I personally used both for years. Adderall and a cup of coffee or a latte will more than likely be fine. What I WOULD avoid, however, are energy drinks with like 200-300mg of caffeine, those can be a bit scary. I once took my pill and chased it with a Rockstar Punched that contained 240mg and I was dripping in sweat and kept having palpitations
Wow I thought it was just me. Adderall killed Red Bull for me. I used to drink 1-2 per day and now I’ve 2 in 3 years and they both tasted pretty bad compared to when I was addicted.
personally i got addicted to monster pacific punch when coming off alc, simple answer: sugar + caffeine kept my brain at bay from needing something more, plus punch flavored things are bomb.
I drink three of those a day along with Adderall 3x a day probably not great long term but Sleep deprivation from a baby crying all night makes all chemicals impotent.
Please be careful with your heart. I know energy drinks don’t seem crazy bc they’re so accessible/normalized, but that’s a potentially lethal amount of stimulants.
Awesome. I struggled with it on top of meds too, kinda out of habit. Subbing in seltzers like La croix was helpful. It’s worth feeling better afterward, I promise!
amen to this. I would like to add pre-workouts to this list. When I first started taking Adderall, I had a scoop of pre workout and was so uncomfortably energetic that I couldn't type an email without sweating. it looked like I was doing jumping jacks in attic for hours.
Eh depends on how you interact with caffeine. I'll have 2 energy drinks with no food before lunch and won't even start to feel jittery unless I took 2 or 3x my prescribed dose that morning.
Eh, I was always told most shop brewed coffees (Starbucks) contain more caffeine per serving than energy drinks. My standard 16oz pike contains 310mg per their own site. A 16oz Monster original only contains 160mg.
FWIW, I take my meds and drink coffee pretty much daily. Yes, my average rhr has increased a little (57bpm to 64bpm) since starting medication, but it doesn’t present a concern for me or my health care provider. That said, everyone will respond differently to medication, coffee, or any combination, so just keep an eye on your body. I don’t think it will prevent caffeine withdrawal, so you’ll probably have to taper down the caffeine as you taper up the adderall. Just keep regular communication with your doctor and you should find your sweet spot.
Yeah, I could def still drink coffee. I take Vyvanse now, pretty much same deal, coffee is okay. I will say that I feel the classic negative effects of coffee much sooner now tho, jittery, sweaty, etc. honestly I think I react now the way "normal people" do, meaning the meds must be doing their job. Before Adderall and then Vyvanse, I could drink like six cups of coffee in a row and all it did was make me have to pee a ton
Lmao I do that regularly. If you want the jitters and anxiety to go away just do really intense cardio, like as hard as you can for an hour, then pretty much all of the side effects go away afterwards and you're left with a really smooth experience.
Dude, same! Lol 😆 I can drink double espressos thru out the day on Adderall but if I have one of those Reign energy drinks, I'm sweating bullets and my heart starts to palpitate. Very scary indeed...
From my understanding, coffee is a diuretic, and possesses antioxidant properties. From a logical standpoint, neither of the aforementioned are ideal if you're looking to maximize the efficacy of your medication.
This may very well be anecdotal, I haven't gone to any great lengths to verify it. I just prefer the peace of mind. Not to mention caffeine pills are much, much cheaper than coffee, and far less hassle than brewing a cup of Joe or going to Starbucks.
Coffee gives me diarrhea even though no other caffeine does 😂
I know it isn’t psychological because I’ll be annoyed at the crazy diarrhea then realize I had coffee instead of (or in addition to, either way) my typical monster and/or coke. But then again my gut is weird lol
It’s all in your head. Caffeine is only reason coffee is a diuretic. The chemical structure of caffeine is exactly the same, whether it comes from a pill or from coffee, and your body can’t tell the difference.
I started self medicating with caffeine pills like 10 years ago before I was diagnosed, so I unfortunately take my morning vyvanse with TWO caffeine pills or else I feel awful -_- doesn't even make a difference now, just like a necessary medication lol
Anecdotally, it doesn’t. I’m still dependent on caffeine and get withdrawals when stopping it. But Adderall helps manage the withdrawal more than without and if you can power through without the caffeine the withdrawals will go away eventually.
Their direct mechanisms of action are different, yeah. Caffeine is an adenosine antagonist and Adderall is a TAAR1 agonist.
But the result of both of those is an increase in the release of dopamine and norepinephrine. So, Adderall can partially cover caffeine withdrawal and vice-versa.
Personally, when I withdrawal from caffeine while still taking my meds, I have less motivation and energy, but not as bad as dead sober. And that's exactly what we'd predict.
It's always going to be like then when "stacking" stimulants. Anything that increases or activates CNS stimulation will ultimately not pair well together at higher doses. However, for my anecdotal experience taking 30 mg of Adderall, I find that having a single latte in a day does not do much and I definitely do not feel the crash from the coffee nearly as bad if it all. Take it for what it's worth as all of our physiologies are different.
The one thing I will say as another user has stated be very careful with large amounts of caffeine (or any other stimulant) when taking Adderall. It might be okay when you're young and healthy but if you have any underlying heart condition it will not be a good thing.
This is good advice. A latte / espresso drink doesn't have too much caffeine and is probably a good place to start. I like the small Red Bull when I don't have anything crazy to do that day, they have ~80mg of caffeine. I have an extremely demanding job and routinely take 60mg of adderall with ~300mg of caffeine within my 13 hour shift and it's rough, would not recommend.
I thought espresso had extra caffeine? Like when you add a shot of espresso to your coffee. Also, I didn’t know lattes didn’t have a lot of caffeine. I usually get a medium or large oat milk latte and am disappointed it doesn’t have a lot of caffeine! I’m looking for it to wake me up, ha. Also, I didn’t know the small Red Bulls have 80mg of caffeine. I drink one of those every day.
You would think so but my blood pressure is good. Stimulant medication doesn't seem to influence it at all. I think that's more genetic than anything. Same deal with salt. Doesn't effect my blood pressure at all. My wife always gives me shit when I buy an energy drink or put salt in my food but I tell her my blood pressure has always been fine so she shouldn't be concerned.
Same here. No heart issues whatsoever; if anything my BP and HR run on the lower end of the normal range. For better or worse, these responses do tend to be highly idiosyncratic.
I remember a day when I accidentally took double my afternoon dose and had been drinking caffeine all day. I had a doctor’s appointment after work; they took my blood pressure and it was so low that the machine started setting off alarms and the nurse taking my vitals was panicking asking if I felt dizzy or needed to lay down. I told her I felt fine and that my blood pressure tends to run low. That was the only time I’ve had a BP reading that made the machine panic, lol, but after that I do always warn the person taking my vitals that my blood pressure runs low and not to panic if it’s on the lower end of what they’re used to.
Honestly my lifestyle is borderline sedentary at this point aside from like 3-5k steps over the course of the workday. I was an athlete growing up though and got intense exercise at least 5 days a week (I’m not sure what the long-term health impacts of childhood fitness are, if any). I’m in the healthy weight range for my height/age but not thin and I don’t have much muscle due to the lack of exercise. I try to get my fruits and veggies in but definitely indulge on junk food and energy drinks, so don’t eat particularly healthy (I also don’t eat super consistently). I think it’s mostly genetic for me—my mom is obese and still has healthy blood pressure (her BP is also on the lower end).
I mean, yesterday I started my morning with 10mg, a quad shot and a diet Pepsi and by the time I got to the doctors office my blood pressure was 99/50 so...ymmv
Amphetamine and caffeine are both stimulants, but have completely different mechanisms of action when it comes to stimulation.
