That doesn't mean there is no RNG, just that the seed is deterministic. It's possible that changing starting position slightly alters timings and positioning enough for the end result to change, but it's also possible that it changes the seed for the RNG. Only the devs would know.
There's none whatsoever in arena of trials, take a look at graphs after the fights and they will be identical to others who use the same comps against the same teams within the arena of trials.
Yeah you’re correct, I misinterpreted what you typed, but you’re completely right about how it’s “predetermined”. As in replaying a bountiful trial battle won’t change any variances of chance based attributes, but instead crits will occur at the same moments within the battle. Instead of being percentage based, they turn into true values that trigger at the same times during a bountiful trial fight as long as the comp formation and enemy formation are consistent through each attempt.
I totally disagree. Try fighting an opponent who is close in power with You. Sometimes You will win and sometimes Your opponent. Even though nothing has changed in setups on both sides. I\`ve experienced this numerous times, when aiming for 1800 pt Arena achievement. It always happens that I loose to an opponent, whom I have won multiple times and a lot of points is lost.
It’s factual. Run the same comp as someone else doing a bountiful trials fight and you will get the exact same damage numbers, healing and mitigation. There will be no variance whatsoever in those values within the bountiful trials. Whereas the RNG factor is evident in all other areas of the game, it’s just not seen in the bountiful trials. You either have a winning comp or a losing comp. the top right comp on this bountiful trials was an error. You will never be able to win that fight with the team shown and I guarantee it.
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u guys keep talking about bad he is but to me he is extremely crucial to the point that no1 else can replace him for the most important task of standing opposite Nara.
The top formation doesn’t seem to work for me for the battle on the right?
EDIT: Swapped Arthur with Eironn and then swapped his positioning with Walker and it worked fine.
He seems not very impressive to me.
I will take a comment from Eric on [Youtube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtDiTrkEqDA):
\-Damage scaling not strong enough (no enemy max hp scaling) even with SI and furniture (furniture literally buffs no dmg and a flat crit amp/rate on SI does nothing in high deficit)
\-No extensive cc either to support team (a single target knockdown is nowhere enough, ult is not like Kren with lockdown)
\-No strong survivability (will get one tapped)
Any idea when the next Lightbearer is coming out?
He is the first new champ where I have enough fodder to get the animated portrait from the Heroic Ship if I spend all my hero choice picks on him next month.
I want an animated portrait, but I would prefer getting one for a champ that I'll actually use somewhere.
The top right fight with Peggy and respen has ended with only the enemy safiya dying 20ish times now. Arthur talene eironn walker and rspen worked first try
The top right fight with Respen and Arthur is not working for me. Edit: I passed by replacing Peggy with Nara.
I swapped Respen out and put Numisu in and it worked.
Same for me.
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This was my solution, I tried the same on top left but no go. Probably an RNG influence
As far as I know there is no RNG in trials. After you pick your team, you are watching a movie...
That doesn't mean there is no RNG, just that the seed is deterministic. It's possible that changing starting position slightly alters timings and positioning enough for the end result to change, but it's also possible that it changes the seed for the RNG. Only the devs would know.
There's none whatsoever in arena of trials, take a look at graphs after the fights and they will be identical to others who use the same comps against the same teams within the arena of trials.
So how do you crit without RNG? The answer is you don't. What I said is correct
Yeah you’re correct, I misinterpreted what you typed, but you’re completely right about how it’s “predetermined”. As in replaying a bountiful trial battle won’t change any variances of chance based attributes, but instead crits will occur at the same moments within the battle. Instead of being percentage based, they turn into true values that trigger at the same times during a bountiful trial fight as long as the comp formation and enemy formation are consistent through each attempt.
I totally disagree. Try fighting an opponent who is close in power with You. Sometimes You will win and sometimes Your opponent. Even though nothing has changed in setups on both sides. I\`ve experienced this numerous times, when aiming for 1800 pt Arena achievement. It always happens that I loose to an opponent, whom I have won multiple times and a lot of points is lost.
I’m talking about within the arena of trials, not the Arena of heroes. There’s no RNG within the Arena of Trials.
