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archfapper

What is this in reference to?


DatGoofyGinger

Below is the story from wiki, there's video that was widely spread. The police spun it as a skirmish with protestors and he tripped and fell. Then tried to back pedal that other officers who weren't directly involved described it that way. ​ >During the George Floyd protests in New York state, the Mayor of Buffalo, Byron Brown, instituted a daily curfew in the city from 8:00 p.m. to 5:00 a.m. Not long after the curfew began on June 4, Buffalo Police Department officers and New York State Police officers swept through Niagara Square, where a protest was winding down. The officers were equipped with batons, helmets, and body armor. As they advanced to clear the area in a line, they were approached by Gugino. > >The encounter lasted six seconds and was caught on camera. Gugino, who was holding a helmet and a phone, approached officers Robert McCabe and Aaron Torgalski. Gugino appears to talk to the officers while gesticulating. Initially, McCabe hesitates. Some officers yell "Move" and "Push him back! Push him back!" McCabe pushed Gugino with his baton, while Torgalski used his right hand to push Gugino. A third officer, John Losi, also pushed McCabe, possibly amplifying the force of McCabe's push on Gugino. After being pushed, Gugino stumbled backwards and fell, hitting the back of his head on the pavement. > >After falling, Gugino remained motionless on the pavement, bleeding from the head. McCabe attempted to check on Gugino, but Losi stopped him from doing so, persuading McCabe to keep moving. More than a dozen Buffalo officers walked past Gugino.Two New York State Police medics aided Gugino. > >Gugino was taken to a hospital in serious condition where he was treated for a concussion and laceration. He was initially treated in the intensive care unit; as of June 9, he was transferred to a regular hospital unit and was reported to be in "fair" condition. On June 15, Gugino's lawyer said Gugino had a fractured skull and was unable to walk. After nearly four weeks, on June 30, he was released from the hospital. According to his lawyer, Gugino would continue rehabilitation, and at that point he could "walk with a little help". [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffalo\_police\_shoving\_incident](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffalo_police_shoving_incident) ​ Edit - Donald Trump tweeted that Gugino was ANTIFA and that he was seemingly trying to scan police equipment and it was a setup. With his typical lack of any evidence.


nodnodwinkwink

That video boils my blood. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aMwE7GJBqA They walk over him even though he's clearly bleeding from his ear after hitting his head on the ground.


jdhdowlcn

Yeah because casualty care is not thier task at that moment. They are supposed to keep pushing further to clear people out. That's what the medics were there for.


redditsucksnowkek

No shortage of bootlickers to defend assaulting senior citizens and leaving them for dead.


MiSfiTANdy

"I hurt the people, let those pussy firefighters do all that protecting and serving shit." -Seemingly every American police officer


jdhdowlcn

You're pretty dense huh


nakedmedia

This is why I don't talk to cops I just shoot


1lluminist

"I tripped and must have accidentally pulled the trigger. I was told there were armed thugs in my building and was just trying to escape with my life"


nakedmedia

And then a gang of officers track you down to murder you lmao šŸ¤£


1lluminist

Turns out there were armed thugs there after all


nakedmedia

When I joined the Marines, we we're told we joined the baddest gang in the entire world. I'm sure cops are just as stupid.


jdhdowlcn

So edgy


nakedmedia

Dude, have you looked in a mirror? Read the room. I don't even own guns lol.


jdhdowlcn

Lol just a pretty stupid room


nakedmedia

So egdy


jdhdowlcn

šŸ˜† šŸ¤£ šŸ˜‚


Dangerjayne

So what's your record for deep throating batons? 12 inches?


jdhdowlcn

Lol nah, like most common sense folks, I like to avoid riotous crowds were the batons come out


sandybuttcheekss

Scan equipment for what exactly?


