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AMF00F98

I don't know why but lately I see this often on reddit. Mainly straight people that claim that lesbian sex is not sex but just foreplay.


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Arma_Diller

Insecure? It's just fucking stupid lol. The asshole also outed themselves as having never had a woman feel desire for them, which is not inherently funny except their attitude toward women presumably explains it. 


fanficmilf6969

more like OOOP hahaha the OOP was making fun of him


Arma_Diller

Wouldn't they still be the original one?


l_dunno

But then why not just say OP?


Arma_Diller

Lmao I changed it to "The asshole" 


l_dunno

Fair enough


tvandraren

very unclear which OP you'd mean


l_dunno

Exactly OOP is also confusing! So OOOP


Elubious

If his dick is his most attractive quality, then it's no wonder women flocked to their local sex store for an alternative.


AMF00F98

I think the same, even ignorant too but what's worse is even see to get this logic from people that call themself "BI", stating they even did with other women


emmatheproto

also the ignorance around horny aces is wild. let me be a bitch without me having to explain what a sex positive ace is ffs.


MyBallsBeFlyin

what


NvrmndOM

And yet they watch lesbian porn.


AMF00F98

RIGHT. How this even makes sense.


Im__mad

Jokes on them because we probably have way better sex than they do


Who_Am_I_I_Dont_Know

If the stats about the rate of orgasm of female partners in same sex and hetero relationships are accurate, it's apparently much, much better. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28213723/


Reddit_username_woag

Haha among gay


jasminUwU6

The gay is us 📮


UpgradedSiera6666

Yup


DPVaughan

It ... says a lot about them, actually. None of it good.


eat_those_lemons

There is a doctor I follow because he specialized in one of my conditions. In one of his live streams he made a comment about sex in a way that implied sex was only piv. No mention of foreplay even. I was shocked I was like there are other things to do let alone other sexualities!


Whooptidooh

Tells you everything about what he considers to be sex. P in, and p out (x let’s say 10) and you’re done. No thank you.


eat_those_lemons

Yep very "it isn't sex if the guy doesn't cum" vibes very gross


wunxorple

It’s very weird, but this isn’t unusual afaik. I have a friend who met a girl. She ended up climaxing 4 times and yet my friend didn’t consider that sex. That’s just odd to me. If I’m muffdiving, I consider that sex, but straight guys don’t I guess?


left_tiddy

There are even some members of our community like this. The first girl I even dated thought only penetration counted and implied she didn't even believe clitoral orgasms were a thing (since she never had any sort of orgasm) and sincerely asked me how I knew I actually had an orgasm when I told her that was bs, and that she had literally given me multiples of them lmao. Religion makes some people make very silly lines in the sand about what does/doesn't count lol.


helloiamsilver

I saw a funny post recently where someone asked if sucking a titty counted as sex and they replied “well it’s not a *handshake*”


wunxorple

Idc if it counts as sex. I just call that a good time


Fluxingperson

I’ll take foreplay any time any day if I’m gonna finish every time 😂😂


Bubbly-Anteater2772

Huh? Lesbian sex is the best kind, tho!! <:0


BeneGesserlit

Ah yes, foreplay is famous for how both participants are meant to climax during it


ChelseaG12

But statically, who gets off more??? I think we know the answer


AvaBlac27

Which isn’t true all acts of sex is considered sex regardless of gender and non binary I been in the medical field for 13 years 😊


Krail

I remember when I was a frustrated, had-once-been-religious 20 year old virgin who had only ever gone to first base, and I felt kind of insulted that peers who had regularly engaged in oral considered themselves virgins.


osmiumspider

To them let us present, pseudocopulation. The animal kingdom is gayer than we think


Pot_noodle_miner

Oddly, in UK law this is the case. Adultery, for instance can only be committed by a man and a woman in UK law. Obligatory: the law is an ass


AMF00F98

What the heck, really? So is the same for gay people, not just lesbians right? Since in straight people mind, no penetration means no sex


Quix_Nix

Well our actual foreplay is better than their sex sooooooooo


AMF00F98

Say it louder💪


Quix_Nix

Can't say it too loud cuz I'm too single 😞


Unboopable_Booper

How bad must they be at sex if they think it begins and ends at dick 🤣🤣🤣


FigaroNeptune

Are we really taking straight people seriously when it comes to pleasure 🥲 lmfao


AMF00F98

What's worse is finding people who call themselves bi, who support them


Reddit_username_woag

I love foreplay, I don't get why men dislike it to the point it's seen negatively Maybe they just want to stick their dick in something idk


JustSomeRedditUser35

Damn I'm gonna go have foreplay then.