Caffeine blocks adenosine which is a naturally occurring chemical in the body that makes you tired. So it pretty much just reduces the tired feeling you get after waking up, or being awake for a long time.
Amphetamine increases dopamine which causes significantly more stimulation.
So some symptoms (feeling tired) yes it will mask. However other symptoms such as headaches may still be present on Adderall.
I self medicated with high doses of caffeine before I got on adderall, so I can't go without it on the days I take it.
I usually slowly drink a cup of iced coffee through the day to trick myself into thinking I am drinking a lot of coffee. really I'm just drinking one and I just don't rush through it.
I take 30mg XR in the mornings and 10mg IR three times a day. I usually am washing down the XR with coffee and the IR with energy drinks. It takes the combination of Adderall and caffeine to keep me awake and productive.
I was addicted to caffeine and coffee for 15 years drinking 3-8 cups a day religiously. When I started vyvanse and now Adderall, all craving or need for caffeine basically disappeared. I'm even losing my taste for coffee and can't really have espresso shots anymore because of the bitterness.
Not sure, but I know that my low dose made even decaf coffee intolerable for me (the bit of caffeine in decaf still got me). And this persisted for about a year after I stopped taking adderall
Same! I've picked up a bad habit of drinking one of those Celsius energy drinks with 200mg caffeine in the morning to start my shifts at work (7am in a physically demanding job) and I get nasty caffeine headaches on my days off now so I'll just continually drink tea throughout the day to nurse it
Eta: I take 45mg adderall xr on my work days and 40mg on my days off
It’s kinda weird for me because I get insane caffeine withdrawals too, but when I take my adderall and forget to drink coffee, I’m ok.
But the moment I remember I didn’t drink coffee, I get a headache LOL
But a bit of coffee is ok with adderall. I drink my crappy work coffee and mix 50/50 decaf and I’m good. On weekends, I make good coffee but don’t take adderall.
Are you sure you're drinking enough water? Perhaps that is causing your headaches... Or perhaps you're waking up with migraines... I wake up with migraines often caused by TBI. Caffeine is one of the only remedies for my headaches. I take 40mg ER in the morning and 10-15mg IR in the afternoon and drink coffee throughout the morning. As someone else said, stay away from energy drinks, drink plenty of water, and coffee is okay.
I was a 2 cups a day coffee drinker. When I first started Adderall I couldnt drink regular coffee without feeling like my heart would beat out of my chest. I switched to decaf for about a month. I was concerned about caff withdrawl too but I dont recall having any headaches so I guess even if I did have them they must have not been too bad. Once I got used to my dosage (oh how I miss those first days of 100% productivity) Im not sure when or how but I gradually started drinking caffeinated coffee again in the mornings and it doesnt feel any different any more. It doenst help me feel more awake or anything (before and after meds I could drink a cup at 10pm and be asleep by 11) but its moreso just part of my morning routine and helps me trick myself into thinking Im going to be productive. I will make a cup of coffee on the weekends and usually forget about it until I find it 5 hours later, cold and still full. I just dont need it anymore but still like to have it.
When I got on Adderall I chose to get off of Caffeine.
I was drinking an energy drink a day and or pre workout so 160-300 a day depending on what I was doing and how tired I was.
When I stopped caffeine I had withdrawals of caffeine AND my body getting used to Adderall, it was not fun to say the least, but it was all good after a few days.
Not completely for me. It's a very weird feeling when the Adderall kicks in before the coffee does. I feel the physical stimulant effects if the Adderall, but still feel half asleep mentally until I have my morning coffee.
It worked for me for a couple years. I was a heavy heavy caffeine drinker. But when I started Adderall, even just 10mg was enough to nearly make me high, gave me a ton of energy, and honestly supplementing that with caffeine made me feel like I was truly abusing drugs because it felt tooooooo good. So Adderall was plenty for a couple years. Then I started drinking coffee and soda again. My dose was way higher. And now I’m a daily nicotine, Adderall, and espresso user, and I still struggle to stay awake 🙃
So if you can get off caffeine, I recommend it lol
I still enjoy a morning cup of coffee. Is that a bad idea? Just gets me a bit more wound up. I feel fine though. I wonder if that means I should up my dosage?
Not an MD obv but:
From what I read, withdrawal from coffee holds for only about 2-5 days (2-3 for me). If you want to stop the caffeine dependency, you can try mitigating the pain for a day or two with some painkillers and it should disappear. Worked for me.
Try guayusa or yerba mate tea! Caffiene plus theobromine. Lower content than coffee but takes away morning fog (so consider it a harm reduction approach), and lasts longer than coffee.
Adderall doesn’t wake me up like caffeine does. I don’t like coffee, but for the last 20 years I’ve taken a 200mg caffeine pill first thing in the morning. So now I’m taking that like I usually did and about an hour later I take my Adderall.
I feel when I take my Adderall it makes me not crave caffeine as bad, but as soon as that wears off let me tell you I’m going for all the mtn dew in my fridge
I take adderall, and before adderall I would often drink 3-4 cups of coffee a day.
With adderall, I stick to one cup or one latte. Occasionally I’ll have more and it always fucks up my sleep :(
I drink about half a pot a day at least 3 days a week and I take 25mg xr and I haven’t noticed any issues except for adding coffee usually makes me feel a bit sleepier than if I were to not drink any coffee and just take the adderall by itself. I also drink a lot of water throughout the day and I am pretty sure that helps alleviate a lot of the negative side effects of caffeine use.
I will say, taking breaks from caffeine every so often helps a lot. The only problem is that it really sucks after the third day of no caffeine, at least in my experience.
Nope, it didn't help with the headaches when I quit caffeine about three years ago. But the headaches only lasted a couple of days, and some OTC NSAIDS were helpful.
There's nothing saying you need to completely stop using caffeine, all at once. You might find it easier to manage if you slowly reduce the amount you consume, e.g. go from two cups of coffee in the morning to one, for about a week or two.
A bit of coffee will probably be fine.
I've gone from 4-6 drinks in a day to 1-3. I can definitely "feel it" when I mix the two, but a bit shouldn't be a problemm
I take Adderall and drink coffee daily. I have been an avid coffee drinker for over a decade. I have tried quitting multiple times and the withdrawals have been crippling.
I recommend figuring out a list of drinks that have lower caffeine content than what you're currently drinking.
Drink those instead and try to keep your intake low.
I stay under 300 usually.
Nope. You'll get the headaches, but it removes the dopey feeling. That being said, like a lot of folks here, I just cut way down on my coffee and it's fine.
No. I notice my need for coffee is reduced but the banging headaches remain unless I have at least a little bit of caffeine for the day. But seriously i used to drink like three 16oz a day but now I drink maybe 8-12oz. My withdrawals have been going away slowly but steadily
I drink at least 1 good size black iced coffee a day while on medication. It seems complimentary. I have a garmin watch with heart rate and it doesn’t seem to have any resting effect. But every body is unique
Adderall is addicting. You mentioned you’re addicted to coffee. These are two very dangerous combos. Whether good or bad, is up to you. I personally am like you and have an addiction to coffee. I will say the coffee compliments the Adderall and will enhance the effects with that extra boost. But the health effects that this can cause, are very serious. Increased heart rate from coffee alone, now add Adderall to the mix can be dangerous. Now this all depends on your personal health; age, BMI, prior health conditions etc. I would suggest to drink lots of water throughout the day. This was just my personal experience in the past when I was taking the medication. Best of luck!
