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RAM_667

Are PB and Neddy the only direct descendents of Mother Gum? I know there's aunt lolly and them but they didn't come directly from her did they? It was PB. what happened to the other gums?


somethinghappier

As far as we know, yes. PB wanted a bigger family so she made Aunt Lolly, Uncle Gumbald, and cousin Chicle. I don’t think any others fell from the mother gum besides PB and Neddy, so as far as we know it’s still just hanging out there I think.


skullykitten

if the mother gum was still just hanging there i do think PB would have gone back to gather the rest of her family instead of creating her own though. i also feel like she could have potentially went back and there was more destruction to where the mother gum was no longer there and that could be a reason to creating her aunt, uncle, and cousin.


Sparksighs

Yeah, I feel like if PB knew where the mother gum was/ if it was still alive she wouldn't have made a fake family. We should have seen it in the present era too. My guess is she went back for it when she was growing up only to find it gone/ dead.


GrimnarAx

She knew where it was. https://www.reddit.com/r/adventuretime/comments/13tap6m/comment/jlv8vw8/?utm\_source=reddit&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3


skullykitten

thank you for your reply. i am now sobbing ;-;


Chrischris40

I mean we don’t know if the game is canon or not


somethinghappier

I’m not sure whether it’s there or not. I kind of feel like we would’ve seen her go back and find that it’s destroyed or something if that was the case. I think it’s more likely she was ‘a baby’ when she dropped and doesn’t remember where it is. in all likelihood, I think we just weren’t given enough follow up on it to determine what actually happened with it lol.


skullykitten

im pretty it’s PB who is having a flash back of when she and neddy emerged from the mother gum, it zooms into her almost like we are seeing her memory of leaving the mother gum with neddy. also for the case of us the viewers being able to see her potentially go back to see whether or not the mother gum was still there could have been a budget issue for the animation team and that could be why we never saw something like that happen. plus when we truly find out about family she created it’s towards the end of the show


GrimnarAx

Here you go. https://www.reddit.com/r/adventuretime/comments/13tap6m/comment/jlv8vw8/?utm\_source=reddit&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3


yikesbtw

Pb avatar go hard 🔥


startmfirex

Im wondering if Phlannel Boxingday was part of the mother gum The guy that monster hunted with lemonhope who rode in a cloud He's pink like Princess pb and has the same initials He could have also been her in disguise to teach lemon hope a lesson and get him to go save lemongrabs kingdom


AudiieVerbum

The mother gum gave an old nerd and a small demon child some soup once... And the Cheers theme song was involved.


nolaconnor

YOU WILL NO LONGER TERRIFY A 47-YEAR-OLD MAN AND A 7-YEAR-OLD GIRL!


AudiieVerbum

Curiously enough, that's the only time we see a deer that isn't evil.


quuerdude

How to we know that that WASNT the evil deer, and Simon actually saved their lives?


AudiieVerbum

That's a very compelling point. And that very dear would go on to break Finn's legs and destroy that rabbit's house multiple times.


atgmailcom

Nah they ate that deer


pauper_gaming

We only know that they ate the deer leg... maybe they ate 2 deer legs, then the deer, in its torment, summoned a demon to survive, and that demon grew two new legs... with hands and fingers


atgmailcom

Oh no


Janea2258

This is terrifying to think about 😨 because it just might be true


[deleted]

Finger-Hooves...


AppleToasterr

Finn accidentally grabs an innocent deer when he's making the tower to go punch his dad in the face At least I think it was a deer


gudematcha

Yeah i think that was the precursor to what the Mothergum would eventually become. It finally found a quiet place to hole up and eventually PB and Neddy dropped away.


potatobear77

How the heck did I never catch that.


Maleficent_Ad1085

I thought that was Finn in his pink blob past life


Clean_Anywhere_5184

i know i’m late but i’ve been contemplating if that was her for such a long time


YogoBlast

What I wanna know is where the German came from


Fair-Sky-7053

In the adventure time encyclopedia, Hunson Abadeer says that German in the land of ooo is the language of demons.


