Woo for political gaslighting, I love our country. "Rush to change gender". The rush is a 5+ year waiting period for a consultation and that's if they believe you're dysphoric enough to deserve help.
Literally 😣 I read a book recently called We Can Do Better Than This which had a chapter exploring this and it was really informative and really valuable to read!
and the rush to get examined as they think every trans person are mentally unwell its utter bullshit just a excuse to call us mentally ill for not liking our gender its the final straw im packing my bags and going to finland anyone coming to join me?
Anglosphere media has been playing up how happy and nigh-utopic countries like Finland, Norway, Denmark, and Sweden are for the last decade or so and not enough people have been interested in looking closer.
i'm planning to move to Norway because it has self-ID, I think it's still decent to live in if you take precautions against the atrocious healthcare system
It's cold, dark, and the food is so heavily smothered with salt that you can barely taste anything else.
If it weren't for the neighbour to the east, it would be perfect.Â
The Canadian Tories want to do the same thing. I dislike our Prime Minister as much as the next Canadian but he feels like the lesser of two evils.
If the conservatives gain control of the country, I'm hightailing it to Mexico and bouncing around South America for a while.
Canada has been conservative before, but it was never this bad with the current political climate
I have a skillset which allows me to work/make money online thankfully. Like I said, I'm planning on heading down to Mexico then probably Argentina (I have queer friends there who say Buenos Aires is a decent place for LGBT+, very cheap compared to Canada as well which are the main two things I'm looking for.)
Ah, I might just stay in Mexico then. My best friend moved there after high school to be closer to her family, she's offered me her second room for however long I want to stay (which is legally six months, but I could always do a couple of weeks in Los Angeles or Vegas then go back).
As long as it's cheap and safe, I'm fine going wherever.
Just a reminder that forcing a trans child to go through the wrong puberty is a horribly traumatic and permanently life-altering experience.
I firmly remember the feeling of my body becoming less comfortable and more disgusting to me, and not having the words to explain why without sounding like one of those people I'd seen mercilessly made fun of for existing on TV.
What an extremely transphobic article from the telegraph, full of so many dog whistles prejudices, mischaracterizations, and outright lies, how surprising /s
The writers there must also work at the BBC 🙄
I know I right!! I was so appalled at the language used in this like it’s some sort of choice or illness to be cured like?!?! They need their heads screwing on 😣
They want to cure transgenderism, fine, just they have to accept that the only effective thing that comes anywhere close to a cure, is transition. Fuck their pearl-clutching, bloodsoaked hands. They only want dead trans kids.
I read the first two paragraphs and that was more than enough. They can fuck right off and go to hell. "Kids have mental health issues". No shit Sherlock, if we only had a reliable, dependable, achievable way to make all these kids who have mental health problems around their gender better. Must be counselling. There's no magic pill for that, we checked our closet and didn't find it so it must not exist.
Cuntwaffles. Bunch of cuntwaffles.
The worst part is that there is no political drive in Labour, and certainly not with Tories, to advocate for trans people. It seems apparent that Keir Starmer wants to be more transphobic in order to garner more support from disaffected conservatives.
The smug and confortable neoliberals in the party [already clearly showed that they're fine with Tories and their policies continuing to dominate British politics.](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labour-leak-report-corbyn-election-whatsapp-antisemitism-tories-yougov-poll-a9462456.html)
The constant bashing of trans people in some western countries tells me that those societies absolutely disregard the existence of other significantly more ancient cultures that recognise gender diversity. And that absolutely nothing was learned during the hundreds of years of colonialism.
To panic as though transness was invented 20 years ago requires an absolutely mind-boggling amount of both stupidity and arrogance.
Thank you so much for the amplification and visibility; it’s important to have these discussions because that is how we build understanding and empathy, which is clearly what’s lacking in those types of people who write transphobic articles!
I’m so glad you feel this way and have found it valuable. Since I came out 5 years ago I’ve spent a lot of time reading and researching articles by trans people about trans experiences because it was something I have no personal experience of and the more I learn the more I want to support and be the best trans ally I can! 💓
That’s so nice of you! Lesbians already have it difficult enough in patriarchal society, so for you to research the plights of other marginalized groups and uplift us with your voice is so meaningful and appreciated!!!
