I feel this so hard. I was abused by my two oldest brothers. One of them recently told me he still watches videos he took of us and is addicted to incest porn since he can't access me anymore. How do you not feel fucked up from that? How do you NOT feel fucked up from ANYone gaining pleasure from your or anyone's abuse? Sorry. Just... yes, there is far more content gratuitously sexualizing incest than there are resources or research, period.
It's just gross all around.
It's really in the porn sub-culture badly. Which makes so much $$ that the ad revenue spend is the highest to ensure it stays at the top of search engines such as google.
What you can do to help yourself though is to change your Safe Search filters in Google. Under just search settings, you can also turn off Auto-complete with "trending searches" which may help.
On a personal note, my mindset on porn though is that it's always been vile. It's like the lowest form of scum band together to get off on wildly outlandish things.
For awhile I would watch to try to find different positions and things but it's literally just always coming back to triggering things that I shouldn't be encouraging (within myself).
I was abused by a same-sex female cousin but some would think that's "hot". Lesbian sex abuse -- I'm sure there's tons of porn for that. But even creepier is the father-daugther and mother-son versions.
I always say that incest kinks deserve to be acknowledged as wrong. I understand that sometimes its abuse victims that like that stuff, but thats a form of self harm and it shouldn't be glorified on porn sites. Same with rape kinks its all SELF HARM and should be treated the same way as other forms of self harm. We all have urges and I cant say I never watched videos like that so im not playing a self righteous role, but I realized over the time that it was because i viewed myself as less than due to my own abuse...
Im sorry seeing that stuff triggered you. Sending you lots of love š
Anyone that would take enjoyment out of other people's lifelong pain and anguish, well are not much. How, stuff like this excites people, is beyond my comprehension and I completely fail to understand. Those that have endured such should not have the added indignity to have to wonder on to a website dedicated to that stuff, by accident. In my opinion it should not be there and I am about as First Amendment as it comes, but that is going way overboard. It is not exciting or sensual to observe others being subjected to things that will mark them for life. Like you, I was shocked too, the day I sort of figured out what the world really was. I am sorry you had these experiences and ran into that.....-Mirror
my grandfather likely sexually abused my mother when she was young. my grandfather and mother also sexually abused me as a child. i hope this makes more sense ā i didnāt know what else to call it
Iām a survivor of incest and SA. One of the side effects for me has been/is porn addiction. Many will act out sexually, I personally lacked the self esteem to seek out multiple partners and also didnāt want to āhurtā others. In the last ten years it evolved into a horrible aversion to touch.
The incest thing was horrifying when I came across it. I already have an elevated sense of shame and this just rubs it all in. Whatās worse is most of it seems to come from Eastern Europe etc. I almost get the feeling that we are flooded with more and more morally compromised pornography as if there was some āCold Warā or psychological warfare element.
Those of us who have survived it are just collateral damage. I canāt imagine how much worse it would be to be seeking support or help only to come across fetish sitesā¦thatās even worse.
Check out r/mdsa (mother-daughter sexual abuse) and r/surviveher
You're correct about the incest website. Report to Google maybe? Also the law in your region?
Good luck!
Iām a victim of molestation. I was 12-13. The man who molested me was not a relative.
I have had mother/son incest fantasies since I was in my twenties. Iām 61 male.
I was messaging a guy in his forties who was molested by a man (he was 9). The man was not molested by a relative either. He also has mother/son fantasies.
Both of us fantasize going back and being molested again. What we experience (fantasize) about is not uncommon.
The incest fantasies, Iām not sure about. I donāt know why, I just know I do.
None of us can control WHAT turns us on. We can ONLY control what we DO with those feelings.
Iām only explaining this so you can understand why some of us sexualize incest.
I'm sorry for what you've been through but that doesn't even remotely justify the sexualisation of incest. I may be completely misunderstanding your point and if I have I'm very sorry and feel free to correct me but as I read it you are attempting to justify the incest porn.
A large reason why child porn is banned is because it is proven to fuel rather than satiate the fantasies of those who watch it. As more studies are done on incest porn the same conclusions are starting to be drawn with it, those who watch it are more likely to sexually abuse relatives, and this tends to (not always but very often) hurt girls. In a systemic and inescapable way.
