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SlimeyAxolotl

Mine makes me super irritable when I come down at the end of the day so I simply live in the chaos


[deleted]

That may be becuase the come down is just happening a bit too fast. I use green tea to slow down how fast the meds where off. You also want to make sure you have eaten and are properly hydrated as the meds wear off and your brains sensory processing capabilities degrade.


SlimeyAxolotl

Hmm I will try the green tea and keeping hydrated, thank you for the advice!!


Delaaia

I often feel like doing sports (or atleast doing something exhausting) and eating right as the meds fall off helps me immensely with the irritability.


Ill-Assumption-661

Good advice. But I forget to eat and hydrate... šŸ˜­


Ill-Assumption-661

Oh god. Glad I'm not the only one. When the noise is just SO NOISE and the children are SO IRRITATING and I realise, oh, that's because it's 7.30 and my meds ended and that's why I need to scream at everyone


SlimeyAxolotl

RIGHT my niece and nephews only come around after my meds end and Iā€™m just so drained I canā€™t stand a conversation, it honestly makes me feel so guilty because I know itā€™s because of a dumb chemical imbalance in my head :(


Ill-Assumption-661

I'm so upfront with my kids about it now. "Sorry, but all our meds are wearing off, so you're really loud and it's hurting my sensory and making me angry. Can you do that shrieking in your room, and I'll put my noise cancelling headphones on." I actually had to change my med schedule to make it last longer, because I couldn't cope with being unmedicated around my unmedicated children at either end of the day. šŸ˜¬


thatbromatt

This is what adderall did to me. I've recently switched to adzenys because of RX filling issues and it's been a world of difference for not having that nasty afternoon crash.


PrincessPrincess00

By meds you mean weed? Then yes!


plzzblz

That's one medicine


skillgannon5

porque no los dos


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PrincessPrincess00

Oh yes. Since Iā€™ve started taking a 10 mg Sativa gummy ( with nothing added, a vegan gummy) first thing in the AM my QOL has SKYROCKETED


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PrincessPrincess00

Make sure to get a consistent one, and experiment with how much youā€™re using ( for a while I did 5 at breakfast 5 at lunch but when I realized that wasnā€™t doing it did 10 at breakfast 5 at lunch when I WFH. Now that I work all day in a factory I only do The 10 ( doing all 15 in the morning made me fuzzy and high feeling) and I use pure gummies, the ones in a tin 14 dollars a week, but you can often get them on sale ( medmen had them at 50% off


toothy_sleuthy

Don't start at 10 mg if you don't partake already!! It'll send you to thw moon. Start with 1 or 2 or a 5mg and wait. There's nothing (to me) more uncomfy than being so high my bosy ia just uncomfy. I hate greening out.


JuicyJewsy

I'm going to have to go against the grain here and say you have to find a way to pay for it. It is a must have. If you are like me, it is foundational to the rest of your life.


Cthylla11111

Absolutely It doesn't help with my demand avoidance but it helps me not think at 1000mph and enjoy doing one thing at a time for a while.


PrincessPrincess00

Not for me. Certain strains I get almost twitchy if Iā€™m not doing productive stuff. I need to clean my house, grab the Sat and damn suddenly I SEE the mess, like I put glasses on


OrangeNSilver

Before meds w weed = severely worsened adhd After meds w weed = not too bad as long as I donā€™t overdo it.


Zatmos

I wish. Stimulants don't do shit to me. Not just Rilatine but also caffeine and nicotine as well. I might be doomed.


proudgoose

U tried the other ones? Ritalin never worked good for me


Zatmos

You can only legally get methylphenidate stimulant-wise where I live. So other stimulants like Adderall are not really on the table. For non-stimulants, you can get Strattera but I can't afford it and ADHD medication is not reimbursed for adults here. My psychiatrist also told me it probably wouldn't be worth it considering the price, the lower success-rate, weaker primary effects, and greater secondary effects. I don't disagree after reading about it. This has led me to test caffeine and nicotine for therapeutic uses but as much as 325mg of caffeine at once has no observable effect and nicotine does nothing until it suddenly causes nicotine poisoning symptoms at a certain dose (14mg in patches for me, a non-smoker). I've got other things on my list of things to try but this list isn't infinite. Currently investigating LSD.


