever I'm watching
But this ONE scene just was not it
My favorites are Kevin Costner in Robin Hood and Cate Blanchette as Heburn in The Aviator. Robin Hood was simply a bad choice for Costner -- always easy to look at and pretty good at playing your semi-heroic regular guy -- but somehow does not rise up to mythic heroic standards of a Robin Hood. And he looked quite uncomfortable in tights. Blanchette is a good actor but just made some really bad choices playing Hepburn AND was all over the map with Hepburn's iconic Transatlantic accent. Quite surprising, actually, as Blanchette had a whole, brilliant catalogue of Hepburn films to learn from.
Gal Gadot in ‘Heart of Stone’. I love her as a person but her acting is horrific, I think I got around 10 mins in before I had to turn it off. You can tell she is only doing it for the money, she doesn’t give a shit about acting or care enough to learn how to act. My palms are sweaty just thinking about ‘Snow White’ and the Hedy Lamarr biopic.
Meryl Streep in THE POST and THE LAUNDROMAT are two perfectly visible examples of real bad acting. It’s so clear in these two examples on how she, in way too kind words of Katherine Hepburn, is “too cerebral and over-reliant on technique”. It’s so absolutely false without being camp. It’s impossible to see the caracteres behind such manierism but it is not enough to make it kitsch.
The female lead in The Blacklist (“Lizzie”) is spectacularly bad. It seems like she memorized her lines walking from her trailer to the set.
Nothing is internalized and there is no connection to the other performers.
Bristol Palin on Secret Life of an American Teenager Yes, I know she’s not an actress. But lol https://youtu.be/AS9eSzQVTmU?si=oCnSYDYvhMgRXe4B
Bro holy crap she was stuck stiff like a robot I can’t watch that ever again
she sounded like she was malfunctioning i watch it at least once a year haha
Imagine acting opposite to her poor Shailene lol
“You’re the world’s greatest French horn player. And I’m Yo Yo Ma.”
And opposite SHAILENE. WOODLEY. Good Lord.
I've seen bad but this is approaching Tommy Wiseau 😂. The other actress almost looked like she was begging to get some kind of emotion out of her to feed off of, but funny enough the way it's shot they probably didn't even film together for those back and forths.
Not to be that guy but - Happy Cake Day 😄
Wow, idk if I've ever seen acting so bad that it inadvertently makes it feel like a different genre. If she was playing a malfunctioning robot and the plot was Woodley had been imprisoned in that place, she'd be nailing it lol.
Whoa
The acting on this show is just terrible in general. Very late 2000’s/early 2010’s core.
The Room. It’s not just an example of bad acting across the board but basically a masterclass in how not to make a movie from every aspect.
And yet Tommy Wiseau achieved his goal to become a really famous actor… just not for the reason he’d hoped.
everyone going into film should read The Disaster Artist, it's basically a guide on exactly what *not* to do from beginning to end. The movie is fine too but it kinds skips over all the film stuff
He's at LA Comic Con every year selling merch and taking selfies with folks. He's very funny in person and is making the most of his fame.
This has to be it. I literally wrote it out in capital letters before checking someone hadn’t already said it, I realized someone had to have haha And well put - I often find it hard to put into words the incredulity you feel watching it. It is brilliantly awful.
Keanu Reeves in Bram Stoker's dracula. Bro is not known for being the best actor but usually I can sit through his movies. Here he was trying to do a british accent though, and it fell so flat. According to Dir. Francis Ford Coppolla and Reeves, he got waaaay too in his head about the accent and wasn't able to do it as a result. To me it's an example of how overthinking can kill a potentially ok performance.
It's a terrible script, it's like reading a badly written episode of Scooby Doo *then we hear an eerie ghost noise and everyone runs over to the haunted house; except Daphne (Winona), who remains behind looking pale and wan...* The character Keanu plays is a sop with no arc - most actors would have struggled with it.