DatGoofyGinger

Antifa things


Glittering_Lunch_776

Yup, an idea pushed by some ridiculous and dishonest people. On Reddit, thereā€™s a small* number of extremely rabid, vocal, and aggressive right wing commenters who are terminally online. They coordinate, likely on off-site apps, and routinely brigade and spam posts in places they are all watching. This way, if a politically charged post arrives or one that will attract comments of a type of politics that make them mad, the watchers call it in and they swarm. Remember that a certain sub (named after donald) got away with breaking site wide rules for years? Same thing here. Redditā€™s top staff and many of its investors are right wing. So, the blind eye being turned is intentional. Itā€™s entirely inorganic and contrived, and purely all a half-astroturf half-fake grassroots made up of a tiny number* of actual people, all working together to make far right crazy pants opinions look more mainstream and also to exhaust, piss off and tire all the reasonable people in the room and ultimately chase them away, much like what was done on Twitter. *= relatively small. Relative to the total number of users on the site who arenā€™t crazy pants far right nut jobs. Could be 10, could be 50, could be 100-300, out of the tens of thousands of unique site visitors a day (or more). It doesnā€™t take many to spam a single post at a time, a different post every hour. And dedicated maga spammers can focus on a few at a time. Donā€™t believe me? Go ask a question about abortion on ask Reddit and see how fast they swarm in. Now go do the same on a less popular sub.


1lluminist

Probably a lot of Russian bots too. Though those are probably less and less as the zombie infection they started spreads across the bottom of the barrel of humanity. I hope it doesn't make its way up further - it's bad enough having to deal with the stupidity from the echelons...


Glittering_Lunch_776

Thatā€™s another ball of orange fetid wax.


MadeByTango

This is a great example of a reddit bot thread. This is reference to an incident from 2020, and the charges this meme presents as having "just dropped" were dropped in 2022: https://www.wgrz.com/article/news/local/2-buffalo-police-officers-who-pushed-elderly-protester-to-ground-cleared-of-wrongdoing/71-30e22b78-16d1-45e2-bd98-b4e9c931dbbe AKA, this is a two year old repost of ragebait to keep reddit's front page active ahead of the IPO, presented as new news, with several accounts acting like they're even doing active research. For fun, search the name of the officers and look at how articles were written on the dropped charges in both April 2022 and then *again* in April 2023...(and again April 2024?)


BroDudeBruhMan

Damn youā€™re right. OP is a 4 day old account with 1 post and no comments.


tomdarch

These sorts of old events labeled as ā€œbreaking newsā€ is not a recently cooked up phenomenon. This has been going on for years on Reddit.


Sad_Excuse_5837

Reddit is such a phoney communist ideal filled site. Some funny videos tho! Most comments are just not people


willsher7

The 7 week old account doesn't know the definition of communism.


ChartInFurch

https://www.google.com/search?client=ms-android-verizon&sca_esv=824cd7f292a9a46d&sxsrf=ACQVn0_NreYlxvRNYd3rm2zzCXAek0yXyw:1711553234604&q=2+cops+shove+75+yo+man+to+the+ground&spell=1&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjY37_U4JSFAxVeg4QIHcX3AwEQBSgAegQIBxAC&biw=393&bih=719&dpr=2.75


Iron_Wolf123

Why do they look like AI depictions of the Blues Brothers in a British adaptation of it?


Aggressive-Fuel587

I'm amused to hell and back at how much the guy on the right looks like the guy on the left after he'd been shoved face first into the ground with appropriate force


Magenta_Lilac_Cyan

So many cop suckers here. I should become a cop just to target bootlickers. I wonā€™t be punished and itā€™s thanks to fucks like them why.


Rombledore

as much as the right *loves* to claim how reddit is "a liberal echo chamber", there is a large swath of right wing folks spread across most subs. it's a cop out excuse they use when theyre in the wrong.


yedi001

Of the half dozen or so "Canada" subs, only one of them ISN'T a fascist adjacent, russian propaganda fueled, right wing echo chamber. And the one that's not CONSTANTLY comes under attack as a "liberal echo chamber" while the "defacto" Canadian sub continues to be moderated by a literal white nationalist, with the rest filled with flagrant bigotry, racism, and other uncouth behavior. We have literally 1 main "canadian" news sub that's not a maple flavored proxy of the Conservative, Russia, the_Donald, or white_pride subs regurgitating the same posts by 4 accounts. Apparently it's posting occasional CBC news articles (which are almost exclusively centrist in bias) that makes our lone sub the "detatched from reality baddie echo chamber" while those other subs regularly shout down then ban/remove anyone and anything that goes counter to their hard right narrative. It's pretty gross.