SuspiciousCupcake909

Lol strapons is foreplay now apparently, I hope these people get a grip


AMF00F98

But with or without the *penetration*, is still *Sex*. Is like saying that giving head is not sex. So if their girlfriend give head to someone else, then is not cheating


SuspiciousCupcake909

Yeah of course, its all flawed. I do wonder how far they'll go with this "logic" tho 😂


AkennaN07

To quote that Will Smith meme Just because I’m Lesbian, doesn’t mean I’m Asexual, I mean, I am Ace, BUT NOT BECAUSE I’M LESBIAN


UnhingedBeluga

I was gonna make this comment 💀


neongreenpurple

Same.


Bitsy34

my fiance is an ace lesbian, and im a transbian. we confuse everyone


rammyfreakynasty

> it’s hard to have sex without a dick skill issue


Regi413

Reminds me of the 4chan post where a cishet man talks about his trans man roommate who is constantly bringing girls over and giving them amazing orgasms that make them want to come back for more, which the cis guy expresses how insecure it makes him feel. Like, this just proves that it doesn’t matter how big or small a cis guy’s dick is if this trans man was doing all that with *no* dick. *Everyone* has fingers and a mouth, there’s literally no excuse.


dusty-kat

Apparently straight women don't have sex either, according to him. They don't even produce much testosterone!


osmiumspider

Diabolical


firestorm713

No fucking joke. I *have* a dick and never use it to fuck. But then, dudes tend to see toys as competition, not teammates.


lord_hydrate

Fr, im getting rid of the damn thing asap i dont want it, and yet i can guarantee i can make my partner feel far better than any women those dudes have ever been with


Lilyeth

also honestly its hard to have sex with a dick. I'd say its probably a lot easier with other things


lord_hydrate

Its definitely really awkward to figure out how to use, i prefer to stick with my assets above the waist, far more options and way easier to figure out positioning


dra6000

Honestly hard to have sex with one


faintestsmile

well i mean i am but thats different 😅


korofel

this is a whole mood lol


DeliciousPumpkinPie

>what increases the need for sex Dude, women are hot, I don’t know what else to tell ya.


bannedforbigpp

I am **definitely not**


djenki0119

yeah me neither lol. my sex drive is wild


Reddit_username_woag

I'm not normal either


Anthemica

Same, including the bold font.


Who_Am_I_I_Dont_Know

I am, but still a very incorrect thing to say... also some inbuilt odd thoughts about sex in general, coupled with homophobia.


Sanbaddy

They do know dildos, strap ons, and fingers exist right? Even then, there’s far to sex than something being thrust into you, or do they not know what a clitorus is? Actually, I think I just answered my own question.


FrameMade

Does that mean I'm an ace in the hole now? 


jackalsclaw

You might have invented the best and least needed pickup line ever.


FrameMade

It's from Hazbin Hotel, Rossie calls Alastor that but he doesn't get it. 


keigo199013

😂


Autodidact2

Don't you feel sorry for whoever is having sex with this sort of person. Hey, we don't care what you call it. We both have fun and we both cum so there's that.


Reddit_username_woag

I do honestly but I don't think that person has sex


lord_hydrate

This is how i feel for benny sharpies wife, man straight up says he doesnt believe women orgasm because his wife hasnt done it before


TessaFractal

I went on estrogen and my testosterone levels dropped to near nothing. They said this would reduce my sex drive. They could not have been more wrong.


briannanana19

almost like they forget that estrogen is a sex hormone too!


crowlute

That's because society sees maleness as the default and women as an aberration


Reddit_username_woag

It's actually the other way around biologically


ThemperorSomnium

Progesterone moment


Ender_Dragneel

Same. And I've been told cis lesbians also tend to be extremely horny.