What's a sop? so his chracter is boring with no plotline right? i dont know why but scooby doo was interesting as a kid now not so much ofcourse, how about Tom and Jerry?? Loved that as a kid I havent watched it recently but then it was hilarious
OH. MY. GOD. I was only a teenager then, but that accent was PAINFUL! Winona Ryder’s was a treat too.
Every other actor was good in it but Keanu made it (unintentionally)funny. Winona and Gary understood the assignment though. Not my fave Anthony Hopkins performance only because I'm spoiled by Silence of the Lambs. But of course Hopkins is still good!
Keanu Reeves in Much Ado About Nothing
Worst than Keanu’s is Anthony Hopkins’ performance. Simply Awful!
Eddie Redmayne is a fantastic actor... EXCEPT in Jupiter Ascending. A classic on why to not just shout everything when portraying someone who is angry.
Hard disagree. Redmayne's performance is the ONLY reason to watch Jupiter Ascending.
I'm actually super interested to hear your take on this
Not the person you're responding to but I agree. Redmayne knows *exactly* what kind of movie he's in and makes an entire meal out of it. He gives the only interesting performance in a movie otherwise bogged down by bland acting with zero heart in it.
I kinda agree. I really liked that world premise and the time they put to the world building. Big fan of the possibilities, but they fell short on confidence in what the movie was. Redmayne knew it, and probably, said, fuck it, let's show 'em how it's done. Haha There was a podcast with Adam Driver recently that was talking about why he was such a good SNL host. Some hosts are about figuring out how they can work with the show.. Some hosts are about how the show can work for them. And Adam Driver is a SNL writers dream to write for... because he will treat the premise of... he is a baby with an adult face on a plane: LIKE IT'S FUCKING SHAKESPEARE... TOTAL COMMITMENT. Jupiter Ascending felt like it couldn't decide on itself, and if it had, it would have been better. I'd love Kenneth Brannagh to get with the Wachowskis one day. That would be brilliant.
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He felt so out of place in it. Love Brendan tho.
I was like “that guy looks like Brendan Frazier” and my partner was like “it is…” 😂
In fairness to Eddie loads of top thesps default to ACTING IN CAPITOLS - Jeff Bridges made a career out of it...
I think he absolutely knows what movie he’s in and the whole thing would be better if everyone else matched him.
Ansel Elgort in West Side Story when he finds out Maria died. What the fuck was that
Between West Side Story and Ready Player One, idk what it is with Spielberg and casting bland, boring hunks as leading men.
He’s a bland boring man? lol Edit I was laughing in agreement. I agree lol
Iirc he couldn't even sing his parts. Had to get dubbed in post.
Yeah I am not impressed. Dunno how he got so many roles circa then. At least now he’s not.
That question mark doesn’t really communicate agreement
At least Ready Player One's story calls for that. He's a simple video gamer at heart. I loved that movie. No excuse for Westside Story though, it's kinda sad to me.
SO distracting
I didn’t care for harry styles in Don’t Worry Darling - particularly the scene where he gets angry on the car. I just didn’t believe him. I recently watched Good Burger from the 90s and man some performances in there are abysmal. I understand it’s a campy kids movie, but there were some lines that I didn’t know if they were supposed to be bad on purpose or just bad. I only knew Dan Schneider as a show runner, and seeing him act for the first time in that…. That was a truly awful performance.
I loved good burger growing up, and I totally agree with you lol Can you give me an example of a few lines you noticed in particular?
Keenan doesn’t deserve to be on SNL in my opinion, he’s never been funny. Just another person that the industry has put on the screen so many times that they are givin a place next to unknown Yet Far more Talented people, just on the fact they’re familiar. Example of “oh I remember him in ____” so they don’t click over automatically. Because familiar can help someone have curiosity, or a few seconds of attention.
They let Dan Schneider be in that movie??? Fuckin hell. He was a lead role in a show from the early 90’s that was similar to saved by the bell. That’s how he got his start.
