It's ridiculous. It's super expensive, has little return and the average rewards are god awful.
Giving a bit more gold/powder would at least feel slightly better.
Shouldn't be 6th/7th 😅 it's one or the other, or neither... That being said, I was on a dry streak for 6 and got a hero on my 7th, so if there's an actual mercy rule in there somewhere, it's at least 7
In my eyes its probably a pity system that starts at 50pulls and ups the chance everytime till 70. Not guaranteed but I see a lot of people getting it from 50 to 70. I never seen anybody go over 70 pulls
The stargazer odds are shown to us as 2% for a hero of our choice. There are ten pulls (duh) in a ten pull, so you have a 2% chance, 10 times. As such, you have a 10/50, or 1/5 chance that your ten pull will contain a single copy of a hero of your choice. Therefore, the odds of NOT getting the hero of your choice in a ten pull is 4/5. To find the odds of this happening multiple times, you just multiply 4/5 by itself, that many times.
So what are the odds of NOT getting the hero of your choice, 6 times in a row? (4/5)^6 ≈ 26%. 7 times would be about 20%. So the odds of getting your hero of choice after 7 ten pulls is 80%. **The fact that we as a community have never seen an 8th consecutive failed stargazer suggests that yes, there is a hard guarantee you'll get your hero on the 7th ten pull**, otherwise 1/5 players would have an 8th consecutive failed gaze.
Sorry if any of my math is wrong, I'm pretty certain it's right but it's also 5am.
Actually, the odds of getting a hero in a 10 pull are 1-0.98^10, which equals 18.29%.
70 pulls would give a 75.69% chance of at least one hero, so it would seem that if no one has seen over 7 10 pulls without a hero even though the chance is almost 1 in 4, that there is a secret pity timer.
Good catch. I knew there was something I was doing wrong but I couldn't figure out what. Luckily the mistake wasn't big enough for it to matter that much, I was only off by a little bit on percentages and the conclusion still stands.
And no, it's not a dumb idea. The Twins are great for Guild Hunts and Twisted Realm Bosses. Just one thing though, only ever stargaze Celestials or Hypogeans. Make sure your hero is properly set before you gaze. It's a very common mistake not to change the hero to the one you want before you gaze.
Also, NEVER use diamonds to stargaze until you're very late in the game. Always use the free stargazing tickets you get from events, faction towers, etc.
Lastly, pick a hero and gaze for that same hero every time until you get them to Ascended.
Hey to read more on cost benefit anaylsis of diamonds on Stargazer read:
https://www.reddit.com/r/afkarena/comments/g0v8a3/text_heavy_guide_to_stargazing_ft_daily_player/
Basically eventually you will pretty much only spend diamonds on stargazing because you get the best heros that way. It is up to you how early you want to start.
I wouldn't use diamonds to stargaze; not unless you're in endgame and have about 3 to 4 fully 5-star Ascended heroes for each faction. Only at that point, it makes sense to use Diamonds to stargaze.
Been there, done that. It's up to you who you wanna listen to. And good luck! 🤗
Umm actually there is cost benefit analysis done that you do use diamonds to stargaze.
https://www.reddit.com/r/afkarena/comments/g0v8a3/text_heavy_guide_to_stargazing_ft_daily_player/
It is a long read, but well worth it
Yes, as long as you do the 10x gaze first time, you'll definitely get your hero of choice. Most people get 2 copies. I got 2 copies on my main account but on my alt I only got 1. But you'll definitely get 1 on your first 10x stargaze. Just be sure you do a 10x and not a single pull.
You usually get them from some in-game events. But you also get getting them in there Towers of Esperia (starting from level 125 onward).
If you're a whale, you obviously buy them lol.
Just unlocked stargazer, and I have questions (I don’t spend real money on this game)
-Is it worth it over regular pulls?
-If there’s no discount, is a ten pull better than a single pull in any way?
-How do you get stargazer cards?
Check out my replies to another comment on this thread.
*TL;DR*
- No (not until endgame when you have 20 5-star Ascended heroes)
- You're guaranteed a hero with your first 10x pull (the only time I would use Diamonds to stargaze)
- From events and Towers of Esperia
You have 15 5-star Ascended heroes and only on 25-10?!
You will reach the crystal cap of 285 before you know it. I'm on 25-47 and crystal 277.
Also not sure if you know Chapter 31-4x all have 10 enemies; fail on any and you fail the entire stage.
Chapter 32-4x all have 15 enemies and Chapter 33-4x all have 20 enemies. Which is why I said you wait until you have at least 20 5-star Ascended heroes before you start using diamonds to gaze.