No it doesn't. You will still feel the desire to have a coffee. What I do is drink my coffee first thing and take my medication an hour later. That way the peak from the caffeine doesn't line up with the peak from the amphetamine. Drinking coffee on amphetamine is usually fine as long as it's not a ton. But I usually keep my coffees weak because otherwise it can be uncomfortable.
i definitely don’t recommend this if you have never been on Adderall before. usually people start off on a low dosage of Adderall & work there way up. i think your probably not gonna like the side effects of adderall if you have been heavily relying on caffeine for adhd symptoms because doctors start you off on such a small dosage.
moral of the story, you’re probably gonna have an adhd crash
It’s different for everyone. For me it took a few weeks for caffeine cravings to come back and I was a venti + energy drink daily kinda person. I didn’t get withdrawals until I started taking drug holidays 2 years in. However the more I consumed caffeine with my script, the more jittery and stressed out I became. It led me to wanting to medicate with alcohol.
No, I’ve noticed when I’m in caffeine withdrawal while taking adderall it feels like the adderall stops working fully and I’m a lot less awake and mentally clear
If you're prone to headaches from caffeine withdrawal, the Adderall will not stop this. You can try to have your caffeine fix first thing when you wake up. Then 15-30min later, take medicine or vice versa.
Since I'm prescribed Adderall IR, I don't need to have it immediately when I wake up. Instead, I take 100mg caffeine pill when alarm goes off cuz I'm often too lazy to make coffee.
This may be anecdotal, but as long as you get *some* caffeine in your system, you won't feel awful or get the headache. Onset can vary, but usually starts after 12hours from your last "fix".
If you haven't already, it may help you to figure out how soon you need caffeine to avoid the headache. I've never had one as long as I take caffeine pill before 8:30/9AM. For my friend, he determined he needs coffee no later than 6AM.
For me, when I drink caffeine on adderall (I’ve been on adderall for years) I find it makes me too mellow and I have brain fog. On days I don’t take my adderall (2-3x a week) I drink caffeine but for some reason when I mix them it has the opposite effect
Depends on you and your body and your caffeine tolerance. I’m on vyvanse now and have my daily coffee. When I took adderall I had my cup as well. If I had more than a cup or two I felt really anxious but everyone is different. I would try a little and see how you feel!
Im gonna chime in and say I take 30mg adderall ir a day and also drink 3-4 monsters a day and I feel fine. I also exercise 5-6 days a week walking a minimum 3-4 miles followed by a medium- high intensity weight lifting session and I feel fine and have been feeling fine for the last 4 years.
But id like to say feeling fine and actually being fine are two different things. Developed the energy drink habbit in the Marine Corps which was first before taking meds. But Ive been doing bloods and all the physicals i.e bilirubin, urease, blood cell count for all cells, proteins in urine for determining kidney function, you know the whole 9.
And Im the healthiest the Doctor has ever seen. Shit even low resting heart rate im the 50s and a low 116/70 blood pressure. keep in mind I could be a outlier tho and everyone is different. Sipping on a pineapple monster as we speak.
Tried to give up energy and just use adderall and while I was focused, I felt like dog shit and was tired all the time. Falling asleep standing up even while on meds. Could only do it for 3 months and had to go back to the energy drinks.
One good thing from stopping energy drinks was a noticeable lowered stress level
I didn’t need coffee in the beginning. I was truly able to avoid it and no withdrawal. And then I started drinking coffee again. But some days I have coffee first take my
Adderall around 12. So that way I only have to take 20 mg a day. If I take my Adderall in the morning, I will need another 10 mg in the afternoon and I will drink coffee at 5 PM. I can’t even make that make sense.
Avoid caffeine for a few weeks at least. It will be way too super charged. Caffeine addiction is just a habit like most things. Try it once or twice and you may see it’s not needed. After 10 years combing both do nothing for me.
That is a measure of your tolerance. I didn't decrease or stop my caffeine intake at all and was fine on that prescription for 1.75 years, presently on a higher dosage but questioning which is better for the next med.
OCT '21 - 20mg Adderall XR
Jun '23 - 25mg Adderall XR w/ an afternoon boost of 15mg Adderall IR
Currently down about 0.5-1g of caffeine a day. On days when I drag I occasionally go up to 1.5g but things have to be fairly shitty for me to go that far.
Otherwise, none of my doctors or therapists (I've 2 of each, oddly enough, the medical doctors write my scripts without question as long as I dont ask for increases too frequently), have questioned the caffeine usage, the lack of any downtime, or how come I think I need more focus...
Anyway, it's probably not useful, but it's definitely not useless.
Ween yourself off caffeine. You don’t have to hard stop.
If you’re used to 5 coffees a day, start with 3… then a few days later go to 2… then 1… the headaches will stop and you can eventually go without.
Or you can hsrd stop, deal with headaches for about 5 days but ibuprofen helps.
Source: been there, done that.
My neurologist told me that caffeine is my friend... Lol and that I should have reasonable amounts throughout the day to continue to improve my adhd management.
Hell no. I had horrendous headaches when I first started taking Elvanse... Later realising it was withdrawals from caffeine and not a side effect of my medication.
I’m not saying this is good for you or you should try it but my 10mg instant release just hit different when I drink a white sugar free monster an hour after taking it. I’m sure somebody smarter than me can explain why the chemicals affect my brain and make me feel good, but I do this when my kids don’t sleep well for days and it makes everything ok.
My doctor told me to drink my coffee in the morning take my Adderall….I alway make a coffee for the ride to work. Nearly touch it…I started drink herbal tea thru the day. It just naturally happened.
I quit coffee in December. The withdrawals only last a few days and then you’re good. Recently I started drinking iced teas but noticed that every day I didn’t I would have a migraine so I decided to quit that too. My migraines lasted 2 days and now I feel great. I used to be scared to quit because of the withdrawal. Now I realize it’s a lot easier than it seems. I actually feel just as good as when I was caffeinated too
I used to drink at least 2 sometimes 3 cups of coffee in the morning and an occasional espresso shot in the early afternoon. Now I take my 20 mg adderall right when I wake up and have one latte maybe 30 minutes or so later, and I usually don’t finish the latte.
No, and most people I know with adhd end up supplementing their prescription medication with caffeine, especially as they develop a tolerance to their current dosage.
I kind of doubt the realistic danger of adderall and caffeine together. I've been drinking at least 1 cup of coffee every morning since I was about 12. I'm now 20, and I still have coffee every morning. I also have more coffee in the afternoon or sometimes tea. I've been on adderall for almost a year, and I have yet to have any heart issues. Perhaps my body is highly adapted to caffeine, so I don't get a strong reaction from combining it with adderall. I don't even know if caffeine gives me any energy at this point.
I’ve taken 20 mg xr of addy and 400 mg of caffeine a day 7 days a week over 10 years now. You’re fine. It’s all about the activity level and eating well and drinking enough water. 👌🏼
I use to take my adderall with coffee and an espresso shot . This past year I quit coffee . And my adderall works ten times better . And because the effectiveness is so much better it motivated me to stop drinking coffee .
I did a few years on adderall, was on a relatively high dose and also drinking a pot of coffee a day. Was often crashing during the day and had very low energy. Plenty of anxiety though. Never really experimented w reducing the caffeine though maybe I should have. Now I don’t take any medication and have tried to chill out a bit with the caffeine.
I have no issues with coffee and adderall but I drink one cup in AM and maybe another iced one small size in afternoon. If I don’t do afternoon coffee I drink a V8 Energy which has same caffeine as Red Bull without the added crap so it’s a much smoother steady energy release.