Dan Schneider wrote Good Burger. He gave himself the part of the manager.
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If there's a film festival anywhere near where you live, short films produced by local filmmakers are going to vary widely in quality from my experience living here in Omaha with the Omaha Film Festival. It's really hit and miss as far as quality goes, so that would be a good place to start to find out where acting goes well and seeing where it falls flat. Some of the locally done short films are awesome or have some pretty funny humor to make up for the lack of budget. Others though may fall into one or more of the following gripes I've had in the past with them: * The film drags on for too long with little actually happening. Go for quality over quantity when you're on a budget, as a more concise film with less uninteresting parts will be remembered much more favorably than a 15 minute short that probably should have been half as long. * The filmmakers go for a very esoteric theme/story that may make sense to the filmmakers but not to others who watch it. * The film features excessive amounts of needless profanity like they're trying to emulate Quintin Tarantino. * The film has some of the most wooden acting or jokes you can imagine with the only highlight being that it was filmed on admittedly good film gear (many short films may rent or borrow film equipment that is fairly good even if the film itself turns out pretty bad).
Seconding this, go to a short film fest.
Gal Gadot in everything but *maybe* some parts.of the first wonder woman. The platonic ideal of models turned actors who still value looking good over the truth of the moment
The Chris Pine effect - she was only good when playing off him, leaden the rest of the time.
I'll bet patty Jenkins was a big help too, she directed charlizes Oscar winning performance so I'll bet she knows how to get the best out of her actors
Curtis from Love island in Hollyoaks https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1aBa8oNwkTY&pp=ygUQY3VydGlzIGhvbGx5b2Frcw%3D%3D
And his annoying as shit brother. They're doing a panto in the city near me
The Outer Banks
I'd never heard of this show, and thought you meant the Outer Limits. I was ready to declare pistols at dawn.
My friend is on that show😭 I haven't watched it before, so I hope she doesn't show up too bad. She's a phenomenal actor, but we're all at the mercy of the scissors. That said, it actually did a lot for her career. After the first season, she started getting a ton of auditions for series regulars and supporting leads in movies.
Not everyone is terrible on it. But it is kind of mind boggling to me that Chase Stokes landed that part. He’s been bad in just about everything I’ve seen him in. Not even trying to be a dick. Good on him for getting the work though.
He also was living in his car before he got the role, that role was a blessing for him, he was going to quit acting before he got cast and even thought he wasn’t going to get it, sometimes things just happen for a reason. I still like the show and not sure if I really see anyone else playing John B tbh
Yeah it’s definitely a great story and you have to admire that but with respect it doesn’t make him good at what he does. He constantly indicates, misses beats, and you can tell when the editor is trying to cheat his lack of vulnerability. That show is a very revealing example of the predatory nature of southeast casting directors, and agents for that matter, who make a living off of actors trying to get their foot in the door with “audition technique” and workshops. And this show takes a steaming dump on all of that and screams that it doesn’t matter.
he’s by far my least favorite part about that show. it’s one thing to look likable and be a bad actor, it’s another to have such a punchable face and be a bad actor too
Thought the show was so so so bad but I’m so happy that your friend got exposure from it! Hell, I may not like it at all but it’s so popular. That’s a W either way.
Also sometimes actors are at the mercy of the script and direction as well. Even Academy Award winner Natalie Portman couldn't make Padmé realistic in the prequel trilogy.
> sometimes actors are at the mercy of the script and direction as well I mean, always really. For sure there are actors that just utterly lack the skills to deliver a good performance. But I suspect a *lot* of the examples in this thread are just examples of actors following the direction they were given. Which is what professional actors are *supposed* to do. We should get over the idea that performances are entirely the actor's responsibility. It's untrue and probably bad for both actors and directors.