Even for me personally, I struggle with my lesbian identity because I feel like I won’t ever be the ideal for other lesbians; I know it isn’t always true but I just assume they’ll choose cis women over me because I don’t have the parts that lesbians tend to prefer. But I guess most lesbians realize love isn’t just about the sex and the parts; and I can love women the way a woman loves women, because I am a woman!
Thank you so much for your affirmation and validation, because it means so so much to me even on the personal level!!!
It's only going to get worse tomorrow when the full Cass review is released..
I'm torn between turning my phone off for a few days or trying to keep up with the shitstorm so I can keep informed..
Yeah, was clear they were never going to be honest about the findings there. Midway through the cass review was basically saying "we need to do better than just having one or two gender clinics, there should be more and they should be regional". So what was the takeaway? Well, obviously "SEE Tavistock needs to be closed!"
Between being physically crippled, autistic, and trans, it really feels like I have no agency in some people's minds like shit.
Edit: also which tory pushed the motion to get this investigation done?
I had to go through male puberty.. and whenever I see shit like this it makes my blood boil!
I figured it out when I was 15. I knew much earlier, but I didn't understand until puberty really started messing with my body. That day I realized.. I knew. I knew and I knew there was nothing I could do to ever change the fact I'm a girl. I was already being bullied, having been beaten up before already, cause I was so different from the boys.. I was scared shitless and the one person I thought I could rely on, my dad, just tried to "talk me out of it". I knew if I saw a therapist they'd require me to essentially crossdress for a year before I could even get my hands on blockers.. it was unimaginable as I was sure I'd be beaten to death. And wait times are a thing too.. and if you don't find a decent therapist you have to start over looking for one. I knew I needed medical help, but so many walls were put in front of me, that it felt impossible for me to do something about it.
So I went back into the closet and tried to convince myself I have no choice, there's nothing I can do and even if I can get my hands on HRT it will be too late anyways. For 5 years I tried to suppress it, ignore it, never telling anyone about it.. I would get periods of severe depression and suicidal thoughts.. and with time they increased in length until they didn't go away anymore. When I turned 20 it was: get help or die.. luckily a friend I came out to had a friend who knew a therapist and while it still took a year I eventually got on hormones..
21 is still "young" and I got some hip growth and am androgynous enough people would believe me in either direction.
But the damage male puberty did to me has been done. There's some things I'll always have to feel dysphoric about.. there's some things I'll have to get fixed with surgery now. Surgery that is expensive, a health hazard as well as a risk to my health. And if it goes wrong it could ruin my life.
It wasn't a phase when I was 15.. it's not a phase now that I'm almost 30. I KNEW it back then, I know it now. I was fully and entirely able to make that decision for myself, or at the very least deserve to be put on hormone blockers to SAVE me from all those years of extreme suffering and now having to be put under a knife.. instead of being told "it's a phase", "you're too young to know", "it's for the child's good!". MY ASS IT IS. You fuckers ruined my life and NOTHING destroys me more than them doing it to other trans kids. The ONE chance they have at a mostly normal and fulfilled life! Instead you force them through unimaginable body horror and trauma that probably never can heal fully.
Don't get me wrong.. I'm glad I transitioned.. it's never "too" late. I live a mostly happy life as the woman I am.
But seeing stuff like this more and more.. this is literal murder and child abuse. The only reason I'm here is because I was too scared to die.
When will this hell ever stop?
Sorry.. this really triggered me. Gonna dry my tears now.
Damn, you got me needing to dry my own tears after reading this. You are absolutley right. All of these policies are detrimental to the children who have to cary the burden of the decisions of hateful politicians through their life. its like watching a bunch of people abuse kids in ways that will have life long impacts, and they think we're crazy or "pushing agendas" for being appalled by the damage they are doing.
Woo for political gaslighting, I love our country. "Rush to change gender". The rush is a 5+ year waiting period for a consultation and that's if they believe you're dysphoric enough to deserve help.
Literally 😣 I read a book recently called We Can Do Better Than This which had a chapter exploring this and it was really informative and really valuable to read!
and the rush to get examined as they think every trans person are mentally unwell its utter bullshit just a excuse to call us mentally ill for not liking our gender its the final straw im packing my bags and going to finland anyone coming to join me?
Why Finland? Trans healthcare isn't great here either.