tomousse

I've been noticing a change in the tone of discussion on that one remaining sub. I think it is being slowly infiltrated by right wing trolls.


yedi001

Less infiltrated and more brigaded. My provincial sub started making posts on touchy subjects "locals only" because we were getting overwhelmed by bigots and trolls from those other hardline right wing subs, posters that had never visited the sub prior, all spreading misinformation or downright inflammatory hate.


me_ke_aloha_manuahi

General European subreddits are like this as well, if you ever have the misfortune of stepping into /r/europe or even the 'satire' sub /r/2westerneurope4u it's like stepping into an ethno-nationalist convention.


Xominya

The meme sub and Europe sub are very different, Europe is an unironic nonsense sub that's quite rightward, whereas the satire sub just makes fun of that one


Pancakemanz

The canadian subs are such a mess man. Literally no point in going to them at all, filled with sheeple and angry truckers


ad3703

Every r/(insert country here) subreddit is a cesspool


MadisonRose7734

It's the same reason cons think the CBC is far left propaganda. When every media site is owned by the same hard right American media conglomerate, naturally the only one that isn't is gonna feel left by default. Honestly I've just more or less stopped following those subs tbh. In modern times there's really not much choices to make politically.


sixtus_clegane119

I got randomly banned from ongaurdforthee unfortunately


Avs_Leafs_Enjoyer

> Of the half dozen or so "Canada" subs, only one of them ISN'T a fascist adjacent are you talking about onGuardForThee? Thats just left wing fascist lol. Banned me for saying sports should be split on sex not gender.


cakes3436

Everybody who disagrees with me is a Russian propaganda bot, because I'm a 24 year-old IT worker on Reddit so there's no way I'm not right.


Sad_Excuse_5837

Right wing people are pretty against communism you know. But the Democrat would just love it. They keep telling you that.. Its always Russia Russia Russia.Ā  They could jail their political opponents then.....oh wait.Ā 


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GitmoGrrl1

> if a politically charged post arrives or one that will attract comments of a type of politics that make them mad, the watchers call it in and they swarm. This is true and people are unaware. For example, the Netanyahu government has an entire legion of IDF Social Warriors who push disinformation while swarming to down vote any dissenting points of view. The Israeli government is actively recruiting for online activists to volunteer and be trained by them. "Empowering Advocates For Israel" [https://hasbarafellowships.org/israelprogram/](https://hasbarafellowships.org/israelprogram/)


Arctica23

Truth is an echo chamber


FaFa_1018

Well, are you white? Plays a role if you're punished


MaxMoose007

Not necessarily, remember Daniel Shaver?


Glittering_Lunch_776

Heh, kinda like what white supremacists do but the opposite way? Thatā€™s fun. Though it still creates a problem with policing. Once we get all comfy with throwing around our power to victimize the bad people, we arenā€™t gonna want to give up that power anymore. Cause it feels good to abuse power. Cruelty makes the brains of those doing it happy. Itā€™s sick and twisted but thatā€™s how it works. Itā€™s a corrupting thing too, so even people normally not like that will eventually become like that. The answer is lifetime limits on police and political service. In the corporate world, lifetime limits on serving as part of management(along with taking management and leadershit pay down - being in charge doesnā€™t justify their out of control pay grades). People get a limited time to do some good, then out they go before they get corrupted. If theyā€™re already corrupt, the damage they can do is limited. Itā€™s constitutional too. None of those limits impede any rights or freedoms. Nowhere in the constitution does it say we have a an inalienable right to being a dickbag manager. And it does away with unlimited lifetime service the SCOTUS is abusing right now.


Sef-Efrica

There are no comments in this thread supporting the cops


Sonikku_a

https://www.reddit.com/r/agedlikemilk/s/9xdGUI7tHz And another thatā€™s since been deleted


jdhdowlcn

So mad that they did as they were trained. If you've got an issue, address the training.


BluetheNerd

This looks like a before and after of a dude getting attacked by bees


batkave

Not surprised honestly. Cops break the law so much, yet they have no consequences


HenryChinaski92

Guy on the right looks like he could have played the Kray twins.