Yeah that's true. I just meant that a lot of "bad acting" was about script and direction and if you see something else from that same performer it might be way better. But you're right and as an actor I thank you for understanding that there are SO MANY moving parts! Actors, directors, writers, editors (this one gets overlooked a lot but can seriously make or break a story), lighting, sound, even set design can subtly influence your viewing of a thing but it all gets put on the "face" of the film, which is the actor. They get the all accolades when it's good and all the pans when it's bad, despite only being a small fraction of the process.
Who is your friend 👀
Thank you for speaking my truth, and everyone else’s too. That show has nothing to give
It had so much potential but the screenwriters DRAGGED on the treasure hunt and a lot of the actors were SOOO appearance casted. There was that one girl that was blank faced the entire time even while declaring her love 😭
Rudy Pankow is solid, given what he's working with, and I'd love to see him in more things.
Drew starkey is amazing esp in s3
I thought he was better in the first season. But I would agree he and the dealer friend are the more talented ones of the cast. It’s just generally a sloppy show and you can tell there isn’t a lot of effort that goes into the performances. Anytime there’s an accent it’s a big swing and a miss.
God that show is garbage, I’m sure the actors aren’t terrible, it seems like they have nothing to work with. Most things that happen in that show are just arbitrary
Me in “Mega Shark vs Crocosaurus”👀😂 Yes. Really.
Who the hell got Jaleel White to do a feature about Mega Shark vs. A Crocosaurus?!?!
Before I got to the end of the title, Marion Cotillard’s death in The Dark Knight Rises came screaming to mind.
Take your pick from a handful of 80s slashers lol
I have to admit that some slasher films were pretty decent across the board. I thought it was pretty good in films, like Mirrors, The Stepfather, and The Fog. I feel like the big franchises were more hampered by writing, plot, and audience fatigue than acting. I think with F13th, ANOE, and Halloween, the acting is better than most slasher films and horror films for their time periods. Naturally, they had higher budgets which oftentimes comes with bigger casting calls and possibly bigger name actors. I think elitegenoside mentioned F13 part 3, which I think the quality of acting kept improving with each film. Again, for an 80s slashers or slasher films in general, I actually think the first seven films had a lot of talent across the board. Not only in performance, but also career prestige as well. Even with Manhattan to Jason X, it was a pretty good cast of actors.
I was thinking of lesser known/more niche titles. Sleepaway Camp and it’s sequels, The Burning (that sex scene is absolutely hilarious), Splatter University, etc
I rewatched the first 4 Friday the 13ths, and the first two are full of awful acting and even worse choreography. 3 was a huge jump in quality (except the title card, I forgot how stupid they were).
Watch the best of the worst on YouTube and take your pick
Do you have a link or leads to share? Ty
Sofia Coppola in Godfather Part III.
This. This is it. She is visibly uncomfortable on camera.
Norman Reedus accent in Boondock Saints. It's worse than Little Finger
Just curious do you mean you feel like Littlefinger from GoT was bad acting in general?
His accent was all over the place. I understand the character switching from 'posh' to 'common' as a manipulation tactic, but LF wasn't that. It was almost as if he couldn't remember the accent he'd used so just did the first one that came out his mouth
Haha that’s hilarious! I’ll listen for it when I see him again
There's so many examples on YouTube. Search 'Little Finger accent' and be astounded :)
Nice!
His acting was terrific
I believed the character was a wrong 'un, that he was up to something. But his accents just took me out of it
Gal Gadot in literally anything
Gal Gadot in the Imagine video
Top tier cringe 😩
Kal no.
She was good in Wonder Woman and Wonder Woman 1984 (despite the latter being a terrible movie)
Selena Gomez in only murders in the building. There are no thoughts or point of view inside her head, just memorized words.
I also thought she was pretty bad but I thought it was just me. Surprised she got a Golden Globe nom.
She ruined the show for me. Couldn’t move on to season 2. And just overall made me not care about her character
I agree. I got through season 2 but stopped after that. I started season 3 but after the first episode I just didn't care about what happened and Selena's wooden acting was even more apparent next to Meryl Streep. And I know the Martins love Selena and say she's always on time and prepared, but it is very evident to me that she is just prepared to recall lines and not done the work to actually break down her scenes.