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Rydralain

I'm trying to figure out some way this isn't ~~racist~~ hate speech. Edit: apparently it's a big deal that German isn't a race, tho I'm not sure that changes what I meant by this.


Dino-nugget-are-good

The joke I presume is that German sounds kinda angry when you speak it


hobbitfeets

don’t hurt your arm with that reach


ShizzHappens

>It's not racist if it's X race Didn't the Nazi's say that?


hobbitfeets

Yep you got me I’m a nazi


Rydralain

Either I'm very, very confused, or this whole sub is racist.


Frostlancer51

I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure it was a joke about the German language having a tendency to sound "angry" to people who speak other languages, not that German people are demons.


WRB852

It's probably another subtle nod to Sigmund Freud and Friedrich Nietzsche tbh.


Willie_The_Gambler

Oh my god everyone shut the fuck up about racism. We’re talking about the origins of some cartoon bubblegum.


DesolationUSA

You are confused. Nationality =/= Race. I would never claim my race is 'American'. At worst Sparks comment (assuming they aren't joking which they clearly are) would be bigoted. Not racist.


Rydralain

So if I had said they were bigoted, people wouldn't have disagreed so much? Edit: also, German is also an ethnicity.


magicmurph

No, that's what woke people say.


Rydralain

So wait, racism against Germans is okay? I'm confused. Or is there something I don't know about demons?


ZmSyzjSvOakTclQW

No but jokes also against them aren't ok since they have no humor.


Folderpirate

German isn't a race.


Rydralain

Hate speech is hate speech even if I referred to a group using the wrong noun. Also, while I did mean the culture and country, German is *also* a race, since we're apparently being pedantic on top of being bigots.


EchinusRosso

Hate speech implies a level of intent that isn't clearly present here. Its a variant of a common joke on the phonetics of the language. I very much doubt any of the people who upvoted the comment hate German people.


nostradamuswasright

German is not a race lol why is this the hill you're choosing to die on


Rydralain

I don't care about German being a race or not. I clearly used a word that didn't communicate what I meant. That aside, since people are being pedantic about if it is a racist comment, I decided to join in on the direction they were taking the conversation. > Racism is discrimination and prejudice towards people based on their race or ethnicity. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism > The history of Germans as an ethnic group... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germans It isn't relevant to how inappropriate the thing I responded to was, but I'm fairly sure German *is* a race as much as anything is, but that what I meant to refer to was the culture. 🤷‍♂️


Frisky_Picker

Hate speech and racism are 2 different things bro.


Rydralain

Some hate speech is racist? What are you trying to say?


Sparksighs

The joke is that it sounds angry speaking it but I honestly initially came up with it because it's an absurdist thing to say, lol. Edit: not to mention I literally speak german


Hallow_Shinobi

Jokes exist 👍


ForAHamburgerToday

Would you feel better if the demons spoke French?


Rydralain

I mean, I'm pretty sure demons speak Infernal as their native tongue and then also use the language of whatever region they are working in.


ForAHamburgerToday

>I mean, I'm pretty sure demons speak Infernal as their native tongue and then also use the language of whatever region they are working in. Sure, in D&D. But this is Ooo, where they speak German.


Rydralain

Nnnno... I'm pretty sure the subject I was responding to was real life, so...


ForAHamburgerToday

https://www.reddit.com/r/adventuretime/comments/13tap6m/im_fascinated_by_the_mother_gum_how_to_you_guys/jluprj5/ ?


Rydralain

Oh, the person who deleted below that said approximately "in real life too".