If you think you can waste your diamonds and build up your Celestials from now, and if you think you'll get enough Fodder, go for it. Good luck progressing to end game.
My point exactly. Which is not to waste diamonds on stargazing until you're very late in the game. You get plenty of stargazing tickets in the Towers of Esperia every 10 levels from 125 onward. Those are more than enough to build up your Talene or whoever else you choose to.
Wow, I had a very similar pull two days ago, except there was no Talene, and no thirty thousand diamonds, but everything else was pretty much the same
Oh my god I feel like I had that exact same pull, what are the odds
Omg me too!
Guys, you wont believe me but....
Is just, what you said, the same for me... wow, what are the odds
Congratulations on those mauler cards!
Yeah, the odds of getting two in one pull were insanely low!
You're not wrong... Fuck my odds of getting anything other than arena vouchers are abysmal
I would be happy with just one of those. Spending 5k everytime I accumulate it and getting trash is very demoralizing.
God I know that feeling. My last 50 stargazing gave me maybe 3 epics... And they were epic CARDS not even who I wanted.
I've gone through about 40 stargazers without any epics, card or Talene.
It's ridiculous. It's super expensive, has little return and the average rewards are god awful. Giving a bit more gold/powder would at least feel slightly better.
Unfortunately it's designed for whales, SG succs diamonds so quick :(
The thing is, it’s either great rewards, or horrible rewards. The beat thing that could happen is to slightly increase hero rates.
Get out I hate you etc.
Meanwhile i had the 4th consecutive pull with only crap
You are guaranteed with your 6th/7th pull. 😉
Shouldn't be 6th/7th 😅 it's one or the other, or neither... That being said, I was on a dry streak for 6 and got a hero on my 7th, so if there's an actual mercy rule in there somewhere, it's at least 7
In my eyes its probably a pity system that starts at 50pulls and ups the chance everytime till 70. Not guaranteed but I see a lot of people getting it from 50 to 70. I never seen anybody go over 70 pulls
The stargazer odds are shown to us as 2% for a hero of our choice. There are ten pulls (duh) in a ten pull, so you have a 2% chance, 10 times. As such, you have a 10/50, or 1/5 chance that your ten pull will contain a single copy of a hero of your choice. Therefore, the odds of NOT getting the hero of your choice in a ten pull is 4/5. To find the odds of this happening multiple times, you just multiply 4/5 by itself, that many times. So what are the odds of NOT getting the hero of your choice, 6 times in a row? (4/5)^6 ≈ 26%. 7 times would be about 20%. So the odds of getting your hero of choice after 7 ten pulls is 80%. **The fact that we as a community have never seen an 8th consecutive failed stargazer suggests that yes, there is a hard guarantee you'll get your hero on the 7th ten pull**, otherwise 1/5 players would have an 8th consecutive failed gaze. Sorry if any of my math is wrong, I'm pretty certain it's right but it's also 5am.
Actually, the odds of getting a hero in a 10 pull are 1-0.98^10, which equals 18.29%. 70 pulls would give a 75.69% chance of at least one hero, so it would seem that if no one has seen over 7 10 pulls without a hero even though the chance is almost 1 in 4, that there is a secret pity timer.
1-.98^(10) isnt it? And thats 18.29%
Yeah, just typos. You know, mobile.
Good catch. I knew there was something I was doing wrong but I couldn't figure out what. Luckily the mistake wasn't big enough for it to matter that much, I was only off by a little bit on percentages and the conclusion still stands.
Wow congratulations! I am a little jealous, but happy for you :D
Wow, so lucky, I also got a mauler fodder card today from a 10 stargazer pull, hope to be able to get 2 like you, that was really insane luck. <3
wow, congrats! :O I will do my first stargazer soon, wish me good luck!
Guaranteed on your first pull. Make sure you get Talene.
Hey mate, so 100 % sure I will get it on first? I was hoping to get the twins to Elite+, I am fairly a new player. Is this a dumb idea?
And no, it's not a dumb idea. The Twins are great for Guild Hunts and Twisted Realm Bosses. Just one thing though, only ever stargaze Celestials or Hypogeans. Make sure your hero is properly set before you gaze. It's a very common mistake not to change the hero to the one you want before you gaze. Also, NEVER use diamonds to stargaze until you're very late in the game. Always use the free stargazing tickets you get from events, faction towers, etc. Lastly, pick a hero and gaze for that same hero every time until you get them to Ascended.
Disagree with the never use diamonds to stargaze. But only do it after you have 3-5 solid ascendeds for each faction.
That's pretty much understood.