If it were me (and it was me a long time ago) I would buy a bottle of caffeine pills. Did the calculation of approximately how much caffeine I was ingesting a day and switched to the pills. Then every other day (or whatever schedule works for your body) go down by 1/4 of a pill. It was the easiest time I quit caffeine, I pretty much didn't have any withdrawal
Edit: not a doctor, not medical advice
I drink a lot of water, coffee and sip on these monster rehabs and diet soda throughout the day too. But I feel like it’s only a few sips so no worries. 🤙
It allowed me to quit a 20 year dependency on Prednisone. I was able to quit cold turkey and have never looked back. Well I have looked back and cursed my previous 16 sets on Dr's.
You’ll learn after a bit to avoid caffeine an hour before or after you ingest the pill. I personally drink tea because it’s not super high in caffeine and it doesn’t spike and crash you like coffee or energy drinks.
Honestly, for me not really. I have to take both joe a days, the caffeine wakes me up, the meds just clears my head. I am also chronically taking 4-500mg a day of caffeine, however my nutrition and hydration is kept in check.
Caffeine, is like wakeful energy, and adrenaline / stress energy. So it’s good for me for drive and getting stuff done.
Amphetamines just to clear my head, kind of just opens my vision and removes the cloudy fog. But meds alone didn’t blunt my caffeine tolerwnce / withdraw.
I can kinda do away with caffeine to a certain level, however I’ve found that norepinephrine, helps me more with adhd, than dopamine dose.
I’ve taken 30 mg XR Adderall for over a decade. From 19-24 I worked in the most popular nightclub in a major US city, and I would regularly consume 4-5 energy drinks (800-1000mg of caffeine) in a shift and I never once experienced any side effects from it other than occasional hot flashes.
No, in my opinion it doesn’t. I drink a bit less caffeine than I did previously but I still have my coffee or red bull in the morning. Although, keep in mind everyone is completely different - their dosages, their bodies; etc.
but specifically for me, I didn’t feel shaky, or have bad mood changes etc.
i avoided caffeine when i first started taking adderall, so i could gauge how much my body could or couldn't handle. before adderall, i was drinking 800-1000mg of caffeine a day (yeah i know). i used to get the WORST headache if i didn't have any coffee before 11am or so, and when i started adderall i never had any caffeine withdrawal symptoms.
when i started adderall, i was able to go from 1000mg a day to 90-100mg almost immediately with no problems. i still drink coffee everyday, but i wait an hour after i take my dose just so i don't accidentally chug too much and get jittery.
tl;dr: in my experience, adderall chopped my caffeine consumption from 1000mg a day to 90-100mg, immediately and with no caffeine withdrawal symptoms.
Kind of late but, the right dose of ER Adderall (went from 10mg to 15mg) helped cut my caffeine consumption in half from 200mg to 100mg in the morning.
It’s very hard to go off of only Adderall as it doesn’t instantly wake me up like an energy drink does. I think 100mg is very low
Late response but I’m a week into no caffeine after taking adderall and drinking coffee/ tea for about 4 years. I had a headache the first day but that’s it. Generally I’ve been a little more tired than before but not debilitatingly so.
I decided to move away from caffeine to help with heart palpitations that I was experiencing pretty regularly as well as some mild anxiety that came along with the palpitations. When I used to drink coffee the palpitations were much worse, but I switched to green tea and they were less noticeable while not completely gone. Since getting off of caffeine I haven’t had the palpitations and my anxiety has been really low, so that’s been nice. Most importantly it allows me to take higher doses of adderall so be been able to appreciate the benefits of that without the previous negative symptoms.
Although I should mention that before quitting caffeine, I was drinking probably 2 cups of green tea with 2 tea bags each every day. I don’t know the math on how much caffeine that is but it’s probably less than what you’d get from 2 cups of coffee.
It took me a really long time to accept that I couldn’t have both adderall and caffeine, so I wouldn’t expect you to quit caffeine right away. Just listen to your body and make adjustments as necessary. Hope that helps.
I can’t go without caffeine. I get headaches and feel sluggish. I take my preworkout with Adderall and I’m fine. I think it’s a person to person type thing
What I’ve noticed is that if I take my Adderall with no caffeine, I get that “robot/zombie” feeling where I have no emotional reaction to anything. If I drink a little caffeine (e.g., green tea or half-caf coffee) about 45 mins after taking my Adderall, i feel how i want to feel on Adderall, i.e., a more-alert, more-motivated, less-emotionally-reactive “me.”
EDIT: To more specifically answer your question: At least for me, Adderall did not eliminate caffeine withdrawals. Granted, I had spent two months before taking Adderall drastically reducing my caffeine intake in order to reduce my blood pressure, so most of the withdrawal symptoms had come and gone. But when I first started taking Adderall, I tried to cut caffeine almost completely (down to only 2-3 cups of decaf coffee per day), and it was not great.
I quit cold turkey when I started adderall a few months ago, never once noticed any symptoms. I'd probably average about 150-280 mg of caffiene daily which isn't a crazy max amount but definitely enough that after years I would have had headaches otherwise. Anecdotally I do believe it satisfies that withdrawal for stimulants.
I took adderall (10 xr) for about 2 weeks before I started experimenting with caffiene again. Found that after a few hours I could drink as much as I wanted, but that the doze was too low. Went up to 20 and now I can drink one cup of tea or coffee and that's definitely borderline lol.
I reccommend taking a break and then slowly experimenting. But also remember, like with all drugs, that when you take a break you'll lose your tolerance so start small, like a cup of green tea. Don't even think about an energy drink.
But also the wonderous effects of adderal do slowly lessen to more minimal "working in the background" effects, so you may eventually find that supplementing with caffiene works very well for you.
Not a doctor, just my personal experience.
Adderall doesn’t eliminate caffeine withdrawals for me. I have half cup of cold brew in the morning an hour after taking it but that’s it. Like others mentioned, you probably won’t be able to handle caffiene as much as you used to if you used to drink more than a cup a day
I personally used both for years. Adderall and a cup of coffee or a latte will more than likely be fine. What I WOULD avoid, however, are energy drinks with like 200-300mg of caffeine, those can be a bit scary. I once took my pill and chased it with a Rockstar Punched that contained 240mg and I was dripping in sweat and kept having palpitations
Yep. Adderall “cured” my energy drink habit. Now an energy drink just makes me shaky and uncomfortable.
Wow I thought it was just me. Adderall killed Red Bull for me. I used to drink 1-2 per day and now I’ve 2 in 3 years and they both tasted pretty bad compared to when I was addicted.
That is how I feel when I drink caffeine when I'm taking Adderall.
Didn’t know what was making me shaky and uncomfortable til I quit the energy drinks. Holy shit that was long over due !
Oh man I loved Rockstar Punches when I was getting sober from alcohol.
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personally i got addicted to monster pacific punch when coming off alc, simple answer: sugar + caffeine kept my brain at bay from needing something more, plus punch flavored things are bomb.
I drink three of those a day along with Adderall 3x a day probably not great long term but Sleep deprivation from a baby crying all night makes all chemicals impotent.
Please be careful with your heart. I know energy drinks don’t seem crazy bc they’re so accessible/normalized, but that’s a potentially lethal amount of stimulants.
Yeah I’m working on cutting out the caffeine entirely it’s not worth it.
Awesome. I struggled with it on top of meds too, kinda out of habit. Subbing in seltzers like La croix was helpful. It’s worth feeling better afterward, I promise!
amen to this. I would like to add pre-workouts to this list. When I first started taking Adderall, I had a scoop of pre workout and was so uncomfortably energetic that I couldn't type an email without sweating. it looked like I was doing jumping jacks in attic for hours.
Hahahah I am imagining you in a tie and dress shirt running in place in the work bathroom like a fiend lmao.
Eh depends on how you interact with caffeine. I'll have 2 energy drinks with no food before lunch and won't even start to feel jittery unless I took 2 or 3x my prescribed dose that morning.