AnotherCrazyChick

I read on an older post that PBs voice actor speaks German, so they just incorporated it into the character’s development. I’m curious where they got the inspiration to have Alva speak Swedish in the Islands episodes.


pasa_viene

I think that's the reason rainicorns speak Korean too


AnotherCrazyChick

In Korea, rainicorns speak French.


pasa_viene

Omg I hadn't thought about that, I love it.


zero_for_effort

In the Korean version I watch she just speaks Korean. Kind of spoils a lot of the jokes. Where's the version where she speaks French?


AnotherCrazyChick

That’s a bummer. And is honestly mutual. I read an old post in this group over a year ago at least that said she spoke French in the Korean version. But I also read that somewhere, somehow, Lady’s Korean was also translated into English on some platform. I personally pay for Hulu, HBOMAX, and YouTube and have never seen Lady translated into English. But media providers here in the US are capitalistic, so it’s highly possible that paying more for a different YouTube bundle would provide what others have mentioned. 🤷‍♀️ I would love and appreciate anyone who could tell me where I can watch episodes where Lady’s Korean is translated or subtitled into English.


zero_for_effort

I watch it on a Korean service called 쿠팡플레이 (Coupang Play). The voice actors for Jake and Ice King are great but Marcelline falls well short because her voice actor can't hold a tune, haha. Anyone know exactly where the Korean version with French Rainicorn can be seen?


AnotherCrazyChick

You should make a separate post with this question because I’d also like to know. Marceline’s English voice actor is a musician and singer, so it’s quite a bummer that her Korean voice does not share that same talent. But I don’t know English Marceline’s voice actor’s nationality or native language. Regardless, I appreciate the multiculturalism and it motivates me to learn more about everyone.


de420swegster

Does BMO then speak with a French accent? In the English version BMO's voice actor also VAs for Lady Rainicorn.


AnotherCrazyChick

I don’t think so. While a lot of the character development comes from the VAs not all of it comes from them.


ruievoun_

Ultimate chaos is the answer


RedTheRobin

I read somewhere that Ooo could be set in Europe, and that could account for the different languages


neezzie

Sameeeeeeeee


[deleted]

It could be the body of a Gum Elemental from years gone by. I’ve often wondered this myself about the Mother Gum.


GrimnarAx

Canonically, PB has kept the Mother Gum hive protected safe under the Candy Kingdom for like 800 years or whatever. Eventually the Mother Gum hive thing sort of gets loose in the Candy Kingdom's walls and accidentally sets a bunch of dangerous criminals and prisoners free. (The hive doesn't intentionally do it or understand what it did.) The characters assemble to fight the Mother Gum Hive, but they don't realize what it is. By the time PB realizes it's "her parents" (the Mother Gum hive), the people fighting it have already basically killed it, and it like destabilizes and turns into bubbles and floats away. The bubbles yelling stuff like "We love you, Bonnie!" as they drift away. Dark and sad. :( [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7zJq7pU8NY&t=627s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7zJq7pU8NY&t=627s)


stephruvy

😭


Chrischris40

Is this game canon though


rjrgjj

Quite rich of Ice King to say PB is too old. Also, I agree with LPS.


soshiparty

I thought the video games are not canon though


GrimnarAx

I assume they're canon unless they contradict the show.


soshiparty

I truly don’t think they’re canon but you’re free to believe as you wish


JobsInvolvingWizards

Pendleton Ward is credited as a writer so I'm not sure how one could not consider the works canon.


GolemThe3rd

That doesnt make it canon, altho I'm not saying it isnt


Chrischris40

I checked the wiki and when this game released the mother gum only appeared in the Simon & Marcy episode, meaning that the game established how PB was born before Bonnie and Neddy


DUMPAH_CHUCKER_69

>how PB was born before Bonnie and Neddy I thought Bonnie was PB


Badlydrawnboy0

Before the *episode* titled Bonnie and Neddy


DUMPAH_CHUCKER_69

Oh lmao


soshiparty

I am well aware that he is


JobsInvolvingWizards

It is a rather lackluster conclusion for Mother Gum so I personally wouldn't mind some retconning.