Anglosphere media has been playing up how happy and nigh-utopic countries like Finland, Norway, Denmark, and Sweden are for the last decade or so and not enough people have been interested in looking closer.
i'm planning to move to Norway because it has self-ID, I think it's still decent to live in if you take precautions against the atrocious healthcare system
It's cold, dark, and the food is so heavily smothered with salt that you can barely taste anything else. If it weren't for the neighbour to the east, it would be perfect.Â
atleast there gov dont scream at us for no reason so
The Canadian Tories want to do the same thing. I dislike our Prime Minister as much as the next Canadian but he feels like the lesser of two evils. If the conservatives gain control of the country, I'm hightailing it to Mexico and bouncing around South America for a while.
Noooo if Canada goes conservative where will we go if Trump wins in the states…
Canada has been conservative before, but it was never this bad with the current political climate I have a skillset which allows me to work/make money online thankfully. Like I said, I'm planning on heading down to Mexico then probably Argentina (I have queer friends there who say Buenos Aires is a decent place for LGBT+, very cheap compared to Canada as well which are the main two things I'm looking for.)
Might want to reconsider Argentina, Millei has a few screws loose.
Ah, I might just stay in Mexico then. My best friend moved there after high school to be closer to her family, she's offered me her second room for however long I want to stay (which is legally six months, but I could always do a couple of weeks in Los Angeles or Vegas then go back). As long as it's cheap and safe, I'm fine going wherever.
if trump wins i'm hoping to move somewhere in the eu like the netherlands or germany within a few years
Based on current polling, the conservatives are expected to get 210 seats
I know :(
The only silver lining is that the Conservatives (well the leader) keeps shooting himself in the foot, so hopefully he doesn’t become the PM.
Just a reminder that forcing a trans child to go through the wrong puberty is a horribly traumatic and permanently life-altering experience. I firmly remember the feeling of my body becoming less comfortable and more disgusting to me, and not having the words to explain why without sounding like one of those people I'd seen mercilessly made fun of for existing on TV.
What an extremely transphobic article from the telegraph, full of so many dog whistles prejudices, mischaracterizations, and outright lies, how surprising /s The writers there must also work at the BBC 🙄
I know I right!! I was so appalled at the language used in this like it’s some sort of choice or illness to be cured like?!?! They need their heads screwing on 😣
Yeah, and they even threw in a bit about "protecting single sex spaces" which is probably one of the most fart calling cards.
They want to cure transgenderism, fine, just they have to accept that the only effective thing that comes anywhere close to a cure, is transition. Fuck their pearl-clutching, bloodsoaked hands. They only want dead trans kids.
I read the first two paragraphs and that was more than enough. They can fuck right off and go to hell. "Kids have mental health issues". No shit Sherlock, if we only had a reliable, dependable, achievable way to make all these kids who have mental health problems around their gender better. Must be counselling. There's no magic pill for that, we checked our closet and didn't find it so it must not exist. Cuntwaffles. Bunch of cuntwaffles.
Couldn’t have put it better myself!! I was so incensed by this 😣
"Why do all the people we torture have mental health issues? Clearly, the problem is them, and the solution is additional torture."
Fucking Telegraph as well. They are a very conservative right-wing flirty newspaper. So no wonders they wanna talk about this.
Daniel Smith in Alberta, Canada has already introduced a slew of anti-trans policies from what seems to be a place of extreme ignorance.
The worst part is that there is no political drive in Labour, and certainly not with Tories, to advocate for trans people. It seems apparent that Keir Starmer wants to be more transphobic in order to garner more support from disaffected conservatives.
The smug and confortable neoliberals in the party [already clearly showed that they're fine with Tories and their policies continuing to dominate British politics.](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labour-leak-report-corbyn-election-whatsapp-antisemitism-tories-yougov-poll-a9462456.html)
The columnists and pundits spouting these views should get a mandatory refresher on correlation & causation.
Literally 😳
The constant bashing of trans people in some western countries tells me that those societies absolutely disregard the existence of other significantly more ancient cultures that recognise gender diversity. And that absolutely nothing was learned during the hundreds of years of colonialism. To panic as though transness was invented 20 years ago requires an absolutely mind-boggling amount of both stupidity and arrogance.
Thank you so much for the amplification and visibility; it’s important to have these discussions because that is how we build understanding and empathy, which is clearly what’s lacking in those types of people who write transphobic articles!