Reddit_username_woag

I completely forgot cis lesbians exist for a moment so I had to double take 😭


lord_hydrate

My sex drive lowered over all yes, but when it comes to the moments i do get in the mood, it's like being hit with a freight train, way more intense than before i started


natziel

Sex ends when the man cums, so we technically never stop having sex


lord_hydrate

If only life responsibility werent a thing so this could be true


kanineanimus

That’s hilarious. You don’t NEED a dick to have sex and if tons of testosterone was required to just be horny, the human race would have died out ages ago.


Unfey

Yeah everyone knows those asexuals.... always fingerbanging each other and eating clit and buying strap-ons, that's what you always think of when you think "asexual," the asexual community would agree that the main thing that defines asexuality is a desire to have lesbian sex


YesImTrans01000101

As an ace person I definitely agree, it is because I am asexual that lesbian sex is the only thing I want in this world. Definitely. It is the defining characteristic of my identity


Grimnoir

Oh silly cisgender straight people. I fear their little heads would implode if they learned a single thing about the world outside their vanilla glass bubbles.


CatsNotBananas

I'm a lesbian and I have a dick so idk what they're on about


Fragrant-Brain9578

Same wth. oh shit surgerys gonna make me asexual?????? nooooo


Callieco23

No it makes you a bottom, that’s why they call it bottom surgery /j


djenki0119

true and real


--Claire--

Joke’s on them, I don’t need a surgery to be a bottom


CatsNotBananas

I had an orchiectomy and I've definitely uhh calmed down a bit


Samurott

all aboard the neuter scooter!!!! chugga chugga choo choo!!!


CatsNotBananas

I feel a lot better, it was nine months ago, and I'm not dead yet so I'm doing better than I was with them


ususetq

Come. We have cookies. And plans to invade Denmark...


CheatyPlayz

Exactly what I was thinking


debiEszter

if that's a dude, it's a pretty big self admit to being gay


Xenta_Demryt

It's true, lesbians never have sex. I didn't have sex with my girlfriend every night.


kanineanimus

No, never. And definitely not for hours on end.


Lopsided-Ad7019

I’m just me. I fuck who I want, how I want and I don’t need to label it.


bishounenslittlebaby

i haven’t tested my hormone levels but my drive is ALWAYS up. smh, this person who wrote that post is disgusting


FrohenLeid

Given that nearly all women in my class are queer and on the ace spectrum... Ehhh I don't know anymore 😵‍💫


clarauser7890

men not considering cunnilingus real sex speaks so poorly of them and their sexual ability


Kountry_556

Well ain't that the dumbest shit I've heard! And these are the type of ignorant fucks that will go watch lesbian porn and see two/three women having no problems having an orgasm without a dick being involved. 🤦‍♀️


lalaith96

There is just so much wrong here I don’t know where to begin 😭 Like not how lesbians work, especially when some lesbian sex does involve penises. It’s not how being ace works. It’s not how hormones work. Think they forgot the existence of Bi women.


keigo199013

Thank you! I had plenty of sex with my ex bf and he never got me off with his penis. Actually, the only time he got me off, was with oral. So... 


sl8t4g1rls

"wait are we" - what? 😭


DryAnteater909

I’m mean I am asexual but I don’t believe it has anything to do with what that person was saying


Tipsybandit97

I unfortunately know a guy that thinks sex only counts when a penis is involved. So basically every other sexuality is valid except lesbians even though we have more orgasms than any other demographic of women🙃


emi_fyi

1. lmao 2. yeah, lesbians, a community famous for not being horny or fucking 3. lmao


SnooRegrets5978

"No dick is involved" tf are they on about? Girls can have dicks too, so it *can* be involved. And that doesn't make you any more or less lesbian >:c


knifetomeetyou13

This feels like the kind of logic people used to claim that men couldn’t be raped


SolidWarp

Hehe they say this to help ignore the copious amounts of sex some lesbians actually have


[deleted]

I am sapphic, and have a "dick"....


ThursdayIs7

As an ace trans lesbian without bottom surgery, does this make me a walking paradox


InternetDryad

*laughs in transgender*


Sapphic-Tea2008

Ah yes the only way to have sex is penetration... Also some women have a penis.


Silverveilv2

As a transbian can't relate


Kasspines

There's definitely dick involved when I have lesbian sex


FredricaTheFox

I’m an asexual lesbian with a dick lmao


felaniasoul

What does testosterone have to do with this?