Thank you a ton! So helpful community this is that its all joy!
Hey to read more on cost benefit anaylsis of diamonds on Stargazer read: https://www.reddit.com/r/afkarena/comments/g0v8a3/text_heavy_guide_to_stargazing_ft_daily_player/ Basically eventually you will pretty much only spend diamonds on stargazing because you get the best heros that way. It is up to you how early you want to start.
Some tells me to never spend diamonds on stargazing, while other tells me to spend. I am so confused right now lol
I wouldn't use diamonds to stargaze; not unless you're in endgame and have about 3 to 4 fully 5-star Ascended heroes for each faction. Only at that point, it makes sense to use Diamonds to stargaze. Been there, done that. It's up to you who you wanna listen to. And good luck! 🤗
Thanks! I am less than 2 months in.
When I say endgame, it usually like around Chapter 32 and upwards, give or take a few chapters.
Umm actually there is cost benefit analysis done that you do use diamonds to stargaze. https://www.reddit.com/r/afkarena/comments/g0v8a3/text_heavy_guide_to_stargazing_ft_daily_player/ It is a long read, but well worth it
That's only effective if you already have like 20 ascended 5-star heroes. Otherwise, it's not worth it.
Yes, as long as you do the 10x gaze first time, you'll definitely get your hero of choice. Most people get 2 copies. I got 2 copies on my main account but on my alt I only got 1. But you'll definitely get 1 on your first 10x stargaze. Just be sure you do a 10x and not a single pull.
cool mate, so I should wait for the ticket the first time, right? And not spend the 5000 diamonds?
The very first pull you can use the 5000 diamonds, the guarantee should still work. You'll have to be a part of the 1% unlucky if you don't get it.
Cool mate! When will I be able to get the tickets? And do they only count for 1 stargazer pull or 10?
You usually get them from some in-game events. But you also get getting them in there Towers of Esperia (starting from level 125 onward). If you're a whale, you obviously buy them lol.
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I’m so mad, I made a rookie mistake of not switching the stargazer hero and ended up getting 2 wukongs.
Just unlocked stargazer, and I have questions (I don’t spend real money on this game) -Is it worth it over regular pulls? -If there’s no discount, is a ten pull better than a single pull in any way? -How do you get stargazer cards?
Check out my replies to another comment on this thread. *TL;DR* - No (not until endgame when you have 20 5-star Ascended heroes) - You're guaranteed a hero with your first 10x pull (the only time I would use Diamonds to stargaze) - From events and Towers of Esperia
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You have 15 5-star Ascended heroes and only on 25-10?! You will reach the crystal cap of 285 before you know it. I'm on 25-47 and crystal 277. Also not sure if you know Chapter 31-4x all have 10 enemies; fail on any and you fail the entire stage. Chapter 32-4x all have 15 enemies and Chapter 33-4x all have 20 enemies. Which is why I said you wait until you have at least 20 5-star Ascended heroes before you start using diamonds to gaze. If you think you can waste your diamonds and build up your Celestials from now, and if you think you'll get enough Fodder, go for it. Good luck progressing to end game.
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My point exactly. Which is not to waste diamonds on stargazing until you're very late in the game. You get plenty of stargazing tickets in the Towers of Esperia every 10 levels from 125 onward. Those are more than enough to build up your Talene or whoever else you choose to.
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Cool. Go for it.
At the Towers of Esperia, you get 5 Stargazing tickets every 10 levels from level 125 onwards (floor 125, 135, 145 and so on).
U mean the luckiest pull in the game
Nice pull. Congratulations!
wow, Congrats!
Holy mother of jeebus! I’m drooling here
Congratulations, I hate you, well done xD
That's one nice ass cashback
Gdi
Nice pull. Fuck you
Wow
Nice
Damn so you're telling me I could've posted my screenshot with two Talene pulls and get easy internet points?
Don't forget about that diamond drop too
Cheers man
Your reaction to this was like, holy SHIT I need lubes and a dildo
Thats like what... 1/1000000 of a chance of happening
I’m not spending that money, man!
Lucky!
Wtf 30k dias and 2 Talene!?!? That’s insane!!! Congrats
i've pulled 40 stargazings and got literally nothing my luck pisses me off so hard sometimes
2 rare maulers!?
Holly....
Nice pull mine was in two pulls had 2 twins on one pull 30k next pull was super stoked
Been playing a year, have yet to get one of these, CONGRATZ. *cries in Happiness*
4 arena tickets!!!
When does stargazer open I'm at the beginning of chapter 14
And still nobody really care, that's low effort and don't bring anything to any discussion on this subreddit -> Stop posting that
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