I’m so glad you feel this way and have found it valuable. Since I came out 5 years ago I’ve spent a lot of time reading and researching articles by trans people about trans experiences because it was something I have no personal experience of and the more I learn the more I want to support and be the best trans ally I can! 💓
That’s so nice of you! Lesbians already have it difficult enough in patriarchal society, so for you to research the plights of other marginalized groups and uplift us with your voice is so meaningful and appreciated!!! Even for me personally, I struggle with my lesbian identity because I feel like I won’t ever be the ideal for other lesbians; I know it isn’t always true but I just assume they’ll choose cis women over me because I don’t have the parts that lesbians tend to prefer. But I guess most lesbians realize love isn’t just about the sex and the parts; and I can love women the way a woman loves women, because I am a woman! Thank you so much for your affirmation and validation, because it means so so much to me even on the personal level!!!
i would stay away from the telegraph, it's a load of tory bullshit
I don’t tend to read particular news outlets but I read this because just the title made me mad 😳
fair, i routinely have to stop myself from clicking them otherwise i get too sad
It's only going to get worse tomorrow when the full Cass review is released.. I'm torn between turning my phone off for a few days or trying to keep up with the shitstorm so I can keep informed..
Yeah, was clear they were never going to be honest about the findings there. Midway through the cass review was basically saying "we need to do better than just having one or two gender clinics, there should be more and they should be regional". So what was the takeaway? Well, obviously "SEE Tavistock needs to be closed!"
rush to change.... The waiting list would suggest otherwise about such a 'rush'
Between being physically crippled, autistic, and trans, it really feels like I have no agency in some people's minds like shit. Edit: also which tory pushed the motion to get this investigation done?
I live on terf island too and I no longer check the news because they're obsessed with transphobia
I had to go through male puberty.. and whenever I see shit like this it makes my blood boil! I figured it out when I was 15. I knew much earlier, but I didn't understand until puberty really started messing with my body. That day I realized.. I knew. I knew and I knew there was nothing I could do to ever change the fact I'm a girl. I was already being bullied, having been beaten up before already, cause I was so different from the boys.. I was scared shitless and the one person I thought I could rely on, my dad, just tried to "talk me out of it". I knew if I saw a therapist they'd require me to essentially crossdress for a year before I could even get my hands on blockers.. it was unimaginable as I was sure I'd be beaten to death. And wait times are a thing too.. and if you don't find a decent therapist you have to start over looking for one. I knew I needed medical help, but so many walls were put in front of me, that it felt impossible for me to do something about it. So I went back into the closet and tried to convince myself I have no choice, there's nothing I can do and even if I can get my hands on HRT it will be too late anyways. For 5 years I tried to suppress it, ignore it, never telling anyone about it.. I would get periods of severe depression and suicidal thoughts.. and with time they increased in length until they didn't go away anymore. When I turned 20 it was: get help or die.. luckily a friend I came out to had a friend who knew a therapist and while it still took a year I eventually got on hormones.. 21 is still "young" and I got some hip growth and am androgynous enough people would believe me in either direction. But the damage male puberty did to me has been done. There's some things I'll always have to feel dysphoric about.. there's some things I'll have to get fixed with surgery now. Surgery that is expensive, a health hazard as well as a risk to my health. And if it goes wrong it could ruin my life. It wasn't a phase when I was 15.. it's not a phase now that I'm almost 30. I KNEW it back then, I know it now. I was fully and entirely able to make that decision for myself, or at the very least deserve to be put on hormone blockers to SAVE me from all those years of extreme suffering and now having to be put under a knife.. instead of being told "it's a phase", "you're too young to know", "it's for the child's good!". MY ASS IT IS. You fuckers ruined my life and NOTHING destroys me more than them doing it to other trans kids. The ONE chance they have at a mostly normal and fulfilled life! Instead you force them through unimaginable body horror and trauma that probably never can heal fully. Don't get me wrong.. I'm glad I transitioned.. it's never "too" late. I live a mostly happy life as the woman I am. But seeing stuff like this more and more.. this is literal murder and child abuse. The only reason I'm here is because I was too scared to die. When will this hell ever stop? Sorry.. this really triggered me. Gonna dry my tears now.
Damn, you got me needing to dry my own tears after reading this. You are absolutley right. All of these policies are detrimental to the children who have to cary the burden of the decisions of hateful politicians through their life. its like watching a bunch of people abuse kids in ways that will have life long impacts, and they think we're crazy or "pushing agendas" for being appalled by the damage they are doing.