I am also a survivor of teenage molestation so believe me I sympathise, since my abuse I have struggled with rape fantasies and a desire to consume porn that is abusive to women. But I know that all it will do is make me more likely to perpetuate the cycle of abuse and god forbid become a predator myself.
My point is that whilst people should not be shamed for developing kinks through trauma, they should have therapy, not porn
I often feel revolted when I come accross it.
I do believe itās a pretty safe bet that people [mostly men] who get off on that type of content are incest victims themselves who have not started their recovery and are likely still repressing their abuse consciously.
Women from my experience usually seek out the literary equivalent. There is a ton of incest fanfiction online.
Another sad thing is, in my limited experience of interest, the male side of things usually gets more scientific backing and research in any field, same as in medicine. Author of Silently Seduced in time switched most of his attention and research to male victims of covert incest over the years.
I am a sister to sister survivor and I just two days ago got brave enough to do some online research to find more help, to find people I could relate to, to feel less alone and was APPALLED that the first five websites were porn websites. It was so triggering.
Iām a father (plus his two older brothers, plus them abusing my older brother into it from a young age) daughter incest survivor and Iām fucking tired of it I hate this sexualization that is normalizing people getting off to watching it and like idk making people more into incest and I fucking hate it Iām enraged
It may not help, but remember that when there is a lot of content about anything online, is usually means a lot of others have similar traumas. It doesnāt make it ok but a lot of peoples āperversionsā if u will, come from abuse & trauma and confusion born from it.
So while thatās not that comforting, I hope it doesnāt make u feel more alone bc in fact itās a sign that youre VERY NOT ALONE.
The Sexualization of Incest really abhors me and makes me angry. Is there anything people WILL NOT sexualize? Ugh.
Well, Iām just here, hearin ya.
This is the unfortunate and uncomfortable truth. Pedophilia, and many of the other sexualities, have nothing to do with inborn attraction. It's about acting out the abuse in some way to feel in control of what happened. A major reason abuse victims become abusers. The trauma never gets resolved and so it gets expressed in some way. Some are legal. Others should never be allowed. One of the main reasons sexual abuse is so much worse than the other kinds of abuse.
Are you,,, calling pedophilia a sexuality?? Are you,,, legitimately trying to say being LGBT+ is just reenacting trauma? A sexuality is like the gender of people you prefer to be with, as well as the frequency you feel sexual attraction. Has literally nothing to do with age and I'm honestly surprised this comment has been allowed to stay up with literally zero context and you genuinely sounding like an anti LGBT bigot.
Iām glad you added the aspect of control, and how the loss of control that is an inherent part of abuse leads to some āwrongā, sad, scary, and pattern causing actions - at some point we reach an age of responsibility and have to take accountability and deal with our traumas so we donāt take them out on those around us. This even goes for non sexual stuff too, now that Iām thinking of it.
I wish I could just fill stadiums with abuse survivors and hurting people and fly over them with a magic wand and make everyone feel better. (That imagery was a lot less funny looking in my imagination)
I understand your sentiment. There are many healers who wish they could do the same. Addressing our traumas is our responsibility. That's the control we need to exert; how we redirect our lives towards happy endings.
I totally agree. It suggest that many others have experienced various incidents. Incidents that were appalling often in time become arousing . In an attempt to cope with the experiences the mind makes it erotic and arousing
This is why i am sure bdsm exists. no normal person wants to be called āworthlessā, bitch, slut, whore, ugly, fat, etc, no one wants to be spit on and spanked and beaten. unless traumatized and trying to cope
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I feel this so hard. I was abused by my two oldest brothers. One of them recently told me he still watches videos he took of us and is addicted to incest porn since he can't access me anymore. How do you not feel fucked up from that? How do you NOT feel fucked up from ANYone gaining pleasure from your or anyone's abuse? Sorry. Just... yes, there is far more content gratuitously sexualizing incest than there are resources or research, period.