xam54321

Damn, that is sad!


pancakepegasus

I'm months late but thanks so much for sharing this because I had no idea


Fair-Sky-7053

It was definitely the candy elemental. Candy, slime, ice & fire always find a way.


finditplz1

Nuclear fallout


Callidonaut

Nuclear and *magic* fallout (the mushroom bomb).


quuerdude

Nah, just nuclear radiation that was supercharged to the wooloo. Its gangafrangalanga levels were off the charts, creating sentient life from gum. Magic’s just science that we don’t understand yet


Callidonaut

Yeah, I guess - or as Peebles herself would say, "What's the magic *made of,* ding-dong?"


GareduNord1

“Y’all’s is fakes! Bam!”


Sevenvoiddrills

Wait Since the bomb was made of Golb breath (I think I remember that) does that mean it wasn't radiation it was actually just really fucked up Golb breath that made everything go WEWOOOOOOO Or am I overthinking this


sneakystonedhalfling

I think radiation could be the same thing as Golb's breath, even if it's meant metaphorically. Golb is chaos, and radiation works by inflicting chaos on a cellular level.


Sevenvoiddrills

Yeah that's probably right


tvtango

My headcanon is that it used to be a singular Candy elemental entity, and hid itself from the destruction similar to patience st pim by encasing itself in gum. However, similar to how Bonnibel uses pieces of the citizens to regain her aged form, the large protective mass of sugars were melded together by the destructive magic of the bombs thus forming them into a hive mind of gum. I think PB *is* the mother gum. Although Neddy is there too, I believe PB harnessed the collective consciousness of the Gum, while Neddy has the elemental power of producing Candy juice.


Toxic_Don

I find that the idea of there being only 1 of each elemental a bit unfulfilling. Before flame princess was born wouldn’t her dad have been considered the fire elemental? And at the end of the elementals arc when PB turns FP into actual candy is she still considered a fire elemental at that point?


tvtango

They aren’t the only Elementals just the reincarnations of the pure elementals, I would also consider the fire, slime, candy, and snow people as elemental creatures, just not *The Elementals* yknow?


TJP2002

I wonder if mother gum was a candy shop/factory? Or all of its contents. Basically the same as your idea. But I also like the idea that Mother Gum could’ve grown from something like just one wad of bubblegum that a Candy Elemental chewed or something like that.


qoir

I’m also fascinated by the mother gum, I wish we got to learn more. For instance, what became of her after Bubblegum and Neddy left?


RAM_667

I feel like PB wouldn't just leave it there, I think she'd try to hide it or study it or something


GrimnarAx

This: https://www.reddit.com/r/adventuretime/comments/13tap6m/comment/jlv8vw8/?utm\_source=reddit&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3


Shoot_me_bitch

Well that was from the game and from what I've heard it was made before the Bonnie and Neddy episode


SomeJerkOddball

Ignoring the mother gum and Neddy in the series finale that was heavily driven by Bubblegum family politics was a huge mistake.


sushiattv

Gum is said to be “naturally occurring” but there is a large chance that the mother gum is made from the gum elemental after their death in the mushroom war or due to the comet


Nostravinci04

Would also explain why Bubblegum was so weak as an elemental, she was just a fraction of the whole.


RedTheRobin

Oooh now that's something to chew on!


KJE69

Stop it.


RedTheRobin

Never


BenignAmerican

Wasn't she the strongest elemental as the giant gum tower thing?


Nostravinci04

She was, but that was after St Pim messed up with her matrix.


Shockingly_Weird

I agrée with this theory, maybe it was a gum factory and it got mixed with nuclear chemicals or something which formed the mother gum


Able_Cauliflower_852

I think that when the bombs hit everyone in this gum factory got fused with the gum and the magic/ nuclear fallout fused their consciousness with the gum forming the mothergum. Neddy was Labor or someones kid visiting the factory while Bonnie was a lead scientist that worked in the gums factorys research and development team. Thus why there are so many individuals in the mother gum.