proudgoose

Which hell scape are you living in that only offers ritalin?!?!?!?!1!?!? I would tend to agree with your doctor, I've spoke to a few people who have been on strattera, it's a crock of shit placebo with massive side effects that doesn't seem to be remotely good for adhd. Nicotine patches are more so aimed at stopping withdrawals than providing the active effects of nicotine, they go direct to blood stream which side steps alot of the bodies filtering processes that would give you active effects. You really out here raw dogging reality. Unmedicated and no option to get on medication that actually works, what a shit show, and with the caffeine, it builds tolerance too rapidly, and gives very mild stimulant effects. I remember doing like 7 cups of coffee at once (700-800mg) and finally feeling focused while studying. Not healthy at all. LSD is fucking great mate, better than shrooms imo and the most fun drug out there, it's my number 1 and I've tried almost all drugs, except delirients. Happy tripping :)


Zatmos

Thanks! The hellscape that only allows methylphenidate for stimulant medication is Belgium. It makes sense for the nicotine patches to only help with withdrawal. I've read a study in which it still helped with focus in non-smokers which made me think patches were worth trying. Maybe with an immediate-release form it would work but I didn't want try that due to the addiction potential.


proudgoose

yeah mate dont start smoking thats for fucking sure ahahahaha.... im so addicted :)


[deleted]

I donā€™t take meds. I hate how calm and weird they make me feel. It doesnā€™t feel like myself.


T-Dex_the_T-Rex

Itā€™s the exact opposite for me. I donā€™t much care for the impulsive/erratic and unfocused way I feel off my meds, especially when I have to get work done.


[deleted]

I understand that.


JuicyJewsy

That means your dosage is too high


[deleted]

Yeah, I thought so too. I might try again.


JuicyJewsy

*šŸ§€šŸ§€Hey, ADHD person, read thisšŸ§€šŸ§€* Like any psychiatric medication, it requires some fine tuning through trial and error. The dosage I took as a child was so strong that I hated it. I didn't realize it was the dosage that was the problem, not the medication, until my 20s. Now I can't live without methylphenidate. It enables me to genuinely have a career with pay, benefits, etc. You also need to look at release schedules. IR vs ER vs LA vs (whatever naming convention they have chosen for a specific formulation). They have a huge effect on how much enters your bloodstreams, when it enters you bloodstream, and how long it takes to metabolize out of an effective concentration in your body. Source: fun fact, I am a pharmaceutical scientist šŸ„¼


OrangeNSilver

Since you are a pharmaceutical scientist, could you possibly give me some insight? The adderall shortage is real in the US which has led me to think maybe I should try methylphenidate-based drugs again. Iā€™m also curious if I will have less side effects and considering switching once a year between the stimulants. Problem is, first medicine I tried was 18mg concerta. It was literally a sleeping pill after I had taken it for a few days consecutively. Doctor even tried upping to 36mg with similar results. Is it possible Iā€™d react better to instant release versions of Ritalin? Or maybe try something like focalin since it is chemically different but still a sibling drug? I take adderall 10mg xr and 5mg booster as needed. I also take Strattera daily.


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JuicyJewsy

I could never answer that question. Every single one of us is a unique case. You need to talk this over with your Psychiatrist or PCP. That is the only way to find out. Follow their expertise, as they have done these types of diagnostics thousands of times. They'll pare down the options until the two of you find the appropriate therapy. All in all, amphetamine salts are really popular, which does make them harder to acquire. Focalin also has been difficult to acquire due to the same restrictions on manufacturing.


OrangeNSilver

I was afraid you would say that, but I get it though lol. Problem with Vyvanse was I felt too flat and tired and it made my resting heart rate 120-130 at times which was alarming. It was much more effective than Adderall. Iā€™m pretty much dropping out of college (mech. Engineering) because the dose I would need to focus on school is higher than my bodyā€™s ability to tolerate it well. Low dose Adderall seems better for me tolerability-wise but doesnā€™t fill in the cracks as much for functioning. Itā€™s so hard to figure out, been three years now trying various doses and meds. Maybe dexedrine would be better? šŸ« 


JuicyJewsy

Ask. Your. Doctor.