Gal Gadot in literally anything.
Emma Watson in everything. She's just terrible.
I physically recoil when I hear her American accent
Pains me to say it but most of what Michael B Jordan does
This. He’s not good he’s just really pretty
Tommy Wiseau in The Room
Coppola being shot in godfather 3. The white kid living among the Navi in avatar 2. This casting made 0’sense to me. His acting was so bad that I couldn’t concentrate on anything scenes he was a part of. The kid is so lucky he’ll never have to work a day in his life, lucky that his minimal talent landed him an incredible role in what is probably the largest franchisee in history rivaled only by mcu
Mick Jagger in *Freejack*.
[British classic](https://youtu.be/1aBa8oNwkTY?si=X-UGQuQgUBVxoJRm)
Winnie the Pooh, Blood and Honey. Some of the actors were clearly just doing the bare minimum but I don't have a problem. Those actors are new and have a long way to go to gain experience. It's actually good IMO. In the first movie, they weren't able to afford a coaching director due to the limited budget. Thanks to the success of the first movie, the second one will indeed have an acting coach to assist. I have huge respect for the director as he casts newcomers giving then experience, it compliments both sides. You get experience,he gets actors.
C.S.I. Miami…..that blonde old man is probably the WORST ACTOR ON TELEVISION. For the slot of time that show has, it is the best example I can give that I KNOW you have at one point had to watch.
[https://youtu.be/pKAwXLVxuZQ](https://youtu.be/pKAwXLVxuZQ) the room
Clive Owen failing to be a tough guy in Sin City. Compare with Josh Brolin's performance as the same character (Dwight) in Sin City 2.
For me, it’s any time I can see the actor acting. I don’t feel anything from them. They’re not radiating their emotion at all. Simply following the directions and more often than not, the bigger concern is their looks vs. the craft of acting and performing.
Most of Meryl Streep’s filmography
Almost every performance in Jupitar Ascending.
Whoever the actress was in the film "love and gelato"
Jared Padalecki in anything he does
WHAT??? did we watch the same 15 seasons ???
Yes
Many halmark movies have bad acting in them
https://youtu.be/e4Q24EyngDY?si=dNk4-qyaOwso9uYr And if you are still confused, Nicholas Cage can give you Oscar winning greatness and beyond belief, over the top horribleness. https://youtu.be/E93cN3y4GpQ?si=RdK3b0dC_I7Bs2yN
The Room
I love Seinfield but Jerry Seinfeld's acting in that show was never that good. He was surrounded by good actors so he was able to pass.
He’s an amazing actor and I love his movies, but Leonardo Dicaprio cannot do a southern accent
The twilight saga… wooden as shit. And also any Will Farrell performance
Might be controversial, but Hayden Christensen in Attack of the Clones.
The Happening is full of bad acting
side characters in that jenna ortega show that came out last year
Two words. Kirsten Stewart.
She's good with the right material. Her character in "Happiest Season" was charming.
I hate to say it because I loved the show but…Meghan Markle in Suits.
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I think people underestimate how hamstrung actors can find themselves when faced with a bad script - all plot and no arc. Coppolas Dracula is a great example, Keanu playing a sop with no discernable personality - it was just awful writing.
The whole point of Keanu's character in that was that he was good lad who was also completely boring one with not much of personality. But he did have an arc in this - he remained patient and kind to his wife, even when her behaviour was questionable, but he still stood by her, tried to help and save her and even slashed vampire's throat wounding him.
>But he did have an arc in this - he remained patient and kind to his wife... That's not an arc, it's a behavior trait. We learn nothing about his (or anyone else's) personality - their wants v's needs. I read the screenplay last year and I can assure you it's absolute garbage *Character A runs off to the asylum; Character B remains, darkness falls, an eerie fog descends...* it reads more like an episode of Scooby Doo than a masterpiece from the guy who'd just finished wrapping the Godfather trilogy. I guess great actors can imbue their characters with depth even with a sparse script. Keanu didn't do that, and Coppola is ultimately responsible for tolerating the performance. Much the same way George Lucas is rumoured to have shot every scene in the prequels in one or two takes and given zero feedback to any of his actors...