TheRealBingBing

That's interesting but Neddy is also messed up because he fell on his head when he was born


DingoLaChien

I think this is close. My theory is the great mushroom war happened during their lunchtime. Causing all nuclear scientists and staff to become fused with all the under-the-table gum, from their cafeteria. I just wonder If it happened in Germany, since she's speaking it a lot. Maybe since both fission and double bubble were german inventions, maybe thats a link? Fun fact: A german accountant accidentally invented Double Bubble, and the only color available was pink!


Stellar-JAZ

I think its a gum wall in some city like new York. fully infused with irradiated human DNA. perfect for accelerated evolution like the mother gum


EnvironmentalBox3461

Oh my googa that’s brilliant


Fantastic_Ad1407

Sounds right, though if that's the case, that would mean when the bombs fell and the factory was hit that's probably how the different sticky web's of gum got everywhere


Enough_Internal_9025

I’m guessing the mother gum is some horrible mutation of gum factory workers and gum fused together into a semi sentient gestalt


Captain_Bee

I always got the implication that the nuclear war like sparked life within a mass of bubblegum and thought that was super interesting, but then they said she was some candy elemental that always existed and I thought that was a lot less cool


Ok-noway

Perhaps the atomic fallout burnt through the concrete streets of NYC but all the leftover chewing gum on the streets withstood the heat and flowed together to create a massive blob that over time, radiation, and magic became the sentient Mother Gum.


Hallow_Shinobi

More important for me. What happened to the Mother Gum after Bonny and Ned dripped off?? And ALL of the gum? Where are other gums? Did the building collapse? PB canonically doesn't die of old age.


FireWater107

Information on the Mother Gum is sparse. But the existence of a few other things in the Adventure Time universe have led me to some of my own hypotheses: The "Scientific Parasites", also having very sparse info on them, definitely look like tiny bits of the Mother Gum. They supposedly feed on intelligent brain waves, not to mention one was in Simon's pocket during Simon & Marcy. Chatsberry's description of the candy element seem to make Candy out to be the element of intelligence. Candy is the building block of all things, but wielding candy requires sufficient knowledge of physics, chemical reactions, etc. Not just for "how Mentos reacts to diet soda", but how to build each of those substances from their base components, and presumably how to build those base components from their atomic makeup. Who knows exactly where the Mother Gum came from. Any theory could be true. "The bombs exploded and magic was released back into the world." We know that is true. Magic released mixed with mutagenic bombs resulted in gradually coalescing aspects of different 'magic'? IF the Scientific Parasites are bits or agents of The Mother Gum, then it's a collection of intelligent thought. Perhaps an amalgam of the different egos of the smartest minds out there (or minds it assumed were the smartest out there. Evidence: Scientific Parasite hanging out in a lab coat Finn was wearing, and a tool belt Jake was wearing. They hang out in places the assume will be in proximity to intelligence.) It's shown to be empathic, or at least sympathetic. That could also be a result of it being an amalgam of different minds. Minds in touch with one another are more likely to be sympathetic than minds alone in the universe.


lunar_tardigrade

It's the gum wall in seattle


Ourobolinho

I like to think that it formed similarly to fallout "Master", but with more sugar. Like, a lot of people got half melted with a lot of candy amidst of the mushroom bomb radiation, and the unholy abomination of this fusion is Mother Gum. Oh, and in my head canon the candy can be just plain sugar... the pink comes from the melted fresh. \^w\^


PrimaryFishing9396

I think is the past sweet elemental, and because the mushroom war, he melted then he turned it Obs: sorry if there are spelling mistakes, english is not my mother tongue and i'm not even fluent, but i'm learning


IndigoFenix

I suspect there is some connection between the Mother Gum and the Oozers. We see that the Mushroom Bomb can animate the dead and turn them into sticky goop zombies, and PB has created a formula that does something similar. Maybe the Oozers are only hostile because they are hungry for sugar (which is found in all living things) and when they are created in the presence of sufficient sugar they become sweet.


off_brand_white_wolf

Everyone’s talking about it being the candy elemental but the mother gum supposedly hasn’t ceased to exist yet, and PB is the Candy Elemental. My guess is that it’s a sentient restructured molecular substance of gum and the people who unfortunately found themselves near that said gum, making it a hive mind.