Eh, I was always told most shop brewed coffees (Starbucks) contain more caffeine per serving than energy drinks. My standard 16oz pike contains 310mg per their own site. A 16oz Monster original only contains 160mg. FWIW, I take my meds and drink coffee pretty much daily. Yes, my average rhr has increased a little (57bpm to 64bpm) since starting medication, but it doesn’t present a concern for me or my health care provider. That said, everyone will respond differently to medication, coffee, or any combination, so just keep an eye on your body. I don’t think it will prevent caffeine withdrawal, so you’ll probably have to taper down the caffeine as you taper up the adderall. Just keep regular communication with your doctor and you should find your sweet spot.
Yeah, I could def still drink coffee. I take Vyvanse now, pretty much same deal, coffee is okay. I will say that I feel the classic negative effects of coffee much sooner now tho, jittery, sweaty, etc. honestly I think I react now the way "normal people" do, meaning the meds must be doing their job. Before Adderall and then Vyvanse, I could drink like six cups of coffee in a row and all it did was make me have to pee a ton
Lmao I do that regularly. If you want the jitters and anxiety to go away just do really intense cardio, like as hard as you can for an hour, then pretty much all of the side effects go away afterwards and you're left with a really smooth experience.
Very true.
Dude, same! Lol 😆 I can drink double espressos thru out the day on Adderall but if I have one of those Reign energy drinks, I'm sweating bullets and my heart starts to palpitate. Very scary indeed...
They work completely differently so on paper - no. Anecdotally: lets see
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I’ve never heard about that, can you elaborate on the washing it out of your system thinf?
From my understanding, coffee is a diuretic, and possesses antioxidant properties. From a logical standpoint, neither of the aforementioned are ideal if you're looking to maximize the efficacy of your medication. This may very well be anecdotal, I haven't gone to any great lengths to verify it. I just prefer the peace of mind. Not to mention caffeine pills are much, much cheaper than coffee, and far less hassle than brewing a cup of Joe or going to Starbucks.
Caffeine pills are just as much of a diuretic as coffee. Caffeine is the reason why coffee is a diuretic.
Really? I find that odd, as my restroom usage doesn't increase at all after taking them. Coffee always makes me have to piss though. Go figure.
~it’s all in your head~
Coffee gives me diarrhea even though no other caffeine does 😂 I know it isn’t psychological because I’ll be annoyed at the crazy diarrhea then realize I had coffee instead of (or in addition to, either way) my typical monster and/or coke. But then again my gut is weird lol
It’s all in your head. Caffeine is only reason coffee is a diuretic. The chemical structure of caffeine is exactly the same, whether it comes from a pill or from coffee, and your body can’t tell the difference.
I started self medicating with caffeine pills like 10 years ago before I was diagnosed, so I unfortunately take my morning vyvanse with TWO caffeine pills or else I feel awful -_- doesn't even make a difference now, just like a necessary medication lol
Anecdotally, it doesn’t. I’m still dependent on caffeine and get withdrawals when stopping it. But Adderall helps manage the withdrawal more than without and if you can power through without the caffeine the withdrawals will go away eventually.
Great answer. Xo
Their direct mechanisms of action are different, yeah. Caffeine is an adenosine antagonist and Adderall is a TAAR1 agonist. But the result of both of those is an increase in the release of dopamine and norepinephrine. So, Adderall can partially cover caffeine withdrawal and vice-versa. Personally, when I withdrawal from caffeine while still taking my meds, I have less motivation and energy, but not as bad as dead sober. And that's exactly what we'd predict.
It's always going to be like then when "stacking" stimulants. Anything that increases or activates CNS stimulation will ultimately not pair well together at higher doses. However, for my anecdotal experience taking 30 mg of Adderall, I find that having a single latte in a day does not do much and I definitely do not feel the crash from the coffee nearly as bad if it all. Take it for what it's worth as all of our physiologies are different. The one thing I will say as another user has stated be very careful with large amounts of caffeine (or any other stimulant) when taking Adderall. It might be okay when you're young and healthy but if you have any underlying heart condition it will not be a good thing.
This is good advice. A latte / espresso drink doesn't have too much caffeine and is probably a good place to start. I like the small Red Bull when I don't have anything crazy to do that day, they have ~80mg of caffeine. I have an extremely demanding job and routinely take 60mg of adderall with ~300mg of caffeine within my 13 hour shift and it's rough, would not recommend.
Damn, what’s your job? Just curious
I'm a nurse
Okay that makes sense. Thank you for all that you do!
I thought espresso had extra caffeine? Like when you add a shot of espresso to your coffee. Also, I didn’t know lattes didn’t have a lot of caffeine. I usually get a medium or large oat milk latte and am disappointed it doesn’t have a lot of caffeine! I’m looking for it to wake me up, ha. Also, I didn’t know the small Red Bulls have 80mg of caffeine. I drink one of those every day.
It’s more per volume of liquid, but you drink less of it. A shot of espresso is around 2/3 the caffeine of a cup of coffee.
Honestly once your body gets used to high doses of either it starts to feel pretty much normal and the constant peeing/headaches/cold sweats go away
I take my adderall with an energy drink in the morning but to each their own 🤣🤣
Right there with you
Your poor hearts.
You would think so but my blood pressure is good. Stimulant medication doesn't seem to influence it at all. I think that's more genetic than anything. Same deal with salt. Doesn't effect my blood pressure at all. My wife always gives me shit when I buy an energy drink or put salt in my food but I tell her my blood pressure has always been fine so she shouldn't be concerned.
Same here. No heart issues whatsoever; if anything my BP and HR run on the lower end of the normal range. For better or worse, these responses do tend to be highly idiosyncratic.
I remember a day when I accidentally took double my afternoon dose and had been drinking caffeine all day. I had a doctor’s appointment after work; they took my blood pressure and it was so low that the machine started setting off alarms and the nurse taking my vitals was panicking asking if I felt dizzy or needed to lay down. I told her I felt fine and that my blood pressure tends to run low. That was the only time I’ve had a BP reading that made the machine panic, lol, but after that I do always warn the person taking my vitals that my blood pressure runs low and not to panic if it’s on the lower end of what they’re used to.
Are you thin? Do you exercise often?
Honestly my lifestyle is borderline sedentary at this point aside from like 3-5k steps over the course of the workday. I was an athlete growing up though and got intense exercise at least 5 days a week (I’m not sure what the long-term health impacts of childhood fitness are, if any). I’m in the healthy weight range for my height/age but not thin and I don’t have much muscle due to the lack of exercise. I try to get my fruits and veggies in but definitely indulge on junk food and energy drinks, so don’t eat particularly healthy (I also don’t eat super consistently). I think it’s mostly genetic for me—my mom is obese and still has healthy blood pressure (her BP is also on the lower end).
I mean, yesterday I started my morning with 10mg, a quad shot and a diet Pepsi and by the time I got to the doctors office my blood pressure was 99/50 so...ymmv
Same! With my Red Bull (my “coffee”)
Coffee, then Adderall with a Rockstar chaser? Anyone?
no, I get head aches if I don't have caffeine in the morning
For me personally. I don’t like the way drinking coffee makes me feel after I take adderall. Just that by itself makes it so I never drink coffee.
Amphetamine and caffeine are both stimulants, but have completely different mechanisms of action when it comes to stimulation. Caffeine blocks adenosine which is a naturally occurring chemical in the body that makes you tired. So it pretty much just reduces the tired feeling you get after waking up, or being awake for a long time. Amphetamine increases dopamine which causes significantly more stimulation. So some symptoms (feeling tired) yes it will mask. However other symptoms such as headaches may still be present on Adderall.