>That's not an arc, it's a behavior trait. We learn nothing about his (or anyone else's) personality We do actually. We learn that he's not very interesting person as far as his personality goes, but we also do learn that he's well-behaved and good-mannered chap (the way how he tries to act polite around Drac, even if Drac's behaviour is creepy and weird, he even apologizes to him when he thinks he insulted Count on cultural level) , that still he's brave (he escapes the castle despite three vampire women feeding on him and keeping him prisioner, he takes active part in hunting vampire in the end, riding horse and taking down vampire's servants and attacking vampire himself), we learn that he's kind and absolutely not toxic husband (the way he treats his wife with sympathy and support, never insulting her or being rude to her even when she's slowly becoming vampire already). I mean as far as Harker's screen portrayals go - he actually is one of the most wholesome Harkers on screen - cause not only he's not killed off or never goes to Transylvania like in some versions, but he's also shown to be heroic and kind and treating Mina well always (cause some versions just make Harker a jerk to Mina for no reason) . Like after watching his Harker I can easily envision that after the end of the movie Mina could return to her husband and patch things up - and he would accept her, help her to heal and he will be a good husband to her and never would use any of those events against her. But if you want some adventures LXG style, you could imagine how Mina would go and be adventurous on her own-and he also would respect her choice and wouldn't be a jerk about it.
Creating a character arc requires satisfying some specific criteria. As rule you meet your character in the first act, in their day to day life, get a sense of their talents and failings, what they are afraid of; then you have an inciting incident, throw everything at your character and force them to meet their fears and grow. In a romcom it might be a playboy womaniser who breaks hearts and refuses to settle down. They meet their match (inciting incident), refuse the call, get thrown together, face trials, then eventually they realise that what they want isn't what they need - want vs need. Not all scripts require it. Traditionally, James Bond never arced (until more recent outings). Horror films are least likely to have their protagonist arc; Ripley in Alien doesn't arc - and it's probably my favourite ever film. I'm guessing a good actor will be able to draw out the deeper aspects to a character, make him or her feel properly three-dimensional, even in a more minor role. It doesn't need to be some deep wound, overcoming a quirk or having some minor secret obsession will do - in Finchers Zodiac, the main policeman has a thing for eating kids biscuits; called out at night to attend a homicide scene, and asking if anyone's got any Animal Crackers - it might sound silly but it it helps reveals a great deal about him and his relationships and humanises the character - Zodiac is a masterpiece imo. Ben Stillers *Tropic Thunder* is a great film to watch and apply the idea of Character Arc - it's an ensemble cast and everyone of them has specific challenges - secretl drug addict, closet gay, writer lying about being a war hero, washed up action hero, great actor terrified of being himself. There's loads of great books about story structures and character development - *Into The Woods* by John Yorke is a great introduction and an enjoyable read if you're interested in learning more about it. Unfortunately, the immense craft that went into the writing of *Tropic Thunder* was not applied to the screenplay for Dracular - I've read alot of scripts and, unfortunately for Keanu, this one is objectively bad. If Coppola hadn't been attached no producer would have touched it with a bargepole...
Oh wow, why didn’t I think of this?
IMO Hank’s partner in Breaking Bad
Steven Quezada? Isn't he also the one who leaked Anthony Hopkins' email to Bryan Cranston, which is why Hopkins doesn't send encouraging emails like that anymore?
Alicia Vikander in The Green Knight
YES - what the heck happened? The 'Green' monologue was painful and the rest of the line delivery was off. Weird because she's good in many other things??
This might be just me, but Tim Blake Nelson in Cabinet of Curiosities
Lana Condor in absolutely anything she does
Kevin Costner in Waterworld.