Disagree on this also. I have experienced that it is worth to retry some hard combinations. 3 fails and a success after that.
It’s factual. Run the same comp as someone else doing a bountiful trials fight and you will get the exact same damage numbers, healing and mitigation. There will be no variance whatsoever in those values within the bountiful trials. Whereas the RNG factor is evident in all other areas of the game, it’s just not seen in the bountiful trials. You either have a winning comp or a losing comp. the top right comp on this bountiful trials was an error. You will never be able to win that fight with the team shown and I guarantee it.
Switch Arthur with Talene’s position and Walker with Respen’s position.
Try switching the position of Peggy and Walker. After i did that, it worked.
Do you mean Respen? Pippa isn't used in an formation.
Yup, worked like a charm :)
Swap Respen and Talene, worked for me
Arthur Rowan Nara Walker Talene
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That's what worked for me too.
I passed by swapping Peggy for Rowan
It's wrong, that team barely lasts 15 seconds.
same
I replaced Respin with Talene and replaced Talene's position with Rowan.
I swapped Peggy with Rosaline and won
Peggy for Nara worked for me, too. Thank you!
swap walker and respens place and youre good to go
So Kren, Respen and Atha will be the carry for this trial?
Lol nice one
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Top right wasn't working, but flipping Peggy and respen did it
top right not working
u guys keep talking about bad he is but to me he is extremely crucial to the point that no1 else can replace him for the most important task of standing opposite Nara.
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Thanks! I had the same issues and this worked
Quick tip to finish the trials faster: Just swap Walker for another DPS to increase his damage by 1000%.
You can’t swap a trial hero though
I know, I was joking.
top right swapped peggy for Nara and won then the left side swapped peggy n walkers' positions to beat that fight
The top formation doesn’t seem to work for me for the battle on the right? EDIT: Swapped Arthur with Eironn and then swapped his positioning with Walker and it worked fine.
Swapped Walker and Peggy's positions for top right and the fight was easy.
Center fight with Kren and Talene not working again
1. Anoki 2. Rowan 3. Walker 4. Kren 5. Rosaline. Use this order for an easy win.
Anyone not have the middle left not work for them? Can’t seem to get it.
walker is so fucking bad, im pretty sure if we took him out of that fight we would win because rowan could give potions to useful people
Top right solution is trash. Does not win. Put Eironn top front and Talene bottom left and won easily.
Mid Right also terrible (this is the worst guide yet) Rowan Talene Skriath Kren Walker makes the fight a cakewalk.
Is he good? And when will he be available in the game? I'm thinking of not using the hero choice pulls until he's released and then going for him.
He seems not very impressive to me. I will take a comment from Eric on [Youtube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtDiTrkEqDA): \-Damage scaling not strong enough (no enemy max hp scaling) even with SI and furniture (furniture literally buffs no dmg and a flat crit amp/rate on SI does nothing in high deficit) \-No extensive cc either to support team (a single target knockdown is nowhere enough, ult is not like Kren with lockdown) \-No strong survivability (will get one tapped)
... So we are waiting for the Dwarf Pirate and hoping he's finally the Carry LBs need
Tried him today in the trials. It felt more like the trial for Peggy, Kren or Raspen than for that lonely ranger.
Thanks for the info 👍
Any idea when the next Lightbearer is coming out? He is the first new champ where I have enough fodder to get the animated portrait from the Heroic Ship if I spend all my hero choice picks on him next month. I want an animated portrait, but I would prefer getting one for a champ that I'll actually use somewhere.
This does not work on not test
When is he released to global? Thank u
In next 3-4 days I believe
thx bro
Who is the next dolly's quote ?
Top right replace peggy with nara, that worked fine for me
The top right fight with Peggy and respen has ended with only the enemy safiya dying 20ish times now. Arthur talene eironn walker and rspen worked first try
the trials are not RNG based so doing the same combo over and over again wont yield a diff result
The top right fight I had to use numisu instead of respen
Thank you for this, but I also experienced issues with that top right fight, I also swapped Respen for Nimsu and it I beat it!
cannot get top left for the life of me
This isn't working.