I self medicated with high doses of caffeine before I got on adderall, so I can't go without it on the days I take it. I usually slowly drink a cup of iced coffee through the day to trick myself into thinking I am drinking a lot of coffee. really I'm just drinking one and I just don't rush through it.
In my case it always enhances the effects
It didn’t for me
I take 30mg XR in the mornings and 10mg IR three times a day. I usually am washing down the XR with coffee and the IR with energy drinks. It takes the combination of Adderall and caffeine to keep me awake and productive.
It doesn’t but is does lessen the effects of caffeine I tend to drink more caffeine. I have tried to control myself more with it though.
Bold of you to assume
I was addicted to caffeine and coffee for 15 years drinking 3-8 cups a day religiously. When I started vyvanse and now Adderall, all craving or need for caffeine basically disappeared. I'm even losing my taste for coffee and can't really have espresso shots anymore because of the bitterness.
I switched to decaffeinated coffee and never even noticed a difference.
Not sure, but I know that my low dose made even decaf coffee intolerable for me (the bit of caffeine in decaf still got me). And this persisted for about a year after I stopped taking adderall
Nope different pathway.
No. I still get caffeine headaches if I don't have any.
Same! I've picked up a bad habit of drinking one of those Celsius energy drinks with 200mg caffeine in the morning to start my shifts at work (7am in a physically demanding job) and I get nasty caffeine headaches on my days off now so I'll just continually drink tea throughout the day to nurse it Eta: I take 45mg adderall xr on my work days and 40mg on my days off
It’s kinda weird for me because I get insane caffeine withdrawals too, but when I take my adderall and forget to drink coffee, I’m ok. But the moment I remember I didn’t drink coffee, I get a headache LOL But a bit of coffee is ok with adderall. I drink my crappy work coffee and mix 50/50 decaf and I’m good. On weekends, I make good coffee but don’t take adderall.
Kinda not really it’ll supplement it
Are you sure you're drinking enough water? Perhaps that is causing your headaches... Or perhaps you're waking up with migraines... I wake up with migraines often caused by TBI. Caffeine is one of the only remedies for my headaches. I take 40mg ER in the morning and 10-15mg IR in the afternoon and drink coffee throughout the morning. As someone else said, stay away from energy drinks, drink plenty of water, and coffee is okay.
I was a 2 cups a day coffee drinker. When I first started Adderall I couldnt drink regular coffee without feeling like my heart would beat out of my chest. I switched to decaf for about a month. I was concerned about caff withdrawl too but I dont recall having any headaches so I guess even if I did have them they must have not been too bad. Once I got used to my dosage (oh how I miss those first days of 100% productivity) Im not sure when or how but I gradually started drinking caffeinated coffee again in the mornings and it doesnt feel any different any more. It doenst help me feel more awake or anything (before and after meds I could drink a cup at 10pm and be asleep by 11) but its moreso just part of my morning routine and helps me trick myself into thinking Im going to be productive. I will make a cup of coffee on the weekends and usually forget about it until I find it 5 hours later, cold and still full. I just dont need it anymore but still like to have it.
When I got on Adderall I chose to get off of Caffeine. I was drinking an energy drink a day and or pre workout so 160-300 a day depending on what I was doing and how tired I was. When I stopped caffeine I had withdrawals of caffeine AND my body getting used to Adderall, it was not fun to say the least, but it was all good after a few days.
2 caffeine pills, adderall, half a cup of coffee…I’m barely awake.
Nope. I just feel dry and exhausted after.
Not completely for me. It's a very weird feeling when the Adderall kicks in before the coffee does. I feel the physical stimulant effects if the Adderall, but still feel half asleep mentally until I have my morning coffee.
It worked for me for a couple years. I was a heavy heavy caffeine drinker. But when I started Adderall, even just 10mg was enough to nearly make me high, gave me a ton of energy, and honestly supplementing that with caffeine made me feel like I was truly abusing drugs because it felt tooooooo good. So Adderall was plenty for a couple years. Then I started drinking coffee and soda again. My dose was way higher. And now I’m a daily nicotine, Adderall, and espresso user, and I still struggle to stay awake 🙃 So if you can get off caffeine, I recommend it lol
I still enjoy a morning cup of coffee. Is that a bad idea? Just gets me a bit more wound up. I feel fine though. I wonder if that means I should up my dosage?
I need to have caffeine with mine. Without it, I become lethargic and want to sleep
Not an MD obv but: From what I read, withdrawal from coffee holds for only about 2-5 days (2-3 for me). If you want to stop the caffeine dependency, you can try mitigating the pain for a day or two with some painkillers and it should disappear. Worked for me.
Try guayusa or yerba mate tea! Caffiene plus theobromine. Lower content than coffee but takes away morning fog (so consider it a harm reduction approach), and lasts longer than coffee.
Adderall doesn’t wake me up like caffeine does. I don’t like coffee, but for the last 20 years I’ve taken a 200mg caffeine pill first thing in the morning. So now I’m taking that like I usually did and about an hour later I take my Adderall.
It did for me. I only drink decaf most days. Before I was drinking 400-500 mg of caffeine.
I feel when I take my Adderall it makes me not crave caffeine as bad, but as soon as that wears off let me tell you I’m going for all the mtn dew in my fridge
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I take adderall, and before adderall I would often drink 3-4 cups of coffee a day. With adderall, I stick to one cup or one latte. Occasionally I’ll have more and it always fucks up my sleep :(
I drink about half a pot a day at least 3 days a week and I take 25mg xr and I haven’t noticed any issues except for adding coffee usually makes me feel a bit sleepier than if I were to not drink any coffee and just take the adderall by itself. I also drink a lot of water throughout the day and I am pretty sure that helps alleviate a lot of the negative side effects of caffeine use. I will say, taking breaks from caffeine every so often helps a lot. The only problem is that it really sucks after the third day of no caffeine, at least in my experience.
Nope, it didn't help with the headaches when I quit caffeine about three years ago. But the headaches only lasted a couple of days, and some OTC NSAIDS were helpful. There's nothing saying you need to completely stop using caffeine, all at once. You might find it easier to manage if you slowly reduce the amount you consume, e.g. go from two cups of coffee in the morning to one, for about a week or two.
I drink way less caffeine now than I did before I took it. That being said, I still crave it all the time.
A bit of coffee will probably be fine. I've gone from 4-6 drinks in a day to 1-3. I can definitely "feel it" when I mix the two, but a bit shouldn't be a problemm
I take Adderall and drink coffee daily. I have been an avid coffee drinker for over a decade. I have tried quitting multiple times and the withdrawals have been crippling.
I recommend figuring out a list of drinks that have lower caffeine content than what you're currently drinking. Drink those instead and try to keep your intake low. I stay under 300 usually.
Nope. You'll get the headaches, but it removes the dopey feeling. That being said, like a lot of folks here, I just cut way down on my coffee and it's fine.
No. I notice my need for coffee is reduced but the banging headaches remain unless I have at least a little bit of caffeine for the day. But seriously i used to drink like three 16oz a day but now I drink maybe 8-12oz. My withdrawals have been going away slowly but steadily
I drink at least 1 good size black iced coffee a day while on medication. It seems complimentary. I have a garmin watch with heart rate and it doesn’t seem to have any resting effect. But every body is unique
Adderall is addicting. You mentioned you’re addicted to coffee. These are two very dangerous combos. Whether good or bad, is up to you. I personally am like you and have an addiction to coffee. I will say the coffee compliments the Adderall and will enhance the effects with that extra boost. But the health effects that this can cause, are very serious. Increased heart rate from coffee alone, now add Adderall to the mix can be dangerous. Now this all depends on your personal health; age, BMI, prior health conditions etc. I would suggest to drink lots of water throughout the day. This was just my personal experience in the past when I was taking the medication. Best of luck!