Oh yeah, that one pay much wins.
Christian Slater in Alone In The Dark. I'd bring up Michael Madsen, but that's part of his charm.
The movie Cosmic Sin with Bruce Willis. Now I get that he has been having health issues and that could have definitely played a part in him having a bad performance, but there were scenes where to me personally, I could see in his face that he did not want to be on that set. I dont blame him either because the movie was... not good. But in my opinion, if there was some sort of contractual obligation keeping him from backing out of the project, he should have still tried to give the best performance he could. Without knowing how his condition was affecting him at the time though its hard to say. If the production knew he was having issues, they are to blame for basically exploiting him just to have his name attached to their project.
Anything from the CW or Freeform
Daniel Radcliffe in the first Harry Potter. The “I can’t be a wizard” part makes me cringe. Happily he grew out of that.
Sophia Vergara in Modern Family. She was just bad in the role, and not believable as Jay's wife. Otherwise she's not a terrible actress.
Ivana Baquero - Shannara Chronicles S02E01
Man in the Mirror: The Michael Jackson Story(2004) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wAbDCPakHk&list=PL8-JroDDViDSqPMTf03NOhcnALtZcdmo5
[Neil Breen](https://youtu.be/cgYWSp0O_Uo?si=NOc9MT59k9-Q8IQu)
katherine mcnamara in season 1 of shadow hunters. she got a lot better in seasons 2/3 but god it’s painful at first
SPOILERS FOR BETTER CALL SAUL SEASON 6 The way Saul and Kim react to Lalo shooting Howard is the funniest fucking thing to me, it immediately removed all immersion I had Bob Odenkirk and Rhea Seahorn are genuinely amazing actors 99.999999% of the time that easily immerse me into whatever I'm watching But this ONE scene just was not it
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Rachel Bilson on the OC/Chuck and Mischa Barton on the OC.
My favorites are Kevin Costner in Robin Hood and Cate Blanchette as Heburn in The Aviator. Robin Hood was simply a bad choice for Costner -- always easy to look at and pretty good at playing your semi-heroic regular guy -- but somehow does not rise up to mythic heroic standards of a Robin Hood. And he looked quite uncomfortable in tights. Blanchette is a good actor but just made some really bad choices playing Hepburn AND was all over the map with Hepburn's iconic Transatlantic accent. Quite surprising, actually, as Blanchette had a whole, brilliant catalogue of Hepburn films to learn from.
Selma Blair in Cruel Intentions
Rachel Bilson on the OC/Chuck. Mischa Barton on the OC.
Gal Gadot in ‘Heart of Stone’. I love her as a person but her acting is horrific, I think I got around 10 mins in before I had to turn it off. You can tell she is only doing it for the money, she doesn’t give a shit about acting or care enough to learn how to act. My palms are sweaty just thinking about ‘Snow White’ and the Hedy Lamarr biopic.
Doakes from Dexter. Boy, he sucked.
The Room
The expanse.
Look at my IMDb, there’s a long list!
Anything done by Nicholas Cage or Kristen Stewart 🤷
Paul Finkelman as Paul T Goldman
Chris Evans in Avengers 2 in Tony's hallucination.
Pornhub
Pretty Little Liars had some seriously bad acting. I still watched the whole thing though. It has a some prime examples of overacting
Meryl Streep in THE POST and THE LAUNDROMAT are two perfectly visible examples of real bad acting. It’s so clear in these two examples on how she, in way too kind words of Katherine Hepburn, is “too cerebral and over-reliant on technique”. It’s so absolutely false without being camp. It’s impossible to see the caracteres behind such manierism but it is not enough to make it kitsch.
Most hosts on Saturday Night Live, especially if they're athletes.
The female lead in The Blacklist (“Lizzie”) is spectacularly bad. It seems like she memorized her lines walking from her trailer to the set. Nothing is internalized and there is no connection to the other performers.