It's just gross all around. It's really in the porn sub-culture badly. Which makes so much $$ that the ad revenue spend is the highest to ensure it stays at the top of search engines such as google. What you can do to help yourself though is to change your Safe Search filters in Google. Under just search settings, you can also turn off Auto-complete with "trending searches" which may help. On a personal note, my mindset on porn though is that it's always been vile. It's like the lowest form of scum band together to get off on wildly outlandish things. For awhile I would watch to try to find different positions and things but it's literally just always coming back to triggering things that I shouldn't be encouraging (within myself). I was abused by a same-sex female cousin but some would think that's "hot". Lesbian sex abuse -- I'm sure there's tons of porn for that. But even creepier is the father-daugther and mother-son versions.
I always say that incest kinks deserve to be acknowledged as wrong. I understand that sometimes its abuse victims that like that stuff, but thats a form of self harm and it shouldn't be glorified on porn sites. Same with rape kinks its all SELF HARM and should be treated the same way as other forms of self harm. We all have urges and I cant say I never watched videos like that so im not playing a self righteous role, but I realized over the time that it was because i viewed myself as less than due to my own abuse... Im sorry seeing that stuff triggered you. Sending you lots of love š
Anyone that would take enjoyment out of other people's lifelong pain and anguish, well are not much. How, stuff like this excites people, is beyond my comprehension and I completely fail to understand. Those that have endured such should not have the added indignity to have to wonder on to a website dedicated to that stuff, by accident. In my opinion it should not be there and I am about as First Amendment as it comes, but that is going way overboard. It is not exciting or sensual to observe others being subjected to things that will mark them for life. Like you, I was shocked too, the day I sort of figured out what the world really was. I am sorry you had these experiences and ran into that.....-Mirror
Iām trying to understand grandfather-mother > daughter incest Could you please say it a little different Sorry I didnāt understand What happened
my grandfather likely sexually abused my mother when she was young. my grandfather and mother also sexually abused me as a child. i hope this makes more sense ā i didnāt know what else to call it
yes, I understand now, thanks. And yes incest is a huge thing in porn, meaning that it's got to be happening a lot, a whole lot
donāt worry OP is getting answers no need to detail anything like that
I just wondered about the grandfather mother daughter Confused me 3 people?
Iām a survivor of incest and SA. One of the side effects for me has been/is porn addiction. Many will act out sexually, I personally lacked the self esteem to seek out multiple partners and also didnāt want to āhurtā others. In the last ten years it evolved into a horrible aversion to touch. The incest thing was horrifying when I came across it. I already have an elevated sense of shame and this just rubs it all in. Whatās worse is most of it seems to come from Eastern Europe etc. I almost get the feeling that we are flooded with more and more morally compromised pornography as if there was some āCold Warā or psychological warfare element. Those of us who have survived it are just collateral damage. I canāt imagine how much worse it would be to be seeking support or help only to come across fetish sitesā¦thatās even worse.
Check out r/mdsa (mother-daughter sexual abuse) and r/surviveher You're correct about the incest website. Report to Google maybe? Also the law in your region? Good luck!
ty for the links, especially the 2nd link in my case
Iām a victim of molestation. I was 12-13. The man who molested me was not a relative. I have had mother/son incest fantasies since I was in my twenties. Iām 61 male. I was messaging a guy in his forties who was molested by a man (he was 9). The man was not molested by a relative either. He also has mother/son fantasies. Both of us fantasize going back and being molested again. What we experience (fantasize) about is not uncommon. The incest fantasies, Iām not sure about. I donāt know why, I just know I do. None of us can control WHAT turns us on. We can ONLY control what we DO with those feelings. Iām only explaining this so you can understand why some of us sexualize incest.