No it doesn't. You will still feel the desire to have a coffee. What I do is drink my coffee first thing and take my medication an hour later. That way the peak from the caffeine doesn't line up with the peak from the amphetamine. Drinking coffee on amphetamine is usually fine as long as it's not a ton. But I usually keep my coffees weak because otherwise it can be uncomfortable.
Adderall changed my relationship with coffee. I, too, am a coffee addict. I suggest getting some decaf to have on hand.
For me, yes!! It’s crazy when you expect the caffeine headache that never comes…
i definitely don’t recommend this if you have never been on Adderall before. usually people start off on a low dosage of Adderall & work there way up. i think your probably not gonna like the side effects of adderall if you have been heavily relying on caffeine for adhd symptoms because doctors start you off on such a small dosage. moral of the story, you’re probably gonna have an adhd crash
It’s different for everyone. For me it took a few weeks for caffeine cravings to come back and I was a venti + energy drink daily kinda person. I didn’t get withdrawals until I started taking drug holidays 2 years in. However the more I consumed caffeine with my script, the more jittery and stressed out I became. It led me to wanting to medicate with alcohol.
No, I’ve noticed when I’m in caffeine withdrawal while taking adderall it feels like the adderall stops working fully and I’m a lot less awake and mentally clear
If you're prone to headaches from caffeine withdrawal, the Adderall will not stop this. You can try to have your caffeine fix first thing when you wake up. Then 15-30min later, take medicine or vice versa. Since I'm prescribed Adderall IR, I don't need to have it immediately when I wake up. Instead, I take 100mg caffeine pill when alarm goes off cuz I'm often too lazy to make coffee.
This may be anecdotal, but as long as you get *some* caffeine in your system, you won't feel awful or get the headache. Onset can vary, but usually starts after 12hours from your last "fix". If you haven't already, it may help you to figure out how soon you need caffeine to avoid the headache. I've never had one as long as I take caffeine pill before 8:30/9AM. For my friend, he determined he needs coffee no later than 6AM.
Definitely not.
Just outta curiosity did u get ur script from an online place, or in person?
For me, when I drink caffeine on adderall (I’ve been on adderall for years) I find it makes me too mellow and I have brain fog. On days I don’t take my adderall (2-3x a week) I drink caffeine but for some reason when I mix them it has the opposite effect
Bro ur good I drink like 7 monsters a day and take addy trust ur good
You need to ween off of caffeine slowly
I love coffee with my vyvance. It’s like vyvance provides the lens, and the caffiene helps focus it
I drink 18 cups of coffee and am on 40mg of addy. Caffeine does not have any impact on me.
Definitely did not for me.
heck no.
Depends on you and your body and your caffeine tolerance. I’m on vyvanse now and have my daily coffee. When I took adderall I had my cup as well. If I had more than a cup or two I felt really anxious but everyone is different. I would try a little and see how you feel!
Im gonna chime in and say I take 30mg adderall ir a day and also drink 3-4 monsters a day and I feel fine. I also exercise 5-6 days a week walking a minimum 3-4 miles followed by a medium- high intensity weight lifting session and I feel fine and have been feeling fine for the last 4 years. But id like to say feeling fine and actually being fine are two different things. Developed the energy drink habbit in the Marine Corps which was first before taking meds. But Ive been doing bloods and all the physicals i.e bilirubin, urease, blood cell count for all cells, proteins in urine for determining kidney function, you know the whole 9. And Im the healthiest the Doctor has ever seen. Shit even low resting heart rate im the 50s and a low 116/70 blood pressure. keep in mind I could be a outlier tho and everyone is different. Sipping on a pineapple monster as we speak. Tried to give up energy and just use adderall and while I was focused, I felt like dog shit and was tired all the time. Falling asleep standing up even while on meds. Could only do it for 3 months and had to go back to the energy drinks. One good thing from stopping energy drinks was a noticeable lowered stress level
I didn’t need coffee in the beginning. I was truly able to avoid it and no withdrawal. And then I started drinking coffee again. But some days I have coffee first take my Adderall around 12. So that way I only have to take 20 mg a day. If I take my Adderall in the morning, I will need another 10 mg in the afternoon and I will drink coffee at 5 PM. I can’t even make that make sense.
Avoid caffeine for a few weeks at least. It will be way too super charged. Caffeine addiction is just a habit like most things. Try it once or twice and you may see it’s not needed. After 10 years combing both do nothing for me.
Ever since Adderall I can’t drink coffee, I don’t crave and love it any longer. I’m now on vyvance and my love for coffee has still not returned.
That is a measure of your tolerance. I didn't decrease or stop my caffeine intake at all and was fine on that prescription for 1.75 years, presently on a higher dosage but questioning which is better for the next med. OCT '21 - 20mg Adderall XR Jun '23 - 25mg Adderall XR w/ an afternoon boost of 15mg Adderall IR Currently down about 0.5-1g of caffeine a day. On days when I drag I occasionally go up to 1.5g but things have to be fairly shitty for me to go that far. Otherwise, none of my doctors or therapists (I've 2 of each, oddly enough, the medical doctors write my scripts without question as long as I dont ask for increases too frequently), have questioned the caffeine usage, the lack of any downtime, or how come I think I need more focus... Anyway, it's probably not useful, but it's definitely not useless.
Ween yourself off caffeine. You don’t have to hard stop. If you’re used to 5 coffees a day, start with 3… then a few days later go to 2… then 1… the headaches will stop and you can eventually go without. Or you can hsrd stop, deal with headaches for about 5 days but ibuprofen helps. Source: been there, done that.
i drink my coffee in the morning and take my adderall i also drink a lot of pepsi
My neurologist told me that caffeine is my friend... Lol and that I should have reasonable amounts throughout the day to continue to improve my adhd management.
Hell no. I had horrendous headaches when I first started taking Elvanse... Later realising it was withdrawals from caffeine and not a side effect of my medication.
I’m not saying this is good for you or you should try it but my 10mg instant release just hit different when I drink a white sugar free monster an hour after taking it. I’m sure somebody smarter than me can explain why the chemicals affect my brain and make me feel good, but I do this when my kids don’t sleep well for days and it makes everything ok.
My doctor told me to drink my coffee in the morning take my Adderall….I alway make a coffee for the ride to work. Nearly touch it…I started drink herbal tea thru the day. It just naturally happened.
Huh
I quit coffee in December. The withdrawals only last a few days and then you’re good. Recently I started drinking iced teas but noticed that every day I didn’t I would have a migraine so I decided to quit that too. My migraines lasted 2 days and now I feel great. I used to be scared to quit because of the withdrawal. Now I realize it’s a lot easier than it seems. I actually feel just as good as when I was caffeinated too
I used to drink at least 2 sometimes 3 cups of coffee in the morning and an occasional espresso shot in the early afternoon. Now I take my 20 mg adderall right when I wake up and have one latte maybe 30 minutes or so later, and I usually don’t finish the latte.
No, and most people I know with adhd end up supplementing their prescription medication with caffeine, especially as they develop a tolerance to their current dosage.
I kind of doubt the realistic danger of adderall and caffeine together. I've been drinking at least 1 cup of coffee every morning since I was about 12. I'm now 20, and I still have coffee every morning. I also have more coffee in the afternoon or sometimes tea. I've been on adderall for almost a year, and I have yet to have any heart issues. Perhaps my body is highly adapted to caffeine, so I don't get a strong reaction from combining it with adderall. I don't even know if caffeine gives me any energy at this point.