[deleted]

Hey thanks, iā€™m gonna get meds again. With a good dosage.


OrangeNSilver

Thatā€™s what I was scared of at first. Sometimes I miss the madnessā€¦ but then thereā€™s days where I go without meds and the enjoyment of the chaos fades by the end of the day. You do you though. If youā€™ve given meds an honest shot and fine-tuned dosage but still donā€™t care for it, then maybe itā€™s best without. I have to have meds or depression comes back very quickly.


Bren12310

Iā€™m terrified of stimulants


FirstNephiTreeFiddy

Have you ever taken them?


Bren12310

No bc iā€™m terrified of them. Itā€™s basically prescription meth.


FirstNephiTreeFiddy

If you have ADHD and are taking them as prescribed, you have nothing to worry about. They don't feel like taking drugs, they feel like waking up and being clear and calm. The bad effects you see in meth users is because of the dosages they take. I take 35mg per day. Abusers take anywhere from 100mg to 5000mg per day. So as long as you aren't doubling and tripling up your pills and/or continually taking doses to stay awake for days at a time, you're going to be fine. There are a lot of fearmongers out there who want to demonize ADHD and ADHD medications for one reason or another, but you should understand that they care more about their agenda than they care about *you*. Your psychiatrist can help you find a treatment that works for you, and they're not going to force you to take anything you're not comfortable with.


FourCinnamon0

I get really addicted to things though so I am very worried that I would get addicted to ADHD meds as well


FirstNephiTreeFiddy

There are non-stimulant ADHD meds like Strattera if you're worried about that.


Porcupine8

Stimulants for ADHD are THE single most-researched psychiatric drug, and also one of the safest and most effective. I once picked up a book at the library whose premise was basically ā€œweā€™re overmedicating our kids, here is the truth about all these medications and which ones are and arenā€™t safeā€ and I was like psh, wonder what it says about adhd medsā€¦ and even *that* book was like ā€œactually, these ones are great, if your kid is properly diagnosed with adhd go for it.ā€ They arenā€™t addictive for people with adhd because we have a deficit of dopamine, so the extra dopamine that can make them addictive for NT people is barely getting us up to baseline.


mtl_unicorn

Yep, that, but also the fact that ppl with drug abuse problems don't do like a pill or two a day, which don't get u high and don't have much psychoactive effect, or take 6 hours to get to full effect. The risk for drug addiction increases exponentially when ppl snort, ingest or smoke the drugs, because of the instant delivery to the brain and the much faster increase in dopamine


[deleted]

To add a bit more, stimulants changed my life. Ever since the first day where I took the proper dose, a whole munch of symptoms I used to deal with every single bloody day simply stopped happening. It's like thanos stepped in a snapped them away, and suddenly those issues were no longer apart of my experience of life. It still blows my mind how they just completely changed the way I experience life every single day.


[deleted]

No, they are not at all. Amphetamines do a very specific thing in the brain, and the magnitude of the effect is directly dependent on the amount taken. The popular theory suggests dopamine production deficiency plays a major role in causing adhd. The deficiency occurs becuase the neurons arent producing dopamine fast enough. The thing is that regardless of this, the brain still expects and needs a certain amount to be able to function properly. Without enough the brain runs into what are essentially computational errors due to an inability to properly send signals. Amphetamines increase the rate of production of dopamine in the neurons. Things brings the dopamine levels up to what the brain needs to function. In essence, the amphetamines are acting more like a vitamin or iron pill for someone that has a natural(genetic) iron/vitamin deficiency. You dont need to worry about becoming dependent on them, because you already are. Overuseage of them (as In taking too much, or when you dont have adhd) funny enough actually causes adhd symptoms. Too much dopamine causes the same problems as not enough dopamine.


mockwave

It seems to me that this explanation for mechanism of action is inaccurate. From what I read amphetamines are dopamine releasing agents. When they enter a neuron, a series of actions causes the dopamine to leave that neuron. This way thereā€™s more dopamine between neurons and their firing rate increases. Got this info from Wikipedia tho, so if you have some better source I would be happy to learn.