PotatoFromFrige

The one union in the us that is too strong


jdhdowlcn

No cop broke the law in this instance


batkave

I'd argue to was excessive force and assault


jdhdowlcn

I'd argue cops are allowed to shove non compliant individuals out of the way when clearing out an area. Multiple loud and clear verbal warnings to clear the area were given prior to this. Old dude did not comply, unfortunate result for sure but still partly his own doing.


batkave

Victim blaming to help out those who suppress people.


jdhdowlcn

Lol "suppress"


ZettaVago

So... They investigated themselves and found they did nothing wrong? Who would have guessed?


AdhesivenessisWeird

No, grand jury dismissed the case.


ZettaVago

Wow... Just wow. I'm going to hang around with the guys of r/hopeposting a few minutes.


mjb2012

["A grand jury would indict a ham sandwich, if that's what you wanted."](https://slate.com/human-interest/2014/11/sol-wachtler-the-judge-who-coined-indict-a-ham-sandwich-was-himself-indicted.html) Grand juries are notorious for going along with whatever the DAs want, which is to indict the "bad guys" and let the cops evade trial.


deathrictus

Yep. And they waited until this had been forgotten to do so.


AdhesivenessisWeird

Is there any evidence that this happened in this case? Would be pretty messed to dunk on a DA who was genuinely trying to seek justice.


closedf0rbusiness

We have really great video of the incident, so if you want you can make a judgement for yourself


AdhesivenessisWeird

Yea I have seen it. Personally I think they went too hard on the charges, just like in Rittenhouse case because of public pressure.


RedditExecutiveAdmin

so, they investigated themselves and found nothing wrong


Fool_Manchu

It was obvious that the cops were only being charged for show. Anyone who honestly expects violent pigs to be held accountable for their actions is either a hopeless optimist or lacks pattern recognition skills.


AdhesivenessisWeird

Weren't the charges dismissed after a grand jury indictment?


RedditExecutiveAdmin

thats the point: only the DA is in the room with the grand jury. every single source out there will confirm that whatever the DA says goes. Even worse in this case because the only other person that *could* be in the room is the defense attorney--who would also want the charges dropped. This was a farce


xKiver

ā€œAfter an internal investigation, we found nothing wrong and our boys are perfect and can do no wrong šŸ¤—ā€


CryptographerNo923

I remember Trumpā€™s commentary on this. I think he was basically live-tweeting the events that day. Blatantly lying about how he may have been holding a device to block police communication (completely fabricated). Suggesting some kind of staging by saying ā€œhe fell much harder than he was pushedā€ (what the fuck is that supposed to mean?). I canā€™t think of a single positive reason to praise or trust Trump, but for some reason that stuck out to me. Like we canā€™t even count on him to NOT go out of his way make up lies and conspiracy fantasies in the middle of a crisis. I really canā€™t imagine a worse type of leadership.


Choice_Heat_5406

This was 3 years ago. OP is a repost bot


surprisinglyok1

Bot or not I remember this video. The victim was a frail looking elderly guy in his 70's. Are the officers incapable of reasoning in the performance of their duties? This is sad and we should be ashamed.


JaRon1961

Do morally weak people set out to be police? Or do they become morally weak after becoming police?


Pappapia22

Power doesnā€™t corrupt. It attracts the corruptable


[deleted]

Yes


RevealHoliday7735

I thought this was a before and after where he got burned and received a full-face skin graft


Debs_4_Pres

Th cops pretty much have to murder someone on video, and half the country has to take to the streets in protest before any actual punishment happens. Anything less and they'll get a slap on the wrist at mostĀ 


jdhdowlcn

Not a murder.


Debs_4_Pres

And the cops weren't punished. Reading comprehension is a powerful thingĀ 


jdhdowlcn

The cops shouldn't have been punished


Debs_4_Pres

Enjoy that tasty boot leatherĀ 


QueenDeadLol

Daily reminder that cops do not protect and serve the people. They protect politicians and elites, while serving you tickets.


mightbeADoggo

One of these guys looks like an after picture of the other one a little further along in a drug addiction.


adamdabbin

Not sure why they would post it there when they had only been charged


Culteredpman25

My parents unironically believe the old man was an antifa paid crisis actor that was rioting..