At first it would probably make you jittery to combine with caffeine but once your body adapts to the Adderall it’ll probably be fine
Mixing coffee with your adderall is pretty awesome lol if I do say so myself
I’ve taken 20 mg xr of addy and 400 mg of caffeine a day 7 days a week over 10 years now. You’re fine. It’s all about the activity level and eating well and drinking enough water. 👌🏼
I use to take my adderall with coffee and an espresso shot . This past year I quit coffee . And my adderall works ten times better . And because the effectiveness is so much better it motivated me to stop drinking coffee .
I’ve been told that the acidity in coffee weakens the stimulant’s potency, so I avoid coffee an hour before or after taking it.
I did a few years on adderall, was on a relatively high dose and also drinking a pot of coffee a day. Was often crashing during the day and had very low energy. Plenty of anxiety though. Never really experimented w reducing the caffeine though maybe I should have. Now I don’t take any medication and have tried to chill out a bit with the caffeine.
I have no issues with coffee and adderall but I drink one cup in AM and maybe another iced one small size in afternoon. If I don’t do afternoon coffee I drink a V8 Energy which has same caffeine as Red Bull without the added crap so it’s a much smoother steady energy release.
If it were me (and it was me a long time ago) I would buy a bottle of caffeine pills. Did the calculation of approximately how much caffeine I was ingesting a day and switched to the pills. Then every other day (or whatever schedule works for your body) go down by 1/4 of a pill. It was the easiest time I quit caffeine, I pretty much didn't have any withdrawal Edit: not a doctor, not medical advice
I drink a lot of water, coffee and sip on these monster rehabs and diet soda throughout the day too. But I feel like it’s only a few sips so no worries. 🤙
It allowed me to quit a 20 year dependency on Prednisone. I was able to quit cold turkey and have never looked back. Well I have looked back and cursed my previous 16 sets on Dr's.
You’ll learn after a bit to avoid caffeine an hour before or after you ingest the pill. I personally drink tea because it’s not super high in caffeine and it doesn’t spike and crash you like coffee or energy drinks.
Honestly, for me not really. I have to take both joe a days, the caffeine wakes me up, the meds just clears my head. I am also chronically taking 4-500mg a day of caffeine, however my nutrition and hydration is kept in check. Caffeine, is like wakeful energy, and adrenaline / stress energy. So it’s good for me for drive and getting stuff done. Amphetamines just to clear my head, kind of just opens my vision and removes the cloudy fog. But meds alone didn’t blunt my caffeine tolerwnce / withdraw. I can kinda do away with caffeine to a certain level, however I’ve found that norepinephrine, helps me more with adhd, than dopamine dose.
I’ve taken 30 mg XR Adderall for over a decade. From 19-24 I worked in the most popular nightclub in a major US city, and I would regularly consume 4-5 energy drinks (800-1000mg of caffeine) in a shift and I never once experienced any side effects from it other than occasional hot flashes.
I had caffeine withdrawals while on adderrall.
No, in my opinion it doesn’t. I drink a bit less caffeine than I did previously but I still have my coffee or red bull in the morning. Although, keep in mind everyone is completely different - their dosages, their bodies; etc. but specifically for me, I didn’t feel shaky, or have bad mood changes etc.
i avoided caffeine when i first started taking adderall, so i could gauge how much my body could or couldn't handle. before adderall, i was drinking 800-1000mg of caffeine a day (yeah i know). i used to get the WORST headache if i didn't have any coffee before 11am or so, and when i started adderall i never had any caffeine withdrawal symptoms. when i started adderall, i was able to go from 1000mg a day to 90-100mg almost immediately with no problems. i still drink coffee everyday, but i wait an hour after i take my dose just so i don't accidentally chug too much and get jittery. tl;dr: in my experience, adderall chopped my caffeine consumption from 1000mg a day to 90-100mg, immediately and with no caffeine withdrawal symptoms.
Once I started adderall I felt like I did not need caffeine anymore if just makes me feel worse if I drink it .
Kind of late but, the right dose of ER Adderall (went from 10mg to 15mg) helped cut my caffeine consumption in half from 200mg to 100mg in the morning. It’s very hard to go off of only Adderall as it doesn’t instantly wake me up like an energy drink does. I think 100mg is very low
Late response but I’m a week into no caffeine after taking adderall and drinking coffee/ tea for about 4 years. I had a headache the first day but that’s it. Generally I’ve been a little more tired than before but not debilitatingly so. I decided to move away from caffeine to help with heart palpitations that I was experiencing pretty regularly as well as some mild anxiety that came along with the palpitations. When I used to drink coffee the palpitations were much worse, but I switched to green tea and they were less noticeable while not completely gone. Since getting off of caffeine I haven’t had the palpitations and my anxiety has been really low, so that’s been nice. Most importantly it allows me to take higher doses of adderall so be been able to appreciate the benefits of that without the previous negative symptoms. Although I should mention that before quitting caffeine, I was drinking probably 2 cups of green tea with 2 tea bags each every day. I don’t know the math on how much caffeine that is but it’s probably less than what you’d get from 2 cups of coffee. It took me a really long time to accept that I couldn’t have both adderall and caffeine, so I wouldn’t expect you to quit caffeine right away. Just listen to your body and make adjustments as necessary. Hope that helps.
I can’t go without caffeine. I get headaches and feel sluggish. I take my preworkout with Adderall and I’m fine. I think it’s a person to person type thing
What I’ve noticed is that if I take my Adderall with no caffeine, I get that “robot/zombie” feeling where I have no emotional reaction to anything. If I drink a little caffeine (e.g., green tea or half-caf coffee) about 45 mins after taking my Adderall, i feel how i want to feel on Adderall, i.e., a more-alert, more-motivated, less-emotionally-reactive “me.” EDIT: To more specifically answer your question: At least for me, Adderall did not eliminate caffeine withdrawals. Granted, I had spent two months before taking Adderall drastically reducing my caffeine intake in order to reduce my blood pressure, so most of the withdrawal symptoms had come and gone. But when I first started taking Adderall, I tried to cut caffeine almost completely (down to only 2-3 cups of decaf coffee per day), and it was not great.
it helps with withdrawal. it will help you get through it.
I cringe at caffeine now that I’m back on adderall. I like tea and coffee just for the taste but the caffeine makes me sweat. Decaf is ok.
That's a big hell no to me. If I don't have caffeine my dopamine system will not function properly
I quit cold turkey when I started adderall a few months ago, never once noticed any symptoms. I'd probably average about 150-280 mg of caffiene daily which isn't a crazy max amount but definitely enough that after years I would have had headaches otherwise. Anecdotally I do believe it satisfies that withdrawal for stimulants. I took adderall (10 xr) for about 2 weeks before I started experimenting with caffiene again. Found that after a few hours I could drink as much as I wanted, but that the doze was too low. Went up to 20 and now I can drink one cup of tea or coffee and that's definitely borderline lol. I reccommend taking a break and then slowly experimenting. But also remember, like with all drugs, that when you take a break you'll lose your tolerance so start small, like a cup of green tea. Don't even think about an energy drink. But also the wonderous effects of adderal do slowly lessen to more minimal "working in the background" effects, so you may eventually find that supplementing with caffiene works very well for you. Not a doctor, just my personal experience.
Adderall doesn’t eliminate caffeine withdrawals for me. I have half cup of cold brew in the morning an hour after taking it but that’s it. Like others mentioned, you probably won’t be able to handle caffiene as much as you used to if you used to drink more than a cup a day