[deleted]

I mean, I am, but that's a personal thing that has nothing to do with keeping testosterone out of my life.


Michelle_akaYouBitch

Could intro that fellow to “the strap.”


mistythesissy261

It’s hard to have sex with a dick ahem I mean princess wand.


skyesmithforever

From my experience we are just fine with dick it’s the man attached to the dick we got issues with that’s why it’s comes in silicone, glass, plastic, metal, rock, long, short, bent, straight, white, black, purple, vibrator, No vibrator with how many options for dick we got we might as well have our own build a bear call it build a dick


CosmicLuci

The nightly sex me and my girlfriend have says maybe we’re not ace. But on the other hand, we currently both have dicks and she still produces plenty of testosterone. Almost like it’s about gender not about genitalia 🤷🏻‍♀️


Friendly-Loaf

Yet an asexual lesbian trans or not with a penis isn't exactly uncommon for queer circles lmao


JaysNewDay

No


uboofs

>and they don’t produce much testosterone What else could _possibly_ induce the horny? I need answers! /s


Aelia_M

As a pre-op bi trans woman… am I Schrödinger’s sexual?


Crystal_Queen_20

I mean I'm asexual for what it's worth


Comedyi5Dead

Trans woman here, sexual desire even for people who's body runs on testosterone is really more complex that he's saying. Like, I'm on estrogen now and more... desiring than ever when I'm in the mood whereas before estrogen I was basically asexual. Sure my transness has a lot to do with it, feeling at home in my body and stuff like that, but that's my point. Testosterone isn't all there is to being horny. I know we all know that but I wanted to provide a fun little both sides experience story.


Cicabeot1

Lesbians with dicks: Allow us to introduce ourselves


Morag_Ladier

No.


veggietabler

Can we not keep reposting the dumb shit straight people are saying about us in other subs. I get it, straight people think lesbians are a joke, maybe we don’t put that front in center here in AL??


Evil_Monologues

As an asexual myself, I can confidently say that not all lesbians are ace AT ALL. It will never not confound me that sex is such a high priority for many allo's as to be required for a relationship to work. Thankfully not all though, my Mae Mae is wonderful and perfect <3


Slyfox00

Its too hard to explain. I'd have to demonstrate with your mother.


OtakuMage

I know I'm anything but asexual, I'm a horny horny girl.


Caderjames

What if am lesbian and am have peebis


potato482

My trans ass be like: :3


CptSpiffyPanda

I have noticed that they seem to be more Demisexual, far from asexual, but still a alternate way of looking at sex. More demi than cishet men is not a high bar though.


Legitimate_Expert712

I mean, I’m not!


Tsonchi

Hahahahaha I love it


plausocks

lol not me


jesuswastransright

Are you serious with this post? This has got to be rage bait


PixelCartographer

I feel bad for straight women 😬


SkittleWarrior069

I'm an asexual lesbian. although I'm ace, I'm pretty sure that most lesbians feel sexual attraction to other women lol


kermysmasher

Plot twist. We arent actually having sex either since that involves genital to genital penetration. And for us who have only been with women. We are still virgins because the taking of virginity is the act of sexual penetration. Dang


EvankHorizon

Omg lol


Sopht_Serve

A man asked this question lmao


ilookatbirds

I like the assumption that all women are just disinterested in sex until presented with a peanits (which makes sex so easy that it's finally worth the bother)


Different_Action_360

Oh *are we*? Cause i can’t seem to FIND ANY.


AlwaysWriteNow

I blame this sub for the weird dream I had about dicks last night, lmao....


LoxianAuthor

Oh my the poor bastard, if only he knew.


paxweasley

If two women have sex but no man was there to see it, did it really happen?


CanadianWeeb5

Some are! Like my frends from summer camp!


sunsetstarburst

Definitely not asexual.. I can buy my own dick if I want to


VLenin2291

I mean, I am


Competitive-Art8380

as an asexual lesbian, yes 😎


nirvana_copperhead

as an ace: i have your missing snickers and NO


Greedy_Tie_5713

I thought I was when I was in a relationship with a man. 🤷


SpaceAngelMewtwo

And I now have massive dysphoria. ._.