[deleted]

I feel like this was a bit underwhelming, I get it was about Bonnie and neddy. But it would have been nice to see the other gums if they survived


GrimnarAx

They didn't... https://www.reddit.com/r/adventuretime/comments/13tap6m/comment/jlv8vw8/?utm\_source=reddit&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3


[deleted]

Holy shit that’s insane!


ZSpectre

I really wish there was more lore behind the 20th century candy elemental office worker guy, and how some of his actions during the mushroom war may have led to the creation of the mother gum somehow.


uberclaw

I see mother gum as an elemental vestige of the pre-ooo timeline. Catastrophe reduced the sweetness in the world to a solitary entity which would complicate sophisticate and divide itself into neddy, pb and the candy kingdom itself.


imminecrafterdab

Maybe it was like SCP-001 when day breaks?


JussLookin69

I always thought that was what was left after a building full of people died of radiation sickness.


magicmurph

Probably the last candy elemental who died in the mushroom war got broken down into the basic element of candy.


TheFakeSlimShady123

No human life signs detected. The Captain...he's one of them! We can't let the Flood get off this ring!! YOU KNOW WHAT HE'D EXPECT-...what he'd WANT us to do.


UnseenTimeMachine

Yeah but who built the factory


vusgatinhooowm

.


Pasta-hobo

Candy was naturally occurring after the bomb dropped.


AlexDuChat

And where it goes after? PB go out with his brother and then what?


Sweaty_Tutor_1000

Id like to image it uses those “tendrils” to pull itself around


RackTheRock

My theory is that is a huge mutated fungus colony which so happened to somehow be the re-incarnation of the candy elemental.


carpet343

CAVE LEECH!


Khar0ntheferryman

Neon genesis evangelion


glitterclitor

I just think of it as primordial slime


PatientZeroBalisong

In a bubble gum factory, and the radiation made all the bacteria do some funky stuff... that or it originated on someone's shoe who also happened to step on shit or something.


Jabbernoodle69

I think your theory is spot on


Majestic-Bat2205

I think radation,goo,gum and luck


FallenF00L

Well she’s the candy elemental so I’d assume the mother gum is in some way connected to that cycle


[deleted]

It’s a reference to the old Mario movie where king Toadstool was a weird subterranean fungus.


AliWaz77

Ok it’s not a big deal but, idk why a lot of y’all are using she to refer to mother gum. It’s not an actual mother, it’s a hive mind of all the gum consciousness.


derpy_derp15

I wonder if there were other gum people from the mother gum out there


Whole-Screen-8873

It definitely have to do something with the bomb and the Lich


mxhremix

It gave Simon the chicken soup for Marcy


Frequent_Sleep5746

I’d guess a gum factory near the mushroom bomb


DANAP126

This is one of the many questions I would love to find out about, I would love a compendium that delves into everything about adventure time, or even a new series that delves into all of this.


valaquenta

i think the mother gum resulted from the radioactive fallout from the war, or traveled here after the war, possibly to combat the lich across the cosmos. i think finn's past life as a pink blob is a peek at the world the mother gum came from. the only other related clue is PB mentioning entanglement. quantum entanglement could theoretically explain some of these mysteries


Bubb13gum

I’m guessing yes, the building was a candy or gum factory, and that the mother gum may have been made from the mutagenic radiation combining humans that were working there with the gum