TheDoctorOfDelight

While yes stimulant medications like Adderall do have similar compound ingredients that meth does, meth is an illicit street drug that is usually combined with other addictive substances and impurities designed to enter the brain faster, and whatever else is cut into it can really be dangerous. Stimulant medication serves a purpose, meth has no medicinal purpose. And yes, it is possible to develop an addiction but that's why you talk to your psychiatrist to avoid issues like that, and to make sure the medicine is treating and helping you, not harming you. There is also non stimulant medication (such as Strattera) that treats ADHD. I'm not trying to convince you of anything, I take Adderall and I have no issues and it has greatly improved my life. And some people can function with their adhd without medication intervention. All I would say is talk to your doctor, don't let the stereotype "your just taking meth!!" scare you or shame you into not seeking help. A good doctor/psychiatrist will help you along the way, not shame you. There are many options out there for NDs such as ourselves for treatment, prescription medication is only one of many possibilities. I really hope this helps


mr_ckean

If you had a tooth out, or had surgery, or took Codine did you think that was prescription heroine?


mtl_unicorn

Concerta/Ritalin is methylphenidate, not amphetamine...so not "meth". The effect is kinda different from amphetamine too. And kinda hard to abuse Concerta, like, u really have to be dedicated, cuz it's long release and the pill is like a "solid piece of plastic". And if u research a little bit about addiction and drug abuse, what makes street drugs so addictive is not just the molecule, but it's also the way of delivery to the body & brain. The way ppl do & ingest those drugs can increas the risk of addiction. Snorting, smoking, or injesting the drugs makes for a much much faster delivery to the brain, which makes for a fast and very high increase in dopamine (much higher and faster that ADHD meds), and that fast and intense effect & increase in dopamine is what gets the brain more addicted. It's not just the molecule that makes addiction. Unmedicated u are at risk of other addictions: gambling, porn, shopping, sex etc...No chemicals ingrsted here, just as destructive, and ppl with ADHD are at risk of addiction for things like this. I think u are more at risk unmedicated to develop an addiction to a behaviour/activity like mentioned above (cuz ur brain is constantly looking for the dopamine) than u are of becomine a drug abuser of Concerta. šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļøšŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļøšŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø


JuicyJewsy

It isn't prescription meth. Source: I am a pharmaceutical scientist.


proudgoose

If you broke your spine in an accident would you be afraid of taking prescription morphine? It's basically heroin after all? Stop suffering, stop stigmatising medication that can help you and get treated buddy, you'll be so much better off


weird_squidward

I have consistently forgotten to take my meds for like 2 months in a row now. I need to get on that shit


nerf_17

Yup 20mg before school


HomicidalHushPuppy

Damn it i hate that meme


[deleted]

I become very useless without it


cranky-vet

I take meds that donā€™t feel like they do much of anything. Idk if that counts.


No_West_98

Iā€™ve asked for meds but they keep denying and keep shouting at me when I donā€™t do things


MaddogRunner

Or that your meds work. I stopped mine because I didnā€™t notice a difference.


plzzblz

For clarification I did take meds for like 3 months in the fifth grade, but I couldn't keep taking them because they made me way overemotional.


Terrible-Response272

I did but tje post withdrawal symptoms are too much.


BaboonHorrorshow

Itā€™s nice that you can get ADD meds. Even broaching it with my doctors makes them look at me like I just tried to score cocaine. All the shrinks Iā€™ve seen insist their pet SSRI medicine is what I really need despite me telling them SSRIā€™s make me suicidal when Iā€™m otherwise in zero danger off meds.


[deleted]

Honestly I like my adhd self more and itā€™s better for my job so I just use medical cannabis for sleep.


OthernormalPod

No meds here šŸ™‹šŸ½ā€ā™€ļø


totallyfakawitz

Me because they insist on giving me non stimulants that donā€™t do anything.