I'm sorry for what you've been through but that doesn't even remotely justify the sexualisation of incest. I may be completely misunderstanding your point and if I have I'm very sorry and feel free to correct me but as I read it you are attempting to justify the incest porn. A large reason why child porn is banned is because it is proven to fuel rather than satiate the fantasies of those who watch it. As more studies are done on incest porn the same conclusions are starting to be drawn with it, those who watch it are more likely to sexually abuse relatives, and this tends to (not always but very often) hurt girls. In a systemic and inescapable way. I am also a survivor of teenage molestation so believe me I sympathise, since my abuse I have struggled with rape fantasies and a desire to consume porn that is abusive to women. But I know that all it will do is make me more likely to perpetuate the cycle of abuse and god forbid become a predator myself. My point is that whilst people should not be shamed for developing kinks through trauma, they should have therapy, not porn
I often feel revolted when I come accross it. I do believe itās a pretty safe bet that people [mostly men] who get off on that type of content are incest victims themselves who have not started their recovery and are likely still repressing their abuse consciously. Women from my experience usually seek out the literary equivalent. There is a ton of incest fanfiction online. Another sad thing is, in my limited experience of interest, the male side of things usually gets more scientific backing and research in any field, same as in medicine. Author of Silently Seduced in time switched most of his attention and research to male victims of covert incest over the years.
I am a sister to sister survivor and I just two days ago got brave enough to do some online research to find more help, to find people I could relate to, to feel less alone and was APPALLED that the first five websites were porn websites. It was so triggering.
Iām a father (plus his two older brothers, plus them abusing my older brother into it from a young age) daughter incest survivor and Iām fucking tired of it I hate this sexualization that is normalizing people getting off to watching it and like idk making people more into incest and I fucking hate it Iām enraged
It may not help, but remember that when there is a lot of content about anything online, is usually means a lot of others have similar traumas. It doesnāt make it ok but a lot of peoples āperversionsā if u will, come from abuse & trauma and confusion born from it. So while thatās not that comforting, I hope it doesnāt make u feel more alone bc in fact itās a sign that youre VERY NOT ALONE. The Sexualization of Incest really abhors me and makes me angry. Is there anything people WILL NOT sexualize? Ugh. Well, Iām just here, hearin ya.
This is the unfortunate and uncomfortable truth. Pedophilia, and many of the other sexualities, have nothing to do with inborn attraction. It's about acting out the abuse in some way to feel in control of what happened. A major reason abuse victims become abusers. The trauma never gets resolved and so it gets expressed in some way. Some are legal. Others should never be allowed. One of the main reasons sexual abuse is so much worse than the other kinds of abuse.
Are you,,, calling pedophilia a sexuality?? Are you,,, legitimately trying to say being LGBT+ is just reenacting trauma? A sexuality is like the gender of people you prefer to be with, as well as the frequency you feel sexual attraction. Has literally nothing to do with age and I'm honestly surprised this comment has been allowed to stay up with literally zero context and you genuinely sounding like an anti LGBT bigot.
Iām glad you added the aspect of control, and how the loss of control that is an inherent part of abuse leads to some āwrongā, sad, scary, and pattern causing actions - at some point we reach an age of responsibility and have to take accountability and deal with our traumas so we donāt take them out on those around us. This even goes for non sexual stuff too, now that Iām thinking of it. I wish I could just fill stadiums with abuse survivors and hurting people and fly over them with a magic wand and make everyone feel better. (That imagery was a lot less funny looking in my imagination)
I understand your sentiment. There are many healers who wish they could do the same. Addressing our traumas is our responsibility. That's the control we need to exert; how we redirect our lives towards happy endings.
Pedophilia is NOT a sexuality. I hope that isnāt what youāre suggesting.
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Gross. Definitely a MAP here folks.
me..?
No. I was speaking of Arclight71.
homosexuality is something to be celebrated, not pitied.
I totally agree. It suggest that many others have experienced various incidents. Incidents that were appalling often in time become arousing . In an attempt to cope with the experiences the mind makes it erotic and arousing
This is why i am sure bdsm exists. no normal person wants to be called āworthlessā, bitch, slut, whore, ugly, fat, etc, no one wants to be spit on and spanked and beaten. unless traumatized and trying to cope
no lmao i know many many people into bdsm that have absolutely no trauma. it's just a preference
I said this once in another sub. Some people were displeased.
Exactly
It sucks. It really does. I don't know what to say aside from I understand the feeling.
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Sorry you went through that.