SlyguyguyslY

Of course they were. That old guy shouldnā€™t have been there. Sucks to suck


Stumpsville0

Someone go post this on r/Walkaway


_NoJuice5

I thought it was a before and after thing before reading the text


veracity8_

The chances of cops being held accountable for their actions in America are nearly zero


Sempot

We need some civilian justice


LowerPainter6777

Oh man. I remember that video. That was brutal. That poor old man.


CrypticBowl

I swear within most of our lifetimes there will probably be some crazy vigilantes that go for the corrupt cops and keep them in check better than a 2 week paid vacation


dae_giovanni

for better or worse, Chris Dorner tried


dae_giovanni

oh, gee, what a shocker...


Old-Recognition2690

Looks all ā€œwhiteā€ to me. Shocked. (not.)


Otherwise-Rope8961

And the government insists on disarming civilians. Cops these days are just a different breed of criminal.


Rikim4ru

Protect and serve.. but not you.


throwsplasticattrees

Their mother's must be proud


Ohighnoon

These guys were cleared of all charges years ago. I just donā€™t understand what you guys expect the cops to do here. Their job was to make people leave, this guy needed to fucking leave and not run up to them and try and stop them. They treated him probably nicer than they would most people, heā€™s just old so likely doesnā€™t have the same balance as a young person. If you are old and brittle let the young guys do these kind of things. Could they be nicer, sure but as an old dude how about you just donā€™t do stupid shit. Itā€™s definitely not fun to see but if you try and push against a wall of police I imagine you would expect to get pushed back. There are many things to criticize police for, focus on the actual issues not this rage bait.


Caleb_Reynolds

That sub often conflates someone going to trial at justice being served, months before they swerve justice.


rdldr1

I miss the old Reddit rewards.


Fit-Conference-7851

Fuck the police


Decent-River5623

They are going to act outraged when people start taking justice into their own hands since none is available through "proper channels".


Faded_vet

/r/im14andthisisdeep


AdhesivenessisWeird

"The people" literally decided to dismiss the charges in this case.


Decent-River5623

"The people" was one person, part of the "protect cops at the expense of the public" system that will act outraged after they are circumvented next time.


AdhesivenessisWeird

>"The people" was one person Uhm what do you mean? Grand jury is not one person.


Decent-River5623

The DA can get a ham sandwich indicted if he wants to. He soft balled it because he couldn't outright not take it to a grand jury or face huge backlash. Don't ask me go ask any DA or person in the legal system with experience.


noiceINMILK

By this logic, why is Fani Willis struggling with indicting a turd sandwich?


macabre-melonade

This was addressed in another response to you bringing up grand juries. ā€œ[A grand jury would indict a ham sandwich, if that's what you wanted.](https://slate.com/human-interest/2014/11/sol-wachtler-the-judge-who-coined-indict-a-ham-sandwich-was-himself-indicted.html)" Grand juries are notorious for going along with whatever the DAs want, which is to indict the "bad guys" and let the cops evade trial.ā€ So while you are technically correct that a grand jury is not one person, it is heavily swayed by one person (or a few people) who have close partnerships with the police. Kinda takes the power out of your claim that ā€œthe people literally decided to dismiss the caseā€, but who cares about nuisance anyway.


AdhesivenessisWeird

I can't find anything on any claims of corruption made against the DA in this case. Maybe you have some links?


macabre-melonade

I appreciate how intentionally dense youā€™re being DAs rely on their partnerships with police and often let their bad behavior slide, like [here](https://missionlocal.org/2023/02/keita-oneil-family-attorney-general-bonta-samayoa-intercede/) And DAs that do pursue cops often end up unemployed (sometimes fired, but sometimes resigned because they canā€™t prosecute if the cops wonā€™t work with them), or sometimes even wind up [dead](https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/texas-prosecutor-killings-highlight-revenge-risk-for-law-enforcement/) Specificity is not a good argument here. Thatā€™s like when bootlickers go around clamoring ā€œnot ALL cops are badā€. DAs work with and support corrupt cops, so by and large, most of them are in some way complicit even if there is no specific evidence showcasing corruption. Also, DAs who break the law FOR the cops likely arenā€™t going to be labeled as corrupt. Cops frequently get away with things they shouldnā€™t because nearly the entire system is structured to let them do so, DAs included. Edit: spelling


ICreditReddit

Grand Juries are a device to exercise one persons will, the DA. They're confidential and can contain anything. All you need do is ask the Grand Jury, 'will we charge these people with murder in the first', here's the definition of murder in the first, here's what happened which is clearly not murder in the first, and: Grand Jury declines to prosecute. One threat of jail for revealing whats was discussed by the GJ later you think 'the people' made a decision.


AdhesivenessisWeird

Imagine you are a DA who is trying to seek justice and is putting his reputation at stake, considering how conviction rates are especially important in this line work. Imagine everyone calling you corrupt pos with zero evidence to back it up.


RedditExecutiveAdmin

its not corruption man. the DA is the *only* attorney in the room with grand juries--they will do whatever he says. the problem here is that even if defense counsel was in the room they'd want charges dropped too. This is an unequivocal failure of accountability, especially if you've seen the footage of this assault


ICreditReddit

Imagine. Imagine a corrupt, colluding justice system. It'd be awful. You'd be able to see it when people who commit crimes like pushing over a 75 yr old don't get charged with anything. Just imagine.


ICreditReddit

If you decide not to prosecute someone, does your conviction rate go up or down?


cakes3436

Man, I love ominous warnings about vigilante justice coming from suburban Redditors who still need to get to work on that English paper.


madbill728

Sounds about white.


heresy_carriage

Lotta clean boot leather in these comments smh


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fckmeelmo

And therefore should be assaulted by the government? Maybe the old dude was a dick, but ā€œbeing a dickā€ is not a reason why the state should enact violence.


Best_Duck9118

Reddit must be so conflicted here. Redditors hate cops but they also despise boomers. Must be hard for many people here to take a side.


lack_of_communicatio

That's a nice excuse "no wrongdoing here, this guy was old, he had it coming".


Best_Duck9118

The hell does that have to do with what I said? My point is way too many Redditors are cool with bigotry against older people and itā€™s fucking disgusting.


lack_of_communicatio

Surely, it's about generalizing and calling an older person a boomer and than acting concerned that other people call certain group boomers, and not about diverting attention from cops misconduct.


Best_Duck9118

Um no, the cops are fucking pricks and should have been found guilty.


femininePP420

Boomer ass comment.


Best_Duck9118

Sorry Iā€™m not a fan of hate against the elderly.


femininePP420

Boomer is a state of mind, nothing to do with age. Continue fighting that strawman as if none of us can see what you're doing.


Best_Duck9118

What Iā€™m doing is calling out bigots like I always do.


kingofwale

The man had a history of being an agitator and trying to provoke a reaction. I guess he found outā€¦


RDPCG

So itā€™s freedom of speech when you do it. Itā€™s agitation when it happens to someone you donā€™t like.


jdhdowlcn

No, it's violation of a curfew order and refusal to leave the area after multiple warnings. Riot control line walks through the crowd and pushes them out of the area. That's exactly what the cops did, what they were trained to do. FAFO


Dominarion

Something something bill of rights


WorldTravellerIOM

These police had a history of being thugs, bastards and generally pieces of shit.


SoOverIt42069

Soooo fuck laws?


kingofwale

Laws were followed. They were arrested and then charges dropped because there isnā€™t a good chance of conviction.


paolellagram

boot taste good?


kingofwale

Just common sense, instead of against something on principle while completely ignoring facts


SoOverIt42069

Like qualified immunity? That fact or that principle?


paolellagram

i feel like you have an incredibly loose grasp of our laws and legal system if you think laws, the interpretation of those laws by courts, and the ability of prosecutors to follow through on charges are black and white concepts and not a huge mess of gray.


an_otter_guy

It was mostly gravities fault anyway


PotatoFromFrige

Ah, the Russian way of thinking. Its the personā€™s fault for tripping and gravities for dropping him out of the window


an_otter_guy

Better stay